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-- sent you that study discussed at the Yanardag article. Look over pp 522-523 and then we can proceed. Montanabw(talk) 01:57, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Your revert

There were 3 editors who all agreed the lists are redundant. The NYTimes timeline is redundancy - we don't need a photo of the NYTimes building. The other timeline is already in the prose. There was no justification to your reverting information that is purely redundant. Your actions are disruptive. Atsme📞📧 11:54, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

July 2017

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Whisperback

You have new message/s Hello. You have a new message at Kudpung's talk page. 07:35, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Talk page assistance

Hello. Since I don't want to bother you any longer, I'd want to fix the talk page issues I had. So I was replying to the other user and not to you, that is why I put the same amount of colons as you (an additional one to what you are replying to). So, can you help me with this?--ZiaLater (talk) 05:04, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

I've now provided some instructions on your talkpage, which I have now watchlisted. If you have any further replies or questions, keep them there so the conversation stays together. Softlavender (talk) 08:07, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Take a look

Since you have been so involved with the article, I thought you'd be interested in this.--ZiaLater (talk) 10:56, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

@ZiaLater: It seems to be strong evidence that E-DemSnoopy is (an agent of) the blocked COI sockpuppet E.Parisca. As far as what to do about it, I'd say it's either a case for WP:COIN; a possible WP:DUCK cause to re-open the SPI; or a case for ANI to ban that editor (and possibly Carriedelvalle23 as well) from the Smartmatic article; or all of those. I think E-DemSnoopy's additions to the article may bear reverting. Softlavender (talk) 03:48, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
Ok. If you could, make the decision on further actions that you deem necessary as you seem more experienced and I want to remain neutral in this event. I will provide comments and assist with the background when needed.--ZiaLater (talk) 06:16, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
ZiaLater, I'm honestly not sure when I would get around to that. If E-DemSnoopy continues to edit the article, I will probably take action. Also, if you feel his edits bear reverting, I will back you up if you revert them. The COI and POV SPAs are very entrenched in this article, so it and those accounts definitely need administrative oversight and action. It's just a matter of carefully proving the case. Clearly there is sufficient evidence. But, again, I'm not sure how much time I have to put into it at present. Softlavender (talk) 06:34, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
I will see what I can do. If I have time, I will present a case.--ZiaLater (talk) 07:38, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

I made a case on WP:COIN and WP:RFP. Also, some of E-DemSnoopy's edits could be reverted since they aren't really notable and are just filler in the article to promote Smartmatic. However, this is difficult for me since it somewhat balances the POV in the article. We can worry about this later since I am more concerned about further POV/COI edits. It seems that without protection, the article will have continuous accounts coming from nowhere.--ZiaLater (talk) 21:02, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi ZiaLater, RFPP is the wrong venue and is not to be used for content disputes, COI editing, or behavioral problems. I've just now made a comment on the new COIN thread you started. I would also like to make an editing request: Please place your edit summaries after the title in the edit-summary field, where there is a space for them and where they belong. That's why there is an arrow that appears after the title when viewing the edit history of an article or viewing someone's contributions. Thank you. Softlavender (talk) 05:44, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
My recent edit on the COIN should have the proper summary now. After all this time I never noticed this... (embarrassed).--ZiaLater (talk) 05:54, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

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You have new message/s Hello. You have a new message at Kudpung's talk page. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:41, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

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MOAB

The event is in the article. If you can't see it, let me know and I'll show the words. Please stop making such pointy edits. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:24, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

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It's always good to refresh one's memory...

Wikipedia:Casting_aspersions Atsme📞📧 02:30, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

User:Hillbillyholiday

Thanks for weighing in there. Hillbillyholiday has ceased the mass deletions and edit warring, but, like I stated at WP:ANI, I'm certain that the disruption will start back up again. Hillbillyholiday is just biding his time, waiting for the matter to cool down, and will be right back at it afterward. I'm not sure that I want to be the one to start a WP:ANI thread on this editor in the future, especially when there are administrators not paying attention to the case or giving it the serious attention it deserves. You are at WP:ANI a lot more than I am, and administrators might be more willing to listen to you if you start a thread on the editor in the future. In the past, administrators would be more concerned about any WP:ANI thread I started, but it's a different story these days (for whatever reason). Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 19:15, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

And, yeah, I know that the weekends (especially Sundays) are slow on Wikipedia, but still. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 19:21, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Flyer22 Reborn, I'm not interested in reporting an editor I don't have a dispute with. On ANI I only provide my view of things that are reported, upon looking at the evidence. I only rarely have an issue with an editor that requires me to report at ANI, and that is the only time I file a report. Softlavender (talk) 02:19, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Ping

Just saw your ping today re the sockpuppet investigation for Caesar's ghost. I was on holiday (in the Basque country, ironically enough) so now I'm back I'll keep an eye on those articles. Valenciano (talk) 11:30, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

FYI

Could you please join the discussion at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Appeal_of_community_sanctions_placed_on_User:Barts1a Twitbookspacetube 12:35, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Softlavender, I appreciate the courtesy of tagging me but I think I'll simply sit this situation out. Because it was Twitbook who proposed my topic ban, any responses I make will understandably seem biased. It would be intelligent for me to not get involved. @Twitbookspacetube: I sincerely wish you a very productive return to Wikipedia. DarkKnight2149 14:41, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

File:1938-xmas-tiny-tim.jpg

Hi Softlavender. I don't think that the non-free File:1938-xmas-tiny-tim.jpg is needed any longer per WP:NFCC#1 because there are some feely licensed images of the actor available in c:Category:Terry Kilburn which could be used instead for identification purposes; so, I have tagged the file with {{rfu}}. The Commons' files appear to have been uploaded a few years after you uploaded the non-free one to Wikipedia, and unless you feel they should be deleted from Commons for some reason or the non-free one can somehow be converted to public domain for some reason, one of them should be used instead. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:58, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Jesus article

If you don't want the sentences removed, please tell us why in the talk page. Currently, no one has objected. Thanks.--FutureTrillionaire (talk) 00:18, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Misuse of Rollback

Please read Wikipedia:Rollback#When_to_use_rollback. Use rollback on an article talk page on anything but vandalism is wildly inappropriate. Please be more mindful of your privileges going forward. — nihlus kryik  (talk) 13:12, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

There is something quaint about copious wikilawyering followed by ridiculous procedural grounds like this is a courtroom or something. TimothyJosephWood 14:02, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
@Timothyjosephwood: I'm not you. If I were, I would have edit warred over the simple fact that rollback was misused. This was simply a notification, and something you should learn from. — nihlus kryik  (talk) 14:44, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

ARBPIA and 500/30

Given the text of the remedy here, I don't think I agree with your statement here. However, I'd like to hear your thinking on it. As far as I can see, as soon as the editor makes a complaint on a noticeboard, that noticeboard becomes a "page reasonably construed as being related to the Arab-Israeli conflict," and I think the text of the first exception at least implies that noticeboard discussions are intended to be included in the prohibition. But I'll agree that the wording could be a lot clearer on this. Unless I'm missing something, I may well end up asking the question at ARCA. A penny for your thoughts? GoldenRing (talk) 21:10, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

ANI is a noticeboard for problems that require the input of experienced editors and administrators. It is not related to the Arab-Israeli conflict. Softlavender (talk) 03:41, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
Edited to add: OK, I missed the text that reads "This exception does not apply to other internal project discussions such as AfDs, WikiProjects, noticeboard discussions, etc.", but it is unclear what "this exception" refers to: the preceding sentence, or the sentence before that one? Softlavender (talk) 03:46, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Peter Levy

Dear Softlavender,

I am very concerned about some of your edits on the Peter Levy page, in which you have removed a lot of information. Whilst I can understand you removing some uncited points, you have removed at least two points that have been correctly cited.

Also, please can you explain your reasons for removing the Radio Humberside section, and I note that you have suggested that this was as the 'entire section was WP:OR and WP:SYNTH'. Please can you clarify under what point does the section fall under WP:OR/SYNTH.

Thank you.

--Zoyetu (talk) 20:14, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Zoyetu, please keep all discussions of article content on the talk page of the article in question, rather than on user talk pages. If you want to notify a specific person of any post you are making on a discussion page, simply use the WP:PING template. Softlavender (talk) 04:54, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

WP:ASPERSIONS

Only warning. If you continue to make WP:ASPERSIONS about me in any setting such as you did on WP:AN and WP:ANI, I will seek to have you sanctioned. — nihlus kryik  (talk) 15:09, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

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talk:social work

FYI The IP hopper content removed. Previously archived by an IP in March 2017. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 22:33, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Seem to have been more editing from Kerala on Social work: here Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 04:10, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

Can you give the relevant policy please

Hi Softlavender, can you state the policy you were applying in this edit please. -- de Facto (talk). 08:12, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

It's the administrators noticeboard, for actions and decisions by administrators. Non-admins should not be closing threads that involve sanctions or enacting them etc. An admin will close the thread by and by. Softlavender (talk) 08:22, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

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Car App: 15 September 2017

Hello, I updated the article and included in it both Android and iOS apps. Please review it. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by SipleDailyUser (talk • contribs) 08:15, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

HT

Re this, what's the alternative? Are you suggesting that we stop copying his comments? Do we recognize any right to a self-defense? If so, where is the line? ―Mandruss ☎ 04:48, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Anthony Bourdain

Unsure why you removed the edit "In September 2017, outside an airport in Los Angeles, Bourdain threatened to poison U.S. President Donald Trump if given the chance ref https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwxBVX7HZtU /ref" Given that this is a factual statement, an event which occurred on video, and certainly adds to the section in which is was placed, discussing Bourdain's public persona. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Glialsupporter (talk • contribs) 11:29, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hi Softlavender, thank you for your comments at my RfA. I hope that I'll be able to answer your concerns with my actions rather than my words. Cheers, ansh666 23:53, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

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AN Thread

Thanks.

