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Administrators' newsletter – January 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2023).
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Featured Article Save Award
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On behalf of the FAR coordinators, thank you, RL0919! Your work on Harriet Tubman has allowed the article to retain its featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. I hereby award you this Featured Article Save Award, or FASA. You may display this FA star upon your userpage. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 16:39, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
Precious anniversary
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Congratulations to the successful saving efforts! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:53, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
How is the outcome of the AFD re-nomination on this article different from that of an AFD nomination on another article? Both don't have input from others, yet the outcome is different. George Ho (talk) 17:56, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- The obvious answer is that two different people closed the discussions, and human judgment can vary. As far as I can see, I would have closed the other discussion the same way I closed this one.
- That said, I would also suggest that opening discussions for these situations may be counterproductive to begin with. The previous AfDs were a decade or more in the past, and much closer to when the subjects appeared on TV. The article creators are blocked for socking. Considering that no one bothered to comment on the AfDs, I strongly suspect that if you had just redirected the articles without opening a discussion about it, probably no one would have objected. Less work for you; no work for AfD participants and closers. --RL0919 (talk) 18:41, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Isn't redirecting a previously-nominated article kinda risky, especially right now? Furthermore, as I feared, any Survivor-fanatic editor would undo the redirecting and then restore the article back to as-is without further ado. I don't wanna take the closed AFD discussion to review yet, but I figured you'll stand by your decision, right? George Ho (talk) 19:12, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Almost forgot: AFD results... and even DRV ones are easier to enforce and more enforceable IMO than WP:IMPLICITCONSENSUS. George Ho (talk) 19:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Your comments make me more comfortable with the choice to close as no consensus, not less. If you are so sure that someone would object to a redirect by you, then putting an admin stamp on a redirect based on a zero-input AfD would be placing a mantle of "enforceability" on a change that doesn't deserve it. --RL0919 (talk) 22:37, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – February 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2024).
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- Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee adopted a new enforcement restriction on January 4, 2024, wherein the Committee may apply the 'Reliable source consensus-required restriction' to specified topic areas.
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You're invited to attend a meetup at the San Diego Central Library on Monday 26 February 2024. Hopefully see you there. RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 11:00, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – March 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2024).
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- Phase I of the 2024 RfA review is now open for participation. Editors are invited to review, comment on, and propose improvements to the requests for adminship process.
- Following an RfC, the inactivity requirement for the removal of the interface administrator right increased from 6 months to 12 months.
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Administrators' newsletter – April 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2024).
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- An RfC is open to convert all current and future community discretionary sanctions to (community designated) contentious topics procedure.
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- The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. (T313405)
Arbitration
- An arbitration case has been opened to look into "the intersection of managing conflict of interest editing with the harassment (outing) policy".
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- Editors are invited to sign up for The Core Contest, an initiative running from April 15 to May 31, which aims to improve vital and other core articles on Wikipedia.
Administrators' newsletter – May 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2024).
Guideline and policy news
- Phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship review has concluded. Several proposals have passed outright and will proceed to implementation, including creating a discussion-only period (3b) and administrator elections (13) on a trial basis. Other successful proposals, such as creating a reminder of civility norms (2), will undergo further refinement in Phase II. Proposals passed on a trial basis will be discussed in Phase II, after their trials conclude. Further details on specific proposals can be found in the full report.
Technical news
- Partial action blocks are now in effect on the English Wikipedia. This means that administrators have the ability to restrict users from certain actions, including uploading files, moving pages and files, creating new pages, and sending thanks. T280531
Arbitration
- The arbitration case Conflict of interest management has been closed.
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- This may be a good time to reach out to potential nominees to ask if they would consider an RfA.
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Administrators' newsletter – June 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2024).
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Guideline and policy news
- Phase II of the 2024 RfA review has commenced to improve and refine the proposals passed in Phase I.
Technical news
- The Nuke feature, which enables administrators to mass delete pages, will now correctly delete pages which were moved to another title. T43351
Arbitration
- The arbitration case Venezuelan politics has been closed.
- The Committee is seeking volunteers for various roles, including access to the conflict of interest VRT queue.
Miscellaneous
- WikiProject Reliability's unsourced statements drive is happening in June 2024 to replace {{citation needed}} tags with references! Sign up here to participate!
91.124.53.23
[edit]Hi, I don't want to go through the hassle of filing a report at ANI and I saw that you were active recently so I wanted to ask you to possibley block the IP 91.124.53.23. If you look at their talk page (and talk page history) they are clearly making personal attacks despite being warned multiple times and they have also threatened to do sockpuppetry. Thanks. GoldRomean (talk) 21:16, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- @GoldRomean: Already reported at AIV and blocked. If they do sock, you can file a request at WP:RFPP. TornadoLGS (talk) 21:18, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- Okay. Thanks for your help (and RL0919 sorry for wasting ur time). GoldRomean (talk) 21:19, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – July 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2024).
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- Local administrators can now add new links to the bottom of the site Tools menu without using JavaScript. Documentation is available on MediaWiki. (T6086)
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- The Community Wishlist is re-opening on 15 July 2024. Read more
Deletion review for Vivian Jenna Wilson
[edit]An editor has asked for a deletion review of Vivian Jenna Wilson. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Rei (talk) 20:05, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- I was surprised in your closure statement that you stated that there were mostly Delete and Redirect "votes" as it looked to me like more editors were arguing for Keep than Delete. Liz Read! Talk! 23:29, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- By my count (not the appellant's), 18 participants preferred redirection, 4 more were open to deletion or redirection, and 6 (including presumably the nominator) preferred deletion. This is easily more than the 17 clear keeps. (Two others did not provide a clear preference; one of those appeared to be arguing against notability, while the other was clearly against redirection but did not indicate an opinion about notability or keep vs. delete.) So just under 38% of the clear positions preferred keeping. --RL0919 (talk) 02:49, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- I just came to remove my comment as I said something similar at the Deletion Review. Liz Read! Talk! 03:19, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – August 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2024).
Technical news
- Global blocks may now target accounts as well as IP's. Administrators may locally unblock when appropriate.
- Users wishing to permanently leave may now request "vanishing" via Special:GlobalVanishRequest. Processed requests will result in the user being renamed, their recovery email being removed, and their account being globally locked.
Arbitration
- The Arbitration Committee appointed the following administrators to the conflict of interest volunteer response team: Bilby, Extraordinary Writ
Atlas Shrugged
[edit]Hi, I do not understand why you keep deleting my input on the Atlas Shrugged page... The libertarians and conservatives site the work as an influence do in fact subscribe to "rational selfishness," the philosophy of the book.... So why delete that fact? 2600:8800:4021:DE00:836:FE33:DAE6:8908 (talk) 19:53, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- You may believe so, but if you want to insert such claims into Wikipedia you should supply reliable secondary sources that have reached this conclusion. And then be prepared to make a case that they are representative of a common viewpoint that that warrants inclusion. So far, you haven't even responded to the Talk page discussion that has been open since March. --RL0919 (talk) 05:36, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- I would have responded to the talk page discussion, had I known it existed. I meant no disrespect to you or the page, but the point I made is self evident. If they cite a book's philosophy as an influence, the meaning of that influence should be mentioned. That said, I will look for a credible source that shows this self evident fact. If I find it, I will share it. --DMW 2600:8800:4021:DE00:3C7D:CD03:E8EC:64CB (talk) 17:29, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- P.S. ... but given the self evident nature of my comment, given the later mention of the philosophy later in this article, in the meantime, I implore you to reinstate my edit. --DMW 2600:8800:4021:DE00:3C7D:CD03:E8EC:64CB (talk) 17:31, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- here you go... https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/column-this-is-what-happens-when-you-take-ayn-rand-seriously 2600:8800:4021:DE00:3C7D:CD03:E8EC:64CB (talk) 17:38, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- Reliable sources document that some people have said that they were influenced by Atlas Shrugged, a lengthy novel that contains multiple ideas. But you have picked one of those ideas and proclaimed on their behalf that it is what they meant. That interpretation of what the influence was is not "self-evident". The opinion column you just linked is a better source than than your own imagination, but still well below what we should be looking for. Such columns are generally not good sources for facts, especially when they are not from a recognized expert on the subject and most especially not for claims about living people. --RL0919 (talk) 22:19, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yes the book does contain multiple ideas, but that response is a bit disingenuous, as the main thrust of the book is the philosophy of rational selfishness. If you think there is another more major theme in the book, I wish you would put it on the wiki page, as the page itself states rational selfishness as the main theme. Why the reluctance to put the theme of the book, which has been cited as an influence to these conservative and libertarian thinkers, next to the comment of its influence?
- Thank you for continued dialogue. 2600:8800:4021:DE00:C0D8:2083:8D8A:3C65 (talk) 09:04, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- The opening paragraph of the article says that the novel "explores a number of philosophical themes ... including reason, property rights, individualism, libertarianism and capitalism, and depicts what Rand saw as the failures of governmental coercion" and also mentions Rand's own description of the theme as "the role of man's mind in existence". The section on Themes has four subsections. It does discuss her support for egoism, but also that the novel "caricatures fascism, socialism, communism, and any state intervention in society", and other topics addressed in the novel including ones mentioned above such as property rights and individualism. When any individual says they were influenced by the novel, they could mean any of these or even some other element that isn't discussed in our article. If Wikipedia were in the business of drawing inferences about what people mean (without using a source that states that conclusion first), it would make more sense to infer that conservative politicians who overtly oppose socialism and communism are likely to be referring to the novel's critique of those, or to its endorsements of property rights and capitalism. It seems much less likely that politicians who are mostly self-declared believers in Christianity – a religion that endorses altruism and is founded on belief in a divine act of self-sacrifice – are indicating their support for Rand's very un-Christian views on egoism. But in any case, Wikipedia is not in the business of such inferences. --RL0919 (talk) 01:43, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- Reliable sources document that some people have said that they were influenced by Atlas Shrugged, a lengthy novel that contains multiple ideas. But you have picked one of those ideas and proclaimed on their behalf that it is what they meant. That interpretation of what the influence was is not "self-evident". The opinion column you just linked is a better source than than your own imagination, but still well below what we should be looking for. Such columns are generally not good sources for facts, especially when they are not from a recognized expert on the subject and most especially not for claims about living people. --RL0919 (talk) 22:19, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – September 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2024).
Guideline and policy news
- Following an RfC, there is a new criterion for speedy deletion: C4, which
applies to unused maintenance categories, such as empty dated maintenance categories for dates in the past
. - A request for comment is open to discuss whether Notability (species) should be adopted as a subject-specific notability guideline.
Arbitration
- Following a motion, remedies 5.1 and 5.2 of World War II and the history of Jews in Poland (the topic and interaction bans on My very best wishes, respectively) were repealed.
- Remedy 3C of the German war effort case ("Cinderella157 German history topic ban") was suspended for a period of six months.
- The arbitration case Historical Elections is currently open. Proposed decision is expected by 3 September 2024 for this case.
Miscellaneous
- Editors can now enter into good article review circles, an alternative for informal quid pro quo arrangements, to have a GAN reviewed in return for reviewing a different editor's nomination.
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SNL redirects
[edit]Hi, thank you for performing the redirects of the SNL history articles to the new article as per the AfD. I've been changing any links to those old pages from other articles to reflect the new article, and I was wondering if it might be worth it to clean up and delete a lot of these old redirects to the redirects that are now pretty useless? I've compiled a full list of redirects that I'll happily supply if you decide this is worth looking at, but a partial list includes History of SNL:2010-2015, History of Saturday Night Live (2015-present), and History of Saturday Night Live (2020-present). All of these are now double redirects; I have a list of many more. They can easily be changed to match the new history article but would it be better to just delete them and keep things simple? Having a bunch of redirects for potential misspellings of a redirect (being kept only for its page history) seems a bit much, no? StewdioMACK (talk) 16:34, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- @StewdioMACK: There are bots that will fix most double redirects, although you are also welcome to fix any that you find. As far as deleting them goes, that typically requires a WP:RFD discussion, and redirects that have meaningful page history are almost always kept to comply with our copyright licensing requirements. (See Wikipedia:Merge and delete for more detail about that.) --RL0919 (talk) 16:51, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks for response, that makes sense - just to clarify, I didn't mean to delete those redirects with page histories that were just redirected by you, but rather, the redirects TO those redirects with no page history that will no longer see any usage. Happy to leave them alone though. I have put one of them up at WP:RFD (Slap Pack) as I don't understand the context of it and it's not used, but I haven't put the rest up. I don't think it'd be controversial to delete them though. StewdioMACK (talk) 17:02, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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| I never extended my congratulations for the splendid rewrite that is Harriet Tubman! It's deeply humbling to see such a depth of research and wide coverage. Thanks for all you did there and elsewhere! Aza24 (talk) 23:28, 8 September 2024 (UTC) |
Rose photos
[edit]A courtesy note, some of your photos were added to this article.TomStonehunter (talk) 13:12, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
NCORP and political parties
[edit]Does NCORP not apply to political parties? Because the guidelines state otherwise. Traumnovelle (talk) 11:09, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Assuming you are referring to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New Zealand Republican Party (1995), no one made that argument. --RL0919 (talk) 12:00, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – October 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2024).
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- Administrator elections are a proposed new process for selecting administrators, offering an alternative to requests for adminship (RfA). The first trial election will take place in October 2024, with candidate sign-up from October 8 to 14, a discussion phase from October 22 to 24, and SecurePoll voting from October 25 to 31. For questions or to help out, please visit the talk page at Wikipedia talk:Administrator elections.
- Following a discussion, the speedy deletion reason "File pages without a corresponding file" has been moved from criterion G8 to F2. This does not change what can be speedily deleted.
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Arbitration
- The arbitration case Historical elections has been closed.
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Administrators' newsletter – November 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2024).
Administrator changes
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Guideline and policy news
- Following a discussion, the discussion-only period proposal that went for a trial to refine the requests for adminship (RfA) process has been discontinued.
- Following a request for comment, Administrator recall is adopted as a policy.
Technical news
- Mass deletions done with the Nuke tool now have the 'Nuke' tag. This change will make reviewing and analyzing deletions performed with the tool easier. T366068
Arbitration
- RoySmith, Barkeep49 and Cyberpower678 have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2024 Arbitration Committee Elections. ThadeusOfNazereth and Dr vulpes are reserve commissioners.
- Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate from 3 November 2024 until 12 November 2024 to stand in the 2024 Arbitration Committee elections.
- The Arbitration Committee is seeking volunteers for roles such as clerks, access to the COI queue, checkuser, and oversight.
Miscellaneous
- An unreferenced articles backlog drive is happening in November 2024 to reduce the backlog of articles tagged with {{Unreferenced}}. You can help reduce the backlog by adding citations to these articles. Sign up to participate!
"Handwriting expert" listed at Redirects for discussion
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The redirect Handwriting expert has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 November 3 § Handwriting expert until a consensus is reached. BD2412 T 16:13, 3 November 2024 (UTC)