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Archive 33: August 2017

12:15:57, 1 August 2017 review of submission by Gillianmc898



I'm trying to figure out, how to get a baseline entry added. For example, Vizzuality, have only one reference and their page exists. Should we remove a lot of the content on the eSpatial proposed draft and only discuss the company?

Overlinking

Hi, thanks for your work on US settlement articles. Please note that "married couples" should not be linked, by our guideline (unless there's some special reason to do so). Latitutde/longitude needs a proper minus sign (click the appropriate button below the edit box). And please avoid linking other common terms. Tony (talk) 13:23, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

15:04:15, 1 August 2017 review of submission by Navaneethmadhusoodanan


Hi Onel5969. The article that i have submitted about an accepted and acclaimed Film Awards Function was declined with note - "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified." The award function that was mentioned in the article is in its budding stage due to which i could find only few references from acclaimed and trust worthy news houses in India like the Indian Express, Malayala Manorama etc. I have shared up to 6 reference links detailing the Award function. In the coming years this referred Award Function is surely supposed to have more coverage and references and authenticity to my belief. There is also no intention to promote any business or brand nor spam Wikipedia as this is a crowd funded event, which will also happen in the years that follow.

I humbly request you to make a re review on this regard. Still if the given references do not serve the purpose, please guide me to publish the content abiding the norms of Wikipedia

Hi Navaneethmadhusoodanan - The issues you express above are basically the reason it doesn't currently pass notability criteria. That fact that at some point in the future the awards "may" be notable isn't something that is taken into consideration on WP. Onel5969 TT me 17:30, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Hot Octopuss

Good morning One 15969. Did an edit to change the tone to neutral, took out ™ where they were previously, and changed PULSE to Pulse (stylised as PULSE) to create an encylopedic format. That should eliminate the promotional feel of Hot Octopuss' Wikipedia page. That should do it. Can you remove the speedy deletion template now? EllenZoe (talk) 14:39, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi EllenZoe - I see that it's been moved to a userpage to allow you to work on it. Took a look in its current draft form and it still is mostly a promotional brochure. Don't add commentary, don't make judgement claims, don't give product descriptions and comparisons. Simply state facts. And especially don't talk about marketing campaigns. Although, in the instance of this particular article, the campaign was unique enough to most likely warrant a mention. Right now, I'd still target it for an ad. Onel5969 TT me 18:28, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
Thank you so much Onel5969 . I found it. I will work on it again. Just another question...once I rewrite it can I just create the page again — Preceding unsigned comment added by EllenZoe (talk • contribs) 19:10, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi again Onel5969. I rewrote the Hot Octopuss page in my sandbox. Can you please review User:EllenZoe/sandbox/Hot_Octopuss before I reload up on Wikipedia? Thank you.EllenZoe (talk) 15:58, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

13:35:13, 3 August 2017 review of submission by Ireneyuj



Dear reviewer Onel5969, I am writing to you with regards to the article I wrote and which you decline due to the fact that the submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. I therefore checked the definition of reliable sources (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Identifying_reliable_sources) and would like to argue that academic and peer-reviewed publications, scholarly monographs, and textbooks which are the references that are included in my article are defined by Wikipedia as usually the most reliable sources. I have also included also news articles and links to show notability of the subject not written by the subject. Could you please accept my article now? Thanks, Irene Ireneyuj (talk) 13:35, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Ireneyuj - since you've already resubmitted, I'll let another editor take a whack at it. Onel5969 TT me 18:55, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Onel5969, it would be awesome if you could have a look at the edits I made and references I added and could approve the article. It may only take you a few minutes! Thanks a lot for your understanding, Irene Ireneyuj (talk) 09:08, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Why?

