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I saw that you posted Template:Uw-paid1 at User talk:KWMR Radio. Please consider using Template:Uw-coi-username instead next time. WhatamIdoing (talk) 06:13, 22 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know. TotallyJimmyFallon (talk) 14:42, 22 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your username

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I read your report at WP:UAA, and I just want to make it clear I'm not trying to impersonate Jimmy Fallon or anything. I can see why you would think so, the "totally" doesn't fully make it clear, so I'll look into requesting a username change. TotallyJimmyFallon (talk) 00:41, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Andrada Polytechnic High School - A7 does not apply to schools.

Hello, I saw that you marked Andrada Polytechnic High School for speedy under 2 criteria, A7 and G11. I have gone ahead and deleted it under G11 as it was unambiguously promotional. However, for future reference I wanted to let you know that A7 does not apply to schools and educational institutions. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 21:54, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know. I can see it now in WP:CSD that A7 explicitly does not apply to educational institutions. Sorry for tagging the article with it, I must have glanced over it. MaterialWorks (talk) 22:56, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Warning re. The Catacombs of Solaris

Hi there, thanks for flagging the warning provided on my talk page about the page The Catacombs of Solaris. What happened in that situation is that I was using the page, which I had created, as a template to create another page, Bernband. It looks like I made a mistake and attempted to create the article in the Catacombs edit box with what I thought was the new article field. Thanks again for the pickup on that. Vrxces (talk) 01:08, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's an honest mistake, no problem with that. Feel free to remove the warning on your userpage if you want. MaterialWorks (talk) 01:36, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Rollback granted

Hi MaterialWorks. After reviewing your request, I have enabled rollback on your account. Please keep the following things in mind while using rollback:

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Use of rollback at Alicia M. Soderberg

Hi MaterialWorks. I noticed that you recently used rollback to roll back this edit to Alicia M. Soderberg while using Huggle. The content that you restored claimed that the article subject is suffering from "alcohol addiction", and was sourced to a primary source crime log in a local paper and an arrest log in another local paper. These are not generally acceptable as sources in line with WP:BLPCRIME, and neither of the sources state that she actually has an alcohol addiction. I appreciate your work to combat vandalism, and I understand that edits where an IP removes sourced content without providing a reason are commonly vandalism. Going forward, please be careful to check that the edit you are rolling back is vandalism and that the content you are going to restore is properly sourced, especially when the article is a BLP. Happy editing! — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 22:30, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm awfully sorry, I really should've checked it before reverting. I did that rollback shortfully after gaining rollback rights, so I wasn't fully acquainted with the responsibilities or with using Huggle. I'll keep this issue in mind for the future. Thanks for notifying me! MaterialWorks (talk) 23:03, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Not a problem! Mistakes happen, especially when getting used to the tool and the responsibilities with rollback. Keep up your good work! — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 05:36, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please stop changing the title of this article? There is no use of massacre in the Peruvian media nor well know international news outlets. This is being changed by politically motivated persons, please Stop.

Could you please stop changing the title of this article? There is no use of massacre in the Peruvian media nor well know international news outlets. This is being changed by politically motivated persons, please Stop. 2A04:EE41:7:6028:9459:A0A3:1231:87A1 (talk) 11:28, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Proxy Firm

My edit was removed because it linked to an outside source. However, I'm not sure why it didn't come under the list exception. Under the heading "Global industry" the three largest US and one Indian firm are listed and linked. I attempted to add another firm iconikapp.com that is a vote service provider largely for individuals.

As the current entry on Proxy Firm notes: "not all firms provide voting recommendations and those that do may simply execute client voting instructions." iconikapp.com helps mostly individuals (but also institutions) create a proxy voting policy and have it voted automatically. The firms listed in the existing entry allow customers to automatically vote as the advisor recommends or according to a policy provided by the subscriber.

