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Help

Hi, because my computer is gone weird I can't see wwe results (raw) Could you just copy and paste on my talk peage?

Thanks--80.58.205.36 (talk) 13:07, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

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Can you fix up some of these Wrestlers/Articles?

Can you fix up some of these Wrestlers/Articles?: (by expanding, adding refs)

here are some handy links:

OWW Profiles
OWW Results
Solie's Title Histories
Smart Mark Video
Duration Calculator
IWA Mid-South Results archive
BritWres.com

And some new ones you could make if possible;

Its would be Appreciated, Thanks!

22:20, 15 June 2009 (UTC)72.70.150.63 (talk)

User:Shappy/Amazing Race Wikipedia

What do you say? Partners?--WillC 04:41, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Alright. Done.--WillC 19:44, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Also, I hope you like our team name?--WillC 01:36, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Oh sad to hear about that. But look at it this way, somemore time to study and make sure you do great.--WillC 22:32, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
I have faith in you, I believe you'll do better on this test than the last one. Don't worry about it. You'll do great.--WillC 23:36, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
If I know you like I think I do, then you did great. Don't worry. I have faith in you and I'm right here if anything goes wrong. You always have someone to talk to right here.--WillC 14:33, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
No problem. I meant it. You can call me Honest Will if you like.--WillC 08:48, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Bitch? You aren't bitching. You are just worried, and I've been in your shoes. Well not really. My feet are too big and I'm a man, but you understand. I've delt with the stress and the worry, and believe me, after a while you get use to it and it gets a hellva alot easier. Thank you for the award; you love me, you really really love me!!!!! Here is a great song in turn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYbRugkyC7M --WillC 09:13, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
I've been listening to it all day. I love it. I first heard it in a movie and ever since, I just can't get enough of it. It is almost a perfect song. Oh yeah, I almost forgot. I've begun work on AJ. Not much but a start. I have his article in a subpage for now doing my part since I can't stand the ip edits. If you want to work on any of it for now, it is located here.--WillC 09:45, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Take your time. I'm in no rush. I'm just getting set. I'm still semi-retired. I'm not back yet. So not until you see the semi-retired boxes disappear should you be worried. Though it may seem like I'm back, I'm not. List articles are just easy to pop out when I'm bored.--WillC 09:55, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
You should try. They are super easy. I'm pulling one out a day if I try, which I don't want to. Just check my accomplsihments page. Watchlist it! I'm pulling a crap load out. I'm up to 34 overall articles expanded on wikipedia in total. I'm doing very well. Though if you lived in my town you would be just like me.--WillC 09:59, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
I agree. GAN is fucking slow. I have three articles on there at the moment and none are under review, and the X Title is the oldest on there. Why is the sports section always backed up? It makes no sense.--WillC 10:05, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Eventually we'll get reviews. It just sucks that wrestling articles never get reviews until they are the oldest.--WillC 10:13, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Bye, good luck.--WillC 10:16, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Well, how has your week been? Because mine is already in the shitter. Well seeing as I believe you are truthful. I have a question for you: Do you believe I'm weird? I ask because someone told me that this week. It has made me wonder if people believe that, which I hope is not true. Because I'm not a freak, psyco, etc. And seeing as you are one of the friends I have on here, I thought to ask you. I wouldn't want another friendship to break up because I may give off the wrong vibe. I hope you understand the above comments.--WillC 05:01, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

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Amazing Race Wikipedia

Hello, NiciVampireHeart. Welcome to the Amazing Race Wikipedia. In your travels, you will encounter two types of tasks. In a Detour, you have a choice between two tasks. Both of you must work together on this. In a Roadblock, one team member must work on a task alone. Your Amazing Race Wikipedia submissions page is located here. Enjoy the competition! Best, Shappy (talk · contribs) and Firestorm (talk · contribs). 20:02, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: London and Kendrick

Thank you. I was gonna tell you about it, but when I read your note above, I was like 'oh, she's busy. I'll just let Nikki know instead'. But, I'm glad that you left me a message. Um, sure I'll set up the GT stuff, partner. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 18:16, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Awwww, is someone "stressed out"? :) I still remember when you teased me about my exams. I gotta study as well. Good luck on 'em. I know, we are unstoppable. We're like the cool duo or something. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 18:25, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Oh, they were a lot. I still remember, you had so many zingers. It was awful. Its settled, we'll be known as the "Cool Duo". Those who get in our way should fear us. :P --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 18:32, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
No, you're not a bitch, you were just having your fun with me. :) I think I'll add this to my page, so those who check it out, can take notice that we're hella cool. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 18:38, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Yup yup. Damn, I messed up the nomination page. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 18:49, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Well, I saw the example from Morrison and the Miz, but forgot to add "candidate" to the title. I have no clue what to do. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 18:52, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I know. The procedures have changed. I hope they don't get pissed, that was an honest mistake from my part. Also, thank you for adding it to the page, I was gonna add it, but I needed to tell you that I messed up. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 19:18, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
We probably should ask her to delete it. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 14:50, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Cool. I hope this doesn't follow me in the future. :) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 14:34, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Thank God. I don't know, but these sort of stuff do follow people. I guess I'm just overreacting. Agreed, people aren't perfect, they make mistakes. So, to be cautious, I'm gonna let you do the MNM stuff. :) Which will probably be in the summer. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 16:04, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