Why are you doing edits like this, removing information?? A second or two's consideration would have led you to Duke de Gramont, and a few more to Antoine Charles IV de Gramont. Johnbod (talk) 14:47, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Johnbod - The better question is why, since you're a contributing editor to the article hadn't you corrected it prior to this? Instead of leaving an incorrect link to a dab page. And the question is rhetorical, in light of your incivility, your comments are no longer welcome on my talk page. Onel5969 TT me 18:57, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Glenford Eckleton Mitchell

Regarding the redirect, I thought that would be normal. If it's not just let me know. I regard redirects as a helpful way to get people to where they're trying to go. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 13:50, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Cuñado - I feel the same about redirects, and usually try to redirect an article, rather than deleting it. However, in this instance, the consensus wasn't to redirect, but to delete. I think part of the reason for that is the history of the article attempting to be redirected, only to be continually returned to article status. The creation of a redirect, in this case and imho, will only serve to encourage the article to be recreated, so editors will have to monitor it. Just my thoughts, and I was curious as to why you had created it. Thanks for responding. Onel5969 TT me 13:57, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
I understand and I'll refrain from redirecting after deletion. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 14:33, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

Karry Wang

There was an link on Come Sing with Me article, why no notability? No idea. SA 13 Bro (talk) 19:53, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

Move review for Damn (Kendrick Lamar album)

An editor has asked for a Move review of Damn (Kendrick Lamar album). Because you were involved in the move discussion for this page, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the move review. — TheMagnificentist 12:15, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Walter Q. Jackson

Hi User:Onel5969 first of all thanks for noticing me my article is nominated for deletion. I'm not a native speaker of English. To tell the truth, I don't know what to do next. Poorly sourced? They are what I found about him on the net. He is great musician and actor in Japan. I want to keep his information on Wikipedia.--Set02mar (talk) 13:34, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Set02mar - To show notability you need sourcing from independent reliable sources. And those references should be in-depth coverage of the subject, not mere listings. Sources like blogs, YouTube and Facebook are not reliable sources. Sources which have a relationship with the subject, like brock brothers and momofunk are not independent. Right now, that's all the sourcing in the article. His resume does not suggest greatness, but rather a journeyman actor/musician, who works, but isn't really notable. I tried to search for better references, but couldn't find any. Sorry. Onel5969 TT me 12:25, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Makati Sky Plaza

Hi User:Onel5969 first of all thanks for noticing me my article is nominated for deletion. I am a new user in Wikipedia. I have added new informations about my page Makati Sky Plaza including its coordinates. I want to keep that page on Wikipedia.--UnitedPhilippines (talk) 16:54, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi. The building articles you've recently created, including 45 San Miguel Avenue, GV Tower Hotel, and Wack Wack Twin Towers, simply don't meet Wikipedia's notability criteria. It's not enough that a building simply exists, else we could have an article on every building in every town in the world. A building has to have notability. These simply don't. Please see WP:GNG and WP:GEOFEAT to see what constitutes notability for buildings. Onel5969 TT me 12:29, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Talking about the 2017 Universiade sports section ceremonies.

Hey, I'm GlashaLeo. I come from Taiwan, I feel so proud that my country can hold a world-class sports game in August. Therefore, I create all the games that will be hold in the Summer Universiade. The game will begin in less than 2 weeks, there is no "too soon". So, please DO NOT redirect all the sport result pages to the 2017 Summer Universiade!! I use all my heart to creates all these pages, your move really hurts me!!!

Hi GlashaLeo. In their current condition, with such limited (and in some cases non-existent) sourcing, they are too soon. As more information becomes available, add it. Creating poor, virtually empty articles like this does not help the encyclopedia, rather it creates more work for other editors. Please don't move them back until, on an individual basis, they can be fleshed out and be real articles. Right now they are nothing more than templates and shouldn't be in mainspace. And please remember to "sign" your comments. Onel5969 TT me 12:33, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Notability tag

Hi there, I've removed the notability tag on Carlos Cuevas. I'm letting you know per point 3 on WP:WTRMT. There are sufficient reliable sources already referenced in the article, so it passes the general notability guideline. He also had significant roles in multiple notable TV series, Merlí and Ventdelplà. If you have other concerns, please let me know. Thanks. --Hameltion (talk, contribs) 15:19, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Feels (song)

Hi User:Onel5969, can you please help by creating a collage image of the "Feels" video for the article's music video section please? If so, my idea was one of these [1], [2], because you couldn't show just one of them, and they're never seen together, but if the shots could be like these [3], [4], so it shows the psychedelic effects used if possible.--Theo Mandela (talk) 02:36, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Telstra People's Choice Award winners

please create new article for ballet dance, dont spoil this article, I am expanding it with lot of effort both interms of internet cost and physical strain. it is not stub. Bumbravathi (talk) 12:30, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi, Bumbravathi - There's no reason for a separate article. Simply combine the two awards and expand the existing article. You can put the effort into the existing article. Onel5969 TT me 12:32, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

sir, both awards are completely different one is for Indian film, and the other is for Australian Ballet, how can we combine it. I will create an article for ballet dance if you wish to, and this will avoid ambiguity. Bumbravathi (talk) 12:34, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