It seems to me the existing list is incomplete without the link to iconikapp.com which offers a very similar service. It appears I would need to add a page on iconikapp.com first and then link to that Wikipedia entry at the Proxy Firm entry. Is that correct? Corpgovnet (talk) 00:05, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit looked like a WP:SPAMLINK, given that it came from an IP address with no other contributions, and the slightly weird wording around it. I have given a deeper look at it, and it seems fine.
Not sure about that last part of your message, but you could try messaging the person who removed the other links from the article and debate it with them. MaterialWorks (talk) 01:58, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Revisions

Hey 96.61.91.149 (talk) 00:55, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Rhona Mitra

Thank you for your comment on my (shared) IP talk page about my edit to Rhona Mitra. Sorry, I got distracted while adding information about Mitra's appearance on Ben Fogle: New Lives in the Wild shown last night on Channel 5 (UK), and I never got to finish my edit session properly. However, this has raised one question on how I can reference the content of a TV show? - I have been unable to find a transcript, and the only other reference I have been able to find is a brief program summary & review at the Radio Times: https://www.radiotimes.com/programme/b-9bir4k/ben-fogle-new-lives-in-the-wild-season-17/?episode=b-ppm2f4 (this is the same reference used in the show's article for the episode S17E4). I have added a brief line about her appearance on the show in the list of television appearances (this time with the above reference), but I would like to add a "Personal life" section to the article on Mitra, and include some of the details that viewers learned about Mitra's life since 2012. Even though I am an experienced Wikieditor from years ago, some guidance would be useful on how best to achieve this. 134.238.51.161 (talk) 20:29, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You should look for reliable sources that cover her personal life (i.e. most things that are not directly related to her work). I'd say that reference is good, but other editors might find otherwise. MaterialWorks (talk) 21:08, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Seems there is now a lengthy review of last night's show available online. However, it is on the Daily Mail here: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11668049/I-gave-glamorous-career-actress-live-farm.html, but I am concerned about using this source as I read a little while ago that Wikipedia no longer considers the Daily Mail as a reliable source. 134.238.51.161 (talk) 21:27, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, you shouldn't use the Daily Mail as a source, especially for BLPs. You should probably wait a bit for other news articles to be created, but if no reliable source comes up, then you may have to consider not adding the info. MaterialWorks (talk) 21:47, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Wikipedia:ROLLBACKVECTOR22" listed at Redirects for discussion

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The Melody of Rhythm

Hi, I recently modified the Wikipedia entry for this album, as it inaccurately credits the album to only one person, Bela Fleck. It is the work of a trio. I added his collaborators' names - tabla player and percussionist Zakir Hussain and bassist Edgar Meyer - to the first sentence of the entry, and to the info box, and I removed the Bela Fleck chronology part of the info box. I suppose it would make more sense to add multiple chronologies to the info box (that of Hussain and Meyer). At any rate, I saw that the reason for removing my edits is that they were uncited. I did not think it needed to be cited since their names appear together, in alphabetical order, on the album. Furthermore, there is no citation included which would justify crediting this album solely to Fleck and thus implicitly treating it as a solo album of his. Were I to cite my edits, The AllMusic entry for the refers to the three album's performers/composers together, under the title of the album, separating their names with /'s. The other issue is perhaps a bit more complicated: I modified the title of the opening track from Babar to Bahar, a Hindi/Urdu word for springtime, mentioning in my editing comment that Meyer can be heard introducing the song (clearly enunciating its title as "Bahar") with Hussain then supplying the English translation, in the NPR Tiny Desk Concert performance the trio gave in 2010. I could provide the link and time stamp if necessary. However, it seems that the album itself was first issued with a misprint, and "Babar" is what is seen on the back cover with the track listing; something that has been copied uncritically in places like AllMusic. Please advise. Premiumshlock (talk) 01:15, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted your edit not because it was uncited, but because you removed content without adequately explaining why. Tools like Huggle revert all consecutive edits by a user by default, which is why the other edits were affected. Feel free to reinstate your edits to the article. MaterialWorks (talk) 02:24, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Changes in the page of Maratha Empire