No no, an Rfa, right now, is the last thing on my mind. Yeah, I was thinking of that the other day. Sure, I'll help you out. BTW, you did a great job with the lead for Beth Phoenix. :) You wanna work on Mark Henry? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:57, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't blame you. I've done the same. I congratulate you on working on it for 6 hours. ;) Though, I think it took you 2 hours on the Bella Twins article. IDK, I think that's how long it was. Yeah, I don't want to work on his article, either, but we have to, if we want to motivate ourselves. Yeah, I'll copy-edit the article for ya and let you know. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:10, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Alright, I made some changes, hope they're alright. Also, I believe you have your next GA. :) Keep up the good work, my fellow Cool partner. :P I'll add the "Cool" note when you come back from your exams. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:17, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, I was a bit worried. You're welcome fellow cool person. Its fine, just that you use American British or Hiberno-English spelling on an American article. If it were like William Regal's article, it'd be fine. Yup, another one added to your collection. You should be proud. :) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:30, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, that's what I was aiming for, but it seems I couldn't "get it" apparently. ;) Man, it must be hard writing with the spelling. Good example on favorite vs favourite. How 'bout colour vs... color. I currently have "colour" on my page, explaining my favourite "colour". No pun intended of course. :) Yeah, time is what is needed right now. You'll have plenty of time before it gets reviewed. Who knows, Jillian might accomplish something, that you'll be very proud to include. :P I hope. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:38, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
I was very off yesterday. :) Forgive me. Why slim? Why not powerful? I guess. Though, Santino[a] is making an effort. If you know what I mean. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:17, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Well, you could say the article is in powerful hope of passing. :) I know, that didn't make sense... I know. Nice, you do know what I mean. ;) Hey, so after you're done with your exams, you want to work on Mark Henry's article? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:31, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Sounds great. June 16? Man, I have mine next week. They're going to be hell, but you have some extra time to "study". :P Well, that's another project added to our collection. :) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:46, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Lucky you. I will have two in one day. I've managed, I've dealt with this in junior high and high school. It sure is a long to-do list. But, we need to do this, in order for us to accomplish our goal. For the future, you want to split the work? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:58, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
I'd be glad if it was one day. But, that's not the case for me this whole week. Yeah, I'll take some sections, while you do the same. Uh-huh. I logged in Saturday and I saw that his article got protected and I wondered why, couldn't be week-by-week, so I checked it out and its because he was release. I was shocked WWE did that. I just saw a Raw commercial with Kennedy and I'm like 'What? He just got released. Why are they showing a commercial featured with him'? That commercial was yesterday [Sunday]. I swear, WWE is getting weirder by the second. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 14:50, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Man, a lot of controversy that night [May 25]. I don't blame J.R. for expressing his feelings towards WWE. Still, releasing him was probably a big mistake from WWE's part. Who knows, this might come and haunt WWE in the future. Anyways, can't wait to work with ya. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 15:26, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Man, you and I think alike, something we share, and its a cool attribute. But, we don't share the same taste in men. :) But, we do enjoy collaboratin'. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:02, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey partner, forgot to congratulate you, ---> Wikipedia:Featured topic candidates/Paul London and Brian Kendrick, for the excellent work. :) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:24, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Don't forget, let me know when you finish (tests), and so we can have our next GT. :) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:53, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Alright, that's fine with me. You need the rest, I need the time. :) Friday sounds good, see ya 'til then. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 14:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Welcome back.

Hope your leaving exam went well. :) Sorry about that revert yesterday at the Katie Lea article. That being said, if there's ever a specific article you're working on, I'd be happy to try to source any moves. Let me know. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 00:32, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Sure thing. Oh, it annoys me too. I try to search for sources when I get a chance. I tend to just choose a random article from near the top of my watchlist and source whatever I can. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 00:42, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
I can see what you mean. I can't do that everyday. I tend to go on sprees, where I'll source a few articles in a few days and then take a break. The constant Google searching for that kind of stuff gets repetitive. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 00:49, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

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long time no talk

Hey!

Just passin thru to say hello. Hope your having a good day. Where's my Barnstar? lol.

Drunknesmonsta (talk) 23:15, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


I've been keeping busy. Good to know that you're gonna have a nice relaxing summer of drinkin! WOOOOOOO.. that should be a good time. I'm doing the same myself! Well, don't be a stranger. Talk to you laterDrunknesmonsta (talk) 19:32, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

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Milena Roucka

The site I linked to was a flash based production music site used often by the WWE. I linked to the homepage as there is no other page to link to with that specific information. If you would take 2 minutes from reverting information I would like to prove to you that she does in fact use that song. On the website http://extrememusic.com/ click the tab at the bottom "Get Trax". Then click the "X-Series" tab at the top. On the side click the "Album Number" tab. Scroll down the album list until you get to "XCD066 -Nu Latino" and click it. Then click the play button on the song "Excess All Areas" Listen to the song for at least 10 seconds and use it as a reference to this video of Milena Roucka as Rosa Mendez entering to the exact same song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QEMGkBIEzo

If you have a problem with the format of my reference then let me use Jeff Hardy's page as an example In the section "In Wrestling" check the reference of his theme music "Loaded" by Zack Tempest. I have used the exact same format for Milena Roucka's page. Do not turn this into an Edit War. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BigDaveyB (talk • contribs) 05:48, June 23, 2009

Davey Richards

I agree with you on the Day of the Wolves part, but apparently you people are stupid if you can't even realize obvious redundancy. Is it actually necessary to add the entire "Tiger Suplex '98" part (name and move description) when it's EXACTLY the same thing as the DR Driver, save for it being from the top rope? Why not just keep the Tiger Suplex '98 name (albeit italicized due to the DR Driver name being obviously better known) and the fact that it's done from the top rop on occasions since it's sourced and get rid of the rest of the move description?

In regards to the "butterfly brainbuster powerbomb", it IS the same thing as the DR Driver II: a double underhook brainbuster (P.S. A brainbuster IS a suplex variation if you count Japanese wrestling terminology and including the suplex part after the double underhook brainbuster part is, again, REDUNDANT). If it ends in a "powerbomb position", it's a DR Driver / kneeling or a sitout double underhook piledriver. If it doesn't, then it is a double underhook brainbuster.

In regards to the title section, why don't you take a look at Edge's article for an example. He won the World Tag Team Titles with Christian while it was officially known as the WWF Tag Team Championship and won it again with Randy Orton when it was the World Tag Team Championship. Thus, shouldn't his reigns in the "championships" section (as well as Christian's and other articles in the same predicament) be listed as the WWF/E Tag Team Championship/World Tag Team Championship, or is it "too messy" to list it as that? PCE (Talk) — Preceding undated comment added 06:40, June 24, 2009

The Day of Wolves link was a force of habit and I apologize for it and I appreciate you not reverting the title name. If you look through the edit history of the suplex (it may take a while), you should find that there was an edit that removed the Japanese terminology connection between the suplex and brainbuster (it should have something like "Western and Eastern suplex" or something like that in the brackets at the end of the edit). I'm curious about you saying I'm using O.R. for the piledirver because every piledriver listed on the piledriver page can end in either a sitout (vertebreaker, Argentine) or kneeling (tombstone, pumphandle tombstone) position or even both (back to belly, reverse). It's common knowledge for Christ's sakes. And I've added an "acceptable" (PWTorch) link for the Alarm Clock. PCE (Talk) — Preceding undated comment added 08:34, June 24, 2009

Zesh Rehman GA Nom

For the nicknames like Canaries shall I just replace it with 'Norwich' since User:Dudesleeper and probably a few others don't like "Canaries (nickname for Norwich)" as it's a bit over the top Spiderone (talk) 08:57, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

MNM & Abismo

Thank you for your input on Abismo Negro, I gave it a quick scan and it's very helpful. I will get back to the MNM review as soon as I have time, from what I've seen so far I'm pleased with the progress it's made. Since the "Good Article Project" did not think it was a conflict of interest for me to do GA reviews I'm hoping to reduce the backlog of wrestling related GA candidates over the next weeks, time permitting. MPJ-DK (talk) 10:46, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I passed MNM, good work. MPJ-DK (talk) 01:49, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