WCWC Legacy Championship

Don't redirect the article. Leave it as is. I don't like using WP:OSE as it's not the best argument, but there lots of titles that might not be considered notable yet those articles still exist. I'm not going to get into a revert war. Neither should you. Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 14:11, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

You're right, no reason to get into an edit war. Onel5969 TT me 14:17, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Pacify Her

Hello i just wanted to that why has Pacify Her been deleted? And yes i have read WP:SONG but theres not anything on there that said that i couldn't make the page. Why has Mrs. Potato Head been stayed put because that song isn't even a single? Littlemixfan1 (talk) Use {{re|Littlemixfan!}}
to reply to me 7:47, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

If you read WP:SONG you would understand that it meets none of the criteria to show its notability. There is no in-depth coverage, and its charting history does not qualify either. Onel5969 TT me 00:10, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
It actually does the chart history is on the third source please click on it because it was actually on the charts. Please tell me why Mrs. Potato Head is still there when it wasn't a single? Littlemixfan1 (talk) Use {{re|Littlemixfan!}}
to reply to me 11:59, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
It actually doesn't. That chart isn't a major chart. And please stop with the WP:OSE arguments. Onel5969 TT me 02:03, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
Wow, You don't have to be rude i was just asking a question as a new editor should be doing. I was just asking. You obviously don't want to answer my question so? ~ Kind Regards Littlemixfan1 (talk) Use {{re|Littlemixfan!}}
to reply to me 17:43, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
Wow, I was just mirroring your tone in my response, so if you feel I was being "rude": physician heal thyself. And I did answer your question: it does not pass notability criteria and OSE is not a valid argument. Take care. Onel5969 TT me 12:10, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
The user is the same person as Hercules123! - 183.171.183.158 (talk) 16:59, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Jericho Creek (various)

Thank you for reviewing the Jericho Creek articles I've created. As you can see, I'm pretty much a rank amateur, hope to improve with time, especially with help from reviewers. Thanks for the title in the reference in J.C. (Jordan Creek), makes sense so the reader can see who the owner of GNIS is, I'll go back and add it to others. Just one question, the help articles aren't always easy to comprehend to us newbies, what effect does "

" have within the article. I know what linkrot is, but, not what the tag does. Thanks, again, all you reviewers have been a great help. Also, in the infobox template I've been using has a tag as the first line "". There are no dates in any of the infobox fields, so, I'm not sure why it's there. In articles, I've been conforming to the standard date format as ddmmmyyyy, which is my personal preference anyway.Are1718 (talk) 02:39, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Are1718 - That is called a "tag". In this particular case it means that references (either one or more) are simply a weblink between the <ref> weblink </ref> templates. Take a look at WP:CIT on how to properly format citations. Doing it your way makes it easier for citations to get lost. Hope this helps. And keep up the good work. Onel5969 TT me 02:45, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

ASAP TyY Page Deletion

If you could reply with examples of how it seems to be promotional, I would love to see them so that I can change it. All my best. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Castelliaj (talk • contribs) 20:10, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

  • Castelliaj The article emphasized what's given to investors and clients, none of it can inherit notability and both information and sources are given no exceptions. The best option would be to weigh whether there's enough major independent news uninfluenced by the company itself. SwisterTwister talk 23:58, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Where was this? How can I see what the article looked like beforehand... because there was no mention of this as far as I am concerned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Castelliaj (talk • contribs) 06:33, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

User talk:swistertwister No mention of any investors or clients. This is an unaffiliated musical artist. Without examples, this is a baseless and suspect deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Castelliaj (talk • contribs) 06:40, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