Other than the fact that there were some active FFD/CSD's I'd have asked you to monitor User:ShakespeareFan00 closely.

And thanks for letting the other party know about the AN thread. I perhaps should have left that notification myself? Time to take an extended wiki-break, to allow tempers to cool down. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:14, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Jane Austen concerns

Hello Softlavender. Per the articleinfo results the person you are obliquely referring to must be User:A.S. Brown. In your posting to User:Drmies could you clarify if that is the case? Also, one would normally expect some discussion on the article talk about this. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 14:56, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

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Family Guy lead, redux

Please see Talk:Family guy#Participant survey, about resolving questions not resolved in the earlier RfC.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ<  17:48, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Gilles Cantagrel

Hi,

I see you've been working on Wiki for ten years. You should therefore know that no one can edit an article which bears the template "in use" which you nonetheless did which resulted in the loss of 5 references and 5 external links that I had added. Wiki being a collaborative encyclopedy, feel free to repair you error. Thanks; LouisAlain (talk) 10:00, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Ships passing in the night

I was looking at your recent postings to ANI and though how sensible, those look like someone with experience around here. I then noticed on you home page that you have been editing for more than 10 years which confirmed my suspicion. So I ran interaction tool, and that is why I did not recognise the user name. It seems that the only time where we have previously posted to the same section in less than a day was an RfC on Talk:Simon Collins (I was only there to fire fight.) So not surprising that I did not recognise the user name. Keep up the good work. -- PBS (talk) 20:48, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Recent Dispute

Hello, I am reaching out to you about a recent dispute you were involved in regarding the Smartmatic article. From my understanding, you commented on the case after user ZiaLater reported users Carriedevalle23 and E-Dem snoopy for a possible conflict of interest. I am writing an in-depth article about the management of Wikipedia and I am trying to learn more about situations like yours. Would you be willing to talk to me more about this situation? --Investigativereporter (talk) 14:42, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Investigativereporter has been indeff blocked. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 15:56, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

A Month in the Country

Still haven't found a 60s screening date in the US but I have two more sources that establish it was filmed in 1967. The first is an article from the Sydney Morning Herald for 14 Jan 1968 about designer Lex Aitkin stating "Recently he has completed two houses for Susannah York as well as the sets for her new American film, A Month in the Country." The second is an article about Susannah York from the Detroit American 9 July 1968 stating she "appeared in the lead opposite her husband, English actor Michael Wells, in a screen version of the successful London theatre show "A Month in the Country," directed by Wells." There's another article about Susannah from the Chicago Tribune-Sun for 16 August 1970 talking about the staging of the play by York and Wells in 1967 but it doesn't say anything making a film of it which implies it hadn't been screened by 1970.

The earliest screening I can find is July 1978 on CBC Channel 9 in July 1978 where it was seen in both Canada and the northern US. If you want pdf's of all these I can email them to you.

A factor about the film that might be relevant is that is was the first colour TV film made for the American market - this is cited in the obituary of designer Alan Pickford in The Times 21 March 2003 - so it could be that the American TV companies decided not to screen the show until the use of colour TVs was more widespread? Nthep (talk) 17:04, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Brilliant sleuthing, Nthep! I appreciate it so much! Yes, it would be excellent if you could send copies of those articles to me. The Canadian air date comports with the IMDB release info: [1]. Also, I as well had seen somewhere (tiny snippet view of something on GoogleBooks I think) that it was the first color TV film for the American market, but I hadn't extrapolated to your theory, which is certainly plausible. I'm trying to remember the first color TV series from my childhood, and I came up with Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In, which began airing in January 1968. Anyway, thanks so much again! Softlavender (talk) 23:27, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
Hello again, Nthep. I don't know if you have access to 1970s film magazines, but I've added two articles on the subject to my RX request: [2]. --- Softlavender (talk) 00:55, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
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  • Fantastic, Nthep! Thanks so much for all of those. Especially the Stage article. I myself had read about it being originally performed at the York/Wells estate, and then filmed, but I read that info on a Google snippet or something a few years ago when I was originally researching this, and this week I could not find that info at all when searching again, so I'm so glad you found it for me! I'm not currently clear whether the filming of it was necessarily done during the live performances on those four days .... I think for the sake of audio and camera positions, they probably reprised it, without an audience, on a later date that summer, and that's what I think I remember other sources saying (although I'm not certain). It's also interesting that the Stage article also gives cast members; 4 of those 13 listed cast members are different from the 13 listed on IMDB, which also gives credence to the fact that the filmed version may have been a reprise and some of the cast might have changed due to not being available or whatever. The articles do give credence that the film took place at the York/Wells estate in Frankham/Sussex, although I think at least one mention I've come across said (probably mistakenly) that it was filmed in London (that was probably an American source -- to Americans, "England" is equivalent to "London" LOL). Anyway, thanks again! The puzzle is falling into place.

    PS: It's weird per your provided newspaper page that it aired in Michigan in July 1978 (same as in Canada) on the local CBS affiliate, but no evidence to your knowledge that it aired elsewhere in the U.S. on that date? Softlavender (talk) 00:47, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

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(Untitled)

I removed a duplicated comment - you clearly did not make the exact comment twice in the same thread with the same time stamp. I'm also not an involved editor in anyway at all so your revert of my close was mistitled. Legacypac (talk) 04:41, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

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Anthony Bourdain

That's why you are removed my content about Anthony Bourdain? Do you think I'm lie ? Please try read about this information Ministry of Foreign affairs of Azerbaijan Republic. HajisoyE (talk) 08:45, 29 October 2017 (UTC) https://www.cntraveler.com/story/anthony-bourdain-has-been-blacklisted-by-azerbaijan-after-visiting-disputed-territory

HajisoyE, this fact is insufficiently noteworthy to place in the biography of a living person on this encyclopedia. Softlavender (talk) 10:44, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

Austen Adaptations

With respect to your comment on my talk page, I found it rather rude, and I think you don't need to police Wikipedia in such a way. Everything I have added in my edits is true and verifiable, and fully relevant to and noteworthy for the subject of the encycolpedia pages. There is nothing wrong with saying certain literary works exist, when they do, and there is evidence to show that they do. There is no self-promotion in the text of my edits, any more than there is in any of the other listings of such works as I list. Bubbly1558 (talk) 00:21, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

Chris Cuomo image

Image has now been cropped by GRuban. I'm closing this discussion. Softlavender (talk) 00:50, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

You wrote We don't use group images for infoboxes - can you point to where that is a policy or guideline? Thanks. --GRuban (talk) 22:59, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Infoboxes are reserved for images which immediately and clearly identify the subject. Group images do not accomplish that. You are welcome to crop the image to remove the additional people (very common and very easy), or to place the group image in the body text of the article. Alternatively, you may start a discussion on the talk page of the article about using the full group image in the infobox of the article. The additional problem with having a group image in an infobox is that it is, or can appear as, a form of editorialization: (1) deliberately and initially grouping the living person with other public figures who may or may not have significant overlap in beliefs and outlook, or commonality, with the living person, or (2) as initially inflating a person's importance because the photograph may be with far more prominent people. Softlavender (talk) 23:09, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
While that may be an interesting idea, I don't think it's a rule. Here for example are two Wikipedia:Good articles which do exactly have group images: Bert Bell, Charles Cabaniss. I didn't have to go very far down the alphabet. Here are two Wikipedia:Featured articles the infoboxes of which don't have the person it's about in the infobox image at all: Hu Zhengyan; Jacob van Ruisdael. Here is a Featured article which does have the person it's about in the image, but he's hardly the focus: Henry Moore; you'll notice that image wasn't cropped only to him. --GRuban (talk) 23:17, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
None of the group photos are on WP:BLPs, and none of the non-group–photos apply to group photos in a WP:BLP infobox. My points stand. Softlavender (talk) 23:23, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
Here are five other Wikipedia:Featured articles about individuals in which the infobox is a group picture: William Hillcourt, Stanley Green, Alcibiades, Pedro Afonso, Prince Imperial of Brazil, Alice Ayres. I'm sorry, but I think you're making up this rule; reasonable though it may be, clearly many of the articles that we judge the best in the encyclopedia don't follow it. You are quite right in describing this as your point, I don't think the rest of the encyclopedia shares it. --GRuban (talk) 23:29, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
None of the group photos are on WP:BLPs, and none of the non-group-photo images apply to group photos in a WP:BLP infobox. My points stand. Softlavender (talk) 23:32, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
Weird, I've read WP:BLP, and can't see anything about group photos. Did I miss it? But OK. Wikipedia:Good articles with a group photo in the WP:BLP infobox. Susannah Constantine; Misty Copeland; Thom Darden; Obi Ezeh... --GRuban (talk) 23:48, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
From WP:BLP: "Contentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion." I've already explained to you why a random group photo in a WP:BLP infobox is contentious, and explained the other simple alternatives for using the photo. The images you just listed are not random group photos: the first is the subject with her professional partner, the rest are in-performance photos of a dancer and two athletes. If you post further here, I am going to move the entire conversation to Talk:Chris Cuomo, because discussions of article content should be on article-talk, not user-talk. Softlavender (talk) 23:59, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
And neither was this, this was the subject with his professional partner, and a rather important interview subject (a senator; Cuomo's a political journalist). But, I guess that is the thing about being contentious, if you say it's contentious, it is. Cropped. --GRuban (talk) 00:11, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

