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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Some pages have templates that describe problems with that article. There is now more information for mobile readers and what is wrong with the article and how they could help fix it. [1]
- You can now thank users for many more actions than edits to a page. This was one of the top ten requests in the Wishlist Survey last year. [2]
- The sort order of categories will have errors for a short time starting Monday 9 April (UTC). We are upgrading versions of an internationalisation library (ICU) and using a script to update the database. This will take between a few hours and a few days depending on wiki size. You can read more details. [3]
- Tag filter titles will now work better on wikis where the tag filter title is in a language that is written in another direction than the language of that wiki. This could for example be an English title (written from left to right) on a Hebrew or an Arabic wiki (written from right to left). [4]
Problems
- The bookmark icon for saved filters on the recent changes page disappeared because of new icon changes. This has now been fixed. [5]
- For a week in March rollbacks got both the
rollbackand theundotag on the recent changes page and other pages where you see tags. This has now been fixed. [6]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 10 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 11 April. It will be on all wikis from 12 April (calendar).- Patrolled edits now have three states instead of two. Recent changes filters are updated to show unpatrolled, autopatrolled and manually patrolled edits. [7]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 10 April at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
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You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 11 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The iOS and Android apps will get synced reading lists later in April.
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18:09, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Reduce logos
Hey. Could you reduce File:2017 Stanley Cup playoffs logo.svg and File:2018 Stanley Cup playoffs logo.svg? I have trouble doing it myself and cannot see what is wrong with the code. Thanks in advance. – Sabbatino (talk) 10:56, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Sabbatino: No problem. both done. I've a bot application in at present, hopefully they will be much faster in future. Ronhjones (Talk) 17:48, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks! I usually reduce logos myself, but some logos' codes are tricky and sometimes I upload them without being reduced if I cannot seem to find what is wrong. – Sabbatino (talk) 18:52, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Unprotection request for Cartoon and Ford Motor Company
Could you remove protection from these pages? Both are semi-protected and fully move-protected. Super Mario Guy (talk) 22:44, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Super Mario Guy: Such requests need to be done at Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection#Current_requests_for_reduction_in_protection_level Ronhjones (Talk) 22:52, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
AIV
Re: 68.234.100.169 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) and your comment. Don't you think five warnings in five days is more than enough? Especially as the IP blanked their page immediately after each warning. They must be laughing their head off at you. --RexxS (talk) 20:50, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
- @RexxS: Bishonen decided to give them a warning (he's an admin) at 09:38, there were no edits after that. Therefore "No vandalism since final warning" is the required answer. Ronhjones (Talk) 23:17, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
- Soft Soap 'Shonen is a she, and I know she's an admin. But if you think about it, every warning is a final warning in that sense – it's the last warning the IP has received. So I'll ask you again, don't you think five warnings in five days, coupled with a complete lack of positive contributions, is more than enough to establish that the account is a VOA? You don't have to tell me about what's "required" by the bureaucracy of AIV; I'm perfectly aware of it, thanks, I just want to know if you're happy preventing another admin from taking action on that report? --RexxS (talk) 01:43, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
- @RexxS: If Bishonen decided to give a warning, then that's it - that's the admin's decision. Admins don't wheel war. Ronhjones (Talk) 01:48, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
- I'd have some sympathy with that argument if you'd accurately conveyed what a wheel-war was. By definition it's "reinstating a reverted action" - i.e it would be the third admin action in a sequence. Apart from AE actions, any admin is free to reverse – another admin's action once. If you mean you don't like the idea of taking action when another admin has chosen not to do so, then that's fair enough, but it's not wheel warring by any stretch of the imagination. --RexxS (talk) 02:03, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
- I know what you mean, RexxS, and while I appreciate Ron's polite gesture, I don't altogether agree that the last admin to warn owns the decision whether to block or not. If that's a principle, I've violated it a few times, on the argument that the warning admin might not have noticed what I notice. OTOH blocking these obvious returning banned users is a bit of an empty gesture, as the world is full of proxies. Also, the IP can be blocked as soon as they resume trolling, and if they don't resume trolling, well then, mission accomplished, as the popular phrase has it.[8] Bishonen | talk 08:59, 16 April 2018 (UTC).
- I'd have some sympathy with that argument if you'd accurately conveyed what a wheel-war was. By definition it's "reinstating a reverted action" - i.e it would be the third admin action in a sequence. Apart from AE actions, any admin is free to reverse – another admin's action once. If you mean you don't like the idea of taking action when another admin has chosen not to do so, then that's fair enough, but it's not wheel warring by any stretch of the imagination. --RexxS (talk) 02:03, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
- @RexxS: If Bishonen decided to give a warning, then that's it - that's the admin's decision. Admins don't wheel war. Ronhjones (Talk) 01:48, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
- Soft Soap 'Shonen is a she, and I know she's an admin. But if you think about it, every warning is a final warning in that sense – it's the last warning the IP has received. So I'll ask you again, don't you think five warnings in five days, coupled with a complete lack of positive contributions, is more than enough to establish that the account is a VOA? You don't have to tell me about what's "required" by the bureaucracy of AIV; I'm perfectly aware of it, thanks, I just want to know if you're happy preventing another admin from taking action on that report? --RexxS (talk) 01:43, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes later this week
- Profiling statistics for an abuse filter tell how often edits match the filter. The statistics for the abuse filters were reset after 10000 actions. Wikis can now decide to reset it more or less often. They can file a phabricator task to do so. [9]
- Abuse filters will now treat integers and floats more precisely. For example, 5/2 was rounded down to 2 but will now be 2.5 and 2*4 will be the integer 8 and not the floating-point number 8.0. Division values are the only ones changed. For the rest only strict comparisons (
===and!==) will be affected leaving the values unchanged. [10][11] - The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 April. It will be on all wikis from 19 April (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 17 April at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 18 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The new PDF renderer could not create PDFs from books. Books are in this case collections of pages on a Wikimedia wiki. PediaPress will take over development of the books-to-PDF function. [12]
- Pywikibot will no longer support Python 2.7.2 and 2.7.3. [13]
- Volunteer developers can fill out the Wikimedia Communities and Contributors survey. The last day is April 22 (UTC). This is a third-party service survey. See the privacy statement.