These questions are better asked of the admin who actually deleted the article. And if you can't be civil, stay off my talk page. Onel5969 TT me 12:36, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Is there any way you could possibly reinstate the page for an hour or so so that I can atleast copy and paste the old coding as to not have to start over completely from scratch? Thank you sir. Castelliaj (talk) 20:52, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Castelliaj - I'm not an admin, so I can't. But if you type in the page name that was deleted, it will tell you the name of the admin who deleted it. You won't have to copy and paste, simply ask them to undelete it and move it to draft space where you can work on it. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 00:31, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Redirects and pipes within US county templates

Hi there. You do a ton of edits to US city and town articles. Would you have a moment to comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Templates#Redirects within templates. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 13:54, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

AGF rollback at Kashrut

At first, I rolled back your change because with respect to Jews, there are aspects of intermarriage that are more about interfaith marriage and aspects that are more about interethnic marriage, with interfaith probably the more important of the two. But then I found the article Interfaith marriage in Judaism, which is more specific, so I then changed the link to point there. I hope you don't have a problem with that. StevenJ81 (talk) 16:43, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi StevenJ81 - absolutely not, more specificity is always better. Thanks for the polite note. Onel5969 TT me 22:50, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Charles V European Award

I did my best in order to improve the page following your suggestions. Please tell me if now it's ok--PrinceMy (talk) 22:43, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

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American film stubs

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New Page Reviewer Newsletter

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Deprodding of Our Lady of Fatima Church, Kirol

I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}} tag from Our Lady of Fatima Church, Kirol, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add {{proposed deletion}} back to the file. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks!

Movie Stub

Aha. An adequate movie stub. (See recent ruckus at AN.) Robert McClenon (talk) 14:58, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Robert McClenon. My rule of thumb is never to make a stub simply to make a stub. On many of the geo stubs I've created they will never go beyond stub status, although some might make it to start. There's simply not enough on line information to expand them. I create them to get rid of redlinks on other projects I'm working on (like the list of places in Arizona). Regarding film and film bio stubs, it's the same thing, I create them to get rid of redlinks on other articles I created (usually in filmographies, or cast lists). However, my intent is to bring each one of them up to at least start level, and to expand them as far as they can go up to B status. Occasionally I'll take one to GA. But on the stub level, I try to make them at least somewhat informational. Folks that simply write a line or two (with or without citation), are simply folks who are "counting coups". Thanks again. Onel5969 TT me 16:23, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
I'm referring to an editor who was creating sub-stubs on movies that only named the movie and didn't even name the actors. That editor was blocked three times, most recently indefinitely. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:39, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Avondale - Pendergast school district

I noticed you deleted my edit to the Avondale AZ wiki page. Not sure why. The Pendergast District has at least 3 schools in Avondale. Erspinner (talk) 23:50, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

The edit summary was pretty clear, it was uncited.Onel5969 TT me 23:53, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Draft:Amshan Kumar

Dear Onel5969 , The page (Draft:Amshan Kumar) has been edited again . I couldn't find any references in English language for the second paragraph . I have deleted the second paragraph for now , I will add them back once I get the translations with sources on the web . Hope this edit will help the article to be approved . Thanks for your help . (User_talk:Rajeevanand) —Preceding undated comment added 09:38, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Nice job Rajeevanand, moved it to mainspace. Onel5969 TT me 19:53, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

"List of the prehistoric life of [US State]" articles

Is this for real? Fifty articles of lists that are automatically generated? What conceivable purpose could they serve a reader? I made a PROD for Delaware, pointing out that WP lists are not a good format for downloading to use for other purposes. The user would need to go to fossilworks.org anyway. The response was that fossilworks was not for laymen. Am I barking up the wrong tree? Are we going to have a half a meg of pages no one uses? Calm me down down please ... or join me. Rhadow (talk) 19:32, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Rhadow - lol. Okay, calm down. I don't think they are computer generated. The editor who created them has quite a bit of experience. I do think he uses a template (which I do as well on different types of articles: film, film bios, historical buildings, etc. When I went over them, they weren't identical, although they did include a lot of the same entries... but that's the point of a template. My issue was the use of placeholder images left in place for weeks on end, which are completely unneccesary. That, and the fact that the articles were very sloppy regarding disambiguation links. I think you'd be wasting your time attempting to delete them, as they appear to pass wp:nlist, even if they are very rudimentary and scantily sourced. I think you can put your efforts to better use elsewhere. Just my thoughts. Onel5969 TT me 19:58, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
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