Talk:Death of a Ladies' Man (album)
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Odd sentence
[edit]"Among the seven unknown outtakes is probably "Do I Have to Dance All Night"" <- what does this mean? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.215.162.119 (talk) 19:44, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Putting poeple off
[edit]"Produced by the storied Phil Spector, it was a surprise to some fans when the typically minimalist Cohen was surrounded completely by Spector's Wall of Sound."
- Did this album "put people off?" I have heard many fans were dissapointed by the sound. I can compare it with the sort of surprise the Bob Dylan fans got with Dylan's own double album Self Portrait.
- It's an acquired taste. I do wish the sound were better, though. – Hattrem 23:47, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
By coinsidence (or conspiricy, I'm not sure which) this album has backing vocals by Bob Dylan, which I didn't know about until it was added to the Bob Johnston article. I wish the wailing sax solos to be replace by more pleasent harmonica solos on future remixes.
Outtakes
[edit]There seem to be at least seven outakes from this album, if these had not been edited out of the abum, it could have been Leonard Cohen's first double album, how unfortunate they were taken off (by double album I mean any album that takes up two LP records, even if it can be set on one compact disc).144.139.87.127
- I am not sure about these outakes, there's only one mention of them - "Cohen and Spector wrote fifteen songs in three weeks, with Spector setting Cohen's lyrics to music". (Stephen Holden, "Leonard Cohen Obscured... A Haunting by Spector", Rolling Stone, January 26 1978. - [1]) - but I am not sure does that mean they actually recorded it?
- Also, "Do I Have To Dance All Night?" was already released in 1976 as a single for France and Portugal (taken live in Paris 1976), with Cohen's *own* music, and Spector wrote all music for DOALM without Cohen's influence. So, "Do I Have..." was *probably* one pf outtakes, but it's sure it was an outtake from 1979' Recent Songs. One source confirms it was studio version with choir and brass, the version taken with Lewy during Recent Songs sessions, while Devlin mentioned studio version recorded in Munich in 1976, but replaced with live version from Paris for its 1976 single release. Devlin also confirms Cohen wanted to release free bonus single with Recent Songs, which would contain two outtakes, "Misty Blue" and "Do I Have To Dance All Night", but Columbia rejected the idea. - [2] Tomsak 09:12, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, unless the Recent Songs outtake with choir and brass is the 1976 recording.
- Like you, I also wonder whether the seven remaining songs for Death of a Ladies' Man were recorded or not. (While Spector is indeed supposed to have composed all the music, Cohen has told a story about them sitting down at the piano together and writing songs.) – Hattrem 04:11, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
Mike Randal - 'My music Loves me (even if I dont)
[edit]I wanted to bring attention to a album by Mike Randal called "My Music Loves Me (even if I don't)" http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/store/artist/album/0,,1006187,00.html
The album art is a direct homage to the Death of a Ladies Man album cover. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.174.206.124 (talk) 08:05, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
A strange link
[edit]Why is "Death of a Ladies' Man" in the second paragraph redirected to "promiscuity"? I do realize that "ladies' man" is used to refer to male promiscuity, but the way this information presents itself is really confusing right now. Keith Galveston (talk) 11:03, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Remastered version?
[edit]Is the current CD edition remastered, as is the case for most of L.C.'s pre-1990 albums? --109.193.211.159 (talk) 09:01, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Reception
[edit]The Reception section says the album received negative reviews during its release. The reviews in the review box seem to contrast from that statement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.47.251.142 (talk) 04:10, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
- The reviews with links are most likely more recent reviews (with the exception of the review by Christgau). More recent reviewers have much kinder in their assessment of the album than the reviews that came out upon the album's release. Allmusic.com gives the album particularly high praise. But Christgau's review is much more ambiguous. Though he gave the album a B grade, he called it "bad music."Jpcohen (talk) 16:05, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
Phil Spector quote
[edit]"Listen Phil, if you're goin' to kill me, kill me, " Leonard remarked dryly, "but don't fuck with me ears. I need 'em."
I was surprised to see this being attributed to Leonard Cohen, I always heard it being attributed to John Lennon (and a quick check online shows multiple examples where this is the case).
Lennon / Leonard? Anyone have the book in question so we can verify this? David T Tokyo (talk) 10:12, 14 November 2015 (UTC)