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Archive 40: March 2017

Deleted my page

I appreciate you highlighting the fact that our company's wiki page is in violation of guidelines on promotional content. I'm happy to adjust as appropriate. However I see that you've deleted the page, without taking what would seem to be the more professional and community-spirited act of actually *communicating* your concern with the author.

Can you message me and let me know how to retrieve the page so that it can properly be revised to meet guidelines? And while you're there can you advise me on your authority? 2601:646:8580:A468:4513:4FEF:AA63:1533 (talk) 06:13, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Since I don't know what page you're talking about, I can't be more specific, but when you go to the page title, it should bring up a notice that a page by that name was deleted. In that notice should be directions on how to recover the deleted draft. A few things, first, a word of advice: being insulting is never a good way to get folks to help you. Second, please read WP:COI - you should not be involved in writing an article on a company you're involved with. Third, read WP:NCORP, WP:GNG, and WP:CORPDEPTH. Onel5969 TT me 11:23, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

15:26:28, 1 March 2017 review of submission by LARZZE

{{SAFESUBST:Void| User:onel5969 I was creating a new page, an admin deleted my page by saying that page already exists. I have just come to check this is posted by someone else and you declined due to notability issues. Please check it now, I have made editing in the page and posted all notable references. All references are verifiable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Zaki_Ameer Please approve it now.

Hi LARZZE - Sorry, but it's a highly promotional article which is most likely going to be deleted. Articles need to have a neutral point of view, no commentary. WP:CITEKILL doesn't help an article either, it actually hurts, since editors think that the article's creator is trying to shore up a weak case of notability. I'd get rid of all PR pieces (like the 1st three references you use), any interviews, any references which are by Ameer, rather than about him. Few editors are going to wade through the numerous irrelevant sources you've included. Onel5969 TT me 11:17, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steve Lacy (musician)

Hello Onel5969, I am contacting you to ask what else I would need to change about the article in order to withdraw it from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steve Lacy (musician). Two other users have made contributions to improve the article. Please let me know as soon as you can, as I do not want the article to be deleted. Thank you in advance. Bmegrl9113 (talk) 07:39, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

I have redirected the article to The Internet (band), but like I said, let me know what else I would have to do to improve the article so that it won't be deleted. Thanks again. Bmegrl9113 (talk) 09:13, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi Bmegrl9113 - It's a tad late for that. The time for this discussion was prior to it going to AfD, rather than simply edit-warring about making it a redirect. Once at AfD, as the template says, the article cannot be blanked (which is what making it a redirect does). To show notability, you must have several in-depth references from reliable, independent sources. Right now you have none. Twitter, YouTube (along with other sites like Facebook, imdb, and others), and Fader are not reliable sites. In addition, interviews are primary sources, and can't be used to show notability. References like the xxlmag are simply mentions, and don't go to notability. References like that are good to validate assertions made in the article, but don't help notability status. Regarding the AfD notice, it has to run it's course now. Sorry. Onel5969 TT me 11:12, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Okay that's fine. I haven't been able to find any articles on him from sources that would be considered reliable, so it's best that the article be deleted. Bmegrl9113 (talk) 11:15, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

how to make notable show me an example

how to make notable show me an example Dear Sir/Madam: 

    Can you please show me an example article for my reference.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karthik1998civil (talk • contribs) 11:34, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

محمد حيدر

Hi there, I notice you tagged the above article for deletion under CSD A1. Note that this criteria specifically excludes non-English material, such as this article. In this case, it seems to be a coherent Arabic language biography of a politician, which I've logged instead at Wikipedia:Pages needing translation into English in the hopes that someone who knows Arabic better than I do can come along and salvage something from it. I know you're a good curator generally, so keep up the good work! Lankiveil (speak to me) 13:24, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Lankiveil - my translate program didn't reveal enough for me to understand that. Onel5969 TT me 14:03, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
No drama. Often it's a bit of a guessing game, even using Google Translate! Lankiveil (speak to me) 14:17, 3 March 2017 (UTC).