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15:21, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
This file is in Category:Non-free files with orphaned versions more than 7 days old, but your bot is neither deleting the old revision nor requesting manual review. Something seems wrong. --Stefan2 (talk) 20:32, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Stefan2: Thanks for note - going back to log - looks like it tried, decided to go manual, and failed User:Ronhjones/Sandbox2. Need to compare the print statements to the log output and see why it aborted. Ronhjones (Talk) 21:14, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
- Well it's has to be this line
pagetext = re.sub(r'(?P<Main>\{\{(?:[Oo]rphaned non-free revisions|[Nn]on-free reduced).+?(?=}}))', r'\g<Main>|human=yes', pagetext)
- which adds the "human=yes" bit. Not obvious why it's not fixing it. More thought required (how I hate RegEx!) Ronhjones (Talk) 21:35, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
- As I see it the ".+?" is match "one to unlimited as few as times as possible", with no date parameter in the template, we need "zero to unlimited", which is ".*?". I'll change the code. Hopefully it will work tonight. Ronhjones (Talk) 21:48, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
- It would maybe be a good idea to change the template so that all files end up in the "manual" category after ten days. That would catch all kinds of situations where your bot won't do anything. --Stefan2 (talk) 21:52, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
- Not a bad idea, I'll have a look. Ronhjones (Talk) 18:23, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
- It would maybe be a good idea to change the template so that all files end up in the "manual" category after ten days. That would catch all kinds of situations where your bot won't do anything. --Stefan2 (talk) 21:52, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
- As I see it the ".+?" is match "one to unlimited as few as times as possible", with no date parameter in the template, we need "zero to unlimited", which is ".*?". I'll change the code. Hopefully it will work tonight. Ronhjones (Talk) 21:48, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
- which adds the "human=yes" bit. Not obvious why it's not fixing it. More thought required (how I hate RegEx!) Ronhjones (Talk) 21:35, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
Just sending you an FYI that I extended the original block you placed on this user to an indefinite block for creating another account to evade the block you placed. I let the user know that they'll need to appeal their block before they can continue editing due to the evasion of their block. Let me know if you have any questions. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:45, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
Sortname honorific prefix
Thanks for your help and suggestion on my talk page. I've updated Template:Sortname/sandbox and it seems to be working (see table at the foot of User:Greenshed/sandbox). Can you change the main template for me? I will update the documentation once the change is live. Thanks. Greenshed (talk) 02:13, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- All Wikipedias now have Page Previews.
- The iOS and Android apps now have synced reading lists. This means you can save articles to a private list that can be seen on your other devices if you use the apps.
- The icons in the 2010 wikitext editor have changed. [14]
- The visual editor and the 2017 wikitext ask you to write an edit summary after you press
Publish. This button now also shows an ellipsis. This is to show that pressingPublishis not the last step. [15]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 April. It will be on all wikis from 26 April (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 24 April at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 25 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- <mapframe> will come to most Wikipedias in May. This means that you can put interactive maps in the articles. Nine Wikipedias that use a strict version of flagged revisions will not get this feature in May. [16]
- The rollback function could change. This was a German community request. All editors with rollback rights can leave feedback on the proposed solution. The last day to leave feedback is 4 May (UTC).
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18:17, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
Helios Voting Logo.png
I can add the company logo to wiki because although it is a non-free logo, there is almost certainly no free representation. Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the meaning intended, would tarnish or misrepresent its image, or would fail its purpose of identification or commentary. Li.andy (talk) 18:43, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Li.andy: Correct. but it has to follow the non-free policy and guidelines. The guideline for NF images is 100,000 pixels. The automatic bot will sort it our for you, you don't have to do anything, the notice to you is for information only - because a very few images will be badly corrupted on reduction, therefore it's useful to know what will happen, so you can check the result (but looking at the image, it should be just fine - it has none of the problem type detail that does not reduce). Ronhjones (Talk) 18:48, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
can you please send links where "the communtiy" agreed on the NFC-SVG-Reduce
Hi Ronhjones!
Can you send me one (ore several) (diff-)links where the community agreed that NFC-SVGs should be reuploaded just to reduce the preview-size (without changing content). I won't read everything in the Archives of Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content.
If I can see a clear consensus I would support the approval of the bot.
JoKalliauer (talk) 18:40, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- I'll try, but don't hold your breath! As Stefan2 and I both said, that item was added to the documentation of Template:Non-free reduce some 7-8 years ago. Any discussion could have been in a multitude of places - en-wiki was rather different then. There are (I have links somewhere) discussions that state that official svg logos do not need to vector reduced - it's such a grey area! FWIW, I would prefer that SVG images are not allowed for non-free images, but that's another discussion that has been tried (and failed). Ronhjones (Talk) 18:58, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- I'll add interesting links to User:RonBot/4/Links as I find themRonhjones (Talk) 19:13, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- I agree with the conclusion on the second link: Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content/Archive_61#SVG_non-free_content:
Personally, I think we should just put a hard ban on all non-free SVG's regardless of source. It is impossible to meet the low-resolution requirement, even if its rendered at low-res, if the image has a de facto infinite resolution."
- Also I personally think reupload as png makes more sense (that can be done by a bot).
- Wikipedia:Village_pump_(idea_lab)/Archive_12#Disallow_non-free_SVGs: "There's no consensus above for us to not use non-free SVG files, so can we force people to not use non-free SVG files?" No. Anomie⚔ 12:09, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
- Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content/Archive_61#SVG_non-free_content: Personally, I think we should just put a hard ban on all non-free SVG's regardless of source. It is impossible to meet the low-resolution requirement, even if its rendered at low-res, if the image has a de facto infinite resolution.
- Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content/Archive_64#Non-free_images_and_SVG: Given that there is no guidance whatsoever in NFC or NFCC on vector images, I'm not sure it's necessary to make this clarification, but if there's a consensus on this page that vectorized versions of non-free images are definitely forbidden, I can modify the RfC wording.
- Change of Documentation That is just a maintenance-category, because NFC-SVGs are avaiable also they are depreciated.
- Maybe you find any specific link which agrees with your (and not with my) opinion.
- JoKalliauer (talk) 20:43, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- As I said, discussions can happen anywhere, I looked at the editor who made the template documentation 8 years ago, and I have no idea how he got that data - he had not (apparently) been near any non-free discussions, so how did he know about "nominal size", that makes no sense. If you are correct then you should start a new discussion to resolve the template documentation if you truly believe it is incorrect. If that is then the case then I must remove the {{non-free reduce}} template that I added in over 2000 files as they have been tagged on an incorrect assumption, based soly on the template documentation I viewed. It would be stupid to leave them in, with 12,000 SVGs which on a quick look are just as complex SVGs, but not tagged as their nominal size did not show up in my special search of https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=File%3A+incategory%3A%22All+non-free+media%22+fileres%3A%3E325+filemime%3Asvg - which is just a search based on "nominal size". I will keep looking though. Ronhjones (Talk) 21:10, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
Helios Voting Logo.png
Can you direct me to a link that guides me through the process of reducing an image's pixels.128.32.87.201 (talk) 22:28, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- You do not have to do it manually - the reducing bot has already been and done it for you. The full guideline is at WP:Image resolution Ronhjones (Talk) 22:40, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
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Nominal Size Reduction for non-free SVGs
Discussion here (at least I think that's probably what triggered my edit). Hope it helps. As you may be able to read, I found it odd at the time that it matters to Wikipedia editors, due to the infinitely-scalable nature of SVGs, but that's how it is. gringer (talk) 23:08, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- @JoKalliauer: another one for you to read. Ronhjones (Talk) 23:13, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- If you want to convince me, please send me a diff-link of one edit that shows what you want to show, don't mess me up with reading any bulk-discussion, with no clear conclusion. JoKalliauer (talk) 16:44, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
- It did say "and may violate fair use rationale which does not permit large nominal sizes" - and that was back in 2010. This is all going so far back that links are very hard to track down. Ronhjones (Talk) 17:45, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
- And there are at least 3 links in that Workshop, where users have been told to reduce the "nominal size" for non-free reasons. It appears to be the standard in the early 2000s. Ronhjones (Talk) 17:51, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks, but you just found two people @Ronhjones, Orionist, and Jovianeye: and @Masem: [17], , but there are also persons who are different opinion @Anomie:[18], @ViperSnake151: [19], @0x0077BE:[20], @Jheald: [21], @Stefan2:[22]...