All right, I admit it; the cropped photos actually look better in the two articles I put the whole one in. Here, I see you're working on Indigo children? Maybe this will help. It's not very good resolution, but, it's a free image. --GRuban (talk) 00:42, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

We don't normally add images of the various authors involved to articles about concepts, much less fringe concepts. That image would belong on the article on the subject. I have commented out the image you posted above and am closing this discussion. Softlavender (talk) 00:50, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
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A flower, then? Feel free to remove this too if it bothers you. I just want to say thanks for helping, despite my best efforts to resist. --GRuban (talk) 01:08, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, that's sweet! I appreciate it, and appreciate the cropping on both of the infobox images. Cheers, Softlavender (talk) 01:11, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

Overlinking

Thank you for reviewing my edit to Beethoven. While "irascible" may be a common adjective for you, it is not common for me. I had to look up the definition. I did know what deafness and bipolar disorder mean, yet links have been provided for readers who do not know their meanings. I suggest either replacing the word "irascible" with a more common word such as "ill-tempered," or "cranky," or add a phrase clarifying the meaning. I will watch this spot for other suggestions you may have for improving the article. Thanks again for reviewing my edit. Comfr (talk) 17:55, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

To'ak Chocolate

That material had been challenged. I missed the earlier explanation by the original editor on the talk page, but there is still no consensus to include it. I don't see anything particularly useful in describing how chocolate is made and as far as I see there is nothing special about the description that is particular to this chocolate bar, so I agree that it should not be included in the article. Meters (talk) 01:36, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Recently at ANI...

The discussion so far...

Edit warring notice

You are edit warring at Pardon of Joe Arpaio and restoring a challenged BLP violation that was removed twice, claiming in your edit summary that the article is not a BLP. Please stop edit warring. You have been an editor long enough to know BLP policy, and have been asked to discuss making changes beforehand on the TP. You also need to revisit the source you cited because it is one person's "perspective" on Arpaio, it is not about the pardon; therefore, a questionable source. You have not attempted to discuss anything and chose to edit war instead. You are not even trying to collaborate in a collegial manner with others. I have taken the BLP vio concerns to BLPN.Atsme📞📧 13:13, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Return to where placed, please

I put my additional comments under my original request for a good reason: because it needs to be read by those reading the request and not lost in the comments below. I'd appreciate it if you move it back right away. Truth be told, you should have asked first and/or notified me since they are my comments (and I was clear in why I placed them where I did in the comments themselves). Thanks for your cooperation. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 02:47, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

You can relabel it, but it needs to stay in the proper chronological place, per WP:TPG, especially since numerous editors had already responded. -- Softlavender (talk) 03:04, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Honestly...

Why are you not an admin? GMGtalk 01:30, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

People have asked me to run, but (A) I don't like responsibility, (B) I spend "too much time" here already, (C) I don't really want any more buttons to push or tools to learn/deal with, and (D) I actually think I am more effective as a non-admin. Thanks for the vote of confidence, though! :) That's very kind/nice! Softlavender (talk) 01:36, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
Oh horse shit. It's not a symbolic gesture. The only thing I care about it the project, and it would be better off if you had buttons. Right now you're the only person I would consider nominating myself, because you're the only person I can think of where the nominator wouldn't matter. You're so qualified it's very nearly disrespectful not to stand. You're making excuses. GMGtalk 01:45, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
There are actually a good number of experienced, longterm, highly wiki-knowledgeable, highly qualified, neutral editors who prefer to remain non-admins. Most of them are probably primarily content creators. I genuinely wasn't joking when I said I don't like responsibility; as I told Kudpung once, the thought of being an admin makes my shoulders tense up. I do appreciate the fact that you are very sincere. But we can't always have what we want: I dearly want Tokyogirl79 to run for ArbCom but she has had too many life commitments these past few years. Softlavender (talk) 01:57, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
There are also a good deal of fairly uncontroversial backlogs where admins are volunteering, because no one else will. It's not a kingdom; it's a soup kitchen begging for volunteers. GMGtalk 02:30, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, those backlogs don't interest me, and I sincerely appreciate those who have the stomach for it. Basically, everyone on Wikipedia gravitates to what they are most comfortable with and happiest doing, which is how it should be. Softlavender (talk) 02:38, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

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Haha thanks very much, Northamerica1000! Leave it to you to send food-related holiday greetings! ;-) Softlavender (talk) 06:31, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. Actually, it's fun to send these to people who aren't in the U.S./North America. North America1000 06:34, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

Datari Turner

Hey Softlavender, hope you're well. As I'm sure you saw, Datari Turner's page got deleted, but I appreciate you stepping in with your comments about WP:AFDISNOTCLEANUP, WP:NOIMPROVEMENT and WP:GNG. I am going to review a few of the guidelines with my client, and should we decide to re-submit to AfC, I wanted to see if you'd be courteous enough to volunteer your time to quickly review our draft to see if you think it passes guidelines for notability / neutral language? Would be much appreciated. Let me know. Thanks! JacobMW (talk) 16:02, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

No, I'm not interested. Softlavender (talk) 22:12, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
No worries. Thank you. JacobMW (talk) 17:04, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

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@Megalibrarygirl: (pinging you since you also did some work on the article) Hey there, I saw you took an interest in editing Ruth Jones article. I have additional drafts at AfC, Deborah Gebhardt, Joey Vrazel, and Marsha Reall, if you are interested in improving them. I believe I have enough citations for notability, but if you think I need more, I can scrape newspapers.com or other sources for additional sources. Thanks for your work on the Purdue athletics articles, and if you do not want to or have time to edit these, no worries! Kees08 (Talk) 20:03, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi Kees08, good to hear from you. I don't think I have the time to help out on those drafts, but it looks like you are doing well with them. One thing I will recommend is using the {{friendly search suggestions}} template to help searching. Put the template at the top of your draft, and then click on the links to find sources. The main reason I mention that is that the link called "WP reference" is a Custom Google Search that cuts through a lot of nonsense and only returns notable sources. It's how I was able to quickly find the Washington Post mention of Ruth Jones. @Megalibrarygirl: might be interested in that Custom Google Search as well. I also just discovered this page which has some good searching tools: WP:Advanced source searching. -- Softlavender (talk) 21:01, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
Hi! I'll take a look, Kees08, though I'm running behind on a lot of things, so be patient with me. Also, thank you for the custom search info, Softlavender. I love search hacks. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:39, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

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E-mail?

It's not because I particularly want a reply, or further conversation, but for curiosity and my archives: did you receive my e-mail, which I sent via the "e-mail this user" function yesterday? Bishonen | talk 17:32, 2 December 2017 (UTC).

Yes ... plus one gets a notification via the red notifications. You can always also post a YGM on talk. Softlavender (talk) 21:44, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

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Julia Mora article

I see you redirected the article,but how long does that take? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daquan7474 (talk • contribs) 06:14, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

I did not redirect the article. Softlavender (talk) 06:16, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

you wrote this- Redirect to Nuestra Belleza El Salvador#Representatives in Big Four pageants, per NewYorkActuary, and full protect the Redirect. We've got a massive sock/meat farm constantly trying to pump up or recreate the entry (as evidenced even by the participation in this AfD), so we need protection against that. Softlavender (talk) 21:58, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

so I am confused,what are you doing with the article? keep or redirect?

the discussion is closed on the administrator noticeboard. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daquan7474 (talk • contribs) 07:15, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

I did not redirect the article, as anyone can see: the article still exists. You are either confused, or your English is not clear. If I were you, I'd stay away from the subject, as you are clearly a single-purpose account and your edits do not seem in good faith. Softlavender (talk) 07:19, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

I have not editited the Julia Mora article anymore. But I have been watching you. Its obvious this article is going tp either be redirected or deleted. why is that still ongoing? do you ever sleep softlavender? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daquan7474 (talk • contribs) 10:26, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

December 2017

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Julia Mora. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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please don't

Please don't reply to other people's messages. It is rude. Thanks. And please don't talk to me again. Thanks. Mister Sneeze A Lot (talk) 12:19, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Mister Sneeze A Lot, you can't just tell people to not reply to other people; that would defeat the purpose of a talk page. And no one "owns" their user talk page, so Softlavander, or anyone really, can reply to people on other users' talk pages. It's not considered rude at all to do this (in a general sense). (talk page stalker) SkyWarrior 12:31, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
That's irony to the extreme. Especially since we were talking about a cyberbullying victim. Goodbye. Mister Sneeze A Lot (talk) 13:26, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
@Mister Sneeze A Lot: What's really ironic is you advocating for a cyberbully. --NeilN talk to me 13:48, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
I most certainly am not. I am not advocating for any of the people who respond to messages intended for one person and being answered by someone else. Please do not write to me again, and the same goes for all of these people who feel the need to bully and harass me for merely pointing out a fact. Incidentally, I have included the comment that the person had tried to add, now with a news reference to validate it. Sadly, it seems that you guys are too busy bullying me to notice that I was actually right. Mister Sneeze A Lot (talk) 14:12, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
@Mister Sneeze A Lot: Very well, I shall only interact with you purely from an administrator standpoint should the need arise. --NeilN talk to me 14:17, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
You're still asleep and this is all a dream. It's surreal enough for one. --NeilN talk to me 14:07, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
Facepalm Facepalm Softlavender (talk) 14:08, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
We were just about to get the giraffe going. Now you've woken up and spoiled everything! *sob* Martinevans123 (talk) 14:11, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