Deletion request on the Kendra Timmins page

Hello! The actress meets the criteria of notoriety, the article is poorly formulated, practically an advertisement, I will reformulate. I'm new to Wikipedia, if you can help me thank you. Thanks! --Mitofire (talk) 14:52, 3 March 2017 (UTC)Mitofire Mitofire (talk) 14:52, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Copy Editing of article Louis A. Perrotta

Hello You have recently Wrote i have to copy edit the article Louis A. Perrotta Can you tell me how can i solbe this issue Sawongam (talk) 16:06, 3 March 2017 (UTC) 

Sawongam (talk) 16:06, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
Please note the issue here. Karst (talk) 16:14, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks Karst - Duly noted. Nice catch. Onel5969 TT me 16:15, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Ahad Raza Mir

Hello Onel5969,

Recently you tagged Ahad Raza Mir for deletion and mentioned that i should not delete the section from the top. I have updated the article with work and training section with some references. Can you verify the article for removing the deletion tag.

Thanks, SaqibK (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:26, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi SaqibK - First, when you leave a comment on a talk page (either a user's or an article's), please remember to "sign" it with four tildes (~~~~). Now about your article, I'm sorry to say she simply does not pass notability criteria. You can look at what those guidelines are at WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. She clearly doesn't meet the latter, and I can't find enough in-depth sources from independent reliable sources (which also have to go beyond merely local coverage) to show she passes the former.Onel5969 TT me 11:53, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Why

Why are you trying to delete content that I make for characters of the upcoming game Mass Effect Andromeda? Cal3b k1ng (talk) 18:29, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi Cal3b k1ng - Because they are not notable by WP standards. Onel5969 TT me 18:44, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

U.S Vote Foundation

I think I see what you intend to do: CSD this article and then rename US Vote Foundation to include two periods in "U.S".? Fiachra10003 (talk) 02:50, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi Fiachra10003 - This foundation used to be called Overseas Vote Foundation, but was rebranded and renamed the U.S. Vote Foundation in 2012. The redirect needs to be deleted, and then the current page, named Overseas Vote Foundation needs to be moved to the current name of the redirect. US Vote Foundation needs to remain a redirect, since the formal name of the foundation includes the periods (U.S. Vote Foundation). Onel5969 TT me 02:55, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Draft:Apolline de Malherbe

All potentially contentious claims are now referenced: many of the footnotes I added are repeated references, with a couple of new ones. Thanks for checking my draft - if there's anything else that needs doing to it, just leave a comment. Thanks, Quasar G. (talk) 17:05, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi Quasar G. - nice job. Moved it to mainspace. Onel5969 TT me 17:40, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for reviewing "Ligier JS2"

Hello Onel5969:

Thank you for reviewing the draft of "Ligier JS2" that I had submitted as an AfC. This is the first article I've had accepted. As someone who's only recently started editing I appreciate the feedback. It's the first I've heard about the rating system.

Kumboloi (talk) 21:53, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Deleted Analytic Solver Page

Please help me see how it was different then Gurobi, ModeFRONTIER, ModeFRONTIER, or even Microsoft Excel. There are many software products listed on wikipedia. I would like to make it work, I just don't understand what was wrong with it. Just so you know it is important to me because it's made by a company Frontline Systems Inc. in my hometown Incline Village, NV. I place where most people only think of tourism but I think it's important to show the other things that have come from Lake Tahoe. Thank you, TahoeBob (talk) 17:43, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi TahoeBob - Since it's been deleted I can't look at it and tell you exactly. However, I do remember that it was written simply as a brochure for the product, with a list of features and what it could do. That's simply promotional, which is the reason it was deleted. While it's good to look at other articles, be careful of them. WP is run by volunteers, so there's going to be some articles which slip by, I'll take a look at those others. That's an argument called other stuff exists. But take a look at WP:GNG to see what constitutes notability. Onel5969 TT me 17:58, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
Why delete first then? Could you at least asked a question on my user talk page be for flagging? Or given me some hints on how to make it better. Most edits I've done before have been small and anonymous I'm just trying to participate more with something that interests me. The page was a work in progress I was trying to build it up and was needing some help from friends who also used the software in college. How did you decide to pick my page for deletion? You only did so an hour ago can you help me understand more of what you think you saw? Best regards, TahoeBob (talk) 18:11, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi again. Because, in my experience, that is usually a waste of time. While you would have responded, dozens of others would have been ignored. I didn't delete the article, merely flagged it as promotional. You can request from the admin who deleted it to restore it to draftspace, where you can work on it. I might also suggest you take it through the Articles for Creation process, which can be frustrating, but you'll get input from experienced editors before moving it to the mainspace. Onel5969 TT me 18:27, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice, I've reached out to the admin who deleted it. TahoeBob (talk) 18:34, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

