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USAA

Dear Movementarian:

Evidently, I have been "over-writing" and "re-over-writing" your work about the unincorporated reciprocal inter-insurance exchange [URIE] United Services Automobile Association [USAA].

Most of the over-writes were editing changes: but that is of course not the issue. And I regret the appearance.

Discussion:

First, I am a signed writer: so what I write is a matter of record. Second: I am told by lunkwill.org that I am "to discuss this situation", and work it out with . . . you? Is that correct? OK: first. what was written about USAA (and still appears on the lead-off page) is fundamentally incorrect: and simply regurgitates what the attorney in fact [AIF] for USAA wants the world to believe. So let's start with URIE vs "mutual": "mutual" insurance companies are expressly licensed and provided for under the Texas Insurance Code. USAA is a URIE, not a mutual. There is absolutely no similarity between the two except that mutual contains a notion of "policyholder ownership". If you read Reimuth on URIEs, you will see that there is nothing about "policyholder owmership" intrinsic to a URIE. Period! In a URIE, each "policyholder A" agrees to indemnify every other subscriber: and all the subscribers have agreed to indeminify "policyholder A". That's all there is to it: each subscriber is on the hook to all the other subscribers. The AIF is the stakeholder who holds the money: as a trustee of those funds, he may not invade those funds. If he was/hase been/is invaded those funds, then the AIF is a criminal. The AIFs at URIE USAA have 2.2 million members believing they "own" the URIE. I have a pleading made by USAA's lawyers in True v USAA which will disabuse you of that notion, toute de suite - mach schnell (or whatever): please give me your e-mail address. The "members "own nothing. USAA is not even an association! USAA is a URIE which has now admitted converting $5 billion of money belonging to the subscribers: in two separate books. Please let me loan you my private scanned searchable versions of those books. Now, maybe I'm wrong: maybe I'm right. But what is true is that what I believe has been arrived at after years of careful considered study. And I am prepared to defend my beliefs and conclusions in any forum. But it is also sadly true that USAA has arrest warrants out to stop me from writing on the question of USAA's intrinsic structure and the behavior of the AIF's. Robert G. Davis behaves like somebody who has been interrupted in the final stages of a "theft".

Sorry - but that is they way it look to me.

RobertJKoenig

Yugo

Thank you SO much for your great work on the Yugo article! Camerafiend 20:55, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Eric Lenge

I have rewritten the article about a leader of a coup in the Democratic Republic of the Congo in 2004. I would be grateful if you could have a look. Capitalistroadster 09:34, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

SAETA

Good work finding that. I have closed the AFD as speedy keep. — FREAK OF NUR_xTURE (TALK) 12:46, Dec. 17, 2005

Drink driving

Sorry, I had no idea that was real English. Camerafiend 15:00, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Good ol' Bob

Sorry, I don't seem to have the same amount of restraint as you do when it comes to our good friend Bob. I seem to really have gotten him on his soapbox. Oh well.... Glad I read your page though. Always good to come across another Irishman from the East Coast. Regards, Murph --Looper5920 08:50, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

AFD

Didn't mean to step on your toes, I reacted too quickly to the AFD being removed. Thanks for cleaning up William Malone Triona 06:18, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

L. L. Nunn

The rewrite looks fine, but can you add a few sources, so it doesn't end up being deleted for lack of verifiability later on? - Mgm|^(talk) 13:21, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

"The Ginger Fashions"

Nice catch on the speedy criteria for The Ginger Fashions. I really like what you said at User talk:F.E.a.R. Bravo! I took a quick review of your contributions to Wikipedia. Keep it up, and I am sure you will become an admin sometime this spring if you're up for it. I've put you on my admin potential watchlist. Sorry you're stuck on an island and hating it :) --Durin 19:25, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Whoops! To many such templates these days to keep track of. Regardless, your intent was spot on. Good show! --Durin 20:48, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

userbox proposed policy

Hi - there have been some slight alterations to my proposal subsequent to your support. I would be greatful if you could re-read the proposition and re-sign your name below the line if you still agree. Thanks, Deano (Talk) 20:17, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Bob

