User talk:Sadads/Archive August-November 2010

Children of the Lens (novel)

Hi, not a stub I think!. Springnuts (talk) 16:37, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

reassessed, Sadads (talk) 16:45, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Cadfael a Stub?

Hi Sadads,

I think you may have gone overboard on the 'stub' tags. Cadfael is a 34kb page with 22 sections. It does need an overhaul, it's true, but it really isn't a stub. I will revert. Best wishes Spanglej (talk) 17:29, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Why was it assessed as a stub then? (See history), I am only working with articles assessed as stubs, its the responsibility of authors to keep tabs on what their article is assessed as. Your issue allows me to better identify what article is misassessed. Sadads (talk) 18:10, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Hmm. I suspect that many, if not most, WP article assessments are not kept up to date. And yes, we should keep better tabs. As I say, Cadfael is in need of work. It might be an idea to see if the article being tagged is actually a stub before adding a stub tag. Thanks Spanglej (talk) 18:17, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes they may be out of date, so I am reminding people to assess their articles. How else would you probe 17,000 stubs for ones that need to be reassessed?Sadads (talk) 18:19, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Devil May Care

Hi there.

I see that you've rated Devil May Care as a stub - [1]. Are you sure of that? It seems a complete article to me, not an FA to be sure, but not a stub either. a_man_alone (talk) 22:35, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

I reassessed, it was assessed as a stub by Novels, see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Devil_May_Care_(novel)&diff=378957035&oldid=333860912, Sadads (talk) 23:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Flatland is not a stub

The Flatland article is 16,761 bytes, it isn't a stub. Edward (talk) 04:29, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

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tagging

Hi Sadads. A Thousand Splendid Suns and Methuselah's Children, A House for Mr Biswas, A History of the World in 10½ Chapters aren't stubs. Also A Caribbean Mystery, A Month in the Country (novel) and A Murder is Announced. Women in Love was written by D. H. Lawrence who was English, it's not an American novel. These I changed the tag on.

One I have not altered non-stubs Karen Sisco, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine relaunch, Warsaw Requiem (novel) We Need to Talk About Kevin West of Eden Westmark (novel) Where Eagles Dare When the Wind Blows (James Patterson novel) The Whipping Boy White Jazz White Teeth Wind on Fire Winnie-the-Pooh (book) Winter's Tale (novel) Wolf of the Plains, The Wolves of Willoughby Chase Woodstock (novel) Yellow Dog (novel) Ysabel, Tom's Midnight Garden Towards Zero or The True Confessions of Charlotte Doyle. These are from Aug 8th edits.

Best wishes Spanglej (talk) 06:59, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Eclipse of the Crescent Moon

Hi, I was just wondering about your tag of Eclipse of the Crescent Moon as a stub. What do you think needs to be added, in order for it to be a more complete article? --Emika22 (talk) 11:26, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

a friendly request

Hi, please be aware that you appear to be irritating, albeit in good faith quite a few editors though your tagging efforts. Personally I don't see it as disruptive, or at least not quite, and not yet, but it does have tendencies that way, and you might want to seek a different way to achieve your valid aims. Friendly regards, Springnuts (talk) 12:35, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

I have checked the articles above you identified and added a disclaimer above. I will cease with the stub tagging for right now, but the American novels category still needs lots of work, so soon as I identify what went wrong with the D.H. Lawrence articles, I will continue working on that. I don't think it could possibly be populated correctly. Sadads (talk) 14:34, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Tagging madness, madness, I say.

I appreciate that you've taken on what must be a mammoth job, but common sense is dictating that some of these articles are not stubs. Devil May Care, and Where Eagles Dare are just two.

For Where Eagles Dare you even made some typo corrections[2], so you must have given the article more than a passing glance.

Just expressing concern. a_man_alone (talk) 13:16, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about that, checked assessments on both, thanks!Sadads (talk) 14:31, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

You keep using that tag ... I do not think it means what you think it means

Based on accumulated user comments, as well as my familiarity with an entry you recently tagged as a stub, I don't think you understand what a stub is. I'll just weigh in that your flagging Bridge of Birds as a stub is mystifying. I'll be commenting in the talk section of that entry to see what the consensus is for removing the stub designation. For the record, that entry has an extensive info box, a plot summary, numerous external citations referencing reviews, an image of the cover, etc. Please consider reviewing the definition of stub before continuing to flag articles as stubs. --Quartermaster (talk) 13:40, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Correction. The entry you tagged was for Eight Skilled Gentlemen and not Bridge of Birds. I'm confusing you with someone else who is confused with what a stub is. --Quartermaster (talk) 13:42, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

That is alright, other people have been getting offended that I tag stubs, so I think I need to make a disclaimed at the top of my page, Sadads (talk) 13:44, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Actually, you had it right the first time, Quartermaster. Sadads did add a stub tag to Bridge of Birds, the next editor merely made it a more specific stub. Also, Sadads, I am glad to see you reassessing this article, thanks for that. In case you didn't see it at my talk page, (not sure if the talkback restamp was obvious or not, since you have received other messages that would have triggered the new message banner) there is a list of articles that could use reassessing. :) ^Avic_ennasis @ 14:32, 5 Elul 5770 / 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Not offended, (at least I'm not,) just concerned that some articles that clearly aren't stubs are being tagged as such. a_man_alone (talk) 14:00, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately all of them are already assessed as such, so I am just tagging what is assessed, and its good I am doing so, because I have been able to reassess a number of articles which aren't stubs and have found a number that should remain tagged, which were not. It's a matter of syncing the two stub categories Category:Novel stubs and Category:Stub-Class novel articles both of which are seriously out of date. What better way then editors to self identify articles that don't belong in one or the other?Sadads (talk) 14:06, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

You might also clarify the issue in the AWB program so that instead of referring people to your talk page when they disagree, the edit-explanation tag refers them to the book's talk page, where the project assessments are. I bet a lot of folks don't think to check the project assessments, and hence they come to you first instead of re-examining the page in question. Best, Aristophanes68 (talk) 15:03, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

That is probably a good idea, will see if I can figure out the code for that, Sadads (talk) 15:22, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Add me to the list of editors who have questions about your assessments. On the talk page of the article 'A Conspiracy of Paper', I removed the 'stub' assessment after importing the wikiproject novel template and completing as much of it as possible. You came back through and again assessed it as a stub. I didn't give the article a new assessment myself because I haven't done that before and wasn't sure I completely understand the process. I have, however, seen the article class assessment criteria. Based only on those criteria, I would rate 'A Conspiracy of Paper' several levels above 'stub'. What criteria do you use? WCCasey (talk) 05:51, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

The Medusa Touch

Hello -- You have twice placed The Medusa Touch in the category "American thriller novels". In fact it is a British novel, written by the English author Peter Van Greenaway and originally published by the British firm Gollancz. PhilipC (talk) 17:42, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Why does the infobox say United States then?Sadads (talk) 17:44, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Ah-ha. Didn't see that. I've changed it now. PhilipC (talk) 17:48, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Yay!!!! Another mistake fixed!Sadads (talk) 17:51, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Wonderland books

I find your edits to be annoying. Why do you think that "British Fantasy novel" is better than "Fantasy novel"? An author may be British or American or whatnot. A book might be set in Britain or on Mars. Or a publisher might be in one country or another.

And I find the orphan tag to be irritating too. What's wrong with two links to a page? -- Evertype·✆

See discussion at Wikipedia talk:Novels, about the only thing we can agree on right now is that date and nationality of the work are the only thing that can be accurately determined. Genre is largely arbitrary and has serious repercussion in Genre theory, but in general it is more important that the origination of the work be identified.

For the orphan tag, I am adding those now and in several months, after I finish up several of the major tasks I am working on right now, I will start making Navboxes for authors of novels that are orphans. That way we can increase traffic to these articles, which will in turn increase accuracy and breadth of the articles. I am sorry that I annoyed you, Sadads (talk) 00:01, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

What does "origination of a work" mean? that it was written in a country? That it was published in a country? That it was written by a citizen of a country? That it is about a country? What is "the nationality of a work" and how is this determined?

All the orphan tag says is "this article is crappy because many other articles do not link to it". So what? Maybe there aren't more than two relevant articles. What's wrong with that? Did you read the article Alice's Adventures in Wonderland retold in words of one syllable? Or did you just tag it? There is enough tagging and navbox bloat on the Wikipedia already. And if you did read it, please, tell me what else should link to it. -- Evertype·✆ 14:48, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

There should be a navbox at the bottom of the page that links to all "Wonderland" books, reductions, and other media related to Lewis Carrolls world, which includes this article. This should be on every other "Wonderland" related media page and that would increase crossover traffic and linkage for all of them!Sadads (talk) 14:51, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Thre is an Alice-in-Wonderland template. Do you mean that? -- Evertype·✆ 14:55, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Yep, I like the second one you proposed, Sadads (talk) 14:58, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

No one commented on that. If you support it, please discuss there. -- Evertype·✆ 15:02, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

I did I suggest that you just Be bold and see if anyone responds, I doubt anyone will, and it's in the best interest of the Articles. I would also make sure that all the new additions have the navbox at the bottom of the page, Sadads (talk) 15:04, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

 Done -- Evertype·✆ 14:12, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Earthsea

Yes, it's technically correct to tag 'The Farthest Shore as an American fantasy novel: Le Guin is American. But taking off "fantasy novels" seems unhelpful: from the viewpoint of most readers, "fantasy novels" is more relevant than her nationality. (That's even aside from Le Guin having identified herself specifically as a Western American writer; her sense of place has, I think, more to do with that coast than with national borders.) I have no problem with it having both tags, but if it can have only one, I'm going to revert to the more general unless there's something important I'm overlooking here.Vicki Rosenzweig (talk) 00:54, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Redundant sorting by nationality

On August 15 you added the category "American novels" to three Nero Wolfe books — The Golden Spiders, Too Many Cooks and Where There's a Will — written by Rex Stout. These, along with the other Nero Wolfe novels, have already been subcategorized as American novels via Category:Nero Wolfe novels by Rex Stout and the Category:Novels by Rex Stout to which it belongs. Please refrain from adding this redundant category to the other Stout books. — WFinch (talk) 01:25, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

We are currently trying to categorize American novels by as many variables as possible, please see this discussion at WikiProject Novels, Sadads (talk) 01:35, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

The Whiskey Rebels

I recently spent some time expanding this article, using the Wikiproject: Novels template as a guide. I didn't use all of the sections in the template; some didn't seem appropriate for this novel. When I finished, I removed the stub tag. Then today I saw that you replaced the tag, using AWB. I don't know what criteria AWB uses, but it apparently didn't notice the recent work. Placing a tag is not a big deal, but I would caution you against doing wholesale edits with AWB. It doesn't seem very discriminating. WCCasey (talk) 01:54, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

I reassessed it per WP:Novels assessment. I was using the category created by the Assessment, sorry about that, Sadads (talk) 01:56, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Heat or light?

Hi, please check that you are not adding more heat than light by your editing. I'm out of this - only came across it because one article on my watch list was inappropriately tagged. As I understand it you are copying information from an inaccurate list onto articles (via a stub tag) so as to make other editors tell you if the original list is wrong. That's somewhat pushy, imo. Maybe just my opinion, but - perhaps take a short time to time to relax and think? Friendly regards as ever, Springnuts (talk) 12:08, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

I have stopped with the stub-based on other's suggestions, Sadads (talk) 12:11, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

John Jervis

Now worries. I hate it when real life gets in the way! I'm not sure I understand the review process. I'm just a naval history nerd that likes to bore people. I'll let other people do all the technical stuff. Thanks, Corneredmouse (talk) 13:24, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I've added it to the list. Corneredmouse (talk) 14:09, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

The Trigger - British/American?

Hi there - you recently sorted The Trigger (which somehow happened to be on my watchlist :o) into category "British novels" instead of the more ambiguous "English-language novels". I'm not entirely sure which way it goes, because certainly Clarke is British, but the co-author Kube-McDowell seems to be an American. Thoughts? Thanks :] Icy // ♫ 13:51, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

I would put it in both, English-language novels is just a little too ambiguous, Sadads (talk) 13:53, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

(Wow, that was quick!) Sounds fine, thanks for your help. Icy // ♫ 13:55, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Yep, no problem, Sadads (talk) 13:56, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Move the discussions?

Sadads, I'd suggest that some of the queries to your talkpage be directed to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels so that multiple people can chime in with the spirit of attempting to achieve consensus regarding the recategorization of all novel pages that you've initiated. Although the page has very few viewers, this is a good opportunity to make others aware of the page and of WP:WikiProject Novels. Thanks. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 15:04, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Do you have a suggestion?Sadads (talk) 15:05, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

As per the sentences above. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 15:10, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Link Updates

Thanks for updating the links on Family and MWR Command. I was wondering if your AWB bot accomplished all of those changes. If so... HOW CAN I DO THAT? I'm not familiar with bots. --Dysonej (talk) 17:33, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

It's not actually a bot, I have to manually screen each edit and make some changes. I encountered your page because it had some old urls related to the United States Army Center of Military History. I make changes manually and clean up some parts of the page automatically, like I did with those links. You need a little bit of experience and then permission to use the tool, Sadads (talk)

I see. Thanks much. --Dysonej (talk) 18:33, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Meetup/DC 11

Thanks for the talk page note about Wikipedia:Meetup/DC 11. Getting me on short notice can be a bit challenging by any mode of contact, especially recently when I have been travelling a lot. As for public policy, not highly interested in that area but the Smithsonian stuff is perhaps more promising. If I ever get around to it, and stop being out of town all the time, I'll probably try to get to know some of the people at Smithsonian Botany better (it is entirely possible that going to Botanical Society of Washington meetings will be the most effective tack). Kingdon (talk) 02:23, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the update

I assume you don't mean the userbox policy poll! –SJ+ 09:21, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Fly by Night categorisation

You recently made an edit to Fly by Night which I'm not sure about. I've added a note on the talk page there, if you'd like to comment. me_and (talk) 10:33, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

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GLAMS/SI Workshop

Hi, Sadads, I learned of the GLAMS/SI initiative a little late to get into the first workshop (August 19). Please alert me to the next one. Thanks! Taoboy49 (talk) 13:29, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Certainly, have you gotten in contact with Effie? Sadads (talk) 13:40, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I have been in contact with Effie. She told me the workshop was full and to follow the GLAMS/SI page to learn about upcoming workshops. I added my name to the users page, which got your response. I'm something of a neophyte at this and find this mode of communication a bit strange. Taoboy49 (talk) 15:06, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Haha, Wikipedia is very bizarre and unique, I have never encountered an experience like it. The links I gave you at the top of your talk (discussion) page may be useful, also, I will definitely be communicating about a second workshop soon (hopefully in the next week when we schedule a space) and I think Effie is already pulling together a list of potential participants. Also, I invite you to explore and edit. Wikipedia is a encyclopedia for anyone to edit, so just Be Bold and because this is a wiki, someone can always undo/change what you did. I am watching (with Special:Watchlist ) your user talk/discussion page, so if you make any edits that send up red flags for other Users, when they communicate with you, I can respond/explain why that event happened and try to help you along. And like I said any questions/thoughts I can respond to as well, Sadads (talk) 15:18, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Task force parameter on Milhist banner

Hi, Sadads, thanks for your recent work assessing articles for the Milhist project. I appreciate your help. Can I ask a favour, though? When you add the US task force to articles please make sure that the mark up coding is exactly right (it should be "|US=yes" or "|US=y", rather than "|us = yes"). For some reason the coding for task forces is case sensitive, so some of the task forces you've added haven't displayed correctly and hence the article has remained in the category of articles without a task force. For an example of how I've changed one, please see this diff: [3]. Anyway, thanks very much with your help adding the task forces. Its a pretty boring job, I know. Cheers. AustralianRupert (talk) 09:27, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about that, I actually just noticed that on my watchlist. That is so bizarre, maybe we should raise something on the project or banner talkpage? Sadads (talk) 11:00, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Its no dramas. Yes, I think this would be a good idea. I will do this now. Cheers. AustralianRupert (talk) 11:55, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Linkypedia

I noticed your comment about leakypedia and wondered if you were aware of Special:LinkSearch? As you can see we can already find out how many links to amazon.com we have. Smartse (talk) 19:57, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

But you can't find out which page has the most links to Amazon, such as List of Care Bears books which has 84, Sadads (talk) 22:31, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

The Abysianian (sp?)

See you tried to list this for Proposed Deletion, which has been removed. I'm quite happy to send it to AfD for you if you can give a better idea of why it is not notable (books are not my specialty). Buckshot06 (talk) 09:32, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Tutankhamun and the Golden Age of the Pharaohs

I don't see why this would merit deletion. It needs references, but the exhibition itself seems notable enough to me. bd2412 T 13:48, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

It's not notable, nor does it display much to prove notability, I would delete it per WP:EFFECT, Sadads (talk) 13:49, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Also their is nothing in the way of sourcing that proves notability. The sources I found that would support notability, such as stuff in the Google news search is all about objects, not the exhibit. Sadads (talk) 13:58, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

The article indicates that this exhibition is the first time in a quarter century that Tutankhamun artifacts are part of a traveling exhibition. If this can be substantiated, I would keep it, or at merge it with The Treasures of Tutankhamun as a seed for a more substantial article on exhibitions of the Tutankhamun artifacts. bd2412 T 14:04, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Tutankhamun Exhibition a better example? That doesn't return much in the way of coverage, Sadads (talk) 14:06, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

I'd merge them all together (although the last one is almost a footnote, since that exhibition contains only replicas). bd2412 T 14:34, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Doctor Who serial pages

Re this edit - the page could be considered to fall within WikiProject Novels, because (in common with all bar three of the 150+ Doctor Who serials broadcast between 1963 and 1989) the TV story was used as the basis for a novel, see The Romans (Doctor Who)#In print. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:43, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Phule's Company

Your move request has been granted - Phule's Company is now in article namespace. I'll leave it up to you whether or not you want to nominate the resulting redirect in your userspace for speedy deletion. SchuminWeb (Talk) 23:09, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks much. So good news, JMU libraries is supporting me in starting a Wikipedia related organization/workshop series! Are you interested in coming down sometime in the semester and helping?Sadads (talk) 00:28, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Sounds interesting. What would helping involve? SchuminWeb (Talk) 00:31, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Helping me give a presentation, or an extra set of hands to help mentor people in their first Wikipedia editing experience. Haven't quite worked that out yet, Sadads (talk) 00:33, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Indeed, let me know what you ultimately come up with. One thing worth noting - public speaking scares me to death (see [4] about public speaking my final semester at JMU), and so I'd rather not do it, but I'd certainly love to help show people the ropes, what constitutes a reliable source, and how the interface works. SchuminWeb (Talk) 00:44, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Wiki-Conference New York

I see you are signed up to attend? is that definite? The Smithsonian cooperation is pretty recent, but perhaps would still be worth a 5 minute lightning talk? Cheers. --Aude (talk) 17:39, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I can't go, unfortunately. If you get a chance that would be awesome, I am moving into my dorm at College that weekend, Sadads (talk) 17:41, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Too bad you can't come. :( I put Smithsonian / GLAM up as an open-space session. Also put up discussion about chapters. (my opinion is that we would be stronger as regional Northeast chapter, but open to doing separate city chapters or whatever the consensus is; worth discussion) --Aude (talk) 17:19, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, unfortunately, the timing is just bad, I would support any more organization in the area as we can muster. I think volunteer organization is one of the biggest weaknesses of Wikimedia efforts on the east coast, Sadads (talk) 17:46, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Deprod of Scared Stiff: Tales of Sex and Death

Hello. Just a note to let you know that I deprodded this. I found some coverage of the book that I have detailed on the article's talk page, which I feel is enough to establish notability or at least to merit discussion at AFD should you still wish to pursue deletion. Thanks.--Michig (talk) 09:25, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Welcoming people to wikiproject novels

I'm wondering if it would be useful just to give a few short guidelines when you welcome people. I have just, sadly, had to revert someone you recently welcomed who added the description from the book jacket to Dust of Dreams, which keeps getting well-meaning people copying material from Amazon, etc and adding it. Dougweller (talk) 16:20, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Certainly, unfortunately it is rare that we get new members, and we aren't very active right now. I think we need to put more energy into finding members and making the ones we have more active, than on a greeting info, such as a welcome template for Novels or people writing about fiction. I think many of these things are better taken care of on a case by case basis. Sadads (talk) 19:23, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Although I think you are basically right, if I keep removing the copyvio from this editor he's going to get discouraged perhaps. Dougweller (talk) 19:49, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Blastus

This is the worst AfD nomination I've seen in months. Bearian (talk) 02:03, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Then you have not seen any Bold steps to improve the encyclopedia recently, Sadads (talk) 02:33, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Proper form for asking about things on coordinators' talkpages

Well displayed at [[5]] - note, yes, this is a joke! Buckshot06 (talk) 02:44, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Haha, Nice to see I am not the only one awed by WPMILHIST's hierarchy, Sadads (talk) 02:49, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Miscellaneous shoulder sleeve insignia of the United States Army

Hi. You PRODded this, and it was deleted. Undeletion has now been requested at WP:REFUND, so per WP:DEL#Proposed deletion I have restored it, and now notify you in case you wish to take it to AfD. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 13:26, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Sadads (talk) 13:51, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

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GA feedback

Sorry about not getting to you sooner, but my Internet (and phone) suddenly died on me. Anyways, thank you, I appreciate your effort in reviewing the article. I actually was quite impressed with your in-depth-ness, and didn't mind the nit-pickiness. The only thing was that you may want to consider organizing the comments using 3rd and 4th level headers rather than using the semicolon to create headers, as I found it a bit tedious to scroll to the top of the section to reply to a comment. Thanks again! Brambleclawx 20:20, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Noted for next time, Sadads (talk) 20:21, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Just a quick note: when passing, look to see if the page has an {{ArticleHistory}} template. If so, add the pass to there (I did it this time). Also, remember to add the reviewed revision (oldid), the version of the article that was passed as a GA. [6] is the version for the article. Look at the URL, and you'll see 9 digits at the end of it. That's what you need to add to the "oldid=" parameter, whether it be in the articlehistory template or the regular GA template. That way, the article isn't added to the Category:Good articles without an oldid backlog (which I've been trying to help clear from its peak of 208 or so articles). Overall, the review was very thorough, IMHO. Good job :). Airplaneman ✈ 18:21, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Archpoet

Hi Sadads. I just wanted to explain my using the expression "an obvious reference" in the Archpoet article to you who's responsible for going through Wikipedia and changing this for all articles. I take it you don't read the articles before editing them, but seeing the number of edits needed to be done, it's completely understandable.

Now, in the context of the article itself, the "obvious" takes its full meaning when you see it from the perspective of 12th century educated men and women who knew Latin very well and the Bible just as much, and who formed the intended audience of the Archpoet's compositions. Your correction and my explaining made me realize, as I'm writing, that maybe I should have mentioned this and made it clear in the article. So, instead of writing "an obvious reference to the Scripture", and if I really would have wanted to keep the "obvious" expression, "an obvious reference to the Scripture for the educated people of the time" would have been more precise. Could that have saved the "obvious"? I don't know, but I'll modify the article to include this small correction which sheds some needed light.

Also, it's good that you didn't put the OR template, because I would have removed it, since the article contains no "original research" per se: I went through everything myself, reading hundred of pages of various books and scholarly articles so as to make the Archpoet article as complete, neutral and referenced as possible. Using "obvious reference" in an article does not automatically warrant the judgment that the article contains original research; I think it's unfair to judge hundreds or thousands of words solely on two. That's just my two cents. Thanks for taking care.
• H☼ωdΘesI†fl∉∈ ^{KLAT} • 18:47, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, obvious in and of itself forces the author's point of view, as pointed out in the conversation at this conversation at the Village pump, and in many cases it was used in the context of pop culture sections which tend to be stock full of OR. I was careful only to add the OR templates if the line was unreferenced (which you article clearly was not). I only added inline OR templates not full article OR templates, sorry if that confused you. Their were only about 300 cases of this, and almost every one that I caught had POV pushing, Sadads (talk) 19:58, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Well, that significantly clarifies the picture! Please note that my comment was written after reading the said conversation, which is precisely why I took the trouble of justifying this specific use of "obvious" since it seemed to diverge from what the conversation was directly aiming at. Anyway, sorry for my confusion and thanks for the supplementary explanation.
• H☼ωdΘesI†fl∉∈ ^{KLAT} • 20:25, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Editing Collisions

Hi, Sadads. It looks like 4 people were simultaneously working on the Huffstickler article (including you). Felicia222, the main author of the article was very frustrated. She saw many of her references disappear when ClamDip commented them out. Apparently, she doesn't know about that trick, and she's already doing a lot of work figuring out how to do refs in WP. She reverted the article and started over again fixing the References. I noticed you also commented out her unused references. I pointed out the method and rationale for "commenting out" on the Huffstickler Facebook page, hoping she figures out what was happening. We both struggled to learn Wikipedia to get the article past the stub stage last fall. Felicia222 doesn't have a User Page, and I don't have any other contact info for her outside of Facebook at the moment. She says (on FB) that she's going to do edits offline and then upload them, which might be a little less stressful for her.

Question: is there a way to tell that more than one person is working on an article at the same time?Taoboy49 (talk) 19:26, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I don't know of any way to see if someone else is editing. However, if you are working with a team, you might wish to {[tl|In use}} at the top of the page,to warn people that you are editing, that way they can try to avoid edit conflicts, Sadads (talk) 20:05, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Danke Schön

Just wanted to say thanks for tweaking that link and adding the extra category on Ten Thousand a-Year. I don't know many specific categories - in fact, when I threw the one pointing to 'Novels' in there, it was a complete shot in the dark as to whether it even existed (I figured it was that or 'Books'). The only other concern I had in creating the article was the formatting of capital letters in the title. Frankly, I don't much care for it as is, but it's a proper name and seemed to be how most of the references I could find referred to it, so...it is what it is.
Anyhow, I just wanted to say thanks for adding a little polish to an otherwise obscure subject.
--K10wnsta (talk) 02:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Bitte, any time you need anything, feel free to ask. I am doing a lot of work with Novel categorization, hopefully making novels more standardized and easier to access through cats, Sadads (talk) 03:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Please explain this edit to Tell Me (Diddy song)

You tagged a description of the temporal sequence of this song as WP:OR [7]. Save for the difference in media, this description is no different than any other even-handed summary of a cited text. Is it somehow objectively unverifiable with respect to the (implicitly) cited text, that is, the song itself? That is after all the sine qua non of academic citation. Yappy2bhere (talk) 19:36, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Part of the decision made at this conversation at the Village pump, if you have more questions, feel free to ask here,Sadads (talk) 19:38, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, not sure how punching your fellow editors contributes to an encyclopedia. I think what you wanted to was not to tag it as WP:OR, but to add an explicit reference to the track with a time of 0:00 as specified in the article. Yappy2bhere (talk) 19:45, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Looking at your article again, it seems my screening wasn't as good as it should have been. I am betting that your case is a rare one though, many of these statements of "Obvious" reference were in pop culture sections (which are probably OR work anyway). Sorry bout that, Sadads (talk) 19:56, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

No worries. I excised the "obvious" aside - not really necessary to the description. Yappy2bhere (talk) 21:16, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Re: Spybuck

Anything in particular you want help with? I'm not familiar with the subject :P Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 19:55, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

i added the SI external link; i trust that is a good one. Accotink2 talk 20:14, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

It's appropriate, Sadads (talk) 20:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

I made a few minor changes to the article and its talk page but I dont know the subject that well. --Kumioko (talk) 23:15, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks much, thought you were one of the people that does lots of biographies, so I thought you might want to give it a gander.Sadads (talk) 23:16, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Review for 'The Tale of the Flopsy Bunnies

Thank you for reviewing the article. I've completed the revisions per the review. Susanne2009NYC (talk) 21:37, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Not quite done, there will be more in a day or so. I have a few things I need to take care of for school, and of course, I will review all the new changes a couple more times in context to make sure it has done we wanted it to do, Sadads (talk) 23:13, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Very good! I'll check back! Susanne2009NYC (talk) 23:16, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Phule's Company

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations! - Dravecky (talk) 00:20, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the help, Sadads (talk) 01:11, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Angela's Ashes

Hi Sadads. I'm not sure that Angela's Ashes should have the novels project banner. Angela's Ashes is a memoir, not a novel. I haven't taken the banner down...I wanted to check with you first. Thanks. Susfele (talk) 04:06, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Yep, you are right, it was in a novels category, so I automatically added it, I recategorized. Sadads (talk) 04:09, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Ah ha! Exact same problem on The Egg and I. I'll take care of it. And bravo for all the work you are doing for WP:Novels. Susfele (talk) 04:21, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Orphan tag

I recommend not putting the orphan tag on articles unless there are no articles at all that link to it. In the case of many of the Medal of Honor recipients its true that in many cases there are few articles but they all have at least a couple and therefore adding the orphan tag in my opinion just clutters up the article. --Kumioko (talk) 12:06, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

I think of it in this way, if their are a bunch of orphaned articles in a cluster, then it is a good reason to create a navbox. If you notice that the Medal of Honor recipients from one war are orphaned, then create a navbox and at the very least, that can interlink amongst each other and share their traffic. Sadads (talk) 13:07, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Umm, navboxs are good for certain things and could be useful for some recipients but typically the articles are associated by the lists of recipients and by categories. Im not sure if adding Navboxs would gain us much other than adding some length to some articles that might be stubby for a long time otherwise due to lack of references. --Kumioko (talk) 19:37, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Jason Steed AFD

I notice you say in the AFD for this article "not to mention a nomination for a Indy book award!" Are you confusing indie with Indy (As in the Independent newspaper?) --Cameron Scott (talk) 20:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about that, Sadads (talk) 20:46, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

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Thanks for the encouragement :) Elen of the Roads (talk) 00:14, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

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Hi, I put Tunnels (novel) up for GA, but with school, if many problems are brought up in the review I won't be able to reply very quickly. Could you watch it an help me fix up any problems found? I understand you're also busy, but any help would be great. Thanks! Derild4921☼ 23:39, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Sure. I am watching the page and the review page, and I will see how much I can commit when the review comes around. At the very least, I can deal with basic inquiries/style things, Sadads (talk) 01:05, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I appreciate the help :). Derild4921☼ 01:25, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

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I'm hoping to take Into the Wild (Warriors) up to FA class. I've added a Style and writing section, but I'm unsure of what to do next. I'm thinking of adding a Genre section if I can find any sources. I'll ask for a copyedit at the Guild, but besides that I have no idea how to proceed. Do you have any advice? Thank you. Derild4921☼ 23:51, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

I would suggest consulting User:Awadewit on what she would suggest. I will review it line by line, but she has experience getting articles through FA (she is one of the top FA contributers and almost exclusively does literature). Sadads (talk) 00:03, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

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Mentoring students in Class

Sadads, would you be willing to serve as a mentor for some of our students?--Ck07 (talk) 15:39, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Certainly, that is what I am here for. I will put my name on the project page, Sadads (talk) 18:48, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!--Ck07 (talk) 12:35, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

10th Anniversary

Why'd you remove the prod? You have to give a reason. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 16:04, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

The novel is by a notable author in a notable series, therefore the novel is notable. Merged into a series page, probably, should it have references definitely. Because it is upcoming, it should be deleting, no. Sadads (talk) 18:45, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Then why didn't you say that either a.) in the edit summary or b.) on the talk page? Also, WP:CRYSTAL. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 18:50, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Thought I did in the summary, sorry. It was late last night right, wasn't it? It should at least hit AFD because there is enough weight on both sides of the argument. We often do have upcoming novels, especially if they are anticipated by fans and press, therefore gets some coverage. Sadads (talk) 18:53, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for The Bravo

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Ebabony initially did not use the name of the person he was going after, then he addressed a comment to you which I thought was about you. I cannot apologise sufficiently. I think he's wildly over, and am a little worried because he's also disputing with Cmguy777 as to whether the article is POV or not.--Elen of the Roads (talk) 19:20, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

No problem. Not offended in the least, just wanted to make sure future readers didn't misunderstand what was going on, Sadads (talk) 19:21, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

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I did some work, it certainly looks better now. NativeForeigner ^Talk/_Contribs 01:50, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Re your comments

Per your "@NickCT It's about the same thing as is happening in #3" in Talk:Ahmed_Yassin; I wanted to follow up with you, just to get a better sense of your thoughts.

I strikes me that Yassin looks quite sickly in image 1. His left hand looks unaturally swollen, and his eyes seem crossed. He's also wearing somekind of odd blanket. While he still looks like an invalid in #3, he appears somewhat more stately.

Do you think I'm off-base here? Can you see what I'm talking about?

Apologies for pressing this point, I'm just curious that others aren't seeing what seems obvious to me.

Apologies to for posting to your talk page, but the discussion on Talk:Ahmed Yassin seems to have taken a life of its own. NickCT (talk) 14:27, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Well both 1 and 3 show Yassin with a swollen hand and his eyes slightly askew, but 1 has the obvious advantage of being a little higher res. Also, I think in some ways it appeases those who want him to look a little more elderly wihtout giving him that rediculous look that he has in the current photo. I have no real qualms either way actually, Sadads (talk) 19:41, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... Well I'm surprised you don't think 1 is little ridiculous. But I respect the opinion and thank you for sharing it. NickCT (talk) 20:51, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Are you still at the CMH

I just saw you on and I was wondering if you were still at the CMH? Also, is there another SI workgroup meeting planned yet? --Kumioko (talk) 17:53, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

No, though I may be back in the winter or next summer and I am still keeping up contacts. And currently, No, though Taoboy49 is talking about doing some more work, and he said that their a couple of archivists getting ready to add some content, so we will be needed for that. I need to probe for the possible October 22 DC meetup and see if that is still going through and maybe we can have a get together/discussion before that. Sadads (talk) 19:39, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Ok thanks please let me know. --Kumioko (talk) 19:42, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

IR 393 tutor Lehigh University

Hello Sadads

I am IR393harrisonkatz. I was hoping you would please be my wikipedia mentor.

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by IR393harrisonkatz (talk • contribs) 23:54, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Sure thing. First bit of advice. Whenever you make comments on Wikipedia discussion pages, make sure you sign your username and time using the code ~~~~.

I notice your interest was in subjects related to the Soviet war in Afghanistan. Any part of the topic you are interested in, in particular? We can start thinking about identifying articles or Encyclopedic topics that you would like to work with. Cheers and I look forward to working with you on this project, Sadads (talk) 00:07, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Sadads-I was wondering if you would also be interested in being my Wikipedia Mentor. Thank you! IR393ldc211 (talk) 12:23, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Certainly, send me a a user e-mail if you want some more of my contact information, Sadads (talk) 12:25, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Novels assessment: comment requested

Hi Sadads, I wonder if you could step in on the discussion going on here. Someone from the novels project should comment, I think. I don't know enough about assessments to know how to address the changes. Best wishes Spanglej (talk) 11:20, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Felix Net and Nika and the Gang of Invisible People

Sadads, I'm confused about your AfD vote on the above page. You say you agree (which would be a vote of delete), but then say to merge. Please clarify for poor confused me. D O N D E  groovily Talk to me 00:02, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for The Chainbearer

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West Branch (journal)

Hi, the above article was deleted after AfD but immediately re-created. Apparently it is pretty different from that version (see discussion here), so G4 is not possible. As you were invoilved in that AfD, I thought I should notify you. --Crusio (talk) 14:06, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

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Any Human Heart , no longer a stub!

Hi Sadads,

I hope you are well. I noticed you tagged Any Human Heart as a stub two months ago, since then I've written an extensive article, now nominated for GA Review. Since you've edited the article and previously provided many useful comments on another novel article, I was wondering if you had any suggestions this time. Best wishes, --Ktlynch (talk) 09:33, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Certainly, I have a fair bit of school work, but I will try to get a review in by the end of the week, Sadads (talk) 12:42, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Please don't feel obliged to do the full GA review, comments in passing would be helpful. I'm pretty much the only editor working the page, so the groupthink has started to set in... Good luck with your academics. Best, --Ktlynch (talk) 16:31, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

A late thank you, some useful comments. Please let me know if you need the favour returned. Best, --Ktlynch (talk) 10:45, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi, SAdads, thank you for welcoming me. Congratulatios for that statement. Very reasonable! Chers, Nevinho (talk) 18:21, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

And if you need anything ever, feel free to contact me. Sadads (talk) 23:51, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

What do you think?

Do you think Into the Wild (Warriors) is ready for FA? Activity seems to have stopped around there. Derild4921☼ 00:43, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

How does one re-order the sections of a page?

Thanks.--Ck07 (talk) 15:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Sadads, I answered on his talk page.--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 16:01, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Access?

Any chance you know how to find out what they were saying on Into the Wild from this source? Thanks . Derild4921☼ 21:35, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Found this link and this link using google, looking in a couple other places. It might be a publisher's blurb or a library journals blurb, which would explain why it is showing up in multiple places. Sadads (talk) 23:51, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Ah thanks, thought it was a review at first. Derild4921☼ 01:57, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar

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		for organization and presentation at WP:GLAM/SI Accotink2 talk 03:51, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

belated but well deserved. Accotink2 talk 03:51, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Why thank you. I am looking to doing something more in the future with them. According to Effie, several other of the people at the workshop are interested in doing more content development. We will see where that goes, and I am particularly greatful for the help and contributions from your end as well, Sadads (talk) 05:28, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

WP Smithsonian in the Signpost

"WikiProject Report" would like to focus on WikiProject Smithsonian Institution for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Also, if you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. -Mabeenot (talk) 23:50, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

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Update

Responded to your review, at Talk:The Road to Total Freedom/GA1. Thanks very much, for the helpful suggestions. ;) Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 17:47, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Updated, at the subpage. -- Cirt (talk) 04:10, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks very much for the helpful copyedits. Care to have another assessment of GA status? ;) -- Cirt (talk) 20:20, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I have been really busy. Would you mind if I put it off until the beginning of next week?Sadads (talk) 21:26, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Sure thing. No worries, -- Cirt (talk) 21:28, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! ;) -- Cirt (talk) 09:16, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry it took so long. Things pilled up real quick, Sadads (talk) 16:05, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK hook

Your Heidenmauer nom has issues. — Rlevse • Talk • 21:11, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Hello Alex

Dear Alex,

My name is Elliot Goldstein and I am an undergrad student in the UC Berkeley "Politics of Piracy" DeCal (http://www.decal.org/). Our class is exploring copyright laws, fairuse laws, copyleft, to name a few. I'm in the copyleft group, of which I will be updating one article on http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sega_Enterprises,_Ltd._v._Accolade,_Inc.&action=edit&redlink=1.

I'm very new to the world of wikipedia so I thank you for your mentorship.

Sincerely, Elliot Goldstein —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goldstein2020 (talk • contribs) 21:26, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Ahh!, Thankyou ... and some uncalled for advice for SI

Thanks for your comment and reply, its appreciated. Don't worry I don't feel alone and rejected. (Aaah) However I do feel "adopted" by the British Museum project. The interview contribution not intended as a criticism but I hope a helpful observation. As I look at the SI project (and I can only judge it from your project pages without an air ticket) it is obvious that it has not been the success you hoped .... but I'm not sure what success you have had. I only did a "drive by" contribution. Have there been others that were not so cheeky as to add their hit rate figures to your front page. You did not have "Liam" but you have had lots of articles created which you don't know about (I think/estimate) and the SI (amd the LOC) have encouraged many due to their sign up with Flickr. The US rules on copyright have not been confused as they have been in the UK and you have lots of info in the public domain. Does the SI project know about this? I thought about ignoring the request for an interview as my involvement has been trivial....(but its Kalulu who appears on your front page) I think the SI project need to learn from the BM project .... and I think you are focussing too much on what hasn't happened and not on what you can get off the BM. e.g. steal their web structure - don't mention "Apollo 11" as top hit unless you did something to make that true. Do publish a list of what has been achieved recently. rant over! Cheers Victuallers (talk) 13:05, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

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Secure Federal File Sharing Act and Mentorship

Greetings Sadads,

I am currently involved in the Politics of Piracy course at the University of California, Berkeley. I am of Junior standing, majoring in History with an emphasis on Twentieth Century Warfare. Out of all the potential mentors for our Public Policy course I chose you (if you approve that is) as it seems like we have much in common based on your description, and I think we will get along and work together well. The article I am interested in expanding (or starting actually) is the Secure Federal File Sharing Act, as I think it pertains to how the United States government will address and interact with file sharing protocol in the future. The article has not yet been created, and I hope by the end of this year it will have evolved into at least a stub. The reference to this act can be found here. What do you think?

Logan 19:50, 11 October 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elhugheszete (talk • contribs)

I would be glad to help. We can definitely write a good start class from the sources I have found in a google search, but remember, most of the information, except for the summary of the bill, needs to be from reliable secondary sources (see WP:Secondary sources). Make sure that their is a breadth of information available beyond a few news articles (though a start is certainly doable with a couple news articles). Lets start a draft in a new user subpage and do a survey of sources to make sure you are happy with enough information (for information on user subpages see WP:Subpages). I bet we could flesh it out to at least B class by the end of the semester, which may require a little more digging than just internet searches. I will let you do the research and writing, and I can help with formatting, grammar and style, and other general issues.Sadads (talk) 02:53, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

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Greetings again from Aotearoa New Zealand

Just saw your interview on the Signpost. Hope all is gonig well at CMH. How much longer are you there? Kind regards Buckshot06 (talk) 09:14, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

I am back at school, so am not there right now. I may be going back for a couple weeks in December, Sadads (talk) 16:07, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Smithsonian Signpost interview

-->points Sadads at Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2010-10-11/WikiProject report. :-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 20:39, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Agnes Grey

Hello, your nomination of Agnes Grey at DYK was reviewed and an ALT provided. I also moved the nom under 14 Oct; it was accidentally placed under Oct 8. The DYK nomination page just recently reversed from newest down the oldest to oldest down to newest.--NortyNort (Holla) 08:53, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

The King of Torts

I noticed that The King of Torts has been hit with a PROD tag. WP:BK is outside of my realm, but this was a critically well-received John Grisham novel, and it debuted #1 on the New York Times bestsellers list. Is that not enough? bd2412 T 00:03, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

I will remove the prod. Generally I suggest that such articles go through AFD and then get merged into the author's or series' page if there are not enough sources to legitimately cover it in a full article, Sadads (talk) 00:14, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of Bite Me (novel) for deletion

A discussion has begun about whether the article Bite Me (novel), which you created or to which you contributed, should be deleted. While contributions are welcome, an article may be deleted if it is inconsistent with Wikipedia policies and guidelines for inclusion, explained in the deletion policy.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bite Me (novel) until a consensus is reached, and you are welcome to contribute to the discussion.

You may edit the article during the discussion, including to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article.Shsilver (talk) 12:37, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

The Collectors AfD

You recently voted in an AfD on The Collectors. I have since improved the article, adding in references and reviews. In light of these changes, could you please update your wording in the AfD? Silverseren^C 17:25, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Liefting book prods / afds

• Have you been through all already? I see you reviewing many of them. A few editors are trying to assess what needs more work at Wikipedia_talk:Article_Rescue_Squadron#Got_a_job_for_you_guys. cheers.--Milowent • ^talkblp-r 20:25, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

I went through his edit history a good ways and tried to catch the prods, but I wasn't being systematic per se. I scanned at least 200-250 edits back on him. Didn't realize how many there would be until I was a good ways in. Because he used Twinkle it's pretty easy to tell which ones he was prodding. I will recheck on the past 250 edits if someone will do before then. Sadads (talk) 20:33, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

How's your Online Ambassador experience going so far?

Hi Sadads/Archive August-November 2010,

We're starting to get into the busy part of the semester for Online Ambassadors, and we want to check in and see how you're doing, what your opinions about where we are now, and any feedback you may have.

Please answer these questions either on my talk page or send them to me by email.

1. How many mentees are you currently working with?

2. Have you reached out to students who don't have mentors yet? If not, would you be willing to?

3. What do you think of the content of messages on the Google Group?

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5. Do you participate on the Google Group much? If not, what would make you participate more?

6. Are there any problems you've experienced so far?

7. Is there anything else Sage or the rest of the Public Policy Initiative team could do to make your experience as an Online Ambassador better?

8. Are you okay sharing your username with your answers to our Public Policy Initiative team, or would you prefer to remain anonymous?

Thanks for your feedback! --Ldavis (Public Policy) (talk) 19:31, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Ruth Hall

Hi Sadads, A quick question - I haven't hunted for an answer to this, but why are all the 'Women's writers' mentees working to date only the Ruth Hall article? Am I missing something (as usual). Best wishes Span (talk) 04:49, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

I am not exactly sure why, but I think the professor is assigning them to finding literary criticism as they read texts in class, and then each student is adding some from their criticism. Sadads (talk) 06:36, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Span (talk) 06:41, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

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DYK for Agnes Grey

The DYK project (nominate) 06:02, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Agnes Grey

The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK

I thought you guys could nt do sarcasm? (You must be studying English) Made me smile! Victuallers (talk) 11:32, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Senlis, Onis

Hi, I am part of the WikiProject Public Policy and you recently reviewed my article on Senlis Oise. I have a question regarding why the table of contents appears twice on my page. I am currently working on it and was wondering if you could review it tomorrow. Also is this the best way to contact you---- user:smj39 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smj39 (talk • contribs) 04:42, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

You don't have to manually write a table of contents, they automatically appear unless you write __NOTOC__ on the page, which forces the TOC off the page. For more information see Help:Section#Table of contents (TOC). As for reviewing the article, do you not have an Online Ambassador? I can help, but I currently have a pretty full load and would suggest picking someone from amongst the individuals at Wikipedia:WikiProject United States Public Policy/Ambassadors who don't have very many mentees to work with, Sadads (talk) 16:45, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Aleutian06 04:43, 4 November 2010 (UTC)== Help with Templates ==

I need a little education on building templates. It is time to Split the article Arkansas Army National Guard I have a plan to break it up into sub articles, but I want to keep them associated in a series. I was looking at another article the History of Berlin, which I believe was split in the past. It has a template that announces that the article is a part of a series and list the other articles in the series. That looks like the type of think I would like to do with this article, but I have never tried to build a template. Any suggestions?Aleutian06 12:30, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Well I kind of took a leap and built a template. Didn't intend to put in on the live side, but apparenly you can't cerate a template in your userspace? Arkansas National Guard Series Take a look and give me some feedback. Thanks.Aleutian06 13:31, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Ok, got it moved back to my user pace User:Damon.cluck/Arkansas National Guard SeriesAleutian06 14:13, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

You will need to put it in Template space when you do the thing (Template:Arkansas National Guard Series]]). Also, I would try not to have too many red links on templates. For an explanation of navboxes and series templates see Wikipedia:Navboxes. Otherwise you have the right concept. I think learning basic templates is more about trying to understand ones that already exist and modifying not really creating whole new ones. Sadads (talk) 16:47, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I got it created and have started the big slip of Arkansas Army National Guard. Aleutian06 04:43, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Cognoscenti (comics)

I have removed the proposed deletion tag you placed on Cognoscenti (comics), as the article was discussed at AfD on 4 October 2008 and closed with no consensus, thereby making it ineligible for prod. Compliance with policy/procedure was the only reason I did this; I have no prejudice against opening another AfD.

Also, when proposing an article for deletion, you only need to add {{subst:proposed deletion|concern=___}} to the top of the page; you do not need to subst the template a second time, as you did here. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 14:46, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Template:Landry

Hi, Sadads. I see that you are the creator of the {{Landry}} navigation box. I recently discovered an unused navbox for all of V.C. Andrews' novels (here), which I have added to the relevant articles. For the Landry series, this means there are now two redundant navboxes on the articles. Since the other template is more comprehensive, I'm wondering if you would be open to having the Landry template deleted in favor of the other one? Let me know what you think. Thanks. --RL0919 (talk) 02:08, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Redirected! Hope that fixes the problem, Sadads (talk) 02:41, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

It does. Thanks! --RL0919 (talk) 03:04, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Need to revert and article

I accidently made some edits to the 39th Infantry Division (United States) I intended to make these changes in my userspace for a lecture I am delivering tomorrow and got confused. Can you revert the article to this version?Aleutian06 04:17, 4 November 2010 (UTC) (cur | prev) 21:52, 3 November 2010 Damon.cluck (talk | contribs) (43,462 bytes) (→Notes: added template) (undo)

Well I think I figured out how to do it with the undo buttonAleutian06 04:41, 4 November 2010 (UTC)