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Constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, but your recent edits, such as those to Bazooka (instrument), appear to be intentional disruptions designed to illustrate a point. Edits designed for the deliberate purpose of drawing opposition, including making edits you do not agree with or enforcing a rule in a generally unpopular way, are highly disruptive and can lead to a block or ban. If you feel that a policy is problematic, the policy's talk page is the proper place to raise your concerns. If you simply disagree with someone's actions in an article, discuss it on the article talk page or, if direct discussion fails, through dispute resolution. If consensus strongly disagrees with you even after you have made proper efforts, then respect the consensus, rather than trying to sway it with disruptive tactics. Thank you. There is no question, no question whatever that the use of the image at issue violated NFCC#1. It is obviously replaceable. Per its rationale, its only purpose is simple illustration. The only way use of a nonfree image for this purpose could be justified would be if no bazookas existed at all, like it was an extinct species. This is an extraordinarily simple point, aand any reasonable, competent editor should be able to grasp it. Moreover, at the time BMK added the nonfree image to the relevant article, the article actually included an external link to a source of free images for the article! Your dislike of rigorous NFCC enforcement does not entitle you to blithely restore obvious violations to Wikipedia articles. That is, in fact, blockable editing. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. (talk) 06:28, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

PD vs non-free images at Bazooka (instrument)

If there is a PD image, it has to be used and the non-free image has to be deleted. Please don't continue restoring it. We hope (talk) 13:31, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

the difference between deletion and redirection

Yes of course I understand the difference between deletion and redirection. Don't try to patronise me – I'm far too long in tooth for that. I couldn't care less what the effect of deletion or redirection has for editors, admins or oversighters; I'm simply interested in what the effect is for our readers, and I'm astonished that you don't appear to grasp that both redirection and deletion removes the content from the sight of 99.9% of the visitors to the page. Readers don't go ferreting through the page history of a redirect to find content that's been hidden from them, even though in theory they could. I have to say I'm extremely disappointed in how you've interacted with Atsme. Either you've forgotten that redirection removes the content from the view of our readership (and therefore really does have the same effect as deletion) or you're aware of that and you're playing semantic games with her. In whichever case, it's very unbecoming conduct. --RexxS (talk) 16:35, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Template talk:Marriage

You participated in Template talk:Marriage last time about end=died and end=divorced, now there is a question about including the year that a marriage ends for completeness, or leaving it off for brevity. --RAN (talk) 22:28, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Why did you revert the edits by 91.49.71.240? I checked the edits, and the entire chart was indeed supported by a circular reference. Boomer VialHappy Holidays! • Contribs 01:33, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

May i ask...

Why have you rolled back my edit to Age of consent? I get that it may look odd by an IP but that table is entirely unsourced, or rather sourced to other wikipedia articles(which from my understanding is the same). At least a note why you rolled it back would be appreciated. I can only learn if i know what i did wrong. 91.49.71.240 (talk) 01:36, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Sorry about the extra section, disregard it haha 91.49.71.240 (talk) 01:37, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

@Boomer Vial and 91.49.71.240: Please see the article's talk page. Please also keep content discussions on article talk rather than usertalk. Softlavender (talk) 01:46, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

question

Hi, with this edit you posted a comment that contained this segment; "...anyone who does not have that admin-wannabe userbox)". You appear to be using the term "wanna-be" pejoratively, and since literally thousands of editors have one of several variations of the "I'm not an admin, but might like to be one someday" userbox on their userpage, you have basically insulted all of them. My question is, that wasn't your intention, was it? - theWOLFchild 06:42, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

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And olive branch & holiday wishes!
Softlavender, please accept these holiday wishes :)

I've caused this year to end on a chord of disappointment for many, but I hope that despite my mistakes and the differences in opinion and perspectives, and regardless of what the outcome is or in what capacity I can still contribute in the coming year, we can continue working together directly or indirectly on this encyclopedic project, whose ideals are surely carried by both of our hearts. I'm hoping I have not fallen in your esteem to the level where "no hard feelings" can no longer ring true, because I highly respect you and your dedication to Wikipedia, and I sincerely wish you and your loved ones all the best for 2018.

Wishes

It's that time of the year, SoftL. No fancy template, but just wishing you all the best for the holidays and the new year. It's probably a lot warmer where I am than where you are 😎 Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:20, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Seasonal greetings

Happy holidays, Softlavender. Wishing you well, looking forward to learning more from you. Sending greetings from Kyoto, Japan. Alex Shih (talk) 08:20, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Hello Softlavender: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, -- ψλ ● ✉ ✓ 16:21, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

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Sock? What?

So I've come upon another interesting predicament. I've noticed two users, both particularly interested in Costa Rica and Buddhism (pretty unique), making a series of consecutive edits. I saw this and it raised some questions. However, I also saw this investigation which made things even more confusing. I'm asking your oversight since you have more experiences with potential socks. An explanation of this relationship would be helpful as well.

Happy Holidays! --ZiaLater (talk) 23:24, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

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Auguri!


May you have very Happy Holidays, Softlavender ...

and a New Year filled with peace, joy, and beautiful music!



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Merry Christmas!

Merry Christmas Softlavender!!


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Happy Holidays

Happy Holidays
From Stave one of Dickens A Christmas Carol

Old Marley was as dead as a door-nail. Mind! I don’t mean to say that I know, of my own knowledge, what there is particularly dead about a door-nail. I might have been inclined, myself, to regard a coffin-nail as the deadest piece of ironmongery in the trade. But the wisdom of our ancestors is in the simile; and my unhallowed hands shall not disturb it, or the Country’s done for. You will therefore permit me to repeat, emphatically, that Marley was as dead as a door-nail.

So you see even Charles was looking for a reliable source :-) Thank you for your contributions to the 'pedia. ~ MarnetteD|Talk 02:25, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

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...to you and yours, from the Great White North! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 16:17, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

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Sound Of Music Edits

Softlavender,

The sources listed are coming from Allmusic.com and have since been removed from their website. If you look at Billboard.com itself, it will become evident that the soundtrack album did not return to #1 and hasn't since the 1960's. Check both the Billboard #1 albums of 2010 and 2013 and that title does not appear on any week, with Billboard.com as a source backing that up. Additionally, Allmusic was known to copy and paste numbers on any album reentry instead of presenting a newer reentry peak.

Please evaluate that decision.

~~WolfSpear Orion XXV (talk) 06:32, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

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Thank you for reaching out to me. I apologize for.the miscommunication. I haven't communicated with other users yet so it's still a bit confusing to me learning to navigate on here. I trimmed the Ali/Clay paragraph on the Malcolm X page and posted. I also corrected the Blood Brothers book citation. I appreciate the feedback. Twixister (talk) 10:39, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

Holiday Cheer + a barnstar

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HNY

Happy New Year!

Best wishes for 2018, —PaleoNeonate – 13:50, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda

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... warmest seasonal wishes for ...... Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda.

Oi, "Softie"... Hoping that Christmas may bless you with peace, love and understanding... and wishing that you have a good run in 2018!!

Thanks, Martin! Those images and listening links are lovely. Stay warm and furry! – Softlavender (talk) 16:11, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
I'll try.... (Furry sings the blues) Martinevans123 (talk) 16:44, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Softlavender!

Happy New Year!

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Bringing in a new year!!

Dropping by to wish you a SAFE & HAPPY New Year celebration, Softlavender. Stay warm wherever you are and be safe - watch the other guy!! HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! Atsme📞📧 23:42, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

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Softlavender,
Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy New Year to you and yours! North America1000 21:21, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
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Your username

I've been meaning to ask for some time; is your username a joke of some sort? I ask because it often reminds me of a less crude version of an old handle I used to use on BBS systems, "MuleCrevice", which I chose because substituting both words with synonyms yields "JackassCrack". (Admittedly, I was about 15 when I thought it up). ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 16:15, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Are you sure you posted this on the correct user's talkpage? I'm struggling to see the relation of my username to either of those handles. Softlavender (talk) 16:22, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
Yes. "Soft lavender" is far less crude than either of those, but it just always made me think that it might be a similar construct; using synonyms to construct a phrase that appears to mean something entirely different. In any case, it's pretty clear the answer is "no". ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 16:38, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
Correct; the answer is no; my username refers to my favorite color. I was also struggling to think of a "synonym" for "lavender", and the only thing I can remotely come up with is "gay"(?), but that doesn't apply here. Softlavender (talk) 16:46, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

AN

Comments like that make me question if there's any point to fixing my errors at all. I only wish to improve, not be treated as someone who can't be trusted to enforce what the community wants. I assure you, I don't get anything out of being skewered at those boards... especially when there are a few dozen editors that show up on every error I make to correct me. It only takes one administrator to make me change my actions usually these days, unless dealing with Arbitration Enforcement. That area is an entirely different animal I've been trying to tame for years, and it's one in which many editors/admins like to throw shame on admins who enforce no matter if they're just doing what the policies state. This isn't easy, and I don't expect it to be. But, I don't want to be forced to also abandon enforcing in the AP topic area, just to not come under constant scrutiny as if I'm getting kicks off of blocking people. Was it fun to use the button against vandals and whatnot when I first got it 10 years ago? Sure... but that "oh this is neat" feeling went away a long, long time ago (within the first 6 months of having the responsibility). I'm still a sysop here today because I don't believe in giving up on the idea of the world not being misinformed... regardless of whether I've given up on myself. And the reason I performed so many scrutinized actions upon my recent return is because I simply lost a lot of ground when I had to be away in attempting to ensure the topic area was being properly patrolled. It isn't because I've fallen off my rocker... although that could be said of why I left. - I have no idea if posting on your talk page will have any impact on your understanding of my motivations/actions/character, but I felt the need to at least say something if you think I've really become a bad apple in the bunch. I've got to get offline however. I have a flight to catch in 4 hours... and I've not gotten any sleep now. (Just have to post one more thing to a thread at AN.) — Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 16:56, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi

If you find time for it could you take a look at my recent noms at TAFI Wikipedia:Today's articles for improvement/Nominations. Would appreciate no matter what !vote as no one is attending the TAFI nom page anymore to give input. Regards,--BabbaQ (talk) 19:45, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Musicians vs. singers

Well...the problem is that there is no requisite category Category:20th-century women singers right now. I'd be happy to create one and move those other articles into it, but right now it feels like those are the only two options we've got. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 05:14, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Ser Amantio di Nicolao, that's irrelevant to the fact that you added an incorrect category to 1000s of articles, and you need to revert those additions, as I requested. Softlavender (talk) 05:25, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
For the moment, I'm creating Category:20th-century women singers. I will begin moving articles over there tonight, but as it's after one o'clock in my time zone and I'm off to bed soon I won't be able to complete it until tomorrow evening.
I also intend to raise a discussion over at Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red about long-term categorization strategy...also tomorrow. I'll let you know when the discussion is begun. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 06:22, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
Discussion raised - please feel free to comment. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 03:38, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

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Articles about people who are alleged to have committed crimes

Hi. What do you think about your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Larry Nassar and the existence of Bruce McArthur? Best wishes, my friend. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:34, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Hi Anna Frodesiak, I've been away for a few weeks. Is this still something that needs addressing? It looks like the Bruce McArthur article has been edited substantially since you left this note, but if you feel it still may warrant deletion the way to go would be AfD. If you do so you can let me know and I'll take a further look at it. Softlavender (talk) 02:30, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
Welcome back! Well, it has survived AfD and now there's This post. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:43, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

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Happy St. David's Day

The leek is one of the national emblems of Wales, worn along with the daffodil (in Welsh, the daffodil is known as "Peter's leek", Cenhinen Bedr) on St. David's Day. According to one legend, King Cadwaladr of Gwynedd ordered his soldiers to identify themselves by wearing the vegetable on their helmets in an ancient battle against the Saxons that took place in a leek field.[1] Cheers!‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 15:55, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ The Mirror of Literature, Amusement, and Instruction. Vol. 5. London: J Limbard. 1825.
Hey thanks very much, Gareth! This is very interesting and a very welcome kindness! Softlavender (talk) 04:26, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Eleven years of editing

Happy First Edit Day, Softlavender, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day! Slightlymad 06:27, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Joining the music, in a supporting role. (She created a Strauss role, of a servant.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:21, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Another Daily Mail RfC

There is an RfC at Talk:Daily Mail#Request for comment: Other criticisms section. Your input would be most helpful. --Guy Macon (talk) 12:26, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

RE: The World Only Spins Forward deletion nom

Hi, I'm a bit confused about The World Only Spins Forward: The Ascent of Angels in America being a content fork? I created the article because I had seen/heard quite a lot of coverage about it both before and after its release, in the Washington Post, NYT, on NPR, and in quite a few smaller outlets, but then found no article. However, I've never done much substantive editing on book articles, so I checked the WP:NBOOKS page before creating it, and found that it at least met the WP:GNG. I'm not sure why it would qualify as a content fork? I mean, certainly the book itself could be used as a source to help add to the content in Angels in America, but it's an oral history about not only the play itself but also the context and impact of the play in a more broad sense, and includes content about LGBT history, the AIDS epidemic, politics, etc. on a more broad level, so it's more than just a straight recounting of the production history. Certainly right now it's just a stub (I was planning on expanding once I'd gotten a copy of the book and had time to go through all the coverage on it) but as far as I can tell, WP:REDUNDANTFORK and WP:POVFORK are the only unacceptable forks, so I'm not sure which one of those it falls under? Also, don't you typically merge forks, not delete them? Anyway, sorry for rambling, I'm a bit lost here, so I just wanted to understand a bit better about why you felt it should be deleted. Thank you! ElfLady64 (talk) 06:08, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 03:52, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

You're welcome, Zigzig20s! Softlavender (talk) 03:57, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

???

"So whatever you are trying to say, the OED is saying that the English phrase "useful idiot" does not seem to correspond": I just said above that I did not feel "reflect" was a direct synonym for "correspond to" or even "mirror". And "trying to say" is rude when it should've been quite clear. Like I am spouting gibberish? Just like the OED may be wrong about etymology, English majors may be wrong about English. To embody, represent or reflect something requires that that something existed beforehand. Also consider what "reflect" means in physics in the sense of a mirror reflecting light. The light comes from a source, hits the mirror, and bounces off. And no this doesn't mean "mirror" is used to mean the same thing as reflect, I think it is used to mean more like "correspond to". Things can mirror each other at the same time, based on how we use the term. Mirror or correspond can be used to imply parallel existence but reflection implies prior existence. —DIYeditor (talk) 05:12, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Consensus

Dear Softlavender, Francis Schonken does not seem to be respecting consensus at the moment.[3] That happened on a DYK hook created by Gerda, who has been helping me at her suggestion for two weeks or so (she asked me on her user talk page and I was happy to help her). Similarly consensus is not being respected in the accompanying article and the ongoing discussion, which involves reading a nuanced, carefully-written and lengthy chapter written in 2017. What is your advice? As encouraged by Gerda, I have contributed quite a lot to the main article and that is still happening. At the moment I want to write a brief paragraph about the Reformation in Strasbourg. It is easy to find reliable secondary sources. Thanks, Mathsci (talk) 08:30, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Similarly here.[4] On WT:WikiProject Classical Music#Split proposals regarding Keyboard concertos by Johann Sebastian Bach there seems to be no consensus at all. Most of the content in Keyboard concertos by Johann Sebastian Bach has been written by me and he has attempted to five sections simultaneously. Previously he attempted to move huge sections to new articles in January 2017, but consensus was against him in the archived discussion at WP:ANI. What is your advice? Mathsci (talk) 08:46, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
  • I think the involved editors need to work out the issues re: the DYK-nominated article amicably on the article's talk page. In terms of the keyboard concertos article, FS has frequently abused the "under construction" template to railroad unilateral, undiscussed, non-consensus changes into stable articles (most of which have been largely written by you), so at this point this is continued abuse of that and I have reverted. Softlavender (talk) 10:26, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Hi. Francis Schonken's edits are continuing in the same way on "Keyboard concertos", ignoring WP:consensus. From what I can tell, Francis Schonken has methodically counted the number of reverts he has made and then waited for a certain time to start reverting again. From my general experience on wikipedia noticeboards, that kind of calculated edit-warring is not uncommon on WP:AN3. Sometimes administrators have referred to that kind of editing as "gaming the system". What is your advice? Mathsci (talk) 08:18, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
I'd say it's up to you to determine what to do. Softlavender (talk) 08:28, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi. On An Wasserflüssen Babylon, Francis Schonken seems to be trying to circumvent WP:consensus. In this edit [5] he unilaterally decided that were no issues with the lead so that he could remove any tags. In this case he used ]WP:BRD where it is not applicable. Indeed he was trying to stifle discussion, not to start any constructive discussion. Mathsci (talk) 16:51, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Keyboard concertos

Please don't invite other editors to edit war, like you did here. --Francis Schonken (talk) 10:42, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Edit on Claude Debussy

Well from your comment it is clear that you may not know much about Manuel de Falla, and even less about his music. If you cared to even read the article on Wikipedia about him, you can read this: "There he met a number of composers who had an influence on his style, including the impressionists Maurice Ravel, Claude Debussy and Paul Dukas". He is also mentioned in the article "Musical impressionism". If you want concrete examples his work Nights in the Gardens of Spain is described as "impressionistic". Also I understand that you might not know about the history of Spanish classical music, but Falla, like virtually every Spanish composer of the late 19th century and beginning of 20th century, completed his musical education in Paris, and was influenced by French music (other examples are Isaac Albéniz, Enrique Granados and Joaquín Rodrigo). What I thought would be discussed about my edit was whether Falla was relevant enough to be included on the list or not. I did not expect someone making a fool out of himself arguing about an obvious fact, that Falla was influenced by Debussy. I mean, I try not to opinate and argue about something I know nothing about, and I expected everyone to do the same. That's why your comment is surprising for me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.33.236.52 (talk) 12:01, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

IP: Please read my edit summary, which advises you to make your case on the talkpage of the article (not here). Softlavender (talk) 12:06, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

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Reverted edits in Oh Shenandoah

Please, see WP:CON and WP:WAR. We can discuss any troubles and doubts about my/ your/ someone's else edits before such reverts: [6], [7], [8], [9]--Tamtam90 (talk) 22:47, 10 April 2018 (UTC).

Your advice please...

Greetings!

I took a look at instances where Hullaballoo Wolfowitz's editing conduct has been discussed at ANI. You made a number of comments last December, in Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive972#Edit warring to restore NFCC violation and unsourced claims

I found this edit of yours particularly interesting.

  1. you mentioned a ruling connected with Betacommand. I am not familiar with this ruling. Where can I read about it?
  2. you told HW, paraphrasing, don't simply remove images that have a fair use rationale, instead initiate a (civil) discussion with the good faith uploaders, as the image may be eligible for inclusion under NFCC, if only you point out what is wrong with their rationale... have I got that right?