There are some changes to be made in the Wikipedia page of Maratha Empire. The first is the script of the official language of the empire which is Marathi and The Seal of Emperor Shivaji I is not the seal of the Empire. It was used till 1680 and many monarchs, Peshwas and nobles used their own. But, even after continuously correcting it, one Norwegian gentleman is repeating the same wrong exits. 2405:204:971F:6D68:0:0:A84:A0AD (talk) 20:41, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You should probably discuss this with User:Arjayay. They made the first revert, I reverted your edit simply because you removed content without explaining why. MaterialWorks (talk) 20:51, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Hostess Potato Chips

I’m sorry I wasn’t aware. Thank you for your concerns. -174.91.109.231 (talk) 02:20, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

KSKQ

I'm trying to update information on the KSKQ radio station.

My name is Brad Smith and I'm the News Director. I used information from our website. How else am I going to update it? BradSmith313Z (talk) 21:50, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I replied on your talk page, please check it. @BradSmith313Z: 21:52, 1 April 2023 (UTC) MaterialWorks ping me! 21:52, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

MfD nomination of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kanye West (2nd nomination)

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Penumbras United States.

I removed the “right for parents knowing what their kids are learning” because it has never been explicitly ruled on, unlike the other implied rights. For example, the right to privacy was decided as precedent in Griswold v Connecticut. The “right for parents knowing what their kids are learning” has never been decided, so therefore it is not an implied right yet. While some cases like Wisconsin v Yoder have let parents withdraw their kids from school based on the content in school, the court has never required the school to inform parents exactly what goes on in school. 72.19.133.130 (talk) 23:47, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@72.19.133.130: Please read the warning on your talk page. It says it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary.. If you believe your edit is constructive, please restore it with an edit summary explaining why you made that change. MaterialWorks (contribs) 00:14, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Page mover granted

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Hum Rahe Na Rahe Hum

The page which you moved to Hum Rahein Na Rahein Hum after the brief move discussion on talk page has been restored to previous version by an editor who went against talk page consensus instead of starting a new move discussion. Please warn that editor and rename the page according to move discussion which supported the move according to the official streaming app Sony LIV and broadcasting channel Sony Entertainment Television Pri2000 (talk) 20:24, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. MaterialWorks (contribs) 21:19, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @MaterialWorks, @Pri2000 I'm glad you highlight and you fixed to restore the stable version. Thank you both for the quick response. C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 12:20, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Closing move requests...

1) ... with no comments. Per WP:RMNOMIN, "No minimum participation is required for requested moves. If no one has objected, go ahead and perform the move as requested unless it is out of keeping with naming conventions or is otherwise in conflict with applicable guidelines or policy." [underline added]  This appears to be the case with:

... but they were closed as "The result of the move request was: not moved." May I ask why?

2) ... with no consensus. Per the next paragraph, "If objections have been raised, then the discussion should be evaluated just like any other discussion on Wikipedia: lack of consensus among participants along with no clear indication from policy and conventions normally means that no change happens (though like AfD, this is not a vote and the quality of an argument is more important than whether it comes from a minority or a majority). However, sometimes a requested move is filed in response to a recent move from a long existing name that cannot be undone without administrative help. Therefore, if no consensus has been reached, the closer should move the article back to the most recent stable title. If no recent title has been stable, then the article should be moved to the title used by the first major contributor after the article ceased to be a stub." [underline added; two further explanatory paragraphs not quoted]  The situation underlined here appears to be the case with:

