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Szia! Látom, nem foglalkoztál azzal, amit a szerköfbe írtam. Ha már benne van a cikkben ez a sztori, legalább olyan forrást adjál meg hozzá, ami összhangban van vele. Ez az Index-cikk a legelső, ami az ügy kapcsán megjelent, ebben még semmi szó nem esett szexről, a videó később jelent meg a blogon. Több felelősséggel kellene a cikkeket szerkeszteni. Többet nem vonom vissza, feltéve, hogy megfelelő forrást mellékelsz. --Regasterios (talk) 17:11, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

Látom, közben megtetted. Köszönöm. --Regasterios (talk) 17:12, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

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I am sorry. Thank you! --Norden1990 (talk) 16:44, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

GOCE copyedit request for Lucas, Archbishop of Esztergom

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Changed template to show that the copyedit request has been completed. --Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝) 06:16, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your work! --Norden1990 (talk) 09:24, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Central Cafe

Hi Norden1990, I wanted to thank you for corrections to Central Cafe. I would appreciate if you would be willing to add more. I was hoping on having it become a Good Article. Pratat (talk) 14:40, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Khust Raion

Hi,

the article's history section was just created. It seems a copy-paste from another language artificially translated, I corrected a few errors, but cannot decipher what is Vyshkovsky castle and the Mick and Istvan Chepa of the Gunt-Pazman family, but I sure you'll manage. Please clarify and/or link properly. Thx(KIENGIR (talk) 23:30, 29 April 2020 (UTC))

@KIENGIR:, fixed (per Engel's archontology). --Norden1990 (talk) 09:42, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

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Thank you for the information, the works he uploaded there will certainly be helpful, even for other articles. Tezwoo (talk) 18:34, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

George Floyd

Hey, Norden1990. I'm concerned about your edit characterizing this subject primarily as a 'rapper and convicted criminal', which while true are very clearly not at all what this person is notable for. What was your thinking? —valereee (talk) 20:37, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

This person is not notable at all. His death and its consequences are notable only. --Norden1990 (talk) 20:59, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Hungarian historical atlas

Do you happen to know of a modern historical atlas of Hungary (published in recent years)? I'm making some maps based on a Croatian one from 2018 ("Hrvatski povijesni atlas") and Slovenian from 2011 ("Zgodovinski atlas Slovenije"), and would like to see a perspective from the Hungarian historiography. Tezwoo (talk) 20:49, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I don't know. :( --Norden1990 (talk) 18:43, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Moldova/Moldavia

Apart from being the name of a country, Moldova or Moldavia (there is no difference between the two words in either Romanian or Moldavian) is also the name of a region, divided between the two countries (Romania and Moldova). — GX, May 1971 (talk) 14:25, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I known, but top of the article Moldova contains a clarification. I think it's more than enough. --Norden1990 (talk) 15:04, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

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Egy, a tiedéhez hasonló username-mel rendelkező editor Talk page-én megjelent egy pozitív üzenet. Azt hittem rólad van szó, és a következőt írtam ugyanarra a Talk page-re: ":May I join? Örülök, hogy már hosszú ideje néha-néha összehoz a sors minket. Azt sejtem, ugyanolyan neveltetést kaptál mint én, úgyhogy nem dícsérlek, mert a dícséret mindig gyanús. :)" Now, I repeat the message on the proper Talk page. Borsoka (talk) 16:19, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

@Borsoka:, köszi szépen. A keresztes hadjáratokban sajna annyira nem vagyok otthon, szerkesztéseim nagyrészt a magyar törire (leginkább középkor) korlátozódnak. Ott úgy is hatalmas mennyiséget kell pótolni. --Norden1990 (talk) 20:28, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Timeline of historical geopolitical changes

See the subject. Is it ok, that Bécs became capital just like so? According to this ([1]), Matthias just removed his seat, but he left the former status of Buda. In case correct the article accordingly.(KIENGIR (talk) 14:11, 17 October 2020 (UTC))

I think it's OK. Vienna became de facto capital, as Matthias and the entire royal court moved there. During that time, there were no modern government organizations independently of the monarch's person. --Norden1990 (talk) 21:45, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

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Köszönöm a jókívánságokat és én is boldog új évet kívánok neked és a családodnak! Csak jobb lesz... Borsoka (talk) 05:06, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

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Mi a baja a wikipédiának a Second Battle of Komárom című szócikkemmel?