Thanks! Geo Swan (talk) 02:58, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Geo Swan, I think you have my sentiments right. In terms of Betacommand (talk · contribs), the saga is too long and too far distant for me to encapsulate well. I suggest asking someone else, perhaps one of the participants on that ANI thread -- or doing your own research. I think one way of characterizing it would be that he was blocked/banned for disruptive over-zealous removal of borderline fair-use images, or images which had fair-use rationales that he disagreed with. Softlavender (talk) 23:51, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

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Talk:Kiev/naming

The patience it takes to monitor the bimonthly thread where the next attempt (by the same players every month) to change Kiev to "Kyiv" will occur shortly! Thank you for your patience and persistence. --Taivo (talk) 03:35, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

LOL, Taivo. The main problem is, the people who start the new threads do not realize it's been hashed over so many times. All *I* have to do is copy and paste the same close I've been using for the past 10 threads. :) Softlavender (talk) 03:54, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

ANONYMOUS

mY Apologies for taking the liberty to write on your page, but I felt I must offer an explanation to your riposte.

I am aged 52, and have been writing this Wikipedian for over 15 years. Secondly, I wish to remain anonymous because of Vandalism and Abusive Offence on my pages that I have written.

Please DO NOT CONTA|CT Me again. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pvqnp940a (talk • contribs) 07:00, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

You ave contact me again with another username/identity. This is precisely WHAT I DO NOT WANT. Please do not contact me AGAIN. Every time that i write in EDIT SUMMARY - there are persistent Vandalism, hacking, Deleting, and BOT junk e mails disrupting my account. PLEASE DO NOT CONTACT at Parliament wiki pages against. Thank You. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pvqnp940a (talk • contribs) 08:33, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Pvqnp940a, you can't forbid everybody from contacting you; Wikipedia is a collaborative venture and communication is fundamental to that. And you must use edit summaries. If you are not interested in abiding by Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, I'm afraid your time here will be limited. All of your claims of vandalism etc. have nothing to do with edit summaries. Please provide edit summaries before you are reported to administrators. Thank you. Please also learn to sign your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~) Softlavender (talk) 15:58, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

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Editing others' talk pages

Responding to this. You pointed me in the direction of the guidelines, so I went there and found WP:NOBAN:In general, it is usual to avoid substantially editing another's user and user talk pages other than where it is likely edits are expected and/or will be helpful. This is jus in case you weren't aware of it. I'm not intereseted in debating this: I don't think messing about with the talk pages of others like that is very productive, but it's equally unproductive to be arguing about the title of a templated message that was posted last year to the talk page of a user who is now blocked. – Uanfala (talk) 10:34, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

I was not and am not "messing about with the talk pages of others", I am correcting my own edit which the serial sockpuppeteer had changed to a completely POV, uncivil, misleading, incongruous, and nonsensical one, in violation of WP:TPO. -- Softlavender (talk) 10:40, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Dr Pepper lists/categories

Are you sure those moves are incorrect? After all, the category was emptied yesterday.... --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 10:19, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi Sarek, I'm going to double-check those shortly via the three websites. I'll get back to you after I've checked them; and/or if I find them in error I may correct them myself. Thanks for the inquiry, as I realized after I changed one of them that I needed to double-check the company's/companies' official listings (which may in fact change over time). Softlavender (talk) 00:54, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! I also noticed on their list of brands that Peet's, etc., are now listed as KDP brands, instead of holding company brands, so the updating may need to be detailed. I'm almost afraid to help, because I'm worried I'll make things worse... --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 13:42, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
Good point, Sarek. I don't see Peet's in any of the on-wiki lists, but I had added Caribou Coffee, which is owned by JAB Holding Company. We can either delete Caribou from the list/navbox/category, or list it as a "partner brand" via JAB in the navbox. (It is listed on the new KDP website as among the "owned, licensed, partner, and allied brands" [10].) I'm fine with removing it (and also Gloria Jean's and Coffee People) altogether, which is probably the easiest thing to do. Softlavender (talk) 02:58, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
Update: I went ahead and removed those three coffee brands from the list and navbox. Softlavender (talk) 03:59, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

MLNV prisoners title

Hi Softlavender, hope you are doing well! I was thinking of changing the name of the article, long time is gone since the last consensus, and it is not accurate, and not descriptive. I was thinking Basque conflict prisoners should work out, without having to come to more controversial terms like political or terrorist. What do you think? Iñaki LL (talk) 10:52, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi Iñaki LL, I'm not sure I'm the right person to ask, as my knowledge of the subject has come simply from watching those articles for POV edits. The only way to get an official consensus to change would be to file an official WP:RM. It may be the case that the consensus remains to keep the easily identifiable English-language title. Softlavender (talk) 00:57, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
My concern with the title lies with its linguistic and style correctness. It is easy to identify though. I will consider your suggestion. Regards Iñaki LL (talk) 09:05, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi again Iñaki LL. You might start a simple discussion thread on the article's talk page to assess briefly whether anyone agrees with you about that. Even if someone does agree with you in an unofficial discussion, you'll still need to file an offical WP:RM before making any change, because even that change would be contested or controversial without a WP:RM. Hope that helps. :) Softlavender (talk) 09:10, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

User Name

I really don't want to get in to this but forgetting the religious aspect, with your degrees I assume you are familiar with the Gospels. Thus you must know Nicodemus from John, and I can't imagine how the name is confusing. I could always pick The_Rake or The_Harlot but those days are over for me. Nicodemus (talk) 22:38, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Oldsilenus, I said your signature is very confusing [11]. It does not match your username in any way, shape, or form. If you want to use "Nicodemus" as your signature, please have your username changed to "Nicodemus" (right now your username is Oldsilenus). To do that, go to WP:RENAME. -- Softlavender (talk) 22:49, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

My Abject Apologies

I misunderstood what you meant--as should be clear from what I wrote. I will take care of things in the AM. It is rather late here now. You are the only person in 5 or more years to complain about this. I imagine anyone who references St. David's Day on their page knows about Nicodemus-- sorry about that also. Nicodemus (talk) 02:39, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

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I’m sorry but reverting once is not edit warring. But clearly it’s important to you to keep the brackets so I won’t change it. Rusted AutoParts 11:37, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

In Response to Your Question

User:Softlavender, I noticed where you asked me: "So now sincerely wanting to know the truth is peculiar to Yeshiva students?" Everyone is in search of the truth, perhaps though on different levels, and no one should be punished for that. I'm sorry if I insinuated otherwise.Davidbena (talk) 00:15, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Calibre

Not worth my effort. Do keep the adds-nothing flannel. Ironman1104 (talk) 14:24, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

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My typing

I typed correctly great Dane, but then I decided to make it Great Dane, and then I changed my mind yet again and meant to change it to great Dane but ended up deleting the first letter instead. I didn't notice it until Favonian replied. Ironic considering the section I wrote below. I used to almost never make mistakes when typing, while still typing at 100 wpm, but neither the speed nor the accuracy rate is as good as it used to be.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:24, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Funnily enough (a phrase I hate as probably ungrammatical but there's no better way to say it), I was going to make the exact same joke but had decided it was too easy. So altogether better that you did so, as it wasn't your thread. Softlavender (talk) 18:00, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
I liked the play on words because it also expressed exactly how I feel about Favonian.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:11, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
I like and admire Fav a lot but I hadn't seen him around or interacted with him in eons, so good call. Softlavender (talk) 18:21, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

ARCA

Soft, thank you for your kind words at ARCA. I just wanted to say, the topic ban is from American politics, broadly construed.[12] Well, technically from "post-1932 American politics, broadly construed", but there's no real difference, is there — surely not in this case. I don't understand why you think it's too narrow. Bishonen | talk 19:22, 10 August 2018 (UTC).

Thanks; fixed. Do me a favor though: Don't put me in your pocket, or Zilla's pocket, or whatever cavities exist in your various userpages. I would like an invitation to tea with The Lady, but I suppose that is too much to ask. Softlavender (talk) 19:46, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
Wow, I understand it now. I guess I didn't click on those diffs in the appeal. How odd that none of them go to my actual ban. Or, maybe the diff offered for the log did show the ban, but it was broken (page not found). Cavities?? [Bishzilla stuffs the little user unceremoniously into the Victorian parlour.] Plenty of tea in there! [Listens to tiny squeals, nods, pleased.] Bishonen | talk 21:15, 10 August 2018 (UTC).