... but when these were closed as "no consensus", again no return was made to their stable status quo ante. May I ask why? – .Raven  .talk 17:22, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@.Raven: I did not move the pages back because of the RfC currently happening at WP:NCWS. Moving them before a decision is reached is a waste of time, and keeping them on the backlog until the RfC finishes is also not a good decision. I'll update the closing comments to reflect why I closed them as such. MaterialWorks (contribs) 17:38, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@MaterialWorks: As noted at the RfC at NCWS, "Since they cite and quote the current text of WP:NCWS#Alphabets, they are unaffected if this RFC fails. Since they are also compatible with this RFC's proposal(s), they are unaffected if this RFC succeeds. In other words, they are unaffected by this RFC either way." [italics as in orginal] The RFC affects only alphabets for specific uses which are not language-specific (e.g. ISO basic Latin alphabet, International Phonetic Alphabet), and clarification of multi-language general alphabets (arguably N'Ko, though that is specific to Manding languages, and preceding discussion had said "language specific" could mean to "one or more languages"). The alphabets listed in the top comment here, however, are all single-language alphabets – unambiguously covered by the current definition: "'Alphabet' is used for language-specific adaptations of a segmental script, usually with a defined sorting order and sometimes with not all of the letters, or with additional letters:". – .Raven  .talk 19:28, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Right, I'll revert the closes and let someone else deal with this, since I'm not really sure what the best course of action is. MaterialWorks (contribs) 19:42, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. Thank you! – .Raven  .talk 00:40, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've gone ahead and closed them all as moved. You were both reasonable in your actions throughout. My only further comment is to .Raven in that it might have been easier (both for you and for the discussion and resolution) to list all of these as a single move request. But, no harm, no foul. Cheers! - UtherSRG (talk) 10:18, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ooops!

I replied on your archived thread because you pointed me there. I hadn't realized it was archived already. You may want to consider not archiving something if you are going to point someone at it. :D Archiving implies closed. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:44, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine! I completely forgot to unarchive it before linking it to you, sorry for that. – MaterialWorks 11:48, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bassa Vah alphabet

Just FYI that your move might need to be reversed if the NCWS is changed or simply left as-is per the RfC to clarify this kind of situation (whether the script or alphabet is primary in an article that covers both), since that is one of the two topics in the RfC. — kwami (talk) 22:29, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That is in fact not one of the proposals made by the current RFC. And you yourself had declared earlier on the same talkpage: "Any alphabet article is likely to have some background info on the script, esp. if the script is predominantly a single alphabet, and I don't see how calling in an 'alphabet' would make the article hostile to such info...." [kwami, 12:56, 5 August 2011 (UTC)]
In any case, the current text of WP:NCWS#Alphabets reads: "'Alphabet' is used for language-specific adaptations of a segmental script, usually with a defined sorting order and sometimes with not all of the letters, or with additional letters" — according to which Bassa Vah (a single alphabet specific to the Bassa language) is an alphabet — and the RFC does not propose that it isn't. – .Raven  .talk 22:49, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RM closure at Talk:ONE Championship

Sorry, but I find your RM closure at Talk:ONE Championship rather dubious. After a claim that all sources that use the proposed form are old, three supporting already-cited sources were identified that were one year old or less, and there was no response to that. The position in favor was supported by the Wikipedia MoS, and the last comment in opposition was based only on a vague unsourced claim about "most people". The number of editors in favor of the move was equal to the number opposed, so how can a consensus be declared to not move the article? Based on what? I suggest to revert the closure and possibly to relist it (see WP:RMRELIST). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 20:42, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I evaluated everyone's arguments, and I couldn't ignore the sources brought up by 162. Like they said, the majority of the sources listed used the all-caps styling. Since I couldn't find a policy supporting your claim that When sources are mixed, Wikipedia avoids all-caps in such cases, I didn't evaluate is as well as 162's !vote. Looking back at it, a "no consensus" result would've probably been more appropriate, but since it's essentially "keep the status quo", I don't think it makes much difference.
Also, regarding the revert/relist, the discussion was already up for almost 2 weeks, which is about the time a RM with a relisting stays up. I don't think relisting it is appropriate, since there was enough time for it to get more responses. – MaterialWorks 21:43, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Re "I couldn't find a policy supporting your claim ...", that seems very well established to me; please see WP:