Szia! Boldog új évet! Remélem jól vagy. Hosszú idő eltelt azóta, hogy nem szerkesztettem a wikipédiát. Aztán egy ideje elhatároztam, hogy folytatom az 1848-49-es csatákról szóló cikkeket. Alighogy elkezdtem a 2. komáromi csata folytatását (Second Battle of Komárom (1849)), elkezdtek zuhogni a figyelmezetések a wikipédia részéről. Először az volt a baj, hogy túl hosszú a cikk eleji ismertetés. Mondtam magamban, hogy rendben, lerövidítem, amikor kész leszek a cikkel. Aztán jött, hogy, úgymond a cikk lemásolta a magyar nyelvű wikipédia változatát. Na ez aztán a szemtelenség! Elég csak összehasonlítani a kettőt. Az én cikkem már a 250 sort is elhagyta, míg a magyar nyelvű cikknek a 2. komáromi csatáról szóló része 18 sorból áll, és a hivatkozásokban sem volt semmilyen átfedés (úgy tűnik, ezt a figyelmeztetést időközben kiszedték). Aztán, hogy sok benne a nyelvtani hiba. Na ezt elismerem, mert nem vagyok az angol nyelv nagy szakértője. Azonban van egy angol ismerősöm, aki ebben a témában szakavatott, és megígérte, hogy amint a cikk készen lesz, átnézi. Aztán jött a két utolsó támadás, amelyet én nem tudok értelmezni: 1. "This section needs more links to other articles to help integrate it into the encyclopedia." 2. "This section includes a list of general references, but it remains largely unverified because it lacks sufficient corresponding inline citations." Mit akarnak ezek? Nem jók nekik az 1848-49-es szabadságharc legnagyobb szakértőinek Csikány Tamásnak és Hermann Róbertnek a művei erről a csatáról? számukra "unverified" egy olyan könyv, amelyet a magyar hadtörténésztanoncok tankönyvként használnak? Fő az, hogy a magyarellenes népirtást végrehajtó Avram Iancuról szóló, ezeket az atrocitásokat meg sem említő cikkekkel semmi problémájuk nincs... Mindez elveszi a kedvemet a további szerkesztéstől. Nem tudom, hogy kik vadásznak a cikkeimre, de gondolom, valamelyik környező nép tagjai. Minden jót.

Sylvain1975 (talk) 05:06, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

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Sylvain1975 (talk) 07:06, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Hát ha tudnál segíteni a táblázat dolgában. Sajnos nincs nagyon időm tanulmányozni, hogy hogyan kell táblázatokat készíteni a wikipédián. Sokszor a lábjegyzetek szerkesztésében is gondjaim vannak, mert amikor beírom, vörösbetűs figyelmeztetést kapok a lábjegyzet helyében. A lábjegyzeteket miért keveslik? szinte minden mondat után lábjegyzetet írtam. Hogy nem adtam száz cikket és könyvet, csak a Csikányét és Hermannét? Mert nincs is más, ezzel a csatával foglalkozó cikk a szakirodalomban. A más szócikkekre való hivatkozások alatt mit értenek pontosan?

Sylvain1975 (talk) 07:10, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Szia, látom, hogz megint szaporodott az "issues"-ok száma a 2. komáromi csatáról szóló cikkemmel kapcsolatban... Most azzal bővült, hogy nem egy enciklopédia cikk, hanem egy mese... Az általam használt irodalom nem meséskönyvek, hanem a legkomolyabb hadtörténelmi munkák... Vagy az a baj, hogy túl hosszú? Ha a gettysburgi csatáról szóló cikk lehet kétszer annyira hosszú, akkor egy magyar csatáról szóló cikk miért nem lehet? sőt a gettysburgi csata mindkét napjáról külön-külön cikket írtak, majd utána egy olyant is, amely közösen tárgyalja a csata két napját (tehát összesen 3 cikk egy csatáról). Ezen megjegyzések egyre jobban úgy kezdenek nekem tűnni, hogy nem kritikák, hanem rosszindulatú támadások. Nagyon sok időmbe kerül, mert nincs időm, ezért úgye, majd hozzájárulsz ahhoz, hogy eltávolítsák ezt a csomó "issue" figyelmeztetést róla? Mert ha ezek maradnak, akkor inkább nem fejezem be. Nem akarom, hogy miután egy csomót kínlódtam rajta, ott díszelegjenek fölötte az olvasókat elriasztó "figyelmeztetések".