RE

I got blocked to end the edit war. My own choice. I enjoyed it this time. Last time I was pissed. Anyway, it involves this girl's boyfriend telling me to leave her alone. Says she thinks I'm a stalker and crazy when I haven't talked to her in any way for 5 months and I haven't seen her since November of 08. I guess it has made me wonder if I give that vibe to anyone else, if I give off a vibe that is. Mine and her friendship is over anyway. I told her to fuck off and never talk or come near me again, just minus saying fuck off. I did it in a nicer way. Sending a message on myspace, my only way of contact these days, and told her that if she would even consider it possible then she didn't know me, etc. Then removed her from my friends list and blocked her. Jackass (boyfriend) got his wish, I'm never talking to her again. He was an idiot anyway, he couldn't spell "think". Nice, I have a few for you. [1], [2], enjoy. Alright, thanks for the two mentions on your new user page. Speaking of such, where shall we begin in the Amazing Race?--11:15, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
Nici I bestow upon you this barnstar *thinks of more mid-evil kind of crap to say and fails*. I see you work on a countless number of articles helping cut down the clean up list and always making sure the newsletter is on time when you can.--WillC 11:26, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
For cheering me up a bit when I'm in a weird situation.--WillC 11:26, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I have it in a subpage and I've been working on it just a little bit. Trying to get a few format changes at WT:PW before big expansion though. But that isn't important. Lets see, I've been working on Chris Harris a bit and AJ. Right there is two articles. And we have the Brood to do. Any ideas for lists, etc.--WillC 11:33, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, I haven't given you one before. So the Tireless came into play, and the Cheer up was needed but seemed like a weak barnstar. Nice to know I've done good.--WillC 11:37, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Lets see, ROH is done. The Pure belt is not long enough. PWG is done. FIP is done. TNA is done. WWE has one left and I'm already doing it in a subpage. CZW has three or four left. The Iron man, Junior, and their hardcore belts. OVW is something I've been watching closely to do. AWA World Title would be something new. The NWA World Heavyweight and World Tag could be something. None of JAPW are long enough. There are plenty, just wasn't sure if a championship would be the way to go. I'm not far behind, just taking my time. I'm up watching Angel like I've been doing for two months.--WillC 11:46, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
My bad, I clicked on the wrong belts. JAPW Title are long enough.--WillC 11:50, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
There are alot of lists you must not know about. Check through the list category and you'll be surprised. If a roster list was to be worked on, I would choose ROH's or PWG's.--WillC 11:55, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
My bad, was not intended. Well I'll do some research. We may need to make a featured picture. Got any ideas? What about an FA? Got many things to figure out.--WillC 12:04, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Either, maybe even neither. Could do a promotion, etc. I have PPV, bio, etc articles lined up for FA, it just depends on which you would rather work on, seeing as you dislike the FA process and never done one before.--WillC 01:14, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Just saying, there is some choice in the options you pursue. Meetare Shappy Cunkelfratz! 01:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Well luckily I've been thinking about FA for 6 months and which articles I would like to take to FA over the next year since in after a year I'm leaving pedia and I want to leave a mark before I go. Though plans may change, but doubtful since I'll be in college then. The articles I've come up with are numerous. Including PPVs, bios, tag teams, promotions, etc. All of the TNA Titles go to FA so I can make a topic, but seeing as we have to work together, that wouldn't work since they are all already expanded. Now lets take the articles out that I know you probably world not like to work on: PPVs and shit that would be difficult. Okay that leaves bios and tag team articles. List of Tag teams and bios I have in mind: A.J. Styles, Christopher Daniels, A.J. Styles and Christopher Daniels, Samoa Joe, America's Most Wanted (professional wrestling), Adam Copeland, Edge and Christian, Dudley Boyz, Jeff Jarrett, and Kurt Angle. There are a few more, but these are my top choices. Any you have?--WillC 11:45, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
I was asking if there was any you think should be FA. All I mentioned besides E&C, Dudleys, JJ, and Angle I'm taking to FA eventually. With me and Blue taking Cage to GA soon and you and me supposed to be doing a Brood topic, which involves three you've already done and Cage, I thought to mention E&C. Not sure if that is a smart idea, with all being GA besides it. Would seem out of place, but if you want too, I guess we could. Decision? I'm having sleeping trouble more offten now. I'm turning into a vampire I believe. Staying up at night and sleeping during the day. But I'm up watching Angle as well.--WillC 12:06, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Danielson yes yes yes yes yes. I'll go for that if you want to. Fuck Orton and Flair. Flair screwed over ROH and is an embrassment to wrestling today. Fuck Orton or shall I saw Triple H jr. Orton is nothing but a pathetic prick who deserves to get kicked in the teeth. He has never had a real wrestling match. He needs to get in a ring with Kenta, he'll fuck him up. For an epic video, watch this.--WillC 12:21, 18 June 2009 (UTC) They are both good wrestlers yes and I stress good because compared to AJ, Joe, Kenta, etc they suck. But today I hate them. Flair changes his mind every week. Screws over ROH just so he can get kicked in the head on national tv. Orton is just a plain prick. If it is true he got Kennedy fired. He has become Triple H, and we all know what I think of that cunt. I'm up too it as well. We can do Danielson and Styles. Danielson may be a bit harder than Styles, so both will not hurt. Back up plans always work.--WillC 00:15, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Then there are the rumors that two people didn't like Kennedy and also complained to Vince about this. Plus Vince was already pissed off and acted quickly. Even if Orton had nothing to do with it, he is still a prick. RVD gets busted for pot, while Orton smokes it backstage and nothing happens.--WillC 00:31, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Kendrick is an exception. He wants to be released. He wants to leave. I just dislike both Flair and Orton today. The only thing Flair is good for anymore is publicity. He is useless beyond that. He could help ROH, but no wants to help WWE but they only want him so he won't show up in TNA. Sting vs Flair can still bring money.--WillC 00:40, 19 June 2009 (UTC) Father like son is all I have to say there. Apparently WWE won't take his druggie son. With ROH paying him 15,000 I believe per appearance. The least he can do is not screw them over.--WillC 00:49, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I've turned against Flair. If I met him I probably wouldn't care. Just like how I would flip off Trips if I met him. So, how do you believe you did on your exams?--WillC 01:00, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I'll hack into the school system and find out.--WillC 01:19, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I can hack into that too.--WillC 01:26, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Maybe, I'll start now. OKay, first to turn on the computer. How do I do that?--WillC 01:46, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't mind. I see people doing it all the time so I just thought to remove it like they do. Was unaware of an archive. So, now what? What do we talk about now? When to start on what? Which sections of what do we each do? etc.--WillC 12:08, 19 June 2009 (UTC) Well it would be best to discuss who does what first. I wasn't going to edit till July anyway. I'll do AJ's TNA section that is for sure since I've begun reading the TNA reports and by July should be almost finished. AD is going be weird, since there are rare reports on ROH, PWG, etc. So getting the storylines he was involved in will be difficult. One thing I've been meaning to say is: you take the crap I have no idea how to do and I'll do the crap that I understand.--WillC 12:32, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Well PWG keeps a list of their entire history on their site. Different links per event. Plus they have a page per reign on there as well. They pretty much have their whole history on that site. ROH just has one big ass list. For extra sources check Slam and PWTorch. The second will have more I'm sure. Would be nice to get Danielson done. I wish for one day to see Angle vs Danielson go for an hour. Would be an amazing match.--WillC 12:50, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Yeah Slam has very little, but some useful stuff. Torch has quite a bit. Plus try 411Mania.com. With these just being results it is not controversial and they'll probably accept it in good faith or whatever. If not cite video will do. So, we working in the page or subpage? Plus, we kind of need to figure out who handles what. You have PWG/ROH. I have IDK. Then we got the other sections to cover. You are the expirenced bio editor. Which sections you want?--WillC 15:56, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Well said. I don't work with people so wasn't sure how we would be doing this. I just naturely assumed you would take something and I would. Two birds, one stone.--WillC 16:36, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Okay, just trying to set everything up. Making sure no stone is unturned, etc.--WillC 16:59, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Alright. Ever seen Titus (TV series)?--WillC 17:07, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are probably missing one of the best shows EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go here. This user has uploaded all the episodes, well not yet still in progress, under all rights reserved to the owner laws so they will not be taken down. Start watching. The best episode is probably Deprogramming Erin. I laughed out load and couldn't breath when Dave screamed "Get off our lawn" the second time around.--WillC 17:18, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, habit. Okay, bye.--WillC 19:14, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
I have a youtube account. Just to tell you first. My only form of contact with you is via this. So I'll tell you now, my account name is Tucanforpres001. And I want you to watch this: [3]. It is funny as hell. I can not stop laughing. You must watch this, do it for me now.--WillC 10:31, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