National Weather Service Quad Cities

Why did you delete the article I created for the National Weather Service in the Quad Cities, and redirect the link for it to the main article on the National Weather Service? --Kansan in Iowa (talk) 02:36, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Kansan in Iowa - Hi. Simply because it doesn't meet Wikipedia's notability criteria. Very rarely will a local branch of an organization, or a governmental entity, will achieve notability on its own. Simply because something exists doesn't make it notable. The article was well done, simply didn't meet the criteria. Onel5969 TT me 11:29, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
That doesn't make sense, considering other NWS offices have their own articles. How is NWS Topeka, KS, for example, more notable than NWS Quad Cities? Why does NWS Topeka get its own article and not NWS Quad Cities? --Kansan in Iowa (talk) 14:01, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thank you

Kurdistantolive (talk) 17:24, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

I Was

I reverted I Was and some of the other Neal McCoy songs because "Songs that do not rise to notability for an independent article should redirect to another relevant article, such as for the songwriter, a prominent album or for the artist who prominently performed the song." If You Can't Be Good (Be Good at It) at least got a review in Billboard which gives the article a little more meat, but I could find no such thing for any of the other songs I redirected. They may have charted, but #35 on the country charts is barely a blip on the radar, unless it's a song that gained notoriety some other way (e.g. The Bumper of My SUV). Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 17:33, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

Cool TenPoundHammer. Thanks for taking the time to explain your rationale. I reverted you, since songs like that (even #35 on the Country chart), usually get a "keep" at AfD. I just kept seeing them at the new articles queue every time the ip reverted you. But understanding your thinking now, I'll certainly let it lie. Take care. Onel5969 TT me 22:51, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

Maya Chinchilla

Deprodding of Maya Chinchilla

I have removed the {{prod}} tag from Maya Chinchilla, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks!

Ronald Jones II

Ronald Jones II will almost go on in NFL after his career at USC, he will already have his page for his future professional career. Also it is the tailback starter for USC for the coming season. J'ai pris le même modèle que les autres pages de joueurs football NCAA. In addition, the links of the page are the links that relate to that person. RCFrance (talk) 02:44, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi RCFrance - That's all cool. Still doesn't pass WP:NCOLLATH. Onel5969 TT me 02:57, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Ronald Jones II breaks USC Freshman Rushing Record . In the WP:NCOLLATH : Gained national media attention as an individual. With the Record. Examples :

RCFrance (talk) 03:08, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Kibuye Hope Hospital

Thank you so much for your feedback on the Kibuye Hope Hospital article I submitted. I really appreciate the time you took to review it carefully. I had started with 8 references and then pared it down as they seemed to draw from each other, but I can look for more original source material. Thanks again, Greyfalcon33 (talk) 18:29, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

The Masked Magician

Can you explain me why did you restore (rollback) my editing on The Masked Magician? Thank you. gigho (talk) 23:16, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Onel5969. You have new messages at Talk:Orbit Airlines.
Message added 23:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Oddbodz - (Talk) (Contribs) 23:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Oak ck

Just as a FYI, I opened a SPI, here. Cheers, --bonadea contributions talk 11:43, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi Bonadea - was just checking it out. Thanks. Onel5969 TT me 11:44, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Your deletion request for RoPeCast

Hi, there.

Could you shortly explain how you evaluate the Saarland state award for higher education as not notable? It is awarded by the government of a federal state of Germany.

Apart from that WP:WEB does not state the award needs to be "notable" it says "well-known" and "independent". The award is well-known and has been awarded for more than a decade. Apart from that there is the notability through secondary references, and news papers and radio stations have reported about it.