Sorry about the delay on the Bob 'RfC'. I signed my name. I hope I signed in the right spot. If you need anything else let me know.--Looper5920 20:31, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Fauna of Maine

I took a stab at rewriting a decent stub for the article. Take a look and see if you think it is worth keeping around. Cheers. Youngamerican 18:17, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Beer cats & kittens

It has been suggested by User:BrianSmithson and supported by User:Syrthiss that the Beer and brewery categories should be renamed. This proposal has been supported and expanded by myself. The notion is that the regional categories should follow the format of "Beer and breweries in Africa" /Europe/Asia/North America/South America/Oceania. "Brewers and breweries" could also be renamed "Beer and breweries by region". And all the countries should also be renamed (and merged if needed) as, for example, "Beer and breweries of Germany", "Beer and breweries of Britain", "Beer and breweries of Poland". The word in each case would be beer rather than beers to allow for general articles on beer culture in each region as well as individual beers.

Comments, suggestions, objections, free beer and simple votes to Wiki Beer Project SilkTork 15:29, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Poll

Your vote/opinion on brewery notability is requested here: [1] SilkTork 12:18, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Welcome back

Glad to see you back amongst the living, Mr. Movementarian! Kuru ^talk 00:19, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

RFA

No problem. However, the "5-6 months" suggested is an overstatement. If you want my advice, you should withdraw this RFA tomorrow, wait a month or so to show us you're serious about being back, and renominate (or get someone to do it for you). I'd estimate you'd have a good chance then. (Radiant) 14:50, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Per your withdrawal of your own nomination, I have closed it out and delinked your application from the main RFA page. I agree with Radiant that 5-6 months would be overkill, a few months of solid editing should be sufficient next time. If I have erred in any way, please let me know. -- nae'blis 21:24, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

delete of links on usaa entry...

I removed them because they were dead ends. I didn't realize that you were trying to inspire people. I had links that were dead ends and people came along and removed them. Now you come along and ask me why I removed the dead links. I thought it was a wiki thing...

Frankly, I think it is crass to put links to competitors (on any page about a company not just USAA). Is this entry about the target company (in this case USAA) or another company? Also, just becuase two companies sell the same thing (in this case insurance) doesn't make them competitors. For example AAA and USAA both sell insurance but don't target the same customers. I think that if people want to have a source of companies in and industry they should create an "industry page" with all the companies, large or small, suppliers, partners, and links galore...

So, what do you think?

Hillcountrygrump 22:31, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

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Beer category decision

A discussion has been opened on changes that have been made to the existing Beer category system. The changes reverse the decision made by the Project in April 2006. The changes were based on agreement by only two people, and by a discussion that took place outside the Beer Project. There may be some merit in the changes, and to prevent future conflict it is important that there is some discussion of the matter. If you're interested, please see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Beer#Brewery_cats. SilkTork *^YES! 17:42, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

List of Commander in Chief characters

Hi, do you have a suggestion on a new name for List of Commander in Chief characters per your comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Commander in Chief characters ?

I'd like to initiate a WP:RM on it, due to its confusing name.

70.29.212.131 (talk) 05:32, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Sure. Originally I thought it was a page for a list of people that have played the Commander-in-Chief on television, I didn't realise there was a television show called "Commander in Chief". Personally, I would change it to List of Commander in Chief (TV Series) characters. Movementarian (Talk) 06:06, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Move has been initiated. See Talk:List of Commander in Chief characters. Thanks for the suggestion. 70.29.212.131 (talk) 06:42, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

sammyrock0087

just asking, why do you keep getting rid of my trivia section on the cars video game page? trivia is fun and interesting to know. just sharing it with everyone else :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sammyrock0087 (talk • contribs) 20:55, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

As I posted on your talk page after I removed the trivia section, those types of sections are against the manual of style consensus policy. If you want to include the information included, work it into the article and provide references. Along with the manual of style, you may want to check out what Wikipedia is not. If you have any further questions, don't hesitate. Cheers. Movementarian (Talk) 21:04, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

sammyrock0087

oh ok thanks :) i was just wondering because a lot of articles I've seen do have trivia sections, but i don't know ??? :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sammyrock0087 (talk • contribs) 13:06, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

