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Please comment on Talk:Beheading in Islam

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Season's Greetings

Hello Sam Sailor: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, North America1000 15:30, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

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Thank you, Northamerica1000, and the same to you. — Sam Sailor 23:46, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 51, 2016)

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Helena Bergström

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Ramzi Maqdisi page

Hello Sam Sailor,

I am address to you because an article I am working on was nominated for deletion and I do not know how to manage it. I read one talk of you with the same user who proposed the deletion. Here you can see the conversation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Parauleira#Nomination_of_Ramzi_Maqdisi_for_deletion.

Thank you very much in advance, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parauleira (talk • contribs) 16:18, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Hi Parauleira. I'll be happy to help, if I can. Could you pick the two or three sources that talk most about him and list them here, please? — Sam Sailor 23:46, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Dear Sam Sailor, thank you very much!! Here I will list some of the references I provided on the page:

[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] Those are some references in English. I am collecting more in this moment. Thank you very much Parauleira (talk) 06:43, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ http://blog.palestine-studies.org/2016/09/08/solomons-stone-theater-of-the-absurd-in-occupied-jerusalem/
  2. ^ http://mizna.org/articles/news/146.shtml
  3. ^ http://www.bostonpalestinefilmfest.org/filmmaker/ramzi-maqdisi/
  4. ^ http://www.cinemed.tm.fr/cgi-bin/film/film.cgi?cine=1&id=17951&festi=76&lemenu=2&uk=oui&mod=proguk
  5. ^ https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/589078128/martin-luther-king-jr-in-palestine?lang=en
@Parauleira: I've had a look at all references currently found in Ramzi Maqdisi. The overall guideline we follow is the General notability guideline with its mantra "a topic is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." That is not yet the case for Maqdisi, at least with the current sourcing: his participation as an actor in The Attack, Omar, and Love, Theft and Other Entanglements is in minor roles, and the films he has directed/photographed are short films without substantial coverage in sources. Thus the specific notability guidelines WP:NACTOR and WP:FILMMAKER are not met either. I'm sorry I can't help salvaging this article; maybe you can find some comfort in reading the essay Wikipedia:Too soon. — Sam Sailor 10:50, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

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Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays

Merry Christmas, Sam Sailor!
Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia. And for all the help you've thrown my way over the years. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity. Onel5969 TT me 23:49, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for your very kind greetings, onel5969, and have my best wishes in return. — Sam Sailor 11:30, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

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This week's article for improvement (week 52, 2016)

World plate tectonics (click on map for more details)
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Tectonics

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Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas Sam Sailor!!
Hi Sam Sailor, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year,

Thanks for all your help on the 'pedia!

   –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 22:32, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
  • Thank you for your friendly wishes, David, but we need not compare contribs to know that it is I how should be thanking you, and be thanking you for the esprit with which you argue, edit, and guide in these waters. I hope you have had some good Wiki-free days yourself, and in the likely event that my habitual laziness prevents me from posting you a proper New Year card on your talk page, would you here please have my best wishes for your good health in the year ahead. Best, — Sam Sailor 02:00, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

Hello Sam Sailor: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Samsara 15:56, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

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Best wishes to you and yours! Samsara 15:56, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

  • Why, thank you Samsara, and would you please have my sincere hope that you and yours enjoyed and are enjoying some happy days filled with contentment and joy. And thank you for all you have been doing for this project for more than 13 years. May we have the benefit of your 14th just ahead of us. Best, — Sam Sailor 02:00, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
    • Thanks for your kind words, Sam. I'll keep doing my best. May you also continue your good work here for many years to come - you seem to be a great force for good on the project. Best, Samsara 04:06, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry, merry!

From the icy Canajian north; to you and yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 15:00, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

  • Thank you so much for your wishes, Bill, and I hope you had happy holidays yourself and are enjoying a relaxing boxing week. Among the many people in arts and music we had to part with this year, it made me sad that your countryman Leonard Cohen was one of them. But what a life he had, and what an impact he made. In his 2010 acceptance speech for the Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award he quoted his song Tower of Song: "But you'll be hearing from me baby, long after I'm gone" and I am sure those words will be proven right. Bill, may you have a safe a sound new year. Best, — Sam Sailor 02:00, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Sam Sailor!

Happy New Year!

Sam Sailor,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
–Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 13:43, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

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This week's article for improvement (week 1, 2017)

Some of the Aeolian Islands
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Aeolian Islands

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Positive thoughts for 2017, Sam Sailor

Thank you for all the time and effort you have been devoting to Wikipedia, Sam Sailor.
May health and happiness be yours for all the time to come --

Happy New Year 2017!