I would kindly ask you to reconsider, and I'm going to provide the other secondary references (radio ...)--chris 論 12:06, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi Chrkl - I would argue that "well-known" is even a higher standard than notable. Notability on WP means that there exist enough in-depth sourcing about a subject to create an article on WP. There are many articles which meet notability criteria which are not well-known. The award is a regional educational award. I searched for references online for both RoPeCast and Saarland state award for higher education, and came up with virtually nothing. I hope that helps explain it. If you can source it better, of course it would be reconsidered, but please remember that the sourcing needs to be in-depth (not simply mentions), and from independent, reliable sources. It's prodded, which means that no action will be taken on it for seven days. Feel free to ask me to have another look at it. And remember, it's a prod, so you can contest it at any point (although, to be honest, I'd probably request an AfD discussion at that point). Onel5969 TT me 12:13, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for your explanations. Let me address your arguments in the order you presented them...
  • I think the wording "well-known" was chosen intentionally not to re-use the notion to be defined "notability" or "notable". I thus consider it a Wikipedia-independent criterion and in no way higher or lower than these standards, but unrelated and having the semantic flexibility needed for its various applications throughout the notability guidelines. Otherwise its use would introduce a circular logic.
  • Furthermore you cannot apply Wikipedia's notability criteria to the award in order to judge the notability of the phenomenon in question. That would be introducing an inheritance dependency that is explicitly excluded in the guidelines (although the examples given work in a descendent fashion, I think this rule must hold in an inverted manner as well in order to be coherent).
  • A regional award... Any award issued by any federally-organised subordinate entity is by definition regional. Would you argue the same way if it was the state of California that awarded the prize? And if you make a difference there, would that in turn be more notable then a prize awarded by the state of Rhode Island? I think that's an unjustified focus on 'body size' not to mention any parts thereof ;-)
  • Secondly how can anything language-related not be regional? As an offer to learners of English as a foreign language it is very unlikely that "well-known" can ever stretch to large areas of the world in an 'un-regional' fashion, namely those speaking English natively.
  • With respect to your search for references ... No offense, but don't you think the "google it" approach is a tad to simplistic and superficial to be a decision criterion here, even if we are dealing with an online publication as the lemma? Have you for example considered that a prize awarded by a German executive organ is very unlikely to officially carry an English name? Do me the favour and compare to a search for Landespreis für Hochschullehre Saarland. Any search engine should be a lot more obliging if you use the appropriate search terms. ;-)
To summarise, I will not dispute the request for deletion, if I can't convince you. I have been working with the Wikipedia community long enough to have a realistic judgement of my chances, as an occasional contributor to the English branch, in an official nomination for deletion by a well-networked and active author. German Wikipedia, its rigorous approach to notability and its 'professional deleters' have taught me that lesson beyond any need for updates. --chris 論 14:08, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
Well it's disappointing that you don't deem the arguments worth another reply. --chris 論 08:47, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Help with page name change for Aquaculture Engineering

Hello, I am in the process of updating the entry for Aquaculture engineering. I think the common English wording for this page should actually be Aquacultural Engineering. Similar to Agricultural or Mechanical Engineering. I don't see a way to change the name without submitting a new article for entry under the name Aquacultural Engineering and perhaps requesting the page for Aquaculture Engineering be deleted? Thank you for the help. - AndyyParadise (talk) 02:42, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi AndyyParadise - Once you have enough edits on record, you can "move" articles. Which simply means correct their titles. I agree with you on how the title should read, so I've done that for you. Nice work. Onel5969 TT me 14:16, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi!

We seem to be working on the same part of the New Pages feed. LOL! ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 15:32, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi ONUnicorn - yup, lol. And what's up THE IMPERIOUS DORK? Just came across the 2nd of these types of incorrect page naming. Onel5969 TT me 15:34, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
I saw that too. I don't know. Might be worth taking a look at some of the rest of his contributions. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 15:36, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Agreed. He's been editing since 2012, so he's not a newbie... Onel5969 TT me 15:37, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi again ONUnicorn - I just checked out about 20 of his more recent edits... they all look fine. Onel5969 TT me 15:47, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, just those two. I left a note on his talkpage; but I'm not sure how much use he makes of it. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 15:53, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:LiveCargoPoster.jpg

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Burmese font

Hello! I think your browser or machine doesn't support Burmese Unicode characters. I just added the name of the town in Burmese. Would you like to check the pages that used the template {{my}} or {{lang-my}}? Is all of the inputs are showing as boxes? If so, you should install some Unicode font as MyanmarText that support Burmese characters. Ninja✮Strikers «☎» 18:09, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion (Zewar and Kamaran Mukeri)

HI Onel5969, wait don't delete this articles

this articles for kurdish famous poets in Iraqi Kurdistan really . I do not have any references for english but just have I kurdish language reference.

I hope you understand me and help me

Thank you.