- So you want to say that there is no clear conclusion and it is still for discussion? (But why do you ask for approval for a bot, before discussion?)
- Since Wikipedia (at least the german one) is not about wining most votes, it is about having the better arguments, you still can try to start a discussion.
- Try to put that clear into a guideline that the preview-size of NFC-SVGs should be reduced without changing the content. If the community would agree on that, I am happy to support the approval of your bot.
- Since @Masem: posted a usefull comment:[23], I might rethink my opinion. JoKalliauer (talk) 12:29, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
- @JoKalliauer: I don't really care about the changing of the nominal display size of a non-free SVG. The comment of mine that you linked was opposing a proposal to disallow non-free SVGs entirely. Not watching this page, please ping on relevant replies. Anomie⚔ 13:13, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
- And there are at least 3 links in that Workshop, where users have been told to reduce the "nominal size" for non-free reasons. It appears to be the standard in the early 2000s. Ronhjones (Talk) 17:51, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
- It did say "and may violate fair use rationale which does not permit large nominal sizes" - and that was back in 2010. This is all going so far back that links are very hard to track down. Ronhjones (Talk) 17:45, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
- If you want to convince me, please send me a diff-link of one edit that shows what you want to show, don't mess me up with reading any bulk-discussion, with no clear conclusion. JoKalliauer (talk) 16:44, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
Just a heads-up
Some of the logos that you reduce for compliance purposes I reupload, the reason is that the tool you use leaves some compression artifacting (not a complaint, just an observation!). Example. Granted, it's barely visible, but it should look the best it can at the smaller size. At first glance my reuploads look the same, so I figured I'll let you know. --Ben Stone 09:25, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Benstown: Fell free to upload a better one if the reduction has gone a bit off. There are 3 ways it gets reduced - DatBot6 is usual reducer for jpg and pmg - if it crashes (as it did on this day) and DatGuy doesn't notice (it runs on his PC) then I'll do them semi-automatically for that day, if DatBot6 is likely to be down for some time then I would invoke the old Theo's Little Bot - also RonBot2 does the GIFs in the same way. All these bots (as far as I know) use Python Imaging Library 2.7, which is good, but maybe can be surpassed by better (and possibly expensive) software (python is free!). RonBot1 will hide the original after 7 days, you can always ask for me to unhide (or send by e-mail) the original, if you think there is a problem. I'm trying to get approval for RonBot3 (Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/RonBot 3), which will notify the uploader that there is an imminent reduction and request they check the reduced item - that might help this sort of situation. Ronhjones (Talk) 13:48, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
Woollylawnmower
No worries. I've seen Twinkle fail to catch duplicate blocks executed within a close time frame. And to be honest I was very close to indeffing them. -Ad Orientem (talk)
- No happened to me before. First time for every thing :-) I suspect the next block won't be far away... Ronhjones (Talk) 01:58, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
Query
Can a file uploaded to English wikipedia be used in other language wikipedia? Can the File namespace pages be translated? Harsh Rathod Poke me! 13:52, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Harshrathod50: No. Local files are just local to that Wikipedia. Only files on commons are global - but commons only takes files that are both free in the US and free in the country of origin. Note that not all Wikis allow non-free content - see m:NFC for a full list. Ronhjones (Talk) 14:45, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for taking your precious time to reply me. Harsh Rathod Poke me! 15:30, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The parameter for unpatrolled edits in recent changes filters changed name. You might need to update saved filters and links. [24]
Problems
- We are migrating wikis from Tidy to Remex. Because of a bug the 250 wikis which do not yet use Remex were switched on 23 April. This is two months early. This meant that pages with broken wikitext showed wrongly to readers. The bug was undone the next day. You can help fix broken wikitext to avoid this problem when your wiki switches. Tidy will be removed on all wikis before July 2018. You can follow the process on Phabricator. [25]
Changes later this week
- You will be able use CodeMirror in the 2017 wikitext editor on all wikis. CodeMirror helps with syntax highlighting. It has previously been a beta feature and only available on wikis with scripts that are written from left to right. [26]
- When an administrator blocks someone they will have a calendar they can use to choose when the block ends. This is to make it easier to pick a specific date. [27]
- You can soon turn on the Performance Inspector in the Editing section in your preferences. It shows information about the performance of pages. This could be the size of modules in the page, how many CSS selectors are defined on the page and how many are used, or the size of the images on the page. This tool is intended to help editors fix pages that load slowly. [28]
- There is a new abuse filter function called
equals_to_any. You can use it to check if its first argument is equal (===) to any of the following ones. For example you can use it to check if the page's namespace is amongst a given set of values in a more compact way than you could earlier. You can read more on mediawiki.org. - The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 1 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 2 May. It will be on all wikis from 3 May (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 1 May at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 2 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The Wikimedia Cloud Services team is working on a new project called Toolhub. The goal is to make it easier for Wikimedians to discover software tools they can use. You can leave feedback on the talk page or email jhare
wikimedia.org to leave private feedback. - All wikis with fewer than 100 high-priority linter errors in all namespaces will switch to use the Remex parsing library. This is to replace Tidy. It will happen on 2 May. Other wikis will be recommended to switch soon when they have fixed the errors that must be fixed. Wikibooks wikis with fewer than 100 high-priority linter errors in the main namespace will switch on 9 May. Tidy will be removed on all wikis before July 2018. [29][30][31]
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16:18, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – May 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2018).
Administrator changes
None
Chochopk • Coffee • Gryffindor • Jimp • Knowledge Seeker • Lankiveil • Peridon • Rjd0060
Guideline and policy news
- The ability to create articles directly in mainspace is now indefinitely restricted to autoconfirmed users.
- A proposal is being discussed which would create a new "event coordinator" right that would allow users to temporarily add the "confirmed" flag to new user accounts and to create many new user accounts without being hindered by a rate limit.
Technical news
- AbuseFilter has received numerous improvements, including an OOUI overhaul, syntax highlighting, ability to search existing filters, and a few new functions. In particular, the search feature can be used to ensure there aren't existing filters for what you need, and the new
equals_to_anyfunction can be used when checking multiple namespaces. One major upcoming change is the ability to see which filters are the slowest. This information is currently only available to those with access to Logstash. - When blocking anonymous users, a cookie will be applied that reloads the block if the user changes their IP. This means in most cases, you may no longer need to do /64 range blocks on residential IPv6 addresses in order to effectively block the end user. It will also help combat abuse from IP hoppers in general. This currently only occurs when hard-blocking accounts.
- The block notice shown on mobile will soon be more informative and point users to a help page on how to request an unblock, just as it currently does on desktop.
- There will soon be a calendar widget at Special:Block, making it easier to set expiries for a specific date and time.
- AbuseFilter has received numerous improvements, including an OOUI overhaul, syntax highlighting, ability to search existing filters, and a few new functions. In particular, the search feature can be used to ensure there aren't existing filters for what you need, and the new
Arbitration
- The Arbitration Committee is seeking additional clerks to help with the arbitration process.
Obituaries
- Lankiveil (Craig Franklin) passed away in mid-April. Lankiveil joined Wikipedia on 12 August 2004 and became an administrator on 31 August 2008. During his time with the Wikimedia community, Lankiveil served as an oversighter for the English Wikipedia and as president of Wikimedia Australia.