Emily Langton Massingberd

Perhaps you could lead off your planned discussion of my edits on the talk page by answering my question for you - the reason you have for considering the additional information unnecessary. You could followed that by the reason my choice of words is not an improvement on yours - which are difficult to read and lack important information about the subject of the article. Eddaido (talk) 08:31, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Discussion of content belongs on the talk page of the article concerned. Softlavender (talk) 08:42, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
Yes, I look forward to reading you contribution. Eddaido (talk) 08:43, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

User/talk:Oldsilenus

Hello, I am curious to know that why you created User:Oldsilenus and User talk:Oldsilenus? I requested them to delete because user requested to rename to old username and redirect cause problem when we rename back to old usernames. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 12:50, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

See my edit summaries. Also, please learn how to create a new thread on someone's talkpage by clicking "new section" at the top of the page. Softlavender (talk) 18:30, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
I saw the edit summaries, but I bet you didn't saw the deletion log. Anyways issue has been solved now and thanks for your suggestion about creating new threads. Have a good day! ‐‐1997kB (talk) 07:33, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

ANI close (Davidbena)

Shouldn't the closing comment there say that Davidbena has been topic-banned, not the filer? Maybe I'm missing something, since the filer also seems to be indeffed. -165.234.252.11 (talk) 17:19, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

The filer was blocked for reasons that have nothing to do with the topic ban. @Softlavender, I took the liberty of replacing your closure of the first section.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:50, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Collapse

Yw; let's see if it survives! Mathglot (talk) 09:59, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Heh. Softlavender (talk) 10:17, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Apparently you're a vandal now

[13]Sheesh. Any ideas? Nikkimaria (talk) 12:47, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Nikkimaria, that's up to those like you, Gerda, etc. who are interested in the article(s). I have all of those pages on my watchlist and I saw those edits last night. If you revert, I will support you, and if FS re-reverts he will be reported. Softlavender (talk) 21:47, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
I'd be with you. I understand that the deal was back to square 1. - The major problem is that I think all edits introducing BWV3 (new numbers, declaring the others as "formerly", although they are still valid, and always will be, and I doubt the new ones will be used in concert announcements and recordings) were bold edits. 1RR? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:54, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
You're over-complicating things at present. The point is, FS is edit-warring to ram through a contested/opposed merge. If anyone objects to that, all they need do is revert him. Softlavender (talk) 21:56, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
You probably watch my talk and saw that when I reverted him per WP:BRD (in the case described above, and on Classical music weeks ago), he decorated it with an edit warring notice. I will not revert. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:00, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
No, I don't watch the notices on your usertalk. If you are afraid of FS's ploys, then you are under his thumb rather than using Wikipedia WP:PAGs. -- Softlavender (talk) 22:04, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
I am not afraid (and of what?), but see that he doesn't understand what BRD means, and I am not able to explain. Take BWV 134a for example (edit summary of ignorance), and there are many others. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:17, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
Of course he understands, he just wants to intimidate and overpower you and outlast you by bullying, edit-warring, false wikilawyering, falsely quoting PAGs, and gaming the system. Softlavender (talk) 22:22, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

I need some help

My AN/I thread that you just answered now has users who have WP:BULLY'd me in the past making arbitrary and broad complaints that are unhinged and even lies (than can be proven in my TP). One of those particular users that showed up suspiciously decided to 'noping' me when referencing my name. That is the same user that, on my TP, PA'd me for being a fan of the Washington Times, Fox News, etc. on the same day! Now there are two admins that showed up who say they are banning me!!!!!????? They want to ban me for the thing that you said wasn't wrong. I would appreciate it tremendously if you could see my rebuttal on that thread and help me out here. Thanks. -GDP⇧ 08:55, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

An issue I'd like your feedback on

Hi, I'm contacting you because you participated in Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Amy_Siskind and responded to W C M's lack of genuine effort/following of policy. I don't know if you saw their AfD comments targeted toward a project I'm involved in, WP:WPWIR, but I'm also contacting you because you're not involved in the project. For full disclosure, I had this ...discussion? with them here on this subject. I've noticed that ever since this AfD of his, they've gone from no AfD participation since May 2016 to 9 delete votes in the past two weeks, all on women's biographies, so I'm pretty sure they're stalking the Wikiproject's article alerts (their edits in Wikipedia: namespace). This doesn't seem to fit in any of the dispute resolution boards but I don't know if this is worth taking to ANI etc; since they don't seem to be familiar with notability policy/AfD, they're not very effective (or maybe they're trolling or just doing it to feel better?), but it really doesn't seem healthy or productive. Do you have any advice? Much appreciated. (Edit: Wow. Not to sound like the user above me, I promise I'm competent.) originalmesshow u doin that busta rhyme? 14:41, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Originalmess. I think you may have a case considering their AfD stats: [14]. And considering they don't seem to do any research at all before !voting "Delete" on all of these articles. For instance, on Amy Siskind, their !vote was "Delete Clearly non-notable - there are zero hits in the news. Does not meet WP:GNG", which is patently absurd. They are clearly targeting women's articles and knee-jerk !voting for deletion with faulty and uninformed rationales. On August 11 TonyBallioni advised him to stay off of the discussions at WIR [15], and that's when he shifted to targeting women's articles at AFD instead. This could be considered bad-faith and/or tendentious !voting. In terms of what your next step might be, you may want to consult an administrator. Disclosure: I am not a member of WIR and do not follow or participate there. Softlavender (talk) 02:27, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks so much for your advice! I contacted you specifically because you're not a member and aren't involved in any way. I will contact someone, thanks again. originalmesshow u doin that busta rhyme? 23:47, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

ANI thread

Hi Softlavender. Please see this thread at ANI, which includes a link to a previous thread you commented on. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 16:56, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Hurricane Lane weakens to tropical storm near Hawaii, but more damage expected

Thinking about you. Hope you are safe. Best wishes ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 19:04, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Gareth! I was wondering when someone on-wiki was going to pick up on the fact that I have been in the path of a hurricane. Thanks for your concern. The good news is, although it was still a hurricane when it was closest to my island (the Big Island of Hawaii), I emerged unscathed. It dropped 50 inches of rain on my town (Hilo), flooding rivers and the bayfront areas, but because Hilo is always set up to handle heavy rain and tsunami-type surges, very few homes were flooded. My house-lot did not flood (much of this island has lava soil which has perfect drainage), and my house is up on stilts anyway. There were no winds at all; we were protected by the two giant mountains mid-island. So although it was a tiny bit nerve-wracking to track the information for three days, the concern has passed for my island. It may affect Maui and Oahu, but it is severely weakened now and its path has been diverted, which was the hoped-for best-case scenario all along. Softlavender (talk) 02:41, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
This is such good news S. I am glad that you are safe and sound. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 03:06, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
Same here. Didn't know you were in Hawaii. Good to hear you are safe. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 03:16, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks M and S! We really actually need to thank the giant and high volcanoes on this very large island, which always shred and divert hurricanes, and also create a "wind shadow" so the hurricane(s) loses force. So perhaps we should be thanking Madame Pele for once this year. Softlavender (talk) 03:18, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
So pleased to read this good news. You would seem to live in the best position in the state and probably in the United States. All the best! ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 08:45, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
Indeed, glad to hear the news is good SL: apologies, though, for some reason I always thought you were in...err!...New York?! Odd! Either way, I'm glad all is well and your air is cleaner 🌼 —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 09:30, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

consensus for courtesy blanking of libelous material

In regard to this edit: Where is the proper forum to seek consensus for a thing like this? Michael Hardy (talk) 03:25, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

The talkpage of the page in question would be the first place to try. If there were actually anything libelous on the page (there isn't), you could also query WP:BLPN. -- Softlavender (talk) 03:30, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
Why are you so sure there isn't before the case has been made? Michael Hardy (talk) 18:25, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
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" WP:Articles for deletion/Ancestral health has been blanked and protected despite a unanimous consensus of 13 admins and experienced editors against blanking: "

This insinuates misuse of the tools on my part-- that I acted against consensus and then abused the community's trust to enforce that action. To be clear I responded to a request at WP:RFPP, saw what looked like a bizarre yet clear-cut need for protection and protected the disputed page. As the request was for indefinite full protection and I protected for two days, I think it was a measured, reasonable and even-handed response. I noted on the talk page at the time that I disagreed with the blanking and felt that other remedies were available. I would also like to point out that the protection was mooted by the number of admins edit warring on the page. Any of them could have unblanked. The only way I new about this insinuation was I was mentioned in the ANI thread by someone pointing out my lack of involvement. I would certainly appreciate it if you would notify me when calling my actions into question, especially on a notice board like ANI, or first raise your concerns on my talk page. Thanks, -- Dlohcierekim (talk) 12:07, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Perche

Re this post: the RfC already did have a brief and simple question, and it may be found at the start of the section, preceded by the word "Brief". The upshot on the RfC listings is that one entry has been replaced by something that is not much different (in fact it is three words longer), and since the rfcid was changed, all the inward links have been broken. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 14:15, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Fram

Honestly their comportment at AN/I is a big part of the reason I'm opposing the actions they're supportingLess receptive to your comments than I'd otherwise be. Notwithstanding that I suspect canvassing led to the influx of frequently correlated accounts all singing from the same songbook, their combative tone toward any dissent is really off-putting. Like they're calling me a liar because I disagree with them? No. Simonm223 (talk) 13:48, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Well, you've just admitted to a bad-faith !vote. Softlavender (talk) 13:55, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Actually I didn't. I clearly supported the first proposal with my !vote before Fram started attacking me. What I'm saying is that their comportment is making it pretty hard for me to see their side and I felt it better to tell you that here than going off on a tangent even further at AN/I. Simonm223 (talk) 13:57, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
"Honestly their comportment at AN/I is a big part of the reason I'm opposing the actions they're supporting." Softlavender (talk) 13:59, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Poorly phrased. Rewording and striking through as appropriate. Simonm223 (talk) 14:04, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Edgar Snyder

Hi, I'm the editor who started the discussion on the reliable sources noticeboard about using yearbooks as sources. Anyway, thanks for your participation. I see you've been editing Snyder's bio. Looks good. I'm writing because I added content in the lead, which I see you just removed, about Snyder's ubiquitous advertising. I did so because it's the overwhelming, or perhaps only, reason Snyder is notable. Therefore, I was shocked there wasn't anything about it in the lead. The Pittsburgh area has literally thousands of lawyers, but Snyder became notable because he completely saturated television and other media (radio, magazines, phone books, etc.) with his advertising. It made him very famous (or infamous, depending on one's outlook) and put his name recognition locally at nearly 100%, according to sourcing already in the article. So I felt it was vital to expand the lead to include why he became so well known and therefore notable. Without the massive advertising, he almost surely would not be Wikipedia notable. What do you think? 2605:A000:FFC0:D8:3059:8016:5847:3E43 (talk) 13:10, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi. Please confine all discussion of the content of the article to the article's talkpage, rather than usertalk pages. Softlavender (talk) 13:11, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank God some sense