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List of heads of state of Hungary

Hi,

after I fixed the mistake with Peidl, I was unable to make the color in the box indetical with party color above...can you fix it replace the black one to the kind of reddish one above? Thank You(KIENGIR (talk) 10:26, 3 February 2021 (UTC))

@KIENGIR:, I fixed the color problem. --Norden1990 (talk) 20:42, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Gömör county

Thanks for the move. A few more articles stucked in the same failed manner in the same area, they are on my watchlist but did not have time to fix them yet. Maybe you could do the moves there as well, and after inform me, and then I will perform an overall cleanup.(KIENGIR (talk) 09:10, 11 February 2021 (UTC))

@KIENGIR:, what articles, for instance? --Norden1990 (talk) 21:20, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Maybe there are not more, or I did not find now what I remembered. However, when the article's split has been completed, Gömör County has to be removed from the Category:Traditional regions of Slovakia, along with Torna County, and possibly as well a region article should be created about the latter (and those may be readded).(KIENGIR (talk) 22:32, 13 February 2021 (UTC))

Edit warring

Please stop edit warring on Template:Coup d'état, you are nearing WP:3RR. The article 2021 storming of the United States Capitol provides multiple reliable sources that describe the even as an attempted coup. Do not inject your own opinion on the event. Thank you. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 21:07, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

@Nice4What:, You are the one trying to accept a political opinion as a fact. Even the article do not say factually that it was a coup, which term appears only in the terminology section next to other terms. --Norden1990 (talk) 21:10, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Norden, a complete nonsense is going on around these issue. See this revision ([2]) and check the amazing RFC closure text. (I voted, however the article is not on my watchlist). Around 40 votes for terrorism, around 30 against, around 20 said wait...a the closure contains that consensus appears in favor of characterizing this event as terrorism....awesome isn't it? Even if just not the number of votes count, but the strenght of the arguments, practically 50 vs 40 against...political shoapboxing and lobbying became really a dangerous phenomenon here...(KIENGIR (talk) 22:38, 13 February 2021 (UTC))

@KIENGIR: Indeed. I think I would do better to return to the topic of Medieval Hungary. --Norden1990 (talk) 10:29, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

I'd suggest you to extend it to all Hungary related area, broadly construed (at least).(KIENGIR (talk) 10:31, 14 February 2021 (UTC))

@KIENGIR: Unfortunately, I have no time for this. Formerly, I also dealt with present Hungarian politics (MPs, parties, elections etc.), but my interest in this direction has waned in recent years. As far as medieval Hungary is concerned, there is quite a lot to do, and mostly no one else is editing on this topic, so it is maximally enough for me for the time being. --Norden1990 (talk) 11:01, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

I see, unfortunately many articles should be improved in these areas, but our time is scarce and unfortunately some of the fellow editors are became much less active. At least medieval history you may extend to overall Hungarian history, not included especially politics if you've got fed up with it.(KIENGIR (talk) 09:14, 15 February 2021 (UTC))

Ilona Massey

Hi,

look on the latest edit. There are contradictive info regarding birth time and place, e.g. ([3]) or ([4]). I have no power to investigate it now, could you solve/decide instead which is correct? (and in case update accordingly in HUWP?) Thanks.(KIENGIR (talk) 21:51, 2 March 2021 (UTC))

Leave it, meanwhile I found the perfect source.(KIENGIR (talk) 21:55, 2 March 2021 (UTC))

Ok. Unfortunately, MÉL sometimes is inaccurate. --Norden1990 (talk) 22:13, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

old comment, but, no

" In Hungarian historiography, based on political, legal and historical reasons, Middle Ages lasted in Hungary until 1526 " - I know what you were trying to say, but historical time-periods are not customized to fit the socio-economic conditions of any territory/people within those time-frames. You caused historians to shudder across Wiki, calling for your burning at the stake - thankfully, I stopped them from carrying it out. Carry on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.111.51.247 (talk) 15:14, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Philip Türje

He was indeed Hungarian, but he was also a Roman Catholic bishop in Croatia, wasnt he? Category:Archbishops of Esztergom brings him into Hungarian people. Rathfelder (talk) 22:32, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Category:Archbishops of Esztergom does not bring him into 13th-century Hungarian people. --Norden1990 (talk) 22:36, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Well by all means put him there, but leave him in Croatia. Rathfelder (talk) 22:44, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Category:Bishops by nationality

Could you have a look at this discussion? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2021_February_28#Category:Roman_Catholic_bishops_by_nationality I think it is more or less agreed that bishops should be categorised by location, not nationality. Rathfelder (talk) 22:43, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

You think 12th-century Roman Catholic bishops in Hungary should also be in Category:12th-century Hungarian people? I was thinking we only needed to do that for people who were not bishops in their native country. Rathfelder (talk) 23:05, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

I added non-diffusing subcategory template to all RC bishops categories, similarly to Category:12th-century Hungarian women etc. --Norden1990 (talk) 23:15, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Missing cites in 1990 Hungarian parliamentary election

The article cites 7 short cites but no sources are listed in the bibliography (this issue dates from 2015). Can you please add? Also, suggest installing a script to highlight such errors in the future. All you need to do is copy and paste importScript('User:Svick/HarvErrors.js'); // Backlink: [[User:Svick/HarvErrors.js]] to your common.js page. Thanks, Renata (talk) 04:38, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Fixed. --Norden1990 (talk) 16:05, 8 March 2021 (UTC)