Deleted External Links That Are Research
Mr. Jones, Many thanks for your message about external links. I contributed links that I believe provides additional research about those individuals. Specifically, the links are to digital collections of these individuals; thus, providing access to primary-source materials. For example, on Alfred Junge's page, I added a link to Junge's digitized works: https://hrc.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p15878coll33
For those interested in Junge, this link provides immediate access to his own materials and allows one to investigate and explore Junge's work online. Giving access to Junge's work seems like the strongest form of further, and relevant, research that could be provided to Wikipedia users.
In reviewing the acceptable links policy, I believe the listings I submitted are acceptable under Wikipedia: Some acceptable links include those that contain further research that is accurate and on-topic
I am submitting the links on behalf of the research library the Harry Ransom Center, which holds these collections, and is seeking to share these online research opportunities with people who have an interest in these individuals and/or subjects. Within "External Links" on many Wikipedia pages, I see several hyperlinks to other digital collections and/or archival collections relating to the individuals. There is no editorializing our links, but simply providing the information.
I hope that you will consider this information, and restore the links. Again, our mission is to further research, and sharing knowledge of these digital collections seems to be a contribution to Wikipedia users.
I appreciate your review, and look forward to hearing from you. Thanks, Meghan
- @Meghanfarrell:The links are all from one one web site, so that is (usually) spamming the system, unless they have been agreed. You need to talk to other users either on the talk page or some appropriate project talk page. The repeated addition of WP:EL, using one web site, in quick succession, triggers the edit filter to post notices at the vandalism reporting page.Ronhjones (Talk) 18:15, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the information. Yes, you are correct, the links are coming from a single source, specifically a humanities research library (Harry Ransom Center) that holds these collections of the noted individuals/subjects. I will follow your guidance to share this issue with a talk page. It's unclear to me if my sharing via a talk page is a public forum or is it geared towards Wikipedia administrators, etc. Could I please trouble you for your insight on what I will be seeking from that talk page, i.e. endorsement from others, sharing the discussion, seeking input, and such. This is new for me so I appreciate any suggestions that you can share. Thanks, Meghan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meghanfarrell (talk • contribs) 18:28, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Meghanfarrell: Talk pages are for all editors. You might not get a response, if the subject is not being well watched - then try a project that is listed on the talk page. Admins are only editors with a few extra tools (delete, protect, block, etc.)Ronhjones (Talk) 18:35, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
TheFatRat Icon
The Image is used only in TheFatRat article, only in infobox. Can you explain why that isn't fair use sir? Hermit Curator 00:11, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
- @HermitCurator: Image is replaceable as the person is alive. Only in very rare cases are images of living persons allowed to be fair use in Wikipedia. English Wikipedia's fair use policy is very strict - see WP:NFC. Ronhjones (Talk) 00:16, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
Thank you sir, I placed a speedy delete tag on the image. I will be very careful about my uploads hereafter. Hermit Curator 00:18, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
- @HermitCurator: No problem. Non free is a minefield. Plenty of editors have problems, Ronhjones (Talk) 00:54, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
Deleted External Links That Are Research
Thanks for your responsiveness. I will take your advice and bring this issue to a talk page. Could I trouble you to let me know if you will reinstate the external links I submitted - as you may recall I shared their research value. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.116.202.174 (talk) 18:26, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
- If no one objects then put them back. Ronhjones (Talk) 18:32, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
Non-free reduce
Hello, I just wanted to let you know that you recently added {{non-free reduce}} tags to a number of images which were already tagged with the same template (or another deletion tag), and so I have reverted the edits. Thanks and regards. LinguistunEinsuno 18:52, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Linguist: Thanks - that's always the problem with Landscape monitors, they don't show all the page... doh! Ronhjones (Talk) 19:02, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
- No worries
. LinguistunEinsuno (Linguist111) 20:35, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
- No worries
Hi Ronhjones! Happy Friday! Hey, so I saw the vandalism made to Anderson Valley by that person who created two accounts, which you blocked both for (nice!)... However, I also saw that you added semi-protection to the article for a duration of one month and you added pending changes protection to it indefinitely and immediately following the vandalism made by this one person - why was adding protection necessary here? And why did you protect the article for a whole month / indefinitely? Before today, this article was only edited a total of five times in 2018... I just think that adding page protection was unnecessary here; you're essentially letting one person control and restrict the ability for all other anonymous / new users to touch it now. Let me know if there's something I've missed; I might certainly have done so. Thanks :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:02, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Oshwah: It's not just Friday, it's my birthday :-) Feel free to change it. It's either one person with two accounts of two people working together - whichever, they seem to want to target that page, and may well create new accounts. It's just an educated guess of their next move, it could go either way. The AIV report said "Probably sockpuppets for repeated vandalism on Anderson Valley", I assume the reporter has better knowledge of the page. Ronhjones (Talk) 22:26, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
- Happy Friday, and Happy Birthday! Why are you spending it on Wikipedia? LOL. It's definitely the same person; the accounts were created within a few minutes of one another, and they were using the same edit summary and disruption to the same article. As soon as the first received a bunch of warnings, the person jumped to the second. I went ahead and updated both blocks to log that information. I'm going to go ahead and remove the protection off the article completely - partially because of how I feel above, but also in order to keep a live watch on it and see if the vandalism continues. Waiting to protect an article being purposely disrupted and vandalized can often be just as informative and good for us (if not more so) than moving forward and protecting ;-). If more disruption gets added to the article, I'll of course add protection back to it. But I have a feeling that this was just someone trying to be creative, who made two accounts, and tried their luck to see how far it would get ;-). Thanks for the response and for letting me change the protection. I'm glad you didn't take offense to my concerns; you'd be surprised as to how many others would... lol. Anyways, I hope that you have a happy, fun, and safe birthday and I'm certain that we'll cross paths again here very soon. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:35, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Oshwah:No Problem. It's a Bank Holiday week end here - and the weather has just (this week) warmed up - so going out is likely to be a nightmare drive anywhere - I'm not wasting expensive diesel (£1.20/litre tonight) sitting in some traffic jam! So chilling out with a little port... :-) Ronhjones (Talk) 22:40, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
- Fuel is expensive... especially if it's being spent to be burnt sitting in the middle of the road and literally moving nowhere, so I feel ya. Hey, so long as you're happy, you can spend your birthday doing whatever you want... after all, it's your birthday. If you're not spending it doing exactly what you want, then you're doing it wrong... lol ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:10, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Oshwah:No Problem. It's a Bank Holiday week end here - and the weather has just (this week) warmed up - so going out is likely to be a nightmare drive anywhere - I'm not wasting expensive diesel (£1.20/litre tonight) sitting in some traffic jam! So chilling out with a little port... :-) Ronhjones (Talk) 22:40, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