Kurdistantolive (talk) 16:54, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Said Sadiq

Said Sadiq is a small city in north Iraq , you can see in the google map Kurdistantolive (talk) 16:59, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Deprodding of Towradgi Public School

I have removed the {{prod}} tag from Towradgi Public School, which you proposed for deletion, because its deletion has previously been contested or viewed as controversial. Proposed deletion is not for controversial deletions. For this reason, proposed deletion is disallowed on articles that have previously been de-{{prod}}ed, even by the article creator, or which have previously been listed on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to the article, but feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 02:13, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi Ks0stm - Can you point me to the previous prod? Only the article's creator and KylieTastic had edited the article. Neither prodded it. Onel5969 TT me 02:15, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
Sure. The article was previously deleted by PROD on April 25, 2015. Unfortunately, even though it was deleted via that PROD, the fact that it was recreated after that PROD precludes it's renomination for deletion via PROD, and it has to go to AfD. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 02:22, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the head's up Ks0stm. Any way I could've (or should've) seen that? When you removed the prod I had a suspicion it was something like that.Onel5969 TT me 02:26, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
No worries; it's not like the deletion log is readily visible except as "View or restore X deleted edits" in the history view (or is that even visible to non-admins?). Either way, you'd have to go looking for it specifically to see it, so I'm not surprised you didn't notice; that's why we admins are supposed to check before going through with the deletion. I myself didn't even notice until I saw the deletion log on the deletion interface when I went to delete the page. =P Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 02:49, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification, Ks0stm. No, I can't see that, but again, thanks. Onel5969 TT me 03:48, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Cultural eutrophication

There is a page for this. Cultural Eutrophication. DocTox (talk) 17:30, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Should be part of the Eutrophication page. Makes no sense to break it out. Onel5969 TT me 21:36, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Overlinking

Hi, thanks for your work. Please don't link terms such as "United States", "marriage", etc. See WP:MOSLINK. My best. Tony (talk) 05:26, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi Tony1 - Thanks for the heads up. When I started on those geo articles, I simply copied from an existing article, and then, unfortunately, have continued to simply copy the same issue over and over. Will correct the template I use. Onel5969 TT me 15:45, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

About the Kashiyatra Page

Kashiyatra is a college fest and I don't think it should redirect to the Institute's page. Fests have their own page. Is there anything wrong with the article. If it is so, let me know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deepak Singhanwal (talk • contribs) 07:25, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi Deepak Singhanwal - it has no independent notability on its own. Onel5969 TT me 11:55, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Ronald Jones

Based on the sources linked at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ronald Jones II, the article appears to be a clear WP:GNG pass. Thought you might want to consider withdrawing it? Cbl62 (talk) 23:37, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Seeking clarification on "deleted" article

Hi! Am a new author trying to add further distinction to a topic ("file/folder encryption"). The article was rejected with the comment "Article on this subject already exists - please improve the existing article". Am not certain, but my reading of the comment indicates that the "file and folder encryption" article should be contained within the article "Filesystem-level_encryption". If this understanding is correct, am seeking to understand why "file and folder encryption" should be contained within "Filesystem-level_encryption" and not within other similar articles, including full disk encryption or database encryption, or even within potentially new articles on partition encryption, volume encryption or device-based encryption? Each of these types of encryption is capable of encrypting files, and except for database encryption that is their primary function. By adding this content, am trying to help clarify the distinction among the technologies used to encrypt "data at rest", as well as to help demonstrate the reasons for these differing technologies, and thus expand the currently available content. Of course, if the comment is indicating something else, please advise.

This clarification request refers to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File/folder_encryption&action=history

Thanks! User93454235 (talk) 16:08, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi User93454235 - First, let me say that I am no expert in this field, therefore I have to be guided by the information included in the articles. When reading the two articles, it appears that they represent very similar, if not identical concepts. Therefore, the information should all be contained in a single article. The newer material is more well-written than the existing material, but Wikipedia policy is pretty clear that the older article should be improved. Second, if there are other articles, which are also similar, the best result is perhaps a WP:MERGE discussion, wherein an overall comprehensive article could be written, which, imho, would be in the best interest of anyone using Wikipedia researching these topics. When an article reaches a certain length, then that becomes a time when certain segments are broken off and covered in more detail in their own articles. (For an example, take a look at almost any "city" article, Phoenix, Arizona is an example, and there are sections which have become so long, they have been split off into their own articles. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 12:36, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi, and thanks for your helpful and comprehensive response to my question! Am very glad to read your comment "it appears that they represent very similar, if not identical concepts". That comment indicates that the newer article that I created does not sufficiently explain the differences. ;) Also, I agree with your comment of "an overall comprehensive article could be written” - in fact this has begun with both Encryption_layer_in_storage_stack and Encryption_software. Though they may need to be merged and/or reworked somewhat, each of these articles lend support to the proposed article. So, while I wholeheartedly agree with the Wikipedia policy that older content should be improved, my contention is that these forms of encryption are different - namely because the software products are 1) are applied at different layers in the storage stack, and 2) are not able to be used at different layers for which they were not designed - per the current Wikipedia articles referenced. One factor that may be leading you to believe that the current and proposed pages are "similar, if not identical" is the product from Microsoft that is called the Encrypting "File System" (EFS). As the first line in the EFS article states that EFS is a "feature" within the actual file system - NTFS, it's clear that EFS itself is not a file system. Further, with EFS the file/directory encryption is enabled by the user via Windows explorer, in this respect it seems more like a Windows application and not a file system - much like copying or moving a file within Explorer is not a file system. That's why I included EFS within the file/folder article and not the file system article. Thanks for your kind comment on the quality of the article I submitted, and also for the opportunity to help create content on Wikipedia! User93454235 (talk) 15:04, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi again User93454235. Okay, totally beyond my competency level with this subject. Might I suggest you talk to the good folks over at Wikipedia:WikiProject Computing. Welcome to Wikipedia. Onel5969 TT me 15:09, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