BFG

No big deal. I only placed it in there since I thought we mentioned Mania 26.--WillC 07:36, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

It is not. I checked before I wrote the above message. I thought it was mentioned though, weird.--WillC 07:44, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
TNA aren't doing much anymore. The most recent thing was their anniversary on the 19 which they celebrated with Slammiversary.--WillC 08:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Maybe. They seemed to be focused on other things.--WillC 10:52, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Well remember TNA doesn't tour as much as WWE, so injuries are rare. The most recent was by Samoa Joe who broke a finger or two and tore a muscle.--WillC 02:28, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Not yet, but will soon. Why?--WillC 03:00, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh yeah. I have your subpage on watchlist. I watchlist everything. I was thinking about reviewing Armageddon though. I think I will probably. Good luck with the review.--WillC 03:18, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry, I'm not a stalker. Also I told the person who thought I was to fuck off. I have articles watched I don't know why are on my watchlist. I watched Sex Stmbol yesterday for no reason. It mentions wrestlers in it may be the reason. I got Transformers 2, Barack Obama‎, Age of the Earth‎, Creationism, Jesus, etc all watchlisted for no reasons. I guess when I see the watch list button I just click it without thinking. Well films should be fun. Buildings of Jesus College, Oxford, Avenged Sevenfold, South Park, The Day the Earth Stood Still (2008 film), Freddy Krueger, Watchmen (film), Megan Fox, PTV (Family Guy), Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, Apolo Anton Ohno, Mew (Pokémon), University of Central Florida, Panzer 35(t), Condom, Adam Birch, Beth Phoenix, Jillian Hall, and Armageddon (2008) are all the ones I would even think about reviewing that are on GAN at the moment.--WillC 03:46, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

I do as well. All I mentioned I somewhat care about but have no reason to watch them. I don't edit them or anything. I believe I've kept them on there to watch for vandalism. Wikipedia is mostly an atheistic community which I've grown to notice is very bias against any type of religion other than their own. So I'm kind of watching them to make sure there is still a neutral point of view. Yes it is very very long. I only mentioned them so I wouldn't possibly hurt your feelings by not wishing to even want to read your work. Truthfully only Beth I would read. Remember I left Ted out above because fuck that putto. Plus you've never seen how I review so I may even be a better reviewer than someone outside the project. But I'm too afraid to even start a review for Armageddon. Mainly since Save Us has been gone since mid-May and I don't want to get stuck with reviewing an article for nothing.--WillC 04:47, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

How am I cynical? Well it would be nice to know I have the power. I could make you dance like a puppet. Tell you this image needs to go here *moved* No it doesn't look right there move it back. *moved* Wait move it to this section, etc. A Legacy topic it looks like. Ted to me has a bit of talent but has to wrestle longer than a 5 minute match before I see him being the next Cena or at least lasting 5 minutes in the ring. Yeah he did. With No Mercy 07. I was talking to him on im all the time back then. He hasn't gotten on it weeks though. Werid.--WillC 05:02, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

I didn't say you. You don't seem bias, until now. I've involved myself a bit in discussions on religious articles, etc. The neutral point of view does not exist over there. Neither belief has been proven true, but over there one has and it is evolution and they try to make any who think otherwise seem dumb. The article regrading Jesus has been at FAC 5 or 6 times since 2004 and each time has failed based on a non-neural point of view with some opposing for even the smallest thing like whether to use BC/AD or BCC/CE. The creation myth article has failed to be moved to creation theory based on the majority always being atheist not wanting it moved. Myth is not a neutral when dealing with something that has yet to be proven nor disproven as fact. I don't like religion myself, I just have faith in the belief. I wish there was no groups, instead just the belief in God. You have alot against Cena for no reason. Cena has just as much talent as The Rock or Austin did. The only reason they are regraded on a higher level is their gimmick was better than Cena's. Austin nor Rock were amazing wrestlers on A.J. Styles or maybe HBK's level but just knew how to work the crowd. They both stickied to a limited moveset. Cena has talent clearly based on his mic skills and matches. If he can pull a half decent match out of Big Show who only use to have great matches with Angle and Lesnar then it shows a bit on his skills. This Sunday if he has at least a good match with The Miz, then most of the arguments against Cena will be proven to be false. Likewise.--WillC 12:02, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
K. Crap everyone does the comeback like Cena: The Undertaker, HBK, Hulk Hogan, etc. Okay when Cena does sexual jokes it is a rip-off but while Christian Cage and Edge do them, they aren't. Cough cough "double standard" cough cough *looks around*. Cena and The Rock's promos are near the same. The Rock had a bit more charisma, but he he got mega over is why people think he has way more talent than Cena. Hell when The Rock started he was booed out of the building. There were signs that said die Rockey die. The last few statements with Big Show carrying Cena is not even worth replying too.--WillC 02:38, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Cena is also entertaining, a man can't be the world's biggest draw today when he isn't. The thing is people believe Cena is the problem for today's crappy wrestling and if he left everything would be epic. That is clearly wrong, since his recent injuries has made wrestling worse. I've never seen Raw be so bad. I haven't read his article, so I didn't even know they were in there. All Cena has to do is turn heel. Just like Hogan. Hogan was at Cena's level and turned heel. Did wonders for his career. Same as HBK. Was at Cena's level in the 90s. Turned heel and helped him alot. I saw Doom, Rock isn't always good. I liked 12 Rounds.--WillC 03:04, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Lets just quit arguing this. We both have conflicting opinions. I've seen Cena's work from OVW and trust me he is either holding back or being told to tone it down.--WillC 03:22, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Well it is your opinion that Cena and HBK are not on the same level. Cena isn't up to par with HBK on wrestling ability but hardly anyone is. Thanks. I got to re-write that article. The ones expanding the TNA articles today don't know what they are doing. I bought BFG IV Sunday, so be on the look out for that to pop out of no where soon. I just wish someone would reply to my section at WT:PW.--WillC 03:37, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Well in my time we would hang them up by their toes. Wait sorry about that, evil Will came out. I thought I already replied to you.--WillC 04:07, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I knew it just wasn't me. Because "I can feel it coming in the air tonight, oh lord, oh lord." Sorry I couldn't help myself, been listen to the hard rock verison of that song. Well the only reason I thought it would be useful to show the competeition. Video game systems are compared so I thought PPVs would be and interesting mix. Only oone event was to air on the same night and it was Turning Point which was moved to November and Final Resolution was moved to December to air a week before Turning Point was supposed to against Armageddon. I was thinking more of overall year reception. Like "of the 12 events TNA held in 2009 8 were rated 7, 3 were rated 6, and 1 was rated 4 out of 10. Compared to the overall ratings for 15 events held by WWE, which had 9 events rated 7, 2 events rated 8, 3 events rated 7, and one event rated 5 out of 10." Something along those lines.--WillC 04:45, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay. Will do.--WillC 05:26, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

So what should we talk about now?--WillC 05:34, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, well we have yet to think of an article for FL if that comes up. So maybe we should figure out what we are going to work on first. Also I'm bored.--WillC 06:18, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Well Wednesday we'll know. I'm guessing you would rather a championship so I got three lined up in case: the CZW Iron Man Championship, the CZW Ultraviolent Underground Championship, and the CZW World Junior Heavyweight Championship. That is if FL does pop up.--WillC 06:55, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Okay. Well that means we have GA, FA, and FL covered. FP is hard. If FPO comes up we are covered. A DYK will be easy, though an ITN may be a bit difficult. I think we have everything covered.--WillC 07:01, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Well I can get it covered quickly. You may not know American history that great but ever heard of Abraham Lincoln? I live in the home town of his wife, well one of them, not sure which they are both named Mary. He use to live a few miles away. 15 miles away is his birthplace. I can go by there and take of picture of his log cabin if I wish. Get the resolution and everything correct. Get us an FP. Maybe take a few more around the park. I can always go the 25 miles an visit Kentucky Down Under, which I've been wanting to do for the passed 5 years; since I went with my now deceased Grandmother; with my dad, mom, sister, and other family to see the Mammoth Cave system, which you should know is the longest cave system in the world and I've been in it twice. Like bats, I don't.--WillC 07:25, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

It is all about mastering the art of paint and windows photo gallery/maker which I have yet to do because it is so damn hard when you don't know what the hell to do to get the picture to even come up. I'm screwing around with it at the moment. So if you decide to take a picture of anything, including your town, just send it to me and I'll fix it to fit the criteria. I've been meaning to take a pic of my town from a good position and get it to FP along with the article to FA or at least GA.--WillC 07:37, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, it will be a bitch to get it up there. But there should be a way.--WillC 10:18, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

So, what topic involves Mark Henry?--WillC 10:35, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh. I've been wondering. It made no sense.--WillC 10:40, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

None. Maybe List of WWE Women's Champions.--WillC 10:43, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah she should. She and I are planning to do Gail Kim and Jacqueline Moore together for the topic. Then we are planning to work on the TNA Knockout Title as a topic. She wants to do Awesome Kong. Victoria won the knockouts belt on Tuesday so there is already a GA in place and the title is ready for GAN. I've tried that.--WillC 11:06, 27 June 2009 (UTC) Cool.--WillC 05:15, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

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Irish Rugby Player Bios

Hi. See my proposal at: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rugby union. I'm trying to organise a clean up and rework of Irish Rugby Player Bios. I see you've made some good contributions so any assistance/input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers GainLine ♠ ♥ 11:36, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Great! Plan is to do them in the order on the IRFU profiles page, started on Rory Best & currently working on Tommy Bowe. Plan is to get them into a similar layout as I did with Alan Quinlan GainLine ♠ ♥ 11:50, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Cool, thanks for the help GainLine ♠ ♥ 14:09, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Billy Red Lyons

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Newsletter

Hmm. I was thinking we should change up the newsletter a bit, I rather discuss it with you first since the project tends to complain about topics like this. --Truco 503 15:39, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I know, since I kinda came up with the layout. What bothers me the most about the current format is the "recent professional wrestling news" section, IMO it takes away from the true meaning of the newsletter which is news about the project itself since that section tends to take up an entire side of the newsletter.--Truco 503 15:51, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
I agree with that reasoning. I think that info like "title changes", "injuries", "signings", "retirements/firings", "relevant important info to a promotion", "deaths", "births related to pro wrestling", and "prison sentences" can be included but other things that are storylines like the Trump angle should not be mentioned, nor should the many arrests that occurred these past 2 weeks.--Truco 503 18:26, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
Okay, maybe not births. Yeah, arrests aren't that big a deal, most wrestlers get arrested everyday while less go to prison. TNA's launching of that video thing, its related to their promotion in a financial way. (But if its online, then I don't think its notable) True about the Donald Trump thing, since it got media attention, but if we're gonna mention that, then we may as well mention the resale of it. --"Storylines can only be mentioned if they got notable coverage by media" Is it me or is there just a lot of news lately? --Truco 503 22:33, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

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Eddie Kingston

Shuji Kondo has a submission finisher called the Kondo Clutch, which is an inverted cloverleaf. Cheerleader Melissa uses the inverted cloverleaf as a finisher and her page here on Wikipedia even calls it the Kondo Clutch in reference, so if Kingston's OWOW page doesn't specify the Kondo Clutch, then someone should remove the Kondo Clutch name from Melissa's page. There isn't a backbreaker listed here on Wikipedia called the "ura-nage backbreaker" and the closest thing to it would be the side slam backbreaker. In case you forgot, the side slam is incorrectly referred to as a ura-nage, as stated by the source (Vecchio, Linda (2002). Aikido. Lakeland Community College. p. 60.) found on the side slam's entry on the powerslam page. PCE (talk) 13:41, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Kingston's OWOW article has a move listed as "Kawada Chops" that's also on his article, yet the Kawada chops aren't explicitly stated as to what move or moves they are. Isn't adding that name next to the rapid knife-edged chops because they both have the word "chops" in their names original research? I can understand if you don't know too much about Melissa's article, but saying you don't care shows how much dedication you and likely your "project" has in regards to articles that aren't about mainstream wrestlers. If you lot are so strict about sources, then you should delete all the moves without source tags at the end of them in every wrestler's article. PCE (talk) 17:47, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
If I decided to stop editing, then many of the articles I listed in my page would've been left to either be deleted or simply ignored. Also, you didn't answer my question on if the "Kawada Chops" name is the actual move name for Kingston's rapid knife-edged chops of if it's just original research. Lastly, if you lot are so short-handed, then why not kick out the members of your project who don't even do anything? Them being utterly useless is just as bad as me being "deconstructive". PCE (talk) 20:10, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
The Kawada Chops name is sourced and yet the source doesn't even explicitly say that the move and the name are one and the same, so re-adding the Kawada Chops name is practically original research on your part because you're assuming the sourced name is the same thing as the move itself. The same thing happened with Charlie Haas' article in which people were calling his cloverleaf catapult backbreaker finisher the "Haastruction" and his Olympic slam the "Total Haastility" because those names were sourced (also from OWOW) when the move themselves weren't even given special names. PCE (talk) 21:30, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
If you simply admitted, in regards to the Kawada Chops, that you blatantly did original research like I and many other users have done in the past with other articles, then I would be peachy keen that you removed it. But go ahead and take the arrogant route instead of admitting that you fucked up like every other human being does from time to time. PCE (talk) 22:41, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Marvin Lambert

Updated DYK query On July 6, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Marvin Lambert, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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File:WWE Summerslam 09.jpg

You said that I didn't put an author for File:WWE Summerslam 09.jpg. I just edited is and put it in the summary —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bballlova99 (talk • contribs) 14:01, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: Ready?

I sure am. Yeah, that way we have everything done for MNM, and then later work on Legacy. Works for me. What do you want me to work on? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:43, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I'll begin working on the lead right away. I'll try and see if I can find some sources for the section, but, I'm not sure if I'll be "successful" in doing so. Though, I'll give it my best. :) That work for me. Does that work for you? P.S. Is about time you got your special day. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:59, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Oh, okay I'll look into that. Thanks for the tip. :) Don't say that, you do an outstanding job, regardless if its only wrestling stuff. Also, you seem to "edit" Twilight related articles, maybe you got spotted because of that, since that seems to be popular at the moment. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:07, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, all the arguments, fights, edit warring, etc., can drive someone crazy. But, its hard to abandon it. Good for you! See, you're making your way and working on new material; You're making your transitions, but taking a step at a time, so keep it up. :) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:17, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
That is good. You are making good changes in your wiki-life. :) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:32, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
You're getting there. :) I think so. I wouldn't see the problem with it. As long as it's related to Mark Henry, it shouldn't cause a problem. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:45, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, if its brought up, we can make our arguments regarding the use of the source in the article. It won't be a big deal. IDK. MNM for one is a short article and very easy to do. I would understand if someone became intimidated by reviewing Adam Birch's, but still you know. I'm doing my best in what I can review at GAN, so that someone can review MNM, in return of course. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:52, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, they are totally unbiased to wrestling articles. ;) I feel you on that; Like around this time, in mid-May and stuff, I had five noms. at GAN, and became lazy in not helping out at GAN. Then, I understood why my noms. weren't being reviewed, cause I wasn't doing reviews. So now, I'm taking it a step at a time, very slow, though, in helping out. If you start, it'll give you a boost and you'll see a magnifying glass on Adam Birch, Jillian Hall, Beth Phoenix, just sayin'. :P --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 00:05, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about that [was working on lead]. Again, I know where you're coming from, I felt "inexperienced" at first to review articles, since I'm not that "smart" and believe me I'm not. I'll admit that I am indeed not a very clever individual. You know you're way around here, you know the MoS, and it'll be simple to use in reviews. That's my argument for ya. We are and sucks at the same time. But, it'll be like HBK vs Triple H, you know like in 2002; friend vs friend. Though, you have an advantage since you know Will and I don't know my partner, so. Oh no, me and my partner are gonna kick your guyses ass, despite me not knowing him. Let's make a bet, yeah? Oh, the lead. Check it out, do the drill. Also, I stopped at 2003, cause I couldn't come up with anything else to add, so help. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:21, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Thank you, that means a lot. But, I do have my "moments". No, I really don't. Apparently, he was looking for a partner, and I was sent an e-mail to sign up, but didn't have anyone to partner up with, so I volunteer to be my partner's partner, so yeah. Hopefully, we can work together, or else there's gonna be a problem. OMG, I totally forgot about the "cool person" thing, gotta add it to my page. Okay, the bet: Let's say that if me and my partner get eliminated, I have to put something "terrible" in my page, like a picture of someone who I despise, or something like that. If you can come up with something, let me know. :) Alright, I'll fix the lead and add your suggestions to it and let you know. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:54, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
I know, I hope it'll be fun, for both of us. Yeah, that's what I meant, vice-versa. If we get eliminated or you guys, an image of someone we despise goes on our page, respectively. Yeah, I'm actually hoping you guys lose, so I can see the John Cena image in your page. :) If I lose, I'll add an image of the Miz on my page, with the caption, "Yes, he has indeed have "defeats" against John Cena", so. LOL. You don't want Cena ruining your page? Hahaha, nice. I like the limit. This is war! :P Oh, I added the note. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 02:30, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
The war is on and I'm gonna win! Cool, cool. Yeah, your page looks awesome!!! Wait, what? Why knock? Also, I got the lead, so check it out. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 02:44, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
You're welcome. No, no insult to your name, I promise. Is just a strategy that people should be afraid of you. :) Okay, I'll add the lead to the article, work on my section, and then do a copy-edit on both Henry and DiBiase. Man, you must've been bored this morning to work on DiBiase's article. :P --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 14:30, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Alright, I did my part at DiBiase's article. Now, is on to Henry's article. Update: I'm done with Henry's article. Also, I couldn't find any sources, but I added two episode refs., that's all I could find. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 14:59, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

For the mood, I'm working on Cody Rhodes' lead and just wanted to let you know, so you don't become bored in the morning and decide to work on the article. :) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 18:17, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Yup, fear Nici!!!! But, she will lose at the Amazing Race competition. :) You're welcome, I'm just doing my job. Oh, cool. Due to the fact that you did more work on it, I think its only fair that I include your name in the nomination, so. :P Yup, you are, and I'm proud of you and you should be proud of you, too. Oh, I finished the lead for Rhodes, can you check it out? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:31, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Nope, you goin' down. :) Alright, I'll fix the lead. Also, I made some fixes to Rhodes' article, not sure if they are helpful, but I did my best. I think its pretty easy to get to GA. Um, I saw the Legacy article and it seems "steady", but what do you think? Is more work needed? Yes, I'm proud of you and you're proud of yourself. :P Update: I fixed the info. in the lead, take a look please. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:44, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Already done. Okay, you do that, I'll try to help in any way I can. :) Well, I'm having a hard time coming up with something for the sentence. I don't think its important to include that he lost his first WWE match against Randy Orton, so. Hmmm, that's a good question. If there was to be a section created, either a gimmick/concept, there needs to be sources included in them. Cause, if a new section is added, with no sources, then it would just seem like POV, OR, etc., from our view. But, if there is, sources, we can decide on concept, since its more encyclopedic to use. Update: I need your help on MNM's review. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 14:29, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, moving it might be a good idea. Okay, I'll add your suggestion, let you take another look, and decide what you want to do with it. There should be some sources available; commentary, specifically. To narrow your search, Orton was on the cover of WWE magazine, not that long ago, maybe he says something about Legacy. Cool, I was lost with some concerns, so I'd rather let you take a look and see what you thought of it. Thanks. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 16:06, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Cool, add it to the article if you want. Haha. Don't worry, I'll try to help you with the hunt sources. :) Yup, your suggestion was genius and you've been complimented for it. So, let's go with that "concept", no pun intended. ;) I agree, its about time. Now, we wait for your article. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 15:58, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
No, no. You do too much, you gotta give yourself a break in some areas. I found the following ---> [4][5], maybe a head start with the referencing and will look for more. :) Oh, snap! I didn't realize Evolution had the section. Even though I have edited the article. Nice work! True, being smart and stealing, works well. Yup, hopefully it won't be long. Let's cross our fingers, cool dude. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 03:04, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
I added that source to the Legacy article, but its since has been removed. I just added it because of Orton's theme song. Oh well. Totally agree. If that doesn't work, let's just steal Orton's concept and kick people on the head. Nah, I call everyone a dude, its just a habit of mine. I hope its cool. :P --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 03:17, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, I do have a dark side to me. Though, I don't like to show it here. Evil laugh. IDK, I guess we're attracted to bad boys. :) I mean, when I re-started watching wrestling, I saw Randy and was like, 'Oh snap!' Who's that handsome fellow'. BTW, this was in March 2006. A lot has changed since then. OMG, I know. But, in all fairness, Morrison turned babyface, so that's a good one for us. Nah, you a "vampire", so you evil. ;) Okay. How 'bout DX? They are fun. Cool, cool. I think dude would be better than dame, right? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 03:32, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I totally agree. They're just so gorgeous to look at. Yeah, Morrison works better as a heel, but this is working for him too. 'Member, he will turn heel in a while, cause they always do. Hmmm... Morrison is okay, not the gorgeous thing I've seen. Obviously you know who takes my breath away. ;) *scared by evil laughter of Nici's* I know, who are you? What happened to the kind Nici? Okay, I agree that being nice to guys, who want to waste our times, are idiots. F them. For reals? You want to do it? I'm on board. Yes, Legacy first, then DX. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 19:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Yup yup. Oh, no. But, she was so kind and sweet. :) For realsies? Yeah, it'll be a lot of work, but its worth it. They are DX. Couldn't agree more. Thank you. You deserve credit, too, so congrats, partner, on the hard work. ;) Also, Rhodes is looking good [the article]. Keep it up. P.S. Hopefully tonight is Jeff's night. :P --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 19:56, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Poor Nici had to be "taken out" to soon. I agree the Real World can be dangerous. The show and the real thing. :) Cool, I'll try to see if I can find any info. about DX and stuff. That's cool. It works good for you and GAN with holding off and reviewing. ;) Keep it up! --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 14:03, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I was wondering that, too, the other day. Yeah, MPJ told me to remove them from the infobox and I did. I guess - like DX - MNM had Jillian and Henry as members for one night. I guess, we worked on some extra GAs. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 14:49, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Its settled then. Yeah, hopefully the reviewer gets the review underway, so we can get this over with. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 15:18, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Yup. Good sportsmanship, I guess, good luck to you, too. No, me and my partner, will kick your guyses ass. :) Get ready to place that Cena image on your page. :P --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:23, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
No, you keep thinking that. :) Never gonna happen. When you put the Cena image up, I'll put the diff link in my page, with the caption next to it, "She was a fan all along." :P --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 19:13, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
You wish. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:55, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I'll give you that. IDK, I think I might withdraw from the competition. I have a hard time with DYK? and FLs. IDK, yet. How's the progress on Birch's review? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:12, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, too many changes, IMO. Hmmm, yeah if the user doesn't respond within days, I guess you can leave him a message or better at GAN. If the user doesn't respond, yeah remove his name from the nomination. Forgot to ask, how's Rhodes going for ya? Also, good job with the reviews, they are looking mighty fly. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:21, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Sounds good. No, I mean all that work you did has to be paid off... sooner or later. ;) You are welcome on that. True, how true. Question: I know we're doing DX after Legacy, but maybe we can work on something else and then work on DX... later. You know where I'm getting at? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:43, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Give it some time, don't worry. ;) No, its not too much work, I'm just saying. Let's go with the flow of working on what we've worked on, that way we have two done and work on our third one [DX]. Know what I mean? And no, its not Cena related. :P I don't think he's ever been part of a tag team of some kind. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:07, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
I am going to ignore your Cena comment, you hater. ;) I'm tired, too. Okay, we work on Legacy (first), we work on something else (second), and we work on DX (third). Get me? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:33, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Whatever, dude. :P Deuce 'n Domino? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 00:02, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
I feel ya on that. Now, I've been working on articles in my sandbox, in order to avoid controversy and all that stuff. Great. So, after Legacy you wanna start? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 00:19, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
That's fine, I don't see it as a problem. :) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 14:39, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Great. Yeah, I'll start working on Legacy, ASAP. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 15:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Amazing Race

Okay, our first challenge is to either write two DYKs or one FL. I vote FL, since we can knock that out in two weeks tops. The smart choice is the DYKs, since that could be a week. The questions are the articles. I say we should do both to be safe. Write two FLs and nominate them for DYK and FL. I nominate the following for selection: List of Pro Wrestling Guerrilla employees, List of Ring of Honor employees, and List of WCW World Television Champions. Now when it comes to articles that are not lists, I say Jesse Hernandez or Lauren Brooke (interviewer). What are your thoughts on what we should do? Also before you question how to do the rosters, it is simple. We do them like list of awards. Plus we have plenty of sources from PWG or ROH. Plus a few from PWTorch among others.--WillC 02:17, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Alright. Here I'll get started on the WCW TV Champions today on sorting. That is a bitch, sorting that is. We got WWE, PWTorch, Slam, and solie for it. We are covered on sources. All we really need is a history ref and a few results. The ECW TV, ECW Tag, WCW World, etc are all FLs. So it shouldn't be much of a problem. From looking at the article, the sorting and updating is the hard and mostly the entire part. I'll handle the main table, you handle the List of combined reigns table. Follow the FLs I've done recent at User:Wrestlinglover/Awards and Accomplishments to figure out how to do that and anything else. Once you get the hang of it, it becomes pretty simple. Now on to more important things. Why do you have to go to a funeral? My condolences.--WillC 08:07, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh, then direct my condolences to her then. I'll be waiting. You won't have to do it till the table is fully updated. It is mainly just adding up each person's reigns. Takes time, but isn't hard. Though the sorting is a bit tedious.--WillC 08:14, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't care which. Maybe both at the sametime. Championships have fixed format, while rosters have never been done. IMO we should do the championship, but then the roster would be a bit easier since we can get a DYK out of it because it only has one line of prose so we could write 5 more and it would be ready. Plus it is already in table form. But then there is still sorting involved. Not to forget the ips will be having a fit. I've talked myself into it. Roster first then WCW TV Champs.--WillC 08:24, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I remember. I write long ass lines. Well I'm going back to bed. See you in 2 hours when I get up to watch Angel.--WillC 08:30, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I'll be working on TNA BFG anyway.--WillC 08:34, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Can you explain a bit better? I have no idea what you are saying. I believe you are saying screw the roster, lets expand another article for DYK, and work on the TV Champs. Now one thing you said, was how do we get a 1500 characters for the roster. We have 7 sections to work on in that article. Each section will have its own section of prose. Like males wrestlers: In ROH there are a total of ?? active male professional wrestlers, with ?? inactive, coming to a grand total of ??. Currently there are two active male professional wrestling championships contested for in ROH—the ROH Championship and ROH World Tag Team Championship. Austin Aries is the current ROH World Champion, while Davey Richards and Eddie Edwards, collectively known as The American Wolves, are the current ROH World Tag Team Champions. The same will be done for each section. Explaining the needed things. The lead will just be an overtone of what a pro wrestling roster is made up of, etc. I've been thinking up how to make a roster an FL for months now.--WillC 03:12, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

What is the article?--WillC 10:37, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

At the moment I'm trying to get TNA Bound for Glory finished. After I get it done in here I plan to start on the WCW TV Champs, which should be by tonight. Good.--WillC 17:23, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
You are like me. I check them as well. There is one with an FLC. Nothing to worry about. By the time you get back on later, WCW TV Champs will be on DYK and probably ready for FLC. I can pop out an FL in a day now.--WillC 19:10, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
Likewise. Well I've done alot of these, and you get the hang of it as well. Plus I use the same format over and over so it speeds up everything at FLC. Not as many problems.--WillC 19:39, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
Great, soon we'll have another one.--WillC 19:57, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, right now only one group is above us.--WillC 19:54, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, tomorrow it won't matter much. I'll have WCW TV Champs done. Fourth of July was today so that held me up. I hate long ass lists. Table sorting is annoying, plus ones with non-complete info holds you up. Should have done the Hardcore Champions, too bad I had already begun work on it. Don't worry, you won't have to place a picture of Cena on your user page.--WillC 08:59, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, u don't care about us, and we don't care about you. How loving is the world? Yeah, I can see you understand the Cena statement.--WillC 09:06, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I'm Irish and that is the truth. From my studies of my family history on both sides, I've come to find out I'm part French, Irish, British, Germany, and Italian. Plus I believe there is part Norwegian or however you spell it.--WillC 09:15, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

They want your gold and lucky charms.--WillC 09:31, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

No, they still exist they just lost the stick and the green. They live among us now. You ever seen Austin Powers? Remember Mini-Me?--WillC 09:43, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Or that is what they want you to believe.--WillC 09:51, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Or is it?--WillC 10:05, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Maybe it is not is?--WillC 10:16, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

So you understand, good.--WillC 10:19, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Confusion? yes, yes, yes, yes, yes....Later? no, no, no, no, no, no.......maybe no, yes, yes, no no, maybe maybe maybe, likewise, yes. LOL :D--WillC 08:43, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Reset

Okay, I have all the faith in the world that I can get the TV Champions list to FL, but not at the moment. With the unknown dates, the research that it will take, etc I just will not be able to get it to DYK and FL within this week's time frame with the inconsistency in references. I have been thinking about searching for a new list to take to FL. If you have any ideas, throw them at me. I'm looking and I'll get back to you once I find something.--WillC 02:48, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I'll continue to work on WCW TV Champs in the future, but now I plan to work on one of the following for FL and DYK:

Which one do you think we should do?--WillC 04:11, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Shit, I gave a link twice. Anyway, I'm way ahead of you. I chose one I thought I could get done like that. And I did, say hello to the newest FLC and DYK nomination plus our ticket to the next round in the Amazing Race: MCW Heavyweight Championship.--WillC 12:37, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, that will teach you to underestamate me again. I started with it when it looked like this, and now it looks like this; a big change in under 10 hours, with 5 to spare, yes that is right it took me 5 hours to do that. Now it is nominated at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/MCW Heavyweight Championship/archive1. About to nominate it at DYK and the Amazing Race. Be on the watch for our detour.--WillC 12:52, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
IDK I don't read what goes on there, much. And I did tell you. Look above. Plus WWE Backlash was withdrawn, so updating would have to be done again anyway. I may just make me another FL, just so I can make you impressed again, because I like the attention. Read the first line of the FLC, you'll love it.--WillC 13:01, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Smartass is fun, being a pain is cool, being annoying is always joyful, but being an asshole is the best. To piss people off or make them laugh always brings a smile to my face. To know how bad I am, I made the preacher at my church so pissed I could tell he wanted to punch me, but I was smiling while he spoke to me, though he was shaking like a punch me clown with all the piled up rage inside. It was great.--WillC 13:08, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, about softball. Yeah, I got him pissed off at me over a softball league. Plus a guy who ran the softball league. *laughs evilly* I've told you time and time again, I am the son of the devil. When fire and brimstone falls from the sky, you'll probably finally believe me. Watch out for December 21, 2012, they are wondering, but they are wrong. We moved it up to December 20, 2012, to scare the shit out of them more. LOL--WillC 13:19, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Well, that is somewhat correct. My dad has always said my mother was a bitch, but I never believed him.--WillC 13:24, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, that is why I'm here. To bring joy and pain to others. I like you so it is the first one, for now. Plus a fairy dared me to do it.--WillC 13:30, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

User:Firestorm/Amazing Race Wikipedia/Wrestlinglover and NiciVampireHeart and Template_talk:Did_you_know#MCW Heavyweight Championship. Aren't I a good partner? Blue actually wanted me to be her's, so looks like I'm pretty wanted around here. I am a stud. *smiles likes a fool*--WillC 13:46, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Shit, I would have kicked both of your asses by myself. Neither one of you are good with lists. And you saw what I can do in 5 hours, imagine what I can do in 24. Also, I am very evil. I'm eating pancakes and making a friend of mine on im want to kill me because of it.--WillC 15:03, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Well, I wonder how long it will be till one of mine is approved and we get our detour.--WillC 15:12, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, should be done soon. Why don't you have a drives license? Sorry, saw the word license, and just went to it.--WillC 15:31, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

You told me you drove though. So, mixed messages. I drive, I hit a cat once. I wonder what happened to it.--WillC 15:45, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

You said you drove to school.--WillC 15:50, 7 July 2009 (UTC) My trust of you is now in question *acts like he is questioning you*--WillC 15:57, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Its cool. I don't have a link now, and I don't really want to look for one. It doesn't matter anyway.--WillC 16:04, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm not calling you a liar. Just one of us has either forgot or one of us is mistaken. I believe I remember when you told me freakishly. I have a damn good memory, and the day you told me was a day I almost wreaked. You said you had to drive to school the next day. That is what I remember.--WillC 16:12, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw. I wonder what our next challenge will be.--WillC 17:54, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I guess you are right. Well I'm taking a nap. You'll hear back from me when I know.--WillC 18:08, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
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