Best wishes,
— Roman Spinner 04:17, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

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Wikidata weekly summary #242

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  • Development
    • When a {{#statements:…}} property couldn't be resolved, a tracking category will be added (phab:T50799)
    • Rewrote Special:NewItem and all other Special:New… pages to use OOUI error handling (phab:T150205)
    • Getting ready the basic Lexeme prototype (phab:T146662)
    • Continued work on federation basics (phab:T149580)
    • Release version 1.0.0 of the DataTypes component
    • Enjoying the holidays and getting ready for this year's challenges. Hope you do to :)

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THX

Thanks for the wishes! Maybe we will have the opportunity to work more together this year ;) Best, Cartoon network freak (talk) 22:01, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Happy New Year

Happy New Year!
Hello Sam Sailor:

Did you know ... that back in 1885, Wikipedia editors wrote Good Articles with axes, hammers and chisels?

Thank you for your contributions to this encyclopedia using 21st century technology. I hope you don't get any unnecessary blisters.

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Happy new year

Belatedly...apologies for that, thank you for your good wishes and all the best to you for 2017. May your sailing (editing) be plain and not beset by fake Italian families or IP-hopping F1 editors! Eagleash (talk) 13:12, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

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This week's article for improvement (week 2, 2017)

Professional audio – pictured is a portable setup of various live audio production and recording equipment
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Professional audio

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Furio De Monaco

Hi Sam_Sailor, it was stupid closing it. Too quick I think on my part to speedy keep. Total waste of time. Personally I think it is now well forward of the WP:NBASKETBALL standard. I can't see profit in doing it it again. But at the same time, there is value is seeing it being done by consensus in motion, not backdoor deals as it is at the moment. Reopen? scope_creep (talk) 00:18, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

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This week's article for improvement (week 3, 2017)

Some of the human organs
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Organ (anatomy)

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NAC after a single day?

I think you acted beyond your remit, making a non-admin close after a single day of discussion. Will you revert yourself or shall I take this to deletion review? Chris Troutman (talk) 03:55, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

And your objection is? — Sam Sailor 03:57, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
You're not an admin and you closed the discussion after a single day. While I understand IAR is a policy, I don't think it makes the encyclopedia better to end discussion preemptively on the belief that you're cutting down a backlog. Normally I would just shrug off this sort of behavior but I'm told then unless editors complain about bad AfD closes then everyone assumes it was fine. So, I'm making an issue of this. Chris Troutman (talk) 04:04, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
What I seem to hear is the argument you're not an admin and you closed the discussion after a single day, [therefore it is a] bad AfD close. I had hoped for something PAG based, but I do remember the non-policy based deletion argument made in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wolf of Soissons with the unusual statement that "As for me, sources I can neither evaluate nor use are not sources at all, to my mind.", and your subsequent post on my talk page.
Having passed by Porta Maggiore daily during a year of studying in Rome in the late 1980s and being familiar with the topic of Aqua Anio Novus does not exactly diminish my surprise over seeing that someone would nominate Aqua Anio Novus for deletion. The nomination, short of complying with WP:AFDHOWTO, with the WP:ASSERTN argument "No importance" as nominator's only edit here, demonstrates a lack of knowledge of subject that perhaps makes a speedy keep under WP:SK#3 possible, a criterion explicitly mentioned as appropriate in WP:NADC, but here I chose a WP:SCLOSE under WP:SNOW, as four editors opined for "keep".
I don't see any other outcome than "keep" or maybe "speedy keep" possible regardless of who closes that discussion and when they close it, e.g. the idea you mentioned in a comment that the article could be userfied to your user space so you "could rewrite ... and get a DYK out of it" is in my opinion unlikely to gain traction or be a good argument at DRV, cf. WP:DRVPURPOSE. Regards, — Sam Sailor 15:07, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
You're not wrong in your assessment. I acknowledged in my own AfD comment that I saw a consensus for keep forming. However, I think IAR shouldn't be an essay, let alone a policy. (That's not a policy-based argument of mine, at all.) While you might see utility in closing a discussion that looks like a foregone conclusion, I see a case-by-case slapdash disregard of the rules, which is offensive to me. Had the discussion went the full seven days and closed as it had I'd live with it. Had you been an elected-for-life admin and closed it early I'd recognize I'd have to get you desysopped for a pattern of misconduct since deletion review wouldn't end in my favor. I'm a very selfish editor and I'm not going to improve that article unless I can get something out of it and it'll continue to be an eyesore for years to come. In the past I'd've ignored these missed opportunities but now that we have editors who require complaints in order to admit there was a problem I'm forced to voice my opinion lest someone believe I was ok with it. Thanks anyway, for your response. I'm more concerned with the abuse of IAR than I am with the apparent consensus. Chris Troutman (talk) 16:02, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