About the Page Karry Wang's deletion

Hi Onel5969, I am wondering why there should be a notability problem about Karry Wang's page. Because actually he has a lot concrete evident proofing his notability these years, and also the other two of his members in TFBOYS both have there personal page on Wiki, if it is about the policy that an artist belonged to a group should have reverted to the group page before they have enough solo activities, then the other two members personal page should have been reverted as well. I really hope that you can go through this page again and if there should be more proofs for Karry Wang's notability, please help me to get this right. Thank you very much!KARRYCRAB (talk) 06:04, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi KARRYCRAB - That's an argument which is called other stuff exists, which isn't really a valid argument in this instance. What you need to show Wang's notability are in-depth articles about him, and him alone, not in relation to the band, which come from independent reliable sources. Interviews, being primary sources, don't count. Neither do press releases or information from fan magazines. Also, on a different note, your username might reflect a connection to the subject of the article. If indeed that is the case, please review WP:COI. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 12:43, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
I see. So according to WP:COI, it's better I should not edit this page directly, but to require on discussion page for others to do. Is this correct? About the in-depth articles about him alone, I am wondering does a official record on the Guinness World Record count? He has received a record for the most reposts on social media of his account, and here is the article from Guinness Website: http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/news/2015/6/lead-singer-wang-junkai-of-chinese-boyband-tfboys-gets-record-breaking-number-of-386087 . Also, if I better not edit it by my self, then can I ask for your help on editing?KARRYCRAB (talk) 05:44, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thanks for reviewing my pages! I know a lot are still in stub/start form, they'll be improved over time. I noticed you put tags for more inline citations required on the pages where a history of the library system was included. My question: if there was only one source about the library's history how might you suggest finding more citations to supplement the section? I appreciate your help! SEMMENDINGER (talk) 13:50, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi Semmendinger - Thanks for your work. I have no problems with stub or very short articles. Sometimes that's all you can find on the internet. Lord knows I've written more than my fair share of stubs (mostly geo articles, about very small populated places – but I feel strongly about the gazetteer component of Wikipedia). Your articles make it easy on a reviewer: well written, well structured, well formatted. So thank you for your diligence.
Regarding sourcing, other editors may disagree, but my rule of thumb is that every paragraph which asserts a fact should be footnoted. Sometimes it is simply re-using the existing source, which is acceptable. You also might try newspapers.com. You might find some sources there. If you do use Newspapers (which I use all the time), check out Wikipedia:Newspapers.com. Good luck and keep up the good work. Onel5969 TT me 13:55, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
I appreciate your kind words. I have really enjoyed trying to establish some semblance of uniformity among the articles I create, so I'm glad you find the formatting pleasing! A follow up question, and one thing I struggled with while making the page. You said each paragraph should be footnoted, and I'm inclined to agree, but is it overkill to have, say, eight paragraphs in a row with the same footnote? Or is that just being diligent? I'd be interested to hear what you think - and in the meantime I'll make use of that source, thank you! SEMMENDINGER (talk) 14:01, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Phoenix, Arizona

I did not intend to revert your reversion here. I don't know what happened. I was looking at a different change. Not sure if I made a mistake or it was some technical bug. Thanks for fixing. MB 17:56, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi MB - no worries. I almost always find myself in agreement with your edits, so it's unusual when I feel the need to make a correction. Take care. Onel5969 TT me 19:11, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Draft:The Valiants

See new title. The notability of the group is not questioned in Philadelphia, nor in the PFD, see new cites from the archives of the city council recognizing 50 years, or the museum recognizing the city's first AA Commissioner. Maybe you're seeing this from the perspective that doesn't allow for such groups similar to the shomrim or hibernians, could it be the lack of parade pics?CaptJayRuffins (talk) 14:02, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

No, I'm seeing it from the perspective of failing WP:GNG and WP:ORGDEPTH. Onel5969 TT me 19:01, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you so much for your contribution to WP:SPEAK!! I listened to your recording for Miracle on 34th Street and it was absolutely perfect, there wasn't any long pauses or mistakes. Keep up the good work and if you have any questions, feel free to ask on our project's talk page or on my talk page. Thanks, again and have a nice day/night :) ThatGirlTayler (talk) 16:21, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks ThatGirlTayler, took me a few days to figure out how to use Audacity. But now that I have a rudimentary knowledge of it, I'll record from time to time. I only found out about this project by chance, another editor put a request on one of the pages on my watchlist. Is there a list somewhere of articles which need to be recorded? If one catches my fancy, I'll take care of it. Onel5969 TT me 19:15, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
Yes, there is a request page at Category:Spoken Wikipedia requests . Thanks, again!!! ThatGirlTayler (talk) 19:26, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

Miracle on 34th St.

Nice Job! Thank you for recording the article! It sounds amazing, and now the article for the iconic film has a spoken version!

~~Lionsdude148~~

Lionsdude148 (talk) 02:42, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Pastor López page

Howdy,

I read your proposal for deletion of the Pastor López wiki, and have since added citations, and removed content that I could not find references for. I'm relatively new to the community, and did completely understand the rules regarding biographies of living people, and will read up a bit more on appropriate citaion.

Cheers, Dmerker (talk) 06:39, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

No worried, Dmerker - that's a perfunctory tag that I put on bios of living people when I can't easily find a citation. Since it's cited now, that no longer applies. However, still might not meet notability criteria. Take a look at WP:GNG, and in this case WP:MUSICBIO. Good luck. Onel5969 TT me 12:18, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
I was able to track down some interviews he did on TV. He was more relevant in the 70's and 80's than he is today, but sources from that era in Latin America are hard to come by. Do you have any other suggestions for how I can prove he is relevant? He has pages in Spanish and German, and a number of his songs are staples for latin DJs and widely identifiable by Latinos of multiple generations. Dmerker (talk) 02:34, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi Dmerker - foreign language sources are perfectly acceptable. Please remember to put the language= parameter in the citation. Have you tried looking him up on Google Books? Beware of using YouTube references, they are not reliable. I sympathize with your difficulty in referencing. Believe it or not, I have the same difficulty with sourcing American films of the 1950s. I think you've reached the notability threshold, but don't stop looking. Another 1 or 2 in-depth sources wouldn't hurt. Onel5969 TT me 02:45, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
I think the page should stay.

Lionsdude148 (talk)

Help with Maritz, LLC article

Hello! On behalf of Maritz, LLC, I'm trying to update the company's Wikipedia article. I've submitted an edit request here and posted requests for help at WikiProject Companies, the Articles for Creation help desk, WikiProject United States, and the talk pages of several individual Wikipedia editors, but so far no one has responded to the edit request to add a corporate overview section and information about Maritz's current and former subsidiaries.

I've proposed text for the article here. I realize this is a proposed article expansion, and not an Articles for Creation submission, but this major addition to the article is similar to an Articles for Creation review, so I'm reaching out to a few Articles for Creation participants, such as yourself, to see if someone will review the proposed addition for accuracy and neutrality. Is this something you might be able to help with? If you are not interested, that's okay, I'm just not sure where else to ask for help for the edit request I submitted over a month ago. Thanks! MadisonfromStanding (talk) 15:50, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Why did you delete my article?

I created an article (Alva "Gunny" Bricker) on one of the cast of the TV Series Major Dad and was in the process of adding more details to this as well as other similar articles however before I could do this you deleted it with no warning or thorough explanation. Again I would ask why did you deleted my article especially when there are others of less 'notability' and substance as found under other TV Series articles. I would appreciate your feedback and restoring the page if you wouldn't mind. I am new to editing but aim to do things as thoroughly and respectfully as possible and would appreciate the same in return. Thanks Doctordrew (talk) 05:28, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi Doctordrew - Just because a character exists, and may even be popular, doesn't mean that they pass notability criteria. The fact that other articles exist about potentially non-notable characters is an argument called WP:OSE (other stuff exists), and isn't valid in this instance. For something to be notable, they must be discussed in-depth in several sources. This doesn't mean plot discussions, or tv listings. Unfortunately, there isn't a specific guideline for fictional characters. You might go through the Articles for Creation process (WP:AFC), where experienced editors can help you through the process. You can also ask specific questions at the Wikipedia:Teahouse. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 11:31, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
One other thing, your username may violate our username policy, see WP:REALNAME, since it is the stage name of a famous person. You should probably select another one, and then ask an admin to change it for you. Onel5969 TT me 11:34, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Zinaida Gilels

Hi Onel5969. Thank you for letting me know about your proposal for deletion of my article on Zinaida Gilels on the grounds of no notability. I've added some info to the article and I hope that it's now meeting the criteria of notability. There are not much info about this professor exist online, as it seems that no one cared to put it there. Although she was pretty impactful in the music world. Thank you again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gemi315 (talk • contribs) 08:48, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Deletion objection

Dear Onel5969, please do not delete the articles on Indian Army Officers who have been killed in action during the Insurgency in Jammu and Kashmir. They are highly respected in India. Pawan Kumar (Indian Army Officer) and Tushar Mahajan were killed during the 2016 Pampore stand-off, they were both leading the operation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Somrajsistece (talk • contribs) 15:26, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

A cheeseburger for you!

Recording

File:En-Miracle on 34th Street-article.ogg

must have made you hungry. Here you go!

Lionsdude148 Lionsdude148 (talk) 02:08, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Addition to page - List of Film Festivals

I want to add United Nations Association Film Festival on the Wikipedia page "List_of_film_festivals". But I saw that it got deleted after I made the change. Can you please let me know what is the issue and how the information should be added.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by SumitKGarg (talk • contribs) 00:49, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Giuseppe Soda

Hi Onel5969, you proposed the deletion of Giuseppe Soda. You were right because I didn't put any reference :). I just made some changes and added a few references, how can I know if it's okay now? (I know it can always be and will be improved!) Guyapetta (talk) 09:56, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Hijack Bigpond

Please dont hijack that page for Telstra Media. Discussion on article's talk. Almost none of that article relates to Telstra Media. Thanks RogerM1975 (talk) 20:35, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Article was merged. Please discontinue to your disruptive editing. Onel5969 TT me 21:27, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Institut d'étude des questions juives

Based on my understanding of italics policy for foreign expressions, I've reverted your change at Institut d'étude des questions juives. If there's something I'm missing, please revert back, and link to a policy in the ES.

Your explanation in the edit summary for your removal of {{italic title}} was "per mos". But that was unhelpful; there are many MOS policies and pages, and your edit summary did not link to any of them. I was not able to find a policy that supported your edit.

What I was able to find about it is this: this: Use italics for phrases in other languages and for isolated foreign words that are not common in everyday English.. The title of this article is not common in everyday English. There's also this, at MOS:FOREIGNITALIC: Wikipedia prefers italics for phrases in other languages and for isolated foreign words that do not yet have everyday use in non-specialized English. Use the native spellings if they use the Latin alphabet (with or without diacritics)—otherwise Anglicize their spelling. This applies to French, so I've used the original spelling, italicized.

While we're at it: on the same article, you added two hats, {{More footnotes}} and {{Refimprove}}. These are both appropriate, thank you. You beat me to it, since my last edit was a day ago. You'll also notice I haven't yet placed the required {{Translated}} note on the Talk page, as required for attribution. That's because I'm still reviewing the translation. Mathglot (talk) 03:10, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Mathglot - Italics should not be used in article titles, except for when it is the title of work (e.g. book or film). When referring to the term, you may italicize it, but when it is the name of an institute, it should not be italicized. For example, I write articles on populated places. Some come from a foreign language. When I state the name of the location, it is not italicized, but when I talk about the term from which the name comes, then I italicize the term. See WP:ITALICTITLE. Hope that helps. Onel5969 TT me 03:14, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

[edit conflict]

I understand what you are saying, but I can't find the policy for it, and I suspect many others can't, either. Many, many articles which have foreign phrases in the title are italicized, and they're probably interpreting the guidelines the same way as I am. If you're correct about this, then at least two policy pages need to be changed, not to mention hundreds or thousands of articles. Mathglot (talk) 03:20, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
The policy you link to supports my view. Mathglot (talk) 03:22, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Yardbirds

I'm curious why you removed the Page I created for "Train Kept A-Rollin' – The Complete Giorgio Gomelsky Productions?"

albabe - The Writer/Artist Formally Known as Al Gordon 19:34, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

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