- Happy Friday, and Happy Birthday! Why are you spending it on Wikipedia? LOL. It's definitely the same person; the accounts were created within a few minutes of one another, and they were using the same edit summary and disruption to the same article. As soon as the first received a bunch of warnings, the person jumped to the second. I went ahead and updated both blocks to log that information. I'm going to go ahead and remove the protection off the article completely - partially because of how I feel above, but also in order to keep a live watch on it and see if the vandalism continues. Waiting to protect an article being purposely disrupted and vandalized can often be just as informative and good for us (if not more so) than moving forward and protecting ;-). If more disruption gets added to the article, I'll of course add protection back to it. But I have a feeling that this was just someone trying to be creative, who made two accounts, and tried their luck to see how far it would get ;-). Thanks for the response and for letting me change the protection. I'm glad you didn't take offense to my concerns; you'd be surprised as to how many others would... lol. Anyways, I hope that you have a happy, fun, and safe birthday and I'm certain that we'll cross paths again here very soon. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:35, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
deletion of nick joong
@Ronhjones i don't know why u have deleted nick joong's page can u explain it what is the mistakeNicknikio (talk) 16:06, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- Could not find any reference to person in refs - just to the group. Not many reliable sources either. En-wiki article must be fully compliant with all policies and guidelines from the first save, unless in Draft space - new articles created direct are almost impossible to do. Ronhjones (Talk) 16:17, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
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Image reduction
Hi! Recently you tagged this non-free image for reduction, and DatBot dropped by to shrink it. However, a lot of what the image was used to illustrate in the article relied on the on-screen text (particularly the menu in the center of the screen), all of which has been destroyed in the reduction. After testing several reductions myself, it seems that the font in this game is only legible at 640x480—it becomes scrambled at lower resolutions. Would it be all right with you if I reverted to the original 640x480 image? JimmyBlackwing (talk) 13:02, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
- @JimmyBlackwing: No problem. One good reason for the 7 day wait, before my bot hides the old versions. Screenshots do sometimes have these issues, it's not always possible to guess the result of a reduction until it's done. Some games will reduce to 320x240 - it all depends on the designer of the game. File tagged for no reduction. Ronhjones (Talk) 18:11, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
- Many thanks! JimmyBlackwing (talk) 18:18, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
deletion of nick joong
@Ronhjones hello i am new to wikipedia i am trying my hard to do a article for Nick Joong but i can't can u help it because while i am creating it. it's getting deleted or some one is saying do not create hoaxes it is not fake Nick Joong is an artist under s.m entertainment but why it is getting deleted will u help me.Nicknikio 06:49, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Nicknikio: Creating pages direct is almost impossible for anyone, I never recommend it - there are no advantages any more - all new articles either created direct or in Draft are automatically set to "noindex" to stop the search engines listing it, until it is reviewed. I always suggest starting any new article, in Draft, at WP:AfC Ronhjones (Talk) 18:26, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
A word back on the mass reverting IP
They're back at it again.
Trafalk09 (talk) 04:57, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Trafalk09: I love it when a plan comes together. IP blocked for 2 weeks, and all those pages - which were protected for 2 days - obviously not enough, now 1 month. I doubt if we have seen the last yet. Ronhjones (Talk) 17:35, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
Transparent background
Hello Ronhjones, I would like to ask you if you could make the background of this image transparent for me. I really don't know how to do that. Thanks in advance. Akocsg (talk) 22:50, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Akocsg: Not possible - it's a jpg file - there is no alpha channel in a jpg file. It would have to be a png file - I don't think the border is sharp enough to be worth converting to png and trying to make the outside transparent, it's likely to damage the border and not be very good. Ronhjones (Talk) 22:57, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
Deleted photos of mine
Hello Ron! I am Märt Bormeister, an artist and a photographer living in Estonia. And there is a wiki site about me: https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A4rt_Bormeister_noorem
Actually I do not understand English at all (my friend is helping me with this translation and the letter to you). And as I am born on 1951 and not very computer savvy, I was trying to upload my works (photos and photos of my paintings + collages) here https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A4rt_Bormeister_noorem, but often it happens, that these get deleted as fraud or not having permissions etc... This is pretty frustrating not being able to get my works to stay on the wiki site.. This has happened like 15 times already. I understand, that you are doing your job, but how can I prove, that these works are mine? I tried to set some copyrights to these via OTRS, but as it turns out, I might have not done everything correctly and am sorry.
Could you please advise on how to proceed as I would very much like to have my own works to be on the Wiki page. This is very important to me, my life depends on it in some ways (I can explain later). And if you need somekind of verification that I am whom I claim myself to be, I can provide you with proofs. If needed.
Thank you in advance and have a great evening! Märt B. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aeg-ruum-2 (talk • contribs) 19:20, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Aeg-ruum-2: Go to c:Commons:Email templates/Consent. Send in the form, as shown and OTRS will validate your claim and when they have done that, they will undelete the images. There is no Estonian version of the page, there is a Russian page (c:Commons:Email templates/Consent/ru) or a Polish page (c:Commons:Email templates/Consent/pl) if that is any better.
- Mine c:Commons:Email templates/Consent. Saatke vormis, nagu näidatud, ja OTRS kinnitab teie nõude ja kui see on tehtud, siis ta tühistab pildid. Lehe eesti versiooni pole, on vene leht (c:Commons:Email templates/Consent/ru) või Poola leht (c:Commons:Email templates/Consent/pl), kui see on parem. Ronhjones (Talk) 23:49, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
deletion of the voice usa season 15 coaches
@Ronhjones hello, you have deleted the post I made on the voice usa about adding the seasons 15 coach lineup and I know its my fault because I did not put in the website that I got this information from. and the reason I put this edit is because last year when we were in season 12, someone else put in the edit for the upcoming seasons 13, and 14 coaches so that's why I made that edit from now.
here is the website that shows where I made that edit that you have deleted: http://variety.com/2018/music/news/the-voice-season-15-coaches-kelly-clarkson-jennifer-hudson-1202806667/
would I be able to put this edit back in. ~~Spanisharabic~~ can you please put a response on my talk page instead. thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spanisharabic (talk • contribs) 16:09, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
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22:23, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Hate to have to bother you again
They're at it again...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/182.232.113.148
Trafalk09 (talk) 21:36, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Trafalk09: No bother. All nicely sorted. Ronhjones (Talk) 21:47, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- I think they've realized that I'm a lost cause, but it seems they've moved on to some other poor sap?
- I don't get it? lol. Trafalk09 (talk) 10:18, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Trafalk09: So now there is a range block of 65536 addresses. Ooooh. That might surprise them. But sadly, that's not the only range they have been using - there is still the 182.232 series... Ronhjones (Talk) 17:41, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
- I don't get it? lol. Trafalk09 (talk) 10:18, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
FTO 'Car Of The Year Award'
Hi - I note in 1st para of 'Mitsubishi FTO' a comment: "Better source needed" ???
[1]
Unsure what better source than those supplied?
• Item '2' a link to the list of Award Winners over the years
• The actual term 'COTY' in common FTO ownership parlance, as an acronym of 'Car Of The Year'
(Recommend you Google "FTO COTY" as example)
• and... finally, the picture on the rear quarter of the COTY I owned with a Factory-installed BADGE reading "Car Of The Year"?
[2]
Edit: See also ref 12 on the main page, re https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_FTO#Awards
Webcor (talk) 13:32, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Webcor: It's not my edit - but you cannot use Wikipedia as a source in a reference - hence some automated bot has added that flag. Ronhjones (Talk) 17:46, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
Pailla Malla Reddy
HI Ronhjones,
I have completed my research on Dr. Pailla Malla Reddy and edited in my sandbox.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sriniguduru/sandbox
Do you mind taking a look at the story and guide me if there is anything else is should add to be able to publish the story? Thank you!
Sriniguduru (talk) 06:38, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Sriniguduru: I am not the best article writer, you would be better off just getting a proper review - there is no limit on reviews - they point you to what is needed to be done. All I will say is remove the refs from the headings and put them in the paragraph, they do not look nioe in a heading, and they are supposed to support some fact - that's not what a heading should do. Ronhjones (Talk) 19:05, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
@Ronhjones Thanks for the advice. Will follow your suggestion and submit for review. Sriniguduru (talk) 18:15, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
Reduced size for At The Movies CD cover.jpg
Hello, can you please restore the full resolution version of File:At The Movies CD cover.jpg? The file is now under CC by-sa via OTRS. Thanks --Ruthven (msg) 07:37, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
Your BRFA
Hello, your recent BRFA (Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/RonBot 3) has been approved. Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 13:45, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
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GOL 1907
Why did my image get taken down? I used it with permission, and I tagged it like the info box stated to. Tigerdude9 (talk) 00:59, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Tigerdude9: Somehow you tagged it for deletion - I've no idea what you actually added (we can only see the edits that are finalised), some templates redirect into other ones - the last edit is shown below. If you didn't ask for it to be deleted then maybe (I'm guessing) you have added something like a CC-BY-ND or CC-BY-NC template (which are not for use on non-free images - you only have to use a non-free license which is already there). So as your last edit contained {{db-f3}}, I deleted it. If you want it back, I can do so.
{{watermark}}
==Summary==
{{Non-free use rationale 2
|Description = The ill-fated Gol Transportes Aéreos Boeing 737-800 registered PR-GTD at Rio de Janeiro's Galeão International Airport. This aircraft crashed 6 days later as GOL Flight 1907.
|Source = https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/5832183
|Date = October 9, 2006
|Author = Marcelo Magalhães
|Article = Gol Transportes Aéreos Flight 1907
|Purpose = To support encyclopedic discussion of this work in this article. The illustration is specifically needed to support the following point(s): <br/>
This is the actual aircraft that crashed.
|Replaceability = n.a.
|Minimality = We will have a photo of the aircraft involved the the actual crash, as most Wikipedia articles tend to do.
|Commercial = n.a.
|Other information = {{Non-free with permission}}{{db-f3}}<br/>
The photo itself was taken on September 23rd, 2006.
}}
==Licensing==
{{Non-free fair use in}}
{{Category ordered by date|Non-free files uploaded as object of commentary|2018|05|21}}
- Hope that makes some sense. Ronhjones (Talk) 16:06, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
User Pulsifier220
Hello. On 18 May, you blocked Pulsifier220 for two weeks, for which I thank you. But, if you take a look at the contributions of 208.255.153.190, it seems pretty clear this is him again, using the IP to continue editing. We should keep an eye on that IP, and a range block may end up being necessary. Cheers! ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 12:53, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
Hi, I'm RonBot, a script that checks new non-free file uploads. I have found that the subject image that you recently uploaded was more than 5% in excess of the Non-free content guideline size of 100,000 pixels. I have tagged the image for a standard reduction, which (for jpg/gif/png/svg files) normally happens within a day. Please check the reduced image, and make sure that the image is not excessively corrupted. Other files will be added to Category:Wikipedia non-free file size reduction requests for manual processing. There is a full seven-day period before the original oversized image will be hidden; during that time you might want to consider editing the original image yourself (perhaps an initial crop to allow a smaller reduction or none at all). A formula for calculation the desired size can be found at WP:Image resolution, along with instructions on how to tag the image in the rare cases that it requires an oversized image (typically about 0.2% of non-free uploads are tagged as necessarily oversized). Please contact the bot owner if you have any questions, or you can ask them at Wikipedia talk:Non-free content. RonBot (talk) 18:07, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
Sources needed for Days of the Year pages
You're probably not aware of this change, but Days of the Year pages are no longer exempt from WP:V and direct sources are required for additions. For details see the WikiProject Days of the Year style guide. Your statement is incorrect. Toddst1 (talk) 16:24, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Toddst1: Thanks. Yet another thing to remember...! Ronhjones (Talk) 18:51, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
RonBot File Size Messages
I frequently upload image files for album covers in order to make a small dent in the preposterous list at [39]Category:Album infoboxes lacking a cover. The files are often bigger than the desired size, and until recently another tool called DatBot would handle the image reduction within the file page. (See e.g. [40].) Recently the task was taken over by RonBot, AND RonBot sends messages to my User Talk page (see [41]), which DatBot did not do. Please advise on how I can avoid receiving the Talk page messages because they are repetitive and obvious. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 19:41, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
![[40]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:RRosnes_Ancestors.jpg){kind=link}
- @Doomsdayer520: RonBot only finds the large files. DatBot still does the actual reduction (jpg and png). RonBot has the precribed code from Template:Nobots, and therefore should ignore a talk page if nobots is set up. Add {{Nobots|deny=RonBot}} to the top of the talk page, and it should go quiet.Ronhjones (Talk) 19:54, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 20:21, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
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RonBot 4 approved
Finally! Sorry that took so long. See the BRFA for my approval comments. ~ Rob13Talk 17:12, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Why did your bot tag this file? The file had already been tagged manually, and there are now two tags. --Stefan2 (talk) 17:52, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Stefan2: Because you used a template I did not know existed. I'll tweak the code. Ronhjones (Talk) 17:56, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
- Note that you can ask the API to return a list of all templates on the page. The API responds with the full page title,
Template:Non-free reduce, even if a redirect is used. --Stefan2 (talk) 18:37, 26 May 2018 (UTC)- @Stefan2: Thanks, I'll have a good look later - I've done a quick fix for now. Ronhjones (Talk) 19:37, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
- Note that you can ask the API to return a list of all templates on the page. The API responds with the full page title,
Hi Ronhjones!
I'm not shure if the behaviour on File:AsiaWorld–Expo_Logo.svg is the expected behaviour, because upscaling SVG-Previews can be problematic, because the 0.1 megapixels is rough tradeoff. But Logos might need a lower resolution than a map. Please check it, otherwise ignore it. JoKalliauer (talk) 23:53, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
- You left the template for reduction in place. Not sure why it did not skip it - will have to go through log files. Ronhjones (Talk) 23:58, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
- That was in the first run, bug has was seen on another file and has been fixed. Ronhjones (Talk) 00:02, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
- Correct action on File:Atkins Nutritionals logo.svg Ronhjones (Talk) 00:08, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
- It might be because the bot already run on this file and did not update the resolution (but the bot did update the actual SVG). But actually I don't care. I just wanted to tell you, that you know it and you could fix it if you like it. JoKalliauer (talk) 00:14, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
- Correct action on File:Atkins Nutritionals logo.svg Ronhjones (Talk) 00:08, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
- That was in the first run, bug has was seen on another file and has been fixed. Ronhjones (Talk) 00:02, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
Large image uploads
Hi, Ron! I am aware of the images being a little on the large side. They are automatically reduced, which I don't mind at all. I don't need constant reminders filling up my talk page. I do appreciate the input, though. Also, can all of the images I upload be made into .SVG files? I have no way of doing that or at least nominate them for Wikimedia Commons? NostalgiaBuff97501 (talk) 01:40, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
- @NostalgiaBuff97501:
- There has been lots of discussion in the past about non-free svg files. Nothing really settled, There was a push to only allow NF svg where it was an official logo file by the copyright owner - didn't go anywhere, but could always come back. I'd leave them as they are.
- Commons won't take anything that looks vaguely non-free - we are rather more ruthless over there!
- To kill messages add {{Nobots|deny=RonBot}} to the top of the talk page and RonBot won't edit the page.
- Ronhjones (Talk) 13:34, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now use global preferences on most wikis. This means you can set preferences for all wikis at the same time. Before this you had to change them on each individual wiki. Global preferences will come to the Wikipedias later this week. [42][43]
- It is now easier for blocked mobile users to see why they were blocked. [44]
- Wikidata now supports lexicographical data. This helps describe words.
- There is now a checkbox on Special:ListUsers to let you see only users in temporary user groups. [45]
- Some rare invisible Unicode characters have recently been banned from page titles. This includes soft hyphens (U+00AD) and left-to-right (U+2066) and right-to-left (U+2067) isolate markers. Existing pages with these characters will soon be moved by a script. [46]
- There's a new Wikimedia Foundation team to support the Wikimedia technical communities. It's called the Technical Engagement team. Most of the team members did similar work in other teams before this. [47]
Problems
- Some translatable pages are showing old translations instead of latest ones. The cause of this issue has been fixed. We will update all pages automatically to show the latest translations. [48]
Changes later this week
- There will be a new special page named PasswordPolicies. This page gives information about the password rules for each user group on that wiki. [49]
- A new way to see moved paragraphs in diffs is coming to most wikis. This is to make it easier to find the moved paragraphs and the changes in them. [50]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 29 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 30 May. It will be on all wikis from 31 May (calendar).
- Wikis can enable Citoid to provide automatic reference look-up in the visual editor and the 2017 wikitext editor. This is complex. The tool will now disable itself if the configuration isn't correct. It has warned about this in the JavaScript console since February. Check that your wiki is configured correctly. You can ask for help if you need it. [51]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 29 May at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 30 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Content Translation drafts which have not been updated in over a year will be removed. This allows other users to translate those articles. [52]
- A survey is collecting information on what users think about how Wikimedia wiki pages are loaded. This information could be used in future development. [53]
- Some wikis will switch to use the Remex parsing library. This is to replace Tidy. It will happen on 30 May and 13 June. Wikis with fewer than 100 linter issues in the main namespace in all high-priority linter categories will switch. This includes Wikidata. Tidy will probably be removed on all wikis in the first week of July. [54][55]
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12:40, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
RonBot image size threshold
0.1 megapixels was never intended to be a hard limit, it was just a suggestion. If you go back to the original discussions when User:Masem inserted it into WP:NFC, the intention was that images not be resized to 0.1 megapixels unless they were significantly above it (like 0.25 megapixels or so). Your bot tagging images that are 0.105 megapixels is nitpicky, and results in excessive user notifications and watchlist entries for almost unnoticable changes in image size. For raster images, it can also result in unnecessary image degradation for an unnoticable change in image size. Dashbot and fbot both used 0.16 megapixels as a threashold for tagging/resizing images, and I think it would be wise to have RobBot do the same. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 17:24, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Ahecht: There aren't that many new files every day, so it's hardly filling watchlists - the bot is only doing new uploads. Previously an image owner may have not realised that their image was reduced, and would not be able to make sure all the elements they wanted were visible. Now they have an indication of potential reduction. Some high uploaders have already added a {{nobots}} to their talk page to deny RonBot, as they don't want notices - that's their choice. I would suggest you start a discussion to agree on a threshold for the bot. It can be easily changed once we have a consensus. Also if we move the target then we need to move DatBot's target, as that is set (like the original Theo's Little Bot) to remove the reduction request unless over 105,000 pixels. Ronhjones (Talk) 18:12, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
RonBot
Hi, I appreciate your effort for RonBot. But could you please keep an exception for my uploads. I deliberately upload non-reduced images (mostly film posters) allowing a bot to reduce it, it's annoying when each time a bot leaves a message on my talk page. Thanks.--Let There Be Sunshine 18:03, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Let There Be Sunshine: RonBot follows standard protocol, and can be prevented from editing your page - To kill messages add {{Nobots|deny=RonBot}} to the top of the talk page and RonBot won't edit the page. Ronhjones (Talk) 18:13, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks Ron. I shall tag the files myself for non-free reduction.--Let There Be Sunshine 18:32, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Let There Be Sunshine: No need - it will still tag the files, but won't leave you a message. Ronhjones (Talk) 18:44, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oh, I see. Thanks for informing that.--Let There Be Sunshine 18:47, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Let There Be Sunshine: No need - it will still tag the files, but won't leave you a message. Ronhjones (Talk) 18:44, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks Ron. I shall tag the files myself for non-free reduction.--Let There Be Sunshine 18:32, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
Unruly
Greetings, I would like to ask if you could stop Spanisharabic (user) from being unruly; I guess that would involve a block. He or she has been like this for quite a while. Off topic I saw you like narrowboating; have you been canal boating in other countries besides England? Bleucheeses (talk) 22:39, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Bleucheeses: Blocked for unexplained content removal. Only in England - narrowboats not idea for sea crossings :-) Ronhjones (Talk) 22:47, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, the sea can be rough. Thank you for your help. Before I ask for more assistance please understand I expect little! I know you have things to do and this is probably not super important. A user, flighttime has three pages or so and claims to be semi-retired. This user tried to cause me problems a year ago and I ignored it. Back again with the Michael Jackson article and other articles, I guess. Ironically that user was reported as a problem recently. Thus you have a user causing trouble and being reported for it, then filing false or incomplete reports. Bleucheeses (talk) 19:22, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
- Ha, which droid are you? Ya, you have a bot? Obviously. Bleucheeses (talk) 05:27, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- I saw that because you archive your talk page with a bot, I suppose. Bleucheeses (talk) 20:39, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Bleucheeses:That's not my bot to do the archiving. THIS is my bot. Ronhjones (Talk) 20:58, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
Creed (film)
You indefinitely semiprotected Creed (film) in 2015, when it was a current film. Would you consider unprotecting it now, as it has been three years? 50.81.227.4 (talk) 18:36, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
- Why not. Probably time to test the water. Ronhjones (Talk) 18:44, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – June 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2018).
Administrator changes
- None
- Al Ameer son • AliveFreeHappy • Cenarium • Lupo • MichaelBillington
Guideline and policy news
- Following a successful request for comment, administrators are now able to add and remove editors to the "event coordinator" group. Users in the event coordinator group have the ability to temporarily add the "confirmed" flag to new user accounts and to create many new user accounts without being hindered by a rate limit. Users will no longer need to be in the "account creator" group if they are in the event coordinator group.
- Following an AN discussion, all pages with content related to blockchain and cryptocurrencies, broadly construed, are now under indefinite general sanctions.
Technical news
- IP-based cookie blocks should be deployed to English Wikipedia in June. This will cause the block of a logged-out user to be reloaded if they change IPs. This means in most cases, you may no longer need to do /64 range blocks on residential IPv6 addresses in order to effectively block the end user. It will also help combat abuse from IP hoppers in general. For the time being, it only affects users of the desktop interface.
- The Wikimedia Foundation's Anti-Harassment Tools team will build granular types of blocks in 2018 (e.g. a block from uploading or editing specific pages, categories, or namespaces, as opposed to a full-site block). Feedback on the concept may be left at the talk page.
- There is now a checkbox on Special:ListUsers to let you see only users in temporary user groups.
- It is now easier for blocked mobile users to see why they were blocked.
Arbitration
- A recent technical issue with the Arbitration Committee's spam filter inadvertently caused all messages sent to the committee through Wikipedia (i.e. Special:EmailUser/Arbitration Committee) to be discarded. If you attempted to send an email to the Arbitration Committee via Wikipedia between May 16 and May 31, your message was not received and you are encouraged to resend it. Messages sent outside of these dates or directly to the Arbitration Committee email address were not affected by this issue.
Miscellaneous
- In early May, an unusually high level of failed login attempts was observed. The WMF has stated that this was an "external effort to gain unauthorized access to random accounts". Under Wikipedia policy, administrators are required to have strong passwords. To further reinforce security, administrators should also consider enabling two-factor authentication. A committed identity can be used to verify that you are the true account owner in the event that your account is compromised and/or you are unable to log in.
Thanks
Appreciate your help. Betting this isn't done tho. John from Idegon (talk) 00:01, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The MonoBook skin has been optimised for mobile devices. It now looks different. [56]
- Planet Wikimedia collects blogs about Wikimedia. It will now use the Rawdog feed aggregator to do this instead of Planet. [57][58]
- Redirect links in Special:WhatLinksHere now link to the original page and not the target page. This was done earlier and changed the used messages on some pages. This was a problem for wikis that customized the message. A new change fixed this by using the old messages with one more parameter for customization. Wikis that already changed their customized messages will have to move the customization back again. [59]
Problems
- You will not be able to edit some wikis between 06:00 and 06:30 UTC on 13 June. You can see if your wiki is one of them.
- MassMessage did not work 24–28 May. This is also why last week's Tech News was late. [60]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 June. It will be on all wikis from 7 June (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 5 June at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 6 June at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The new filters for edit review tools and interface for watchlists will leave beta. This is planned to happen in June or early July. [61][62]
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21:54, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
This does not appear to be a valid use per the tag itself: Note: If the image depicts a person or persons on the cover, it is not acceptable to use the image in the article of the person or persons depicted on the cover, unless used to directly illustrate a point about the publication of the image. Use of the image merely to depict a person or persons in the image will be removed.
Please reconsider as it has no use on Wikipedia to represent anything. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 17:30, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Chrissymad:The CSD reasoning was "Forbes cover - this is far from a low res image", clearly that does not apply once reduction has taken part - no mention of the suitability as a non-free image. A replaceable image needs a {{di-replaceable fair use}}, which I have just added (it will still get reduced). Ronhjones (Talk) 17:42, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Replacement image
Thanks for your advice so far. I've uploaded the image. What do I do next?
Thanks
Steve Stevechelt (talk) 23:20, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Stevechelt: To replace the existing image, just change the file name in the link...so...
- [[File:Junction 3 of the M50 near Gorsley - geograph.org.uk - 761554.jpg|thumb|The minor Junction 3 exits, viewed from the adjoining minor road bridge]]
- Becomes...
- [[File:UK M50 J3.jpg|thumb|The minor Junction 3 exits, viewed from the adjoining minor road bridge]]
- Ronhjones (Talk) 23:37, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
Hello there, I may need your help.
I'm a new Wikipedia editor here and I'm confused. I want to ask you for your help, thank you!! Why the picture I uploaded was reduced to a much smaller size？ How can the picture I uploaded not be reduced to a smaller size?
It is me who captured the screenshot, so does that mean I created the picture? What if I lied to Wikipedia that the picture I uploaded is my personal work(but it is not)?
Thank you! I do want to make Wikipedia better.Mitochondrions (talk) 00:13, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Mitochondrions:You can have any size you like, BUT if it is over 100,000 pixels then there needs to be a very good reason, explained in full in the Fair-use rationale - and the image must have a {{non-free no reduce}} template added (or it will get reduced to just under 100,000 pixels). You should read WP:NFC. Images like File:Elsa, singing Let It Go.png, you could take the original and crop the black bits, and upload the result, it will get reduced to the guideline, but would be better - this is one reason we leave the original image for a week. A suitable reason for big files is if there is some fine detail which is has some critical commentary about it in the article (but not text - it is expected that most text won't read at guideline size). Do be careful you don't fall foul of WP:NFCCP3a - a minimal number of mon-free items in an article. You will soon find that the whole NFC is a minefield... (and everyone has different views...) Ronhjones (Talk) 17:44, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- In the Wikipedia app for Android or iOS users can create reading lists. The reading lists can be seen on different devices if you are logged in to your account. There is now a browser extension so you can add pages to your reading list from a web browser. At the moment it works with Firefox and Chrome. [63]
- There is a new version of Pywikibot. Pywikibot is a tool to automate tasks on MediaWiki wikis. [64]
Problems
- The MonoBook skin was changed to make it work better for mobile users. This caused some problems. The change was rolled back to fix them. The new version is now back on the wikis. MonoBook users can opt out from the new responsive design. [65]
Changes later this week
- The new filters for edit review tools and interface for watchlists will leave beta. For most wikis this will happen on 18 June. For the rest it will happen on 25 June. [66][67]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 June. It will be on all wikis from 14 June (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the Readers Web team IRC office hour. There you can discuss tools to contribute on the mobile web for the existing MediaWiki skins. The meeting will be on 18 June at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 12 June at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 13 June at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- You will be able to move local wiki files to Commons and keep their original data intact. This is planned to come to the first wikis in June.
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21:55, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
Another unreadable text file
The file File:Windows XP Activation Wizard.png has text that is just a little bit too small to read the text properly. It is linked to the Microsoft Product Activation article, and the image's purpose is to denote all of the text involved in the new product activation system, but some of the words are just too non-legible to read. Is it possible to make the width become 350px instead of 300px, so that the words are that bit more legible? Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 01:01, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
- Or perhaps 320px, to make only just a few words a bit more legible while still making the words themselves pretty crappy-looking in that the image is unusable as a non-Wikipedia use file? Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 01:04, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Qwertyxp2000: Howzat! I've added a non reduce template, but my bot does not tag a "Non-free Microsoft screenshot" anyway. More "belt and braces" as we say here. Ronhjones (Talk) 16:24, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
- Yep, that looks good, because since it's the main subject of the article, and that all of the words should need be legible to critique more easily. I will also reduce the size of the image to as small as possible in that it would be as readable as it is readable. Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 04:26, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Qwertyxp2000: Howzat! I've added a non reduce template, but my bot does not tag a "Non-free Microsoft screenshot" anyway. More "belt and braces" as we say here. Ronhjones (Talk) 16:24, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
Thank you
Thank you, for deleting the article on ontological hermeneutics. I promise I will never, ever, ever, do anything like this again. Please accept my sincerest apologies. If consequences are deemed necessary, it is my intent to maintain an attitude of fully accepting them, and learning from them. Urstadt (talk) 18:33, 13 June 2018 (UTC)