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Wikidata weekly summary #243

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  • Development
    • Attended the Wikimedia Developer Summit to talk about a lot of things (including editing Wikidata from Wikipedia directly, back-end work for structured data support for Commons - specifically Multi Content Revisions, ideas for improvements to the query service)
    • Final touches to get ArticlePlaceholder pages ready for search engine indexing
    • Continued working on "federation" – support for multiple Wikibase repositories (phab:T76007)
    • Clickable prototype for client editing is finally in the works!

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Books and Bytes - Issue 20

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Issue 20, November-December 2016
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  • Partner resource expansions
  • New search tool for finding TWL resources
  • #1lib1ref 2017
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Thanks, JustBerry. — Sam Sailor 16:47, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Sjö. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Urban developers, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you. Sjö (talk) 08:27, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Hejsan Sjö, hur är läget? It's fine marking that page as "unreviewed", the speedy tag marked it as patrolled. (We, the community, possibly need to clarify the use of the terms "review" and "patrol" in respect to NPP and the new user group.) I'll be taking the page to AfD a little later. — Sam Sailor 16:45, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 4, 2017)

Ghanaian nationalists celebrating the 50th anniversary of national independence in 2007
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Wikidata weekly summary #244

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  • Discussions
    • New administrator: Pyb is now admin on Wikidata!
  • Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Development
    • Created a new Special:EntityPage, needed for federation (phabricator:T153499)
    • Sitelink "name" and "badges" in diffs are now translated (phabricator:T111016)
    • Worked on finalizing mockups for editing Wikidata from Wikipedia and co. Now working on the click-dummy for it so we can try it with you.
    • Last touches for automated sitelinks for Wiktionary.
    • A ton of refactoring needed for Wiktionary support.
    • More research on improving our input widgets (for example URL and date).

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Adminship

Hi Sam, I was looking through potential admin candidates and your name came up. You seem to have a good mix of content and administrative work, particularly in AfD and CSD, and you might finds the tools useful. Would you be interested in going for RfA at any time? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:34, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi Ritchie, and thank you for the confidence you place in me. I see that we share an interest in AfD, and while I haven't lifted any article to the pinnacles of GA, I did detect opportunities to rescued a few from their particular predicaments or lack of tender care. I've been blessed with permission to use some of our unbundled tools, and there is no shortage of tasks to perform with those. Should that get monotonous, there's always CAT:ALS with its 200k+ backlog waiting, a sisyphean task handled by the rarely mentioned WP:URA, but at the same time it is a task that invites one to learn about new subjects, places, and people. So, to answer your question, yes, I'd be happy to serve, but I don't regard adminship as a goal, as something to strive for, I don't think my "Wikilife" would be more fulfilling by having the extra bits in the toolbox, and I doubt I'll be running anytime soon. Because, among the many various virtues and achievements we may want to see in an admin candidate, I think a reasonably consistency in participation is wanted, and mine has been less than stellar since September where real life matters made me try to stay offline in general. But let's stay in touch and reevaluate in say six or 12 months from now. I'm in no hurry. Again, thank you; I'm honored. Best regards, — Sam Sailor 03:19, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

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This week's article for improvement (week 5, 2017)

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Nvidia Shadowplay

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Wikidata weekly summary #245

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  • Development
    • RDF exports will contain sitelink page names as strings in addition to the URLs (phab:T148923)
    • Switching the remaining special pages for labels, descriptions and aliases to the OOUI design (phab:T48248)
    • Finalizing the security review of the Cognate extension for Wiktionary (phab:T149082)
    • We plan to provide og:image Open Graph tags for sharing Item pages in social networks (phab:T51859)
    • Introducing a new test framework for special pages (phab:T69122)
    • Refactoring the wbeditentity API to work with the new Lexeme entity type (phab:T154288)
    • Added docs/change-op-serializations.wiki documenting how to use the wbeditentity API
    • Added a CREDITS file to the Wikibase code base, listing all authors

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Probable socks

Hi, Sam Sailor. Upon my return today after being away, I see that there has been probable socking at those AFDs. So I have filed an SPI case here requesting a check-user. Just wanted to let you know. Thanks for keeping an eye on the discussions. Cheers. — CactusWriter (talk) 17:15, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi CactusWriter, thanks for letting me know. I think "probable" is a very kind way to put it. I might be wrong and I assume you know best, but I can recall that CU requests linking IPs with named accounts being turned down at SPI. But the behavioral evidence should be enough for blocking. — Sam Sailor 17:24, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
Whoops. You're correct. I forgot about that. I'll see about their opinion behavior. — CactusWriter (talk) 18:40, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
​ An evening cuppa and my IKEA sofa have temporarily incapacitated me. I'll be happy to dig up the diffs and file at SPI, if you have better things to do. Let me know. — Sam Sailor 18:48, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
Nah. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Yudisina should be enough. Enjoy. — CactusWriter (talk) 18:55, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
​ And if it isn't, we'll likely not hear a word from them as soon as those AfDs are closed discounting non-policy based !votes. — Sam Sailor 19:06, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #242

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New Page Review - newsletter No.2

Hello Sam Sailor,
A HUGE backlog

We now have 803 New Page Reviewers!
Most of us requested the user right at PERM, expressing a wish to be able to do something about the huge backlog, but the chart on the right does not demonstrate any changes to the pre-user-right levels of October.

Hitting 17,000 soon

The backlog is still steadily growing at a rate of 150 a day or 4,650 a month. Only 20 reviews a day by each reviewer over the next few days would bring the backlog down to a managable level and the daily input can then be processed by each reviewer doing only 2 or 3 reviews a day - that's about 5 minutes work!
It didn't work in time to relax for the Xmas/New Year holidays. Let's see if we can achieve our goal before Easter, otherwise by Thanksgiving it will be closer to 70,000.

Second set of eyes

Remember that we are the only guardians of quality of new articles, we alone have to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged by non-Reviewer patrollers and that new authors are not being bitten.

Abuse

This is even more important and extra vigilance is required considering Orangemoody, and

  1. this very recent case of paid advertising by a Reviewer resulting in a community ban.
  2. this case in January of paid advertising by a Reviewer, also resulting in a community ban.
  3. This Reviewer is indefinitely blocked for sockpuppetry.

Coordinator election

Kudpung is stepping down after 6 years as unofficial coordinator of New Page Patrolling/Reviewing. There is enough work for two people and two coords are now required. Details are at NPR Coordinators; nominate someone or nominate yourself. Date for the actual suffrage will be published later.

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This week's article for improvement (week 6, 2017)

A high school in Malaysia
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Secondary school

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Wikidata weekly summary #246

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Development
    • You can now download query results as SVG images
    • When posting a link to an item to social networks and on messenger apps that show previews the previews will now be nicer and show an image. (phabricator:T51859)
    • We published the results of our research around Commons usage: How do heavy Commons users work? ...and what does that mean for structured data on Commons?
    • Setting up test system for federation (being able to use Wikidata's items and properties on Commons)
    • Setting up test system for lexemes
    • Setting up test system for improved change dispatching (sending notifications about edits on Wikidata to Wikipedia and co)
    • Doing more groundwork for lexemes
    • Working on better integration with Elastic
    • More work on Federation
    • Getting ready to deploy automated sitelinks for Wiktionary
    • Fixing a number of keyboard navigation issues based on your feedback
    • Working on the new datatype for geoshapes (phabricator:T57549)
    • Looking into linking more complicated external identifiers properly (phabricator:T151329)
    • Improved the link to the help portal on the query service (phabricator:T154993)

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This Month in GLAM: January 2017



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Adrijana Krasniqi

Hi, could you please take a look at the improvements of the Krasniqi article. I have added some new info. Plus international media attention, and media coverage pre-Melodifestivalen. And performance at Debaser a known hiphop/rapper stage in Stockholm. BabbaQ (talk) 00:39, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi BabbaQ. This is really telling for how low we have to reach to find anything. She came six and did not qualify for the next round. Then we have Smålandsposten (ironical, that news paper name) and a short 3:49 radio interview. You have been here plenty long to know that we are nowhere near WP:BASIC. Best, — Sam Sailor 00:49, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
That is an opinion. I leave it at that :)--BabbaQ (talk) 00:51, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Paul Whelan (rugby player)

Correct the error when orginally writing the page, misinformation, I confused the two players when writing, while yes the current player does exist his current ability does not merit a wikipedia page. Pat Whelan was the subject i originally wrote on however it was maliciously changed. I reccommend leaving it as Pat Whelan the subject it was on first, It resolves the situation quicker. I am going to revert the change as while it holds a AfD tag it does not require discussion or deletion as I have rewritten and corrected the error made through other editors. Please read the paul version and check sources if desired but Pat was my orginal subject.Oreilly90 (talk) 00:54, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Paul Whelan (Rugby Player)

Lads, it was made as a joke for a lad who plays leinster development, he doesnt merit a wikipedia page. He's talented but not that talented for a wikipedia page yet ahaha. I made the page as a joke with the lads so ban me if ye wish, I created the page. It was a good joke initially he is not currently happy with this situation though, apologises for wasting your time. I have {{Db-blanked}} the page please delete and ban me if ye want and dont revert the page just delete it so he stops crying ahaha.Oreilly90 (talk) 00:02, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Paul Whelan

Hi, on behalf of my idiotic teammates I would like too apologise too you and your wasted efforts and on behalf of leinster. I do play with their development teams however i dont deserve a wiki page and only found out recently they made it and didnt get it on merit. if you would like identity verification please feel free to email me. I dislike the majority of comments made against me by people who dont play or follow rugby as it is hurtful and damaging so i hope you will not revert my post. I just want all of this finished and deleted please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PjdW97 (talk • contribs) 17:27, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

@PjdW97: Paul, thanks for your comment, and you are quite right, the guys who did this are bloody idiots. A. it's a good waste of time for us who do try to take Wikipedia serious, and would have delighted in sourcing an article about you, and B. maybe more importantly because such shenanigans may tarnish the name of the person involved. Good luck with rugby and good luck in general. Sincerely, — Sam Sailor 17:34, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for understanding man, I got dropped from the acd down to the lower team cause the academy is essential 21/22 + and i was playing out of my depth thats when they had a reason to take the biscuit and request deletion and revert and so on. I know who they are OReilly and changerugby alright. They should be banned :). Man, I dont understand how wiki works, how can i just get that page and the artile for deletion removed. I understand ye were helping the resources of wiki but half them comments are unfair, i put it up for deletion best i could. I just want it all gone. Ill have one of these pages one day and by merit not by annoying teammates. Is the page gna be removed at some stage, are users like yourself able too just remove the article for deletion and main page or is there someone i needa message? Thanks again for understanding man.PjdW97 (talk) 17:42, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Paul, I see that NeilN responded to the call for help on your talk page and courtesy blanked the deletion discussion, so we're good? Go and give those teammates a gentle punch in the face for their juvenile transgressions ;) ... and then maybe have a pint and a laugh about it? Anyways, good luck, Paul, if you're ~19 now you're looking forward to a great decade in your life. — Sam Sailor 18:29, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

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Hello Sam, Our old FI IP-hopping chum has now been blocked for 'abusing multiple accounts'. There are multiple pages in user space (I.e. [[:User:Rowde/xxxxxx]]) none of which would ever likely to make it to mainspace. Can CSD G5 (blocked user) be applied or does that only come into effect after the block is imposed? (Some could be tagged 'U5' but of course he's made many edits outside of userspace). Thanks. Hope all is well. Regards, Eagleash (talk) 22:39, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

@Eagleash: Yeah, all's well, you're good? The thing about G5 is that it only applies to pages made in violation of a ban or block. Typical scenario: indef blocked or community banned user returns and creates a page that sounds a lot like something they created before the block/ban. An SPI is opened. A CU confirms that it's the same user. {{Db-g5}}/{{Db-banned}} apply. So, without having had a look-see in their user-space, I guess that MfD is the solution. Is he indef blocked? — Sam Sailor 22:47, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
Yes he's indef. blocked. I thought (after I jumped the gun and tagged one page..I removed it!) that it could only apply once he's been blocked, not retrospectively. U5 should definitely apply to some and one Admin. doesn't seem to worry about edits outside userspace but others do. There's been more deleted via U5 than not though... Do not know how the block came about. Came out of nowhere, no reports filed by those who usually grapple with his edits. Yes all is (relatively) OK at the moment. :P. Thanks for help. Eagleash (talk) 23:02, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
I see nothing when searching for Rowde prefix:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/, and it's not a checkuserblock; you could try ask Favonian about what led to the block. A bundled nomination at MfD is straightforward. — Sam Sailor 23:32, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
I checked with Favonian, who blocked Rowde after confusing him with another blocked editor, because Rowde left an odd message on Fav's TP at precisely the wrong moment. The block is now WP:NOTHERE and TP access has been restored. In the meantime I have taken one of the userpages (abandoned for 9 months) to MfD but I cannot find instructions on 'bundling' the others. I think I've done it before but I can't remember how. Eagleash (talk) 23:56, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
@Eagleash: Instructions are found at § How to list pages for deletion, but perhaps you should read WP:STALE and consider that he just got blocked and at least theoretically could be unblocked. Would he go to WP:REFUND and get it all back? Waiting a month or two or five with those user space drafts doesn't hurt, does it? — Sam Sailor 00:09, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
I did consider the time aspect (so to speak) and started with the most obviously pointless page. It's just one line (the title repeated) for something which actually already exists in mainspace, albeit as a redirect. So I think it really needs to go just as housekeeping. He won't recreate it (if unblocked)...he would have continued working on it if he was at all interested in it. He just realised it was a duplication (and that the redirect contains the hidden advice we discussed previously) and left it lying around. You know how little he understands about Wiki...Refund doesn't seem all that likely somehow. I don't intend to take any more to MfD right now myself...can't speak for any others who have been involved though! Eagleash (talk) 00:25, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

I trust you do what's best in the situation. A pity that editor could not be integrated in the project, but I know you and the other F1 editors did try. — Sam Sailor 00:36, 14 February 2017 (UTC) (P.S. I had been here for more than two years before becoming aware of WP:LISTGAP. Read it and go "oh, my!" I made such blank lines myself, and never gave it a second thought.)

Well, I did invite him to join the project several times but without response...he rarely communicated in any way at all. He created a sockpuppet to 'accept' his own block appeal and now TP access is revoked. Interestingly, he has recently begun editing from a different range which geolocates to Newbury, Berks., UK, so it looks as if his time at the school we discussed previously has come to an end. Some of the content he created about the school (long deleted) indicated he had his problems there too. I don't think I've messed up with blank lines myself...but that's more luck than judgement. Eagleash (talk) 15:16, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
His imperative All Article users must ask my permission to deal with my articles. tells me he isn't fit for a collaborative environment such as ours. Creating a sock to fill in an {{unblock reviewed}}, that's just plain stupid, and reinserting it twice with the master account, well, Favonian hits the nail when he replies "You asked for it", there's a limit to the amount of crap we should take here. — And as for blank lines, you inserted one before your indented reply here. I inserted a colon to comply with MOS:INDENTGAP. I'm still only trying to get into good habits in this regard myself. There was an interview with Graham87 in the Signpost in January. Well worth a read. — Sam Sailor 15:53, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

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Coding for line breaks

Hi, I noticed on your recent edit on the TLC discography page that you added a slash symbol at the end of the code for line breaks, i.e. br/. I'm posting this message to let you know that adding a slash at the end of a break does nothing to change its appearance on the page; so in effect, all it does is add unneeded characters to the page. It's the same with the spaces you added in between | and < > symbols. Adding these does nothing to change the display of the page.Nqr9 (talk) 03:13, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi Nqr9, In this diff of TLC discography I removed the link to We Love TLC per WP:OLINK as it had become a redirect to TLC discography#Compilation albums per consensus at AFD.
Concurrently I ran TMg's script autoFormatter that semi-automatically fixes more than 200 common errors in the wiki markup, one of these fixes is using the syntax <br />. This is a self-closing syntax for the tag, and autoFormatter inserts in the same manner a space in e.g. <ref name=riaa/> so it becomes <ref name=riaa />. You are perfectly correct that adding a space and a slash to <br> so it becomes <br /> does nothing to change its appearance on the page, because the element only shows in edit mode, but it became, if I'm not mistaken, an XML requirement back when XHTML was introduced.
The edit did not introduce spaces between | and < > symbols. We do have a few scripts, e.g. User:Waldir/formatcitations.js (doc) and the fork User:Meteor sandwich yum/Tidy citations.js (doc), that will harmonize the whitespace in citation templates. The effect of the latter can be seen in this diff after I had run WP:REFILL on the bare URLs in the article.
Upon revisiting the discography, I noticed multiple errors in the table markup in § Music videos, see Special:Permalink/765555147#Music videos. These do show up, and I have fixed them. I also noticed that {{Infobox artist discography}} contained the unknown parameters |Video albums= and |Movie=, and I fixed them as well. Let me know if I can be of any further help. — Sam Sailor 11:16, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for explaining. It now makes sense.Nqr9 (talk) 22:45, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
​ YW. Have a look a the changes here, I think there were a few rowspans missing. — Sam Sailor 10:03, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
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