I couldn't have put it better myself. But there are people defending these daft and dubious stubs to the hilt... Sigh... Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 10:53, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

Apparently he was on a spree. If he created more of these uncited stubs re: areas outside of UAE, I'm afraid Wikipedia has a giant cleanup on its hands. Softlavender (talk) 10:59, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
Alexandermcnabb, you should probably post a notice about the problem on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United Arab Emirates. For convenience, you can just link to [16] if desired. -- Softlavender (talk) 11:05, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

To my knowledge, I'm the only active member on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United Arab Emirates - and one of the lapsed ones is Mr Geography. I'm onto Ras Al Khaimah next and it's a truly Augean task... The NUMBER of 'Keep, it might be useful' responses has amazed me and when I tried to create a similar stub for an EXISTING location, it got speedy deleted and moved to draft. Le sigh. Thanks for the smiles, though! :) Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 14:30, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

Then if I were you Alexandermcnabb I'd find a relevant active Wikiproject; perhaps Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Arab world. -- Softlavender (talk) 14:44, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
I'm almost done. I'll have a go at RAK tomorrow and if I find another pile of this stuff beyond that I'll take your advice and scream for help. Cheers! Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 14:50, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
Alexandermcnabb (forgive the pings: I'm not sure if you are watching), I am mainly talking about the AfDs. If people are using faulty rationales for !voting to keep articles on "places" that either don't exist or don't exist where the "article" states, then more knowledgeable people need to participate in those AfDs. Softlavender (talk) 14:57, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
NP pings, watching for discussion. Agree, but so far most AfDs are (thanks to your additional interventions) going well. One was even turned into a passable-ish stub because my 'sarcasm' (exasperation!) stung one participant into finding reasons why one tiny community was notable. Which was, after all, a good WP result! :) Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 15:10, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks again for your voice of reason. After a long day cleaning out a very Augean stable, it's nice to know someone else agrees with the decisions! Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 15:02, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

A final and heartfelt thanks - I got to the end of the whole Ras Al Khaimah mess. :) Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 09:34, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Yay! I'm glad you came to the end of the alphabet. My worry is that John Carter got ahold of other such pamphlets and created numerous nonsensical three-word stubs about other non-existent places. I'm almost afraid to look. Someone needs to look through ALL of John Carter's created articles. Softlavender (talk) 09:41, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
I think you're safe, it was just UAE. Here's my guess: in 1959, the Trucial Oman Scouts went around the countryside asking people where they were and to whom they owed loyalty. This was eventually used to create the borders of the modern UAE. However, in the intervening 60-odd years, places have come and gone, been subsumed by development or had originally either been encampments or temporary dwellings. The people of the time were often nomadic. Some place names are very funny ('Ku'far means 'unbeliever', so someone was having his inquisitive white British leg pulled. Those place names got copied down and repeated (many early Internet drop-down menus used archaic town names like Dubayy for Dubai or A'Sharikha for Sharjah), and M. Carter got hold of a 1987 version of that list and just banged it without checking into Wikipedia. That's my 2p worth as to how it all happened! And the spellings are a devil - only recently have spellings started to settle down - Wadi Qawr or Wadi Quwr or Wadi Qor etc. Hey ho! Bestest Alexandermcnabb (talk) 09:53, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Final warning: stop adding unsourced, contentious content to a BLP

Regarding Edgar Snyder, what are you trying to prove by continually restoring unsourced, contentious content to a BLP? You have been editing long enough to know that you do not add information that is not contained in the sources. This is your third warning about this. We write what the sources say, not what we assume happened after that. 2605:A000:FFC0:D8:3059:8016:5847:3E43 (talk) 15:00, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi. Please confine all discussion of the content of the article to the article's talkpage, rather than usertalk pages. Softlavender (talk) 15:03, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
This discussion is about your disruptive behavior, not about the content of the article. 2605:A000:FFC0:D8:3059:8016:5847:3E43 (talk) 16:00, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
I've dropped a note on the talk page. I think you have gone over WP:3RR, so please see the talk page discussion ASAP. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:04, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
Actually, you're incorrect. I had 3 and SL had 3, and she hit the 3 first. But my 3 were allowed under 3RR exemption #7. So, why didn't you issue SL a warning? 2605:A000:FFC0:D8:3059:8016:5847:3E43 (talk) 18:42, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
Because the job of an admin is to try and reduce disruption and defuse difficult situations, not whack a longstanding editor (with a clean block log) over the head with a silly block! And "I am right and the other party is wrong" never gets you off the hook with a block. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:27, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you!

I really appreciate the improvements you have added to my little article idea SL. Wikipedia:Squirrel! may need a further member in it's listing! Kind regards, Simon Adler (talk) 06:17, 16 September 2018 (UTC)


Haha yes, squirrelling is fun! Congrats on your first article, Si, and thanks for the strawberries! Softlavender (talk) 06:20, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

User raintheone

I am very sorry for the way i have acted. I should not get my personal life involved with editing. I enjoy editing and all my edits are detailed and good. I like watching Hollyoaks and i feel like i am helping them while editing the characters. I promise to stay away from User raintheone if she stays away from my editing Thank you Pdineen03 (talk) 17:19, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Good Grief (in the voice of Charlie Brown)

This is still going on?! Feel free to remove this S. MarnetteD|Talk 18:30, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Why yes, M. Admins Gone Wild is a weekly show, after all. And lately it has added a degree of mystery and confusion to the episodes. Softlavender (talk) 22:38, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
HeeHee. MarnetteD|Talk 22:57, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

arabic geography

It would be really great if you could please be more AGF with john's items as to whether they are nonsense or not, I could wordbomb here about the problems that have been discussed at length on mcnabs talk page - it is very easy to judge - but somewhat more problematic (If you are indeed and arabic speaker with knowledge of the middle east, please check me - my original expertise is Indonesia) - than meets the eye - to litter AFD's with 'nonsense' may fulfil some need for your part, but I would be very cautious as to indiscretions by many here on wp - who think they have a valid source - that turns out to be, in many cases complete and utter BS through no fault of their own. salaam. JarrahTree 05:57, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Noted, but not going to happen. Softlavender (talk) 05:58, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Multichannel television in the United States

I didn't realize the definition of "MVPD" had been removed. I'm not sure if what I did to restore the definition was correct, but it's as good a place as any. The article went through a major overhaul. I had contributed a lot of the content prior to the overhaul but I've pretty much left it alone since then.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 17:17, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

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Chinese in New York City

Please don't blanket revert thousands of longstanding bytes without discussion first. Most of the notable people without their own Wikipages are notable enough to warrant their own Wikipage. That's the WP:burden. Your understanding of this issue is not correct. Did you happen to see the note left above by the reviewer on my Talk page regarding a new article I created? The standard is that those listed with refs who could warrant their own page qualify to remain in the notable people section, rather than people who already have Wikipages created. But your thinking defies logic, because you're implying that until a Wikipage is created, one is not notable - but a Wikipage cannot be created in the first place unless one is notable. Does that make sense? Castncoot (talk) 06:14, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Castncoot (talk) 06:10, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Energy

If you got the energy, there's another bunch of those useless geostubs over at AfD! :) Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 11:21, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

You know, it's almost worth the effort of the cleanup to read your marvellously grumpy Delete votes! :) Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 13:37, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding what you have done. Leo1pard (talk) 11:37, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

O'Keefe

Thanks for your edits at the Dan O'Keefe page. If you have the interest at some point there is a similar COI tag at Festivus, which would be nice to have removed before December. O'Keefe edited that page quite a bit, but I've had it watchlisted and there doesn't seem to be any major violations but good additions to the concept and history of the topic. Thanks again. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:44, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Done. :) Softlavender (talk) 12:48, 17 October 2018 (UTC) Randy Kryn (talk) 22:42, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, now Festivus can be celebrated by tens of thousands (or at least tens) without the template blocking the view. You, good editor, have deservedly survived many feats of strength. Thanks again! Randy Kryn (talk) 22:42, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

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Barnstars

Awww, thanks, that was very sweet of you!!! :) Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 09:58, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Short note

You may imagine that I would have appreciated it if you'd said that the first time you reverted, instead of just using rollback with no explanation, especially considering that I provided an explanation for my revert and that it was clearly not vandalism. I'm not interested in edit-warring, though. Mr rnddude (talk) 18:12, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I realized that even while it happened, Mr rnddude. I pushed the wrong button and it was too late. Softlavender (talk) 18:14, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
It's ok. Hadn't thought of that, rollback doesn't provide a prompt. Thanks for taking the time to explain. Happy editing. Mr rnddude (talk) 18:15, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
Unless someone is an inveterate trollish/disruptive editor, I assess issues and behavior rather than how often I have disagreed with someone (just ask Jytdog LOL). I only recall disagreeing with you a few times on ANI (I think I snapped at you once recently for being dramatic), or more precisely I can't really remember whether I often disagree with you or not, but like I said I don't keep track and I try to assess every case on its merits. Softlavender (talk) 04:36, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank You

Apologies for my missteps. Thank you for your help with the format.71.56.169.162 (talk) 00:54, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

You're welcome. Softlavender (talk) 00:55, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
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