I worked the first bit of trivia into the article. The second one seems more for a game guide, not an encyclopaedia article. Some articles do have trivia sections, but it is preferred that they be temporary and that the information be worked into the article. Movementarian (Talk) 13:15, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

AFCENT/CENTAG

Glad you've got an article covering CENTAG under way. As you might have guessed, removal of the only material covering CENTAG was my main concern. I'm going to remove the section on Tapjin Barracks. The command HQ barracks, and its war headquarters, are appropriate. Unless we want to mention every barracks in the Army Group, creation of a seperate section for one other single barracks is completely inappropriate. Regards from NZ, Buckshot06 (talk) 08:23, 19 June 2010 (UTC) Also, are you aware of the Milhist style guideline regarding which name of an existing formation to use? The most recent name is almost always preferred. It would be better to name your new article Allied Forces Command Heidelburg. Buckshot06 (talk) 08:36, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Whoops. No. Either 'Forces Command Heidelburg' or 'Force Command Heidelburg,' whichever is official. 'Allied' just adds words, doesn't appear to be used in common use, and is not used in most of our other NATO command names. Buckshot06 (talk) 21:41, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

An AFD you participated in is being redone a day after it closed

I'm sending this to everyone who participated in the AFD for Crash (1984 TV series) who hasn't yet stated their case in the second nomination. Dream Focus 16:15, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Guidance?

Hi. You seem like a reasonable guy. On a recent AfD you mentioned starting a community discussion about administrator abuses. How would I go about starting something like that? Watching the reactions from admins when they are even constructively criticized, I am pretty much resigned to the fact that this problem will not be improved and will only continue to worsen. I was not in favor of Greg moving that article to mainspace, and I thought something good could have been made out of it after considerable work reorganizing it and ptesenting both sides more prominently. But he was the creator and apparently thought it was ready. Now I am not allowed to edit it at all even though my edits would have been along the lines of what is being talked about on the AfD. I think this topic needs to be addressed with an open discussion and without anyone fearing retribution for expressing views. I was a very polite and accommodating editor until about a week ago when I started noticing that some admins bully other editors and hold themselves above policy and conduct guidelines. (I'm not talking about Sarah -- I dropped that issue at your suggestion). Being treated unfairly or being disregarded is treatment that engenders disruption, and I am a good example of how that happened. I cant deny thay my behavior lately has been disruptive and contentious. I would like to continue to be a part of the community and be constructive and productive. I am asking you for guidance because you appear to me to be someone who is both knowledgeable and fair.Minor4th • talk 21:46, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the compliment. You need to keep in mind that changing any policy is a long process. I guess the first thing to do is familiarise yourself with WP:PGLIFE. Then I would suggest taking a look at WP:VPP and Wikipedia:PEREN#Adminship.

You need to identify exactly what you want changed and then propose how you want it changed. Avoid pointing out specific users and potentially inflammatory words such as "abuse". That will take a focus away from your point and start discussions about insignificant details, characterise your proposal as an attack page, and enable your opponents to question your motives. Take your time developing your proposal before you introduce it. Throwing something out there that is hastily cobbled together will also allow your motives to be questioned. Check for failed proposals along similar lines and see if there are concepts that had some support and cultivate them. Be ready to compromise with other editors. This may start as your proposal, but in order for it to become policy it has to have wide support.

If I might also offer some unsolicited advice. You and Greg should support the closure of the RfC and I would encourage Greg to request the article be speedily deleted (CSD G7). You have to make your efforts about the larger issue and avoid focusing attention on specific people. Good luck with your current troubles and don't hesitate to contact me in the future. Movementarian (Talk) 04:30, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Greg and I did both support closing and summarily deleting the RfC. And thank you for your guidance. If you dont mind, I will probably check back with you after I have read around and formulated a better idea about what it is I'm seeking. I appreciate your help. Minor4th • talk 05:11, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

No worries. I am always happy to help facilitate civil discourse. Movementarian (talk) 06:54, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

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Alfa Brewery

Just by chance i went there and took some photos. So 5 years later (you posted a photo request in 2005) there are some photos of it. --Weiderinder.de.vu (talk) 19:54, 14 October 2010 (UTC)