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Nobody is speaking to you like you're an idiot. The explanation simply states that it's not necessary to state that something that is a obviously a storyline is in fact a storyline. Conventionally, articles do not use the headers in that way. The paragraph itself will explain his involvement. The headers that existed before either of our edits were sufficient and have been restored. NJZombie (talk) 07:19, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry if I have been edit warring. The note you said before made me feel like you were insulting me, and I'm sorry. The recent edit I made for the title was "Teaming and feuding with Immortal (2010-present)", is that okay? I changed your edit because that section isn't really all about his championships and also I want to keep a section that says what he currently is doing. So again, I'm not trying to edit war and if their is anything else that you think I should fix please tell me. Sir Wrestler (talk) 19:06, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

I have no issue with that edit whatsoever. It was primarily the "Storyline with" headers and I only made that last total revert when I saw that you weren't responsible for both of the instances where it was used. All's good! 06:14, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

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The Observer

Thought I'd pop in and ask what your position was replacing all references to the Observer in your recent edits, as it's wholly reliable as a resource when it comes to event results. Was this a personal preference, as otherwise I can't think of a proper reason to scrap established links. Papacha (talk) 22:58, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, actually I don't even know why. I guess I didn't know the source too well or something. Again sorry.Sir Wrestler (talk) 03:59, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh, no harm or anything. You changed what you thought was an invalid reference; your reasoning beforehand was lost to me is all. Cheers. Papacha (talk) 10:22, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

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	Congratulations, Sir Wrestler, you've recently made your 1,000th edit to articles on English Wikipedia! Thank you for helping improve and expand wrestling-related material in the encyclopedia, and for all your contributions. Keep up the good work! Maryana (WMF) (talk) 22:37, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism

Hello, your edits on recent edits on Layla El are tagged as vandalism please don't deleted corrected and sourced information. --SCWA Ladies Champion (talk) 15:55, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi, um I respect what you are saying but how is that vandalism? I just thought that the week-by-week events were unnecessary and not allowed on Wikipedia. I also thought those extra subsections were unneeded too. I mean how is a segment with Cyndi Lauper at all noteworthy or the description of all the things that happend during it? Again I somewhat understand and I respect what you are saying but please clarify. Thanks. Sir Wrestler (talk) 00:56, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

sources

Hey, I noticed you've been making some good edits and updates to certain wrestlers. I just want to inform you that, when using a source such as PWTorch, could you fill in the "Work", "First name", "Last name" and "Access Date" fields as well when sourcing instead of just "Title" and "URL"? Just use to Cite form above, template is "Cite Web". Work = Pro Wrestling Torch, First name = James, Last Name = Caldwell etc. Starship.paint (talk) 12:45, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Sure, thanks for telling me. Sir Wrestler (talk) 17:56, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

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daniel bryan

I notice you revert my edits regarding Bryan's article, particularly regarding Bryan's feud with Punk and Kane. I replaced several WWE.com sources with PWTorch.com sources because Wikipedia prefers secondary sources rather than primary sources. Also the point is that you restored that "Bryan and Punk would then begin a concurrent feud with Kane, after attacking him with steel chairs on several occasions", you removed the info which I originally added that it all started with Bryan framing Punk by hitting Kane with a chair. I think it's important to show how the feud all started, as your version of the account is a bit vague. Starship.paint (talk) 07:53, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Brands

Its already been discussed about brands so please don't delete the headers on Eve Torres its already been decided brands in headers will not bee used anymore so don't change or deleted headers.--SCWA Ladies Champion (talk) 02:17, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

As I said removing brand as per WP:PW discussion. any objections should be raised there so don't delete the Heel turn and Ex section since the their isn't brands anymore. If you continue to not lisen I will report you to Adminstrators.--SCWA Ladies Champion (talk) 20:52, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry if I've been a little disruptive. I was not fully aware the the discussion but I am now. My intentions are never to be disruptive and I always want to improve the articles of the subject I love. Again, I am truly sorry. Sir Wrestler (talk) 21:28, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Pay him no mind; you've made no breach of policy nor has he grounds to report you. He's misinterpretted the discussion over whether to assign wrestlers and titles brands during their article intros. Papacha (talk) 13:53, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me. Sir Wrestler (talk) 00:49, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

WWE.com as a source

I notice your current edits like to Dolph Ziggler where you added a WWE.com source. Wikipedia prefers secondary sources to primary sources so we should, if possible, try to use sources like slam.canoe.ca or pwtorch.com regarding TV/PPV results. Also, wrestlingattitude is unreliable and should not be used. Starship.paint (talk) 07:14, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

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American Perfection

They were actually, Vickie Guerrero stated it on Twitter and everything stating that she would name their stable American Perfection, which by the way she confirmed. And there should be an article about it because WWE recognized them as a tag team, going for numerous tag titles and everything. Hemmeband17 (talk)

Yeah, but they never actually went by that name. Cole or Lawler didn't call them that, WWE didn't call them that, they weren't credited as that on WWE.com. I'm not saying this shouldn't be an article, I'm just saying the name just isn't right considering the fact that they never went by that. Sir Wrestler (talk) 20:11, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Sure beats boring names like "Swagger and Ziggler" though. People will quibble about what name to put first and all that. Stuff like AP avoids that even if it is based on a tweet. Ideally no teams should have names like that. Mysterio & Cara and Kingston & Truth didn't benefit from this like PTP, Hell No and Rhodes Scholars have. Ranze (talk) 15:56, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Tyson Kidd

I see you've deleted some info about Kidd vs Tensai in his article. You claim that it's not noteworthy. However I'd like to point out that it was a feud on Raw, not Superstars, nor NXT. The Tensai/Kidd feud was a sub-story of Kidd's attempt at MITB in the second half of 2012. It was Kidd's most relevant and noteworthy moment in one and a half years since his breakup with Smith and parading of Jackson Andrews in late 2010. Therefore I think it should be included. Kidd's kinda dropped off back to NXT and Superstars other than his jobbing on SmackDown to Wade Barrett. Starship.paint (talk) 05:57, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Hello? I saw you made an edit today, would appreciate if you gave a reply to this.. Starship.paint (talk) 08:25, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi, sorry about not responding and sorry if I was a little jerkish in my edit summary but I got a little frustrated when I saw his Money in the Bank participation in the wrong section. I know he feuded with Tensai but I felt as though it was not worth mentioning considering it was like not even a week of feuding. Obviously you think differently and again sorry about the late response. I hope we can talk about this so please write me back as soon as can. Sir Wrestler (talk) 19:19, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Okay... basically for his MITB participation, at that time when I edited it I chose to put it in the category before IntAir, because that category was called Singles Competition. I know that the info was in the wrong place chronologically/according to time, but I thought that the MITB run was really distinct from what Kidd was doing with Gabriel as they were, and still are, a on-and-off tag team (both still jobbing in singles competition on Superstars last week?). That's my rationale for putting the MITB run in the "wrong" section. Regarding the feud with Tensai, it was actually... yeah, more than a week of feuding. The first match, the upset, and a post-match attack, one week. The second week there was a tag match involving Tensai and Kidd, but I did not mention that in the article. The third week was MITB itself I guess and during the match Tensai did target Kidd. The fourth week was after MITB where Tensai's win got overturned. So the small feud was really a bit larger than you give it credit for. And this happened wholly on Raw/SD/PPV. Not NXT/Superstars... So I hope you could reconsider your position. Starship.paint (talk) 04:05, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Hey, still awaiting your reply. I'm going to add it back in first. Starship.paint (talk) 03:45, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Your edits at Santino Marella

I notice you've reverted my copyediting, without giving any reason why. Do you have a reason? If so, I'd like to hear it and possibly work on a compromise. Much of the article was poorly written and needlessly wordy when I found it. Putting it back that way doesn't help anyone. If there are any specific points of the current wording that you disagree with or are unclear to you, let me know. My cleanup wasn't perfect, but it is a major improvement. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:39, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

And now I notice you started doing the same thing at Christopher Daniels while I typed this. Again, if you have any specific concerns, specify what they are. You may be right. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:44, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry if I'm being a douche I didn't know you were writing this while I was making these edits, as I wrote in my edit summary not every sentence needs to be in paragraph formatting, pay-per-views are not put in Italics, and I don't know what you are talking about with these being wordy. Again lets talk about this before things get out of hand so write me back as soon as you can. Sir Wrestler (talk) 01:51, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Italics for PPVs is a bit of a grey area. Depends whether you consider them as a live event or a TV event. I'd be OK with leaving them unitalicized, considering the lack of a solid policy.

Every sentence doesn't need a paragraph, but every new general idea or topic of discussion does (see here for further explanation). For example, I split the part about the feud with Van Dam from the part about the feud with Styles. Two different feuds. Then he returned to feuding with Styles. New paragraph. Same for chasing the belts with Kazarian, winning them, the stupid Claire storyline, etc. When it's all together in one huge block of text, it's harder to read or find what one's looking for. This is a basic rule of English, and I can't let that slide.

The wordiness thing should be apparent by the fact that, after my edits, the article was about 5,000 bytes smaller, and I'd removed virtually no info. In the first sentence of this edit, "managed to pick up the win" means the same thing as "won", but "won" conveys the idea quicker. No need to specify "the ____ episode of Impact Wrestling" when the preceding sentence already does; saying "the next episode" is clear enough in context. Announcements of matches aren't notable; the matches themselves are. So no need to say the match was announced, then say they had the match and then say who won the match, when it can all be wrapped into one tidy sentence. Wikipedia's Manual of Style says "Writing should be clear and concise. Plain English works best: avoid ambiguity, jargon, and vague or unnecessarily complex wording." Whenever the same thing can be said in fewer words, it's best. So I can't agree to re-adding wordiness.

Hope you understand. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:58, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Also sorry if I seem like a douche, but I've resplit a few of the paragraphs you joined at Marella. These are separate topics. Ricardo Rodrigues has nothing to do with Zack Ryder, and the Cesaro feud is a whole new story. I get that short paragraphs like these look a bit weird. The answer is to expand upon them, rather than join them. The paragraph about defending against Swagger, then qualifying for Money in the Bank is kind of wrong, since they're separate ideas, but I've left that one, since "Four days later," is a "bridge" connecting them. Just trying to help your writing, not scold it. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:37, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

James Storm

Noticed the part about Roode referencing Storm's daughter was removed from the mention of her in personal life. Isn't it relevant when heels bring face's family into angles though? It's pretty similar to what CM Punk did to Rey Mysterio albeit purely verbal and not onscreen. Ranze (talk) 15:54, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

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Sourcing

Hello Sir Wrestler, when you add sources, could you add in a little more information, not just the title=CALDWELL'S WWE RAW RESULTS 2/18: Complete "virtual-time" coverage of live Raw - Chamber PPV fall-out, big Mania news, Rock's Celebration, Shield six-man tag match|url=http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/wwerawreport/article_68750.shtml but also first name, last name, work/publisher and date accessed to make the reference more complete? |last=Caldwell|first=James|work=Pro Wrestling Torch|accessdate=19 February 2013 ? Thanks! Starship.paint (talk) 06:49, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

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Hi, this is Sir Wrestler but my password suddenly isn't working, so can someone please help me with this and get back to me soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.36.200.172 (talk) 17:48, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Doug Williams

I know the source was originally brought by that Xbeautifullmess chick, she's been doing that for a while and it's starting to annoy me. That comment was meant to her. I didn't bother to check who brought the thing to Williams' page.Ribbon Salminen (talk) 15:25, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Antonio Cesaro

I am sure that you like Cesaro very much but week by week updates are not needed and hurt articles. Don't revert my edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GamingWithStatoke (talk • contribs) 11:31, 3 April 2013

If it is true that you like Antonio, does this mean you are trying to diminish the impact of Kofi's victory by removing mention of the location of his victory over him? Ranze (talk) 19:43, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Okay, well even if we don't mention the bombings, it's still worthwhile mentioning that he won in his hometown. On the other hand: maybe that's the only reason he won and once he's off his home turf, Cesaro will easily win it back! Ranze (talk) 23:48, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

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Re: Kane/Layla

First, seriously dude, WP:TLDR. Read and utilize in future please. I've no problems explaining my edits if asked, all you have to do is ask. A massive long-winded spiel doesn't help.

Re: Kane. About Josh Mathews: the article says "As a result of Bryan and Kane's issues, AJ enrolled them in anger management classes". Nothing to do with Josh Mathews. Besides, why would Bryan be enrolled in anger management classes if he didn't attack anybody. As it stands, Kane's article contains the necessary information. I split the Team Hell No paragraph purely because of the image. Your placement of it causes the text to become sandwiched between the two images, which should be avoided. Splitting it at the point that the feud with The Shield started was the most logical solution to that.

Re: your massive rant regarding tv shows: we are not here to provide weekly match results. We provide a summary. Summaries don't need to constantly state the tv show over and over and over. You also evidently missed the discussion at WP:PW regarding repetitiveness and poor writing. Constantly stating "on the x episode of y" is boring, dull, repetitive, and downright lazy writing. If people want to know exactly what it was they can look at the reference, or go to a listing of her match results, e.g. cagematch. That's not what Wikipedia is for. Never has been, never will be. What relevance does that one match have to her overall career? People don't think Layla: tag team WM match vs. Snooki and whoever. Or at least, I don't. As part of her career: not so notable. Again, included in LayCool, which is more detailed than either of the individual's articles are, or should be.

Starting a section off with "She returned on x" is patently ridiculous. Returned from what? The injury and her return are obviously intrinsically linked and should stay together. The AJ/Kaitlyn thing: your edit didn't make any sense. "In June, Layla allied herself with Kaitlyn during her feud with A. J. Lee" - whose feud with AJ? Kaitlyn's feud? Layla's feud? That was the first mention of AJ in the whole article, so how was Layla feuding with her?

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Marella changes

Hey, just thought I'd be clearer about this edit, point-by-point.

• "Following" was spelled incorrectly, and is more than twice as long as "next", which means the same.
• "Was defeated by" is passive voice.
• "Costing him the match" doesn't say how (pinned).
• "Intercontinental Championship" is unneeded, since readers know which title we're talking about.
• "but were unsuccessful in winning the titles from" is wordier, and "title" should be singular. Two belts, but one tag title, shared between them.
• "Marella and Kozlov" should be "they", since readers know who we mean. "Episode of" goes without saying.
• Changing Snuka to Tamina and dropping Slater and Gabriel's first names was actually good. Thanks. I'll readd those.
• Same with dropping Vladimir, but "dissolving the partnership" is a bit too flowery.
• More "episode of", but a few good changes.
• "Began feuding" should be "feuded" in past tense.

I'll put back the good things, but please don't mess with the others. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:24, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

What about the joint paragraphs? Sir Wrestler (talk) 21:27, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

The feud with Ryder and the feud with Rodriguez are two separate ideas, so should naturally have two paragraphs. But, if you insist, it wouldn't be as bad as the rest. But avoid "the likes of..." or "wrestlers such as...". Informal and vague, and suggests the listed wrestlers are all somehow similar without saying how. It's like misusing "etcetera" (not that you did, just saying). InedibleHulk (talk) 01:32, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

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Connecting my email to my account

Hey everyone, It's been a while since I've discussed anything and I'm not sure if anyone will see this but I have a question. So I'm from the earlier years of Wikipedia and today I got logged out of my account and it said I needed an email to reset my password. I never hady email connected to my account as it was always you could just reset your password on the spot. Is there any way to add your email to an account that is about 6 years old (weird to believe it's been that long lol)? Really hope to hear back. Sir Wrestler (talk)

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