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Revision histories from deleted timelines

Hi RL0919. I have uploaded three (2014, 2015 and 2016) year-by-year, scaled-down versions of the recently deleted "Timelines of the war in Donbass", up to 2016, at least until now. I also got rid of all the questionable or plainy unreliable source (most of them of Russian origin), leaving only those which were deemed acceptable by the majority of users involved in the AfD discussion. As the administrator who closed the AfD discussion, I ask you whether it would be possible for you to restore the old timelines' revision histories (from 2014 to 2016) into the new lists. The core of the histories is in the following articles/redirects:

Some of the above mentioned pages (2016) were redirects containing the oldest histories. All the pages were removed per WP:TNT, a guideline that despite its name it's not only about erasing content, but also about starting over. I know this may be a huge job to do, but since the new timelines borrow large parts from the old ones, the good-faith contributions of other users should also be recognized (even the admin who proposed the deletion acknowledged this during the debate). Thanks in advance.--Darius (talk) 12:53, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

@DagosNavy: I'm not sure I'm clear on what you are requesting. If you want the histories of these deleted articles to become part of the history of the new articles, as in a WP:History merge, I don't believe that is realistic to do in this case. The histories of the earlier articles overlap, so a history merge of them would be an unintelligible hash. There are are some other options:
  1. From an attribution standpoint, the simplest choice is not to re-use text that you can't attribute. It is too late for the three articles you already created, but it is an option to consider for any further articles in the series. (I do understand that this makes it significantly harder to write the new articles in the first place.)
  2. Undelete the previous histories and redirect the resurrected pages to the new ones. That's pretty easy to do, but might not go over well with some of the people who participated in the AfD. It could be seen as an end run to reverse the deletion.
  3. The option of "talk page attribution" is allowed, although not often used. I would need to pull the lists of contributors from the deleted histories, and place explanations on the new article talk pages that the new articles may contain some material contributed by them (with the relevant list shown).
Option 2 is the lowest initial effort, but I may prefer to go with option 3. I will look at the histories and think about it a bit, and get back to you next year. :-) --RL0919 (talk) 19:19, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the prompt reply. I was already working on the new articles, as agreed with a number of participants in the AfD, when the decision of deleting the old timelines was made. We don't know how many people would have accepted a merge, but I was hoping for a new extension of the talks. I think a redirect (option 2) would save a lot of work not only for you, but also for the contributors who edited these pages for years in good faith. I guess nobody can feel upset, excessive detail and unreliable sources (the main concern of the deletion proponent) would not be restored. A read-only display mode of the revision history (if possible) may be a way to reassure them that the old pages are gone forever. Thanks again, and see you next year ;)--Darius (talk) 20:44, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
@DagosNavy: Sorry for the delayed response, but after pondering I thought of a solution that should provide the best of both worlds: I can restore the histories, redirect, and then revision delete the content of all the older versions, leaving just the attributions visible. That way the AfD consensus to delete is respected, but all the users who may have contributed material used in the new pages are documented in the more typical way rather than on a Talk page. (And it's a lot less work.) So barring some unforeseen objection or difficulty, I will implement that solution within the next day. --RL0919 (talk) 17:37, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks a lot, @RL0919:, that will save years of good-faith users' attribution while at the same time hiding the deleted content. Just a doubt, the edit summaries would also be preserved in that way?.--Darius (talk) 23:26, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
@DagosNavy: Apologies for the very slow follow-up, but all the attribution histories are now restored. And yes, these do include the edit summaries. --RL0919 (talk) 02:56, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
@RL0919: I have no words to thank you enough for your arduous task, in the name of all the good-faith contributors to these chronologies. I am feeling extremely embarrassed to bother you again, but I will probably ask you to save the remaining histories later this year, when the new year-to-year timelines will be ready. Thanks again, you did a hell of work!--Darius (talk) 20:56, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

List of Monday night National Football League games prior to 1970

Did you believe there was consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Monday night National Football League games prior to 1970 to merge all of the content in the list into History of Monday Night Football? Because the creator of the original article just did exactly that. Eagles 24/7 (C) 03:33, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

@Eagles247: Clearly I did not. I've reverted the relevant edits and asked the editor in question to address the issue more appropriately. --RL0919 (talk) 06:24, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Request for Undeletion of MS Faizal Khan

Sir, I far as I know, Mr Faizal Khan is a very eminent personality very well known in and out of Kerala. I have noticed a vote stating ,he haven't done anything more than a speech in UN General Assembly, sir...how many will get a chance like that without talent...Next I would like to qoute , he is the Person directly Nominated by the Hon. president of India as the first court member of Maulana Azad urdu university. I am not here to debate...but felt very sad for the deletion of a page which is there for past 9 years on personal grudges of voters. Kindly do the needful favor, if you can being on the side of truth. Vediad (talk) 06:29, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

@Vediad: Unfortunately, what you may personally know or believe about his prominence is not enough to keep an article about him on Wikipedia. In the deletion discussion, all of the other particpants believed there was not enough significant coverage about him to satisfy our notability requirements. Articles that just mention him briefly as part of a story about something else are not enough. So based on what I have seen, I cannot find a good reason to grant your request. If you want to pursue the matter further, you can file an appeal for Deletion Review. --RL0919 (talk) 06:53, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Please refund to my own space

Hi RL0919. I was thinking of working on an article on Itay Lukach and I noticed a previous article was AFDed and deleted. Can you please undelete the latest version and put it on User:Muhandes/Itay Lukach so I can see what was already done? Thanks in advance. --Muhandes (talk) 17:23, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

@Muhandes: Done as requested. --RL0919 (talk) 19:33, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. --Muhandes (talk) 19:58, 6 January 2020 (UTC)


Administrators' newsletter – January 2020

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2019).

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  • The fourth case on Palestine-Israel articles was closed. The case consolidated all previous remedies under one heading, which should make them easier to understand, apply, and enforce. In particular, the distinction between "primary articles" and "related content" has been clarified, with the former being the entire set of articles whose topic relates to the Arab-Israeli conflict, broadly interpreted rather than reasonably construed.
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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:07, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

MfD decision was wrong

Sorry, but your decision over the draft about Thomas Clements was incorrect. It's wasting draft space and therefore Wikipedia resources. The creator is going to keep on going - he's already had this draft restored after it was deleted for inactivity all because his biased agenda demands it stay forever seeing as he thinks (despite being told four times) Clements is notable. There will never be any reliable sources. Like the last comment that said delete said, an exception to the rules needed to be applied. Please reverse your decision, ban Ylevental from editing and salt this draft space. 2001:8003:58A3:6C01:D0DC:C7CF:9CA2:4959 (talk) 21:15, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I cannot agree with your perspective on the situation. The arguments made by other editors for why the draft should be kept were on-point and aligned to our guidelines for why drafts should or should not be deleted. The primary author of the draft having a non-neutral POV is not in itself a sufficient reason for deletion. --RL0919 (talk) 23:38, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

173.235.7.86

May I please request immediate intervention with user:173.235.7.86 . AIV is backed up, and she clearly won't stop until blocked. CLCStudent (talk) 15:49, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. Just so you know, she made a threat of violence in her last edit. CLCStudent (talk) 15:55, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious
Three years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:33, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you today for The Unconquered (1940 play), about the Broadway play. "This tale of woe includes a leading lady trying to play a role half her age, an actor who took the saying "break a leg" a bit too literally, an author who had to get drunk to tolerate the dress rehearsal, and an embarrassing failure that led that author to permanently abandon writing for Broadway. Those are the real-life events, not the plot of the play!"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:47, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Request regards article "Mersey Tri"

Hi, I noticed you deleted my article on Mersey Tri. I would appreciate having a copy of the page please as it took me a lot of work. I'd like to revisite the page and perhaps have it in DRAFT folder while I work on it please? Best wishes — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter Heron (talk • contribs) 14:31, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

@Peter Heron: Restored as a userspace draft at User:Peter Heron/Mersey Tri. --RL0919 (talk) 15:54, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Deleting usefull articles

Why did you delete "List of Instant Game Collection games" articles? These articles were very usefull and updated pretty regurlary. Amiiboilua (talk) 13:12, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

As discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Instant Game Collection games (North America) (2nd nomination), this was not the type of material that Wikipedia is intended to provide. The lists have been relocated to a more appropriate website here. --RL0919 (talk) 13:47, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Darcie Lanthier

I noticed that you deleted this page, and I was reviewing the AfD (what a mess). I noticed that all of the routine coverage that was offered for you to review was all very recent. I'm not necessarily arguing against the deletion, but I thought I'd offer a couple more sources for sustained coverage over time that's not necessarily directly related to her political campaigns: [1] [2]. Neither of those were covered in her bio but one is covered in Prince Edward Island Route 1. Just for your consideration. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:16, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

@Ivanvector: I don't know that those pieces alone would shift the result, but if there is more "undiscovered" coverage (or new coverage appears) that could change opinions, the reasonable option would be to put an article into draft – whether in user space or draft space. That would allow more feedback on the sourcing before taking another run at mainspace. --RL0919 (talk) 18:30, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, I think that's a good approach. If I come across any more separate coverage I'll consider writing a new draft. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:21, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Open proxies

Hi RL0919, I'm writing to you because you're a sysop and maybe you could give me the information I need. If I suspect that certain IP addresses are open proxies, whom should I ask to check them and discover whether they actually are or they are not? Thanks! 151.30.109.206 (talk) 08:54, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

This is not my area of expertise, but if you suspect an address, it appears you can report it at Wikipedia:WikiProject on open proxies#Reporting. You can also check Category:Open proxies blocked on Wikipedia for addresses that are already blocked as open proxies. Hope that helps. --RL0919 (talk) 13:46, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you RL0919 (-: 151.30.96.222 (talk) 14:05, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

The Unconquered (1940 play) scheduled for TFA

This is to let you know that The Unconquered (1940 play) has been scheduled as WP:TFA for 13 February 2020. Please check that the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/February 13, 2020. Thanks! Ealdgyth - Talk 21:39, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Review deletion of Kosmos Holding

Hello, I would like to request the un-deletion of Kosmos Holding. I see many primary, and independent mention and focused coverage of this company. As well as many mentions and references to it within the wikipedia community from very notable Wikipedia article and figures (Davis Cup, FC Andorra, Hiroshi Mikitani, Gerard Pique, and more) I would like to review the reasons for deletion and edit the article to improve based on comments made by users please let me know! Thank you. (Sarahjua12 (talk) 15:51, 29 January 2020 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarahjua12 (talk • contribs) 15:27, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Given the history of that article, which was started by a user who was later blocked for abuse of multiple accounts, I don't think it would be wise for me to restore it for an editor with a freshly created account. If you want to pursue the restoration of the article, you can appeal to Deletion Review using the instructions found on that page. --RL0919 (talk) 20:01, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

World of The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

I was quite dismayed to find this article had been deleted, as I very much enjoyed reading the information contained within it. According to the archived deletion discussion, anyone wanting the text of the article can request it from you. May I please have the text of this article, or a link to it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwalexan (talk • contribs) 20:00, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

@Dwalexan: That should be no problem. Do you want it reacreated as a draft page in your user space, or would you prefer it sent to you by email? And if the latter, do you want the plain text or the wikicode? --RL0919 (talk) 13:40, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
@RL0919: Thank you for your help. I think I'll try the draft page option, for now at least. If I change my mind, I'll be sure to let you know. Thank you, again! Dwalexan (talk) 17:25, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
@Dwalexan: It has been restored and placed at User:Dwalexan/World of The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. --RL0919 (talk) 04:51, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – February 2020

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2020).

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  • Following a request for comment, partial blocks are now enabled on the English Wikipedia. This functionality allows administrators to block users from editing specific pages or namespaces rather than the entire site. A draft policy is being workshopped at Wikipedia:Partial blocks.
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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:06, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

About ComputerSupport.com WIKI page deletion

Hello! I saw that you deleted ===ComputerSupport.com=== wiki page. The page was live for about 4 years. I assume that someone edited the page with some information about one of the founders - Kirill Bensonoff in the attempt to create a Wiki page for him and mentioned an Amazon url. However, the ComputerSupport.com wiki page, as it was before that edit included relevant information about the company, the cooperation with CITRIX etc. Could you please reactivate the page?

Let me know.

Thank you,

Mike — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.106.124.191 (talk) 16:49, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

I deleted the article as the result of the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ComputerSupport.com. One participant there mentioned the Amazon link, but the general problem was the absence of evidence that the company meets our notability standards, in particular the ones for organizations. An article can be very informative but still be about a subject that is not notable. Nothing in what you said above makes me think that isn't the case here, so I have no basis to overturn the result of the deletion discussion. --RL0919 (talk) 21:05, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply! The collaboration between ComputerSupport.com and CITRIX has been nothing but notable (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/computersupport-com-launches-next-generation-181630428.html). Basically, together we worked at launching a new generation of cloud hosting powered by Citrix Netscaler® VPX, Citrix XenApp® and Citrix XenMobile®. We built ITAnyWhereCloud, a trademark, a faster, more scalable cloud solution with a focus on providing substantial savings over the on-premise infrastructure. Also, a Wikipedia admin has approved the page 4 years ago. It was live since then. Why wouldn't be notable anymore?
Let me know your thoughts.
Mike
P.S. Since 2017 I stopped the collaboration with ComputerSupport.com, but I still consider it notable and I've shown you why.
Apologies for the slow reply; I've not been on WP much the past several days. Unfortunately, I do not see anything in your comments that changes what I said above. Our notability standards are based on how subjects are covered in independent reliable sources, not on marketing-style assertions about new generations, trademarks, etc. If you disagree with my response and want to pursue restoration of the article, you could open a deletion review discussion for others to decide. --RL0919 (talk) 15:51, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
Could you please turn the page to draft in case other people have more information/sources to add? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.106.124.191 (talk) 13:12, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
Given the very obvious promotional interest involved, no. We don't need more press releases in draft space either. If someone can gather a list of independent reliable sources to satisfy the notability guidelines linked above, then writing a keepable article shouldn't be difficult, but until then it is best left where it is. --RL0919 (talk) 15:18, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Request to undelete: Michael Brown (City Year)

Hello, I would like to request that the page "Michael Brown (City Year)" be undeleted so that I can make updates and add new information and sources. I believe it was deleted because the subject was deemed not notable, however I believe he is notable as a leader in the US national service movement and as the current president of Harvard University's Board of Overseers. I am new to editing Wikipedia so am unsure exactly how the process works -- please let me know if you need additional information or if there is another avenue I should be pursuing to reinstate the page. BusyBadger (talk) 23:34, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

@BusyBadger: I don't believe it would be appropriate to restore the page as a regular article, but I could restore it as a draft, either in your own user space (e.g., as User:BusyBadger/Michael Brown (City Year)) or in draft space (as Draft:Michael Brown (City Year)). Do you have a preference? --RL0919 (talk) 15:59, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
@RL0919: I don't have a preference, either works for me. Thanks! BusyBadger (talk) 22:28, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
@BusyBadger: OK, I have restored to User:BusyBadger/Michael Brown (City Year). --RL0919 (talk) 19:51, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – March 2020

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2020).

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  • Following an RfC, the blocking policy was changed to state that sysops must not undo or alter CheckUser or Oversight blocks, rather than should not.
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  • Following a discussion, Twinkle's default CSD behavior will soon change, most likely this week. After the change, Twinkle will default to "tagging mode" if there is no CSD tag present, and default to "deletion mode" if there is a CSD tag present. You will be able to always default to "deletion mode" (the current behavior) using your Twinkle preferences.

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GAN review

Hello Richard, I hope you are well. I saw your name at Talk:Peter Dinklage/GA1 and was wondering if you were willing to take a look at the Emilia Clarke GAN review? I would appreciate any help and comments. Thank you! -- LuK3 (Talk) 18:44, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Farmer Maggot

Hi! Sorry to message you out of the blue, but is there any chance you could tell me who redirected this page, and when? I nominated the page for deletion back in 2017, it was closed as "keep" by a non-admin despite a 3.5-2.5 split with one of the keep !votes consisting entirely of Keep per above comments. Aoba47 (talk) 14:50, 18 April 2017 (UTC), and it seems someone, perhaps me, went ahead and ignored said BADNAC and redirected the page; the redirect target was apparently deleted three years later without my knowledge, and now I'm not sure if I accidentally did a runabout on the normal AFD procedure by unilaterally redirecting an article to another article that was subsequently deleted.

If it was me, I'd say the article should be restored and a separate AFD opened purely as a matter of procedure. Even if it wasn't me, I suspect whoever it was should probably be asked what they think of the matter.

Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 06:48, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

@Hijiri88: It looks like there was a successful proposed merge of the character article to the list in December 2019. The character article was redirected as a result of the merge. --RL0919 (talk) 13:54, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
Okay, that clears that up. Thanks! :D Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 02:13, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

FAC assist

Hello! I am hoping to renominate the MAX Red Line article for FAC this week. My previous attempt failed due to a lack of comments. Could I ask for your input in the nomination? I would greatly appreciate it. --Truflip99 (talk) 18:44, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2020

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2020).

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Draft:Melanie Perkins and Draft:Alex Depledge

Hi RL0919. You closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alex Depledge as "keep" in October 2019. Zaynha (talk · contribs) moved Alex Depledge to Draft:Alex Depledge. Zaynha did the same with moving Melanie Perkins to Draft:Melanie Perkins. I reverted the moves but have been re-reverted. See here for more information. Would you provide advice about what I can do to restore the drafts to mainspace? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 07:08, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

@Cunard: I have moved Alex Depledge back to mainspace because of the previous AfD result. I don't see any AfD for Melanie Perkins, so I have taken no action on that. --RL0919 (talk) 13:45, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for moving Alex Depledge back to mainspace. Cunard (talk) 10:32, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Alexander Augustus

Hello RL0919On 7 January 2020 you deleted Alexander Augustus, following this AfD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alexander Augustus. Yet somehow it made it's way back from an accepted draft on 29 March 2020‎. Is the current version of the article similar enough to the version that was deleted to qualify for CSD per G4? Thanks, Vexations (talk) 16:30, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

It looks reasonably different. The leads start off similarly, but after that the wording is different, the new version has about twice as much prose, and most important it has a lot more source citations (29 vs. 5). So I would say this is not a G4. --RL0919 (talk) 17:01, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2020

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Administrators' newsletter – June 2020

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:25, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Request

Hello Dear Respected Administrator Mr.RL0919

A page you deleted in Feb 2020 due to now or low news references Turki Almohsen, now i have seen 5 references in Google News so i should re create this page?

[1]

[2]

Memon KutianaWala (talk) 18:06, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "New Comedy Jameel competition supports performers in Saudi Arabia and beyond". AlKhaleej Today (in Arabic). 2020-07-02. Retrieved 2020-07-16.
  2. ^ "Community Jameel launches YouTube competition for aspiring comedians in KSA". BroadcastPro ME. 2020-07-05. Retrieved 2020-07-16.
Considering that you created the previous article that was unanimously deleted at AfD, I would suggest you submit any future attempt on this subject as a draft, at Draft:Turki Almohsen, to get review and advice from others before going to mainspace with it again. --RL0919 (talk) 23:34, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
Now at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2020 July 17. —Cryptic 18:23, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – August 2020

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Christopher Kaelin

Hello, I am writing to you because you were the XfD closer on the AfD. I started the article on Christopher Kaelin and then I also nominated the article for AfD. At the time I did not feel the subject was notable. Since that time I have learned to write better articles and now I have found more research to show that Kaelin is notable. So I am wondering if you can give me a draft of this article. I have been working on the article and I have improved the research and will not move it to main space until it is ready. Thanks. Lightburst (talk) 02:45, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

@Lightburst: I don't object to your attempt to create a draft on the subject, but I'm not clear on what your exact request is here. Do you want me to restore the deleted article to draftspace? Or to your sandbox? Something else? --RL0919 (talk) 04:53, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for the response. Restore to draft space if you would. That way I can have others work on it with me... My best Lightburst (talk) 16:50, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
I see how my message was confusing. I was rewriting the Kaelin article. I wanted a draft because I think the original history should probably be preserved. Apologies for the pings Lightburst (talk) 19:07, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
@Lightburst: Restored and moved to Draft:Christopher Kaelin. --RL0919 (talk) 19:08, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Please restore

Hi, please restore my page User:Misza13/vote (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). That's a "template" for personal use only, intended to be subst'ed and does not differ from manually inserting an image and bolding a bit of text, just makes it less of a hassle. Thanks, —Миша13 14:49, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

@Misza13: This page was deleted as the result of a discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Misza13/vote, and it would not be appropriate for me to reverse that result without some evidence of error or a change in consensus. If you want to pursue a review of the previous discussion, you can use Wikipedia:Deletion review. Or you could simply make your position known in discussions without adding an image, which is the approach most commonly used on English Wikipedia. --RL0919 (talk) 19:18, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
Both the nomination and the comments were not appropriate as this is a userspace page, not a common Wikipedia/Template page for use by the wider community. You, as the closing administrator, should have recognized that and, instead of just tallying delete votes (I hope you can appreciate the irony here), point out that the page does not actually violate any policies (specifically, WP:USERPAGE) and close as keep. In fact, no valid policy was even mentioned in the discussion.
You are referring me to WP:DR, but please note that the first step is to discuss the matter with the person who deleted the content, which is what I'm doing right now.
(excerpt from WP:DR) Consider attempting to discuss the matter with the closer as this could resolve the matter more quickly. There could have been a mistake, miscommunication, or misunderstanding, and a full review may not be needed. Such discussion also gives the closer the opportunity to clarify the reasoning behind a decision.
Can you clarify your reasoning for deletion?
BTW, it is well within any administrator's right to undelete content that was previously deleted.
Finally (and this is orthogonal to the validity of the deletion), the way I make my position known in a discussion, bold text or not, with image or not, is entirely up to my discretion and not actually dictated by policy. But feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. —Миша13 21:16, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
The nomination was made at the appropriate venue for deleting user pages, and the longstanding consensus against this approach to marking "votes" is not based on what namespace is used for the tool facilitating it. There is no formal policy on the matter, and consensus can change, but I didn't see any sign of it having changed in 2018, nor am I aware of such a change now. --RL0919 (talk) 22:05, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

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Hi you saved this page previously from being trolled with bad faith nominations, see the history of nominations for deletion for both this page and Red Scare (podcast). I think a previously blocked user has tried submitting it for deletion again under a different name but they've messed up the formatting, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dasha Nekrasova (3rd nomination). Can we get a speedy keep on this one too, or at least get the formatting fixed so more people can vote on it? I can't figure out what they've done. Thank you!Pinchofhope (talk) 07:02, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

It looks like another editor fixed the nomination formatting. Since a third AFD nomination after two keeps is unusual but not at all unheard of, and it has been more than six months since the previous nomination, I would say to let the process run its course. --RL0919 (talk) 22:05, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

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Prinzzess

Would you consider restoring this article? I created it but I was never notified that it was up for deletion, and I believe I can improve it. (SN: The nominator, whom I don't recall ever having any interaction with, was indeffed as a sockpuppet less than a month later.) Erpert blah, blah, blah... 21:53, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

@Erpert: Considering that it has been deleted twice at AfD, a restoration directly to mainspace does not seem justifiable. However, I could revive it to a draft if you would like to work on it for possible restoration as an article once it is suitable. --RL0919 (talk) 22:05, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
I didn't see the original version of the article from 2008, but judging from that AfD, it appears that it was deleted for different reasoning than from the second AfD. But yes, I would appreciate it if you restored it as a draft. Erpert blah, blah, blah... 22:10, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
@Erpert: Restored to Draft:Prinzzess. --RL0919 (talk) 22:27, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


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