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Forensic examination Vs Medico legal examination
Greetings,
- Edit under discussion dated March 8, 2022 by User:ShiriEdits
- Article in context 2021 Minar-e-Pakistan mass sexual assault
In referenced to your above stated good faith edit, I discussed nuances of 'Forensic and Medico legal terminology with couple of copy editors from Women in Red Project and we came to tentative conclusion that specific term 'medico−legal' seems more apt in given context. Points are briefly listed in following given table for your perusal and inputs if any from your side. You can also support us by copy editing following information. Looking forward to you response.
Thanks and warm regards
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 09:07, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
- Medical examination of Ayesha Akram,..., was completed at Nawaz Sharif Teaching Hospital.( dunyanews.tv)[1] The victim was brought to a hospital in Lahore on Thursday* for medico-legal examination.( samaaenglish.tv)[2] The Punjab government released Friday the medical examination report of the victim which confirmed details of the injuries she sustained after being assaulted.(Geo TV).[3]
- *Date of Incidence Saturday, 14 August 2021; Date of medico legal examination: Thursday 19 August 2021, Date of medico legal report Friday 19 August 2021
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1 | Term includes general applications other than Medico Legal too like Digital Forensic report
Usage of general term Forensic without mentioning Clinical Forensic can introduce ambiguity which forensic one is talking about? |
Specific meant for Medico legal |
2 | Even within Clinical Forensic What an assistant expert prepares report is technically scientific thus forensic but until designated authority would not sign will not get legal status | Report attains legal admissibility only on signature of designated authority |
3 | Even within Clinical Forensic at times forensic expert can provide interim information report to investigative agencies to facilitate investigation, though such interim information reports are forensic, can not be considered legally admissible until final final report is authoritatively signed | Medico legal report attains sanctity of legal admissibility (though remains open to cross examination during legal proceeding and unless struck down by court Medico legal report is considered factual) |
4 | Term Forensic report is used more in case of deceased because body is subjected to detail examination for autopsy | In many assault cases where victim is alive mere physical examination of the victim by expert can be sufficient so report by designated doctor are considered Medico legal |
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5 | This article from the World Health Organization, indicates that a forensic examination is only part of the process to create a MLE report which also includes examination of social services, police investigation, and legal systems. (page 1) | |
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6 | Pakistan media seem to be using 'medico–legal' usually for physical examination of assault victims (including non sexual assaults) by authorized medical doctor. For digital and DNA exams they seem to be using term 'forensic examination', The difference is probably because laws use term 'medico–legal' for assault related physical examination. | Of the six news reports surveyed for Minar e Pakistan case by me 4 use word 'medico-legal' and two use wording just 'medical examination".
My perception is though report is prepared by authorized medical doctor (in south Asia it's generally in Government hospitals) wording is 'medico–legal' is used since such doctor's report is as per legal process, creates obligations on Investigative agencies and acceptable and admissible to judiciary as reliable evidence. |
7 | On Nov. 2020 Express Tribune news report provides following information:
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Requesting your inputs to above points and copy edit support to above comparison points if possible.
References
- ^ a b "Minar-e-Pakistan incident: Victim's medico-legal assessment completed | Dunya News". Dunya News video.dunyanews.tv. 20 August 2021. Archived from the original on August 20, 2021. Retrieved 13 October 2021.
Medical examination of Ayesha Akram, who was assaulted by more than 400 men at Minar-e-Pakistan in the provincial capital Lahore on Independence Day, was completed at Nawaz Sharif Teaching Hospital. According to medical report, dozens of bruises were identified on the body of the affected girl. Ayesha's neck and right hand are swollen. The victim also had scars on her back and both feet, the report said.
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..Medical Report The victim was brought to a hospital in Lahore on Thursday for medico-legal examination. The report came out on Friday and confirmed that the woman was tortured. She has bruises on her neck, chest, and hands as well as 13 clear torture marks on her body, the report says...
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Medical examination The Punjab government released Friday the medical examination report of the victim which confirmed details of the injuries she sustained after being assaulted. Signs of inflammation were found on the woman's body, the report said, adding that her neck, right hand and ears were swollen. There are three scratches on the right side of her chest and scratches on her left arm, back and both legs. There are also several bruises on her body, the report said.
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The medico-legal report of the victim confirmed details of the injuries she sustained after being assaulted. Signs of inflammation were found on the woman's body, the report said, adding that her neck, right hand and ears were swollen. There are three scratches on the right side of her chest and scratches on her left arm, back and both legs. There are also several bruises on her body, the report said.
- ^ "New guidelines for medical examination of sexual assault survivors issued in Punjab". The Express Tribune. 2020-11-11. Retrieved 2022-03-15.
@Bookku: Your and the people from WP:Women in Red arguments for the use of the term "medico-legal" instead of "forensic examination" in the 2021 Minar-e-Pakistan mass sexual assault article are perfectly reasonable and justifiable and I accept the planned replacement of the term whole-heartedly. I made an accidental mistake in changing that term, and I accept the planned change. I will change the wording as soon as I can. Just for curiosity's sake, can you give me the link to the conversation you had with WP:Women in Red members? Just want to see how you and the members came to a consensus. If that is not possible, that is okay. ShiriEditsTalk 09:45, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
Many thanks @ ShiriEdits, what we formed @ this discussion is 'tentative conclusion'. Consensus comes after your concurrence or more discussion if you do not agree. So thanks for thinking over the points positively and look forward to your support.
Regards
Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 10:17, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
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- Well, I see you have started the review. I take it that you don't wish for any advice. I'll take the article and your talkpage off my watchlist, but I'm here if you need me. Just ping. SilkTork (talk) 08:36, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- @SilkTork: Oh hi, sorry if I started the review early. I had a lot of time to spare (it's summer in the Philippines right now) and decided to start the GA review early. Sorry if I didn't wait for you. ShiriEditsTalk 09:20, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- That's fine. Give me a shout if you're unsure about anything, or if you want me to look over the review. SilkTork (talk) 09:23, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- @SilkTork: Oh hi, sorry if I started the review early. I had a lot of time to spare (it's summer in the Philippines right now) and decided to start the GA review early. Sorry if I didn't wait for you. ShiriEditsTalk 09:20, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
Category:Kumu (social network) original programming has been nominated for deletion
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Valorant userboxes
Hello. I saw your Valorant userboxes. You can replace the content at User:Spodle/UBX/Valorant with the following code at to combine all of them to one userbox:
<includeonly>{{Userbox |id = [[File:Valorant_logo_-_pink_color_version.svg|90px|Valorant logo]] |id-c = #ffffff |id-fc = white |info = <strong><big>This user mains [[Valorant|{{{1}}}]]</big></strong> |info-c = #ed1a13 |info-fc = white |info-a = center |border-c = red |usercategory = Wikipedians who main {{{1}}} |nocat={{{nocat|}}} }}</includeonly><noinclude> This is all the Valorant userboxes I have created. {{yytop}} {{yy|User:Spodle/UBX/Valorant|Astra}} {{yy|User:Spodle/UBX/Valorant|Breach}} {{yy|User:Spodle/UBX/Valorant|Brimstone}} {{yy|User:Spodle/UBX/Valorant|Chamber}} {{yy|User:Spodle/UBX/Valorant|Cypher}} {{yy|User:Spodle/UBX/Valorant|Jett}} {{yy|User:Spodle/UBX/Valorant|KAYo}} {{yy|User:Spodle/UBX/Valorant|Killjoy}} {{yy|User:Spodle/UBX/Valorant|Neon}} {{yy|User:Spodle/UBX/Valorant|Omen}} {{yy|User:Spodle/UBX/Valorant|Phoenix}} {{yy|User:Spodle/UBX/Valorant|Raze}} {{yy|User:Spodle/UBX/Valorant|Reyna}} {{yy|User:Spodle/UBX/Valorant|Sova}} {{yy|User:Spodle/UBX/Valorant|Skye}} {{yy|User:Spodle/UBX/Valorant|Viper}} {{yy|User:Spodle/UBX/Valorant|Yoru}} {{yybottom}} </noinclude>
To use it: {{User:Spodle/UBX/Valorant|Agent's name}}
. Just figured I'd swing by an give that suggestion. Cheers! – Pbrks (t • c) 14:58, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Pbrks: Thanks for the suggestion! Pretty nifty as well, since the userboxes are merged and you can swap between agent names. SpodleTalk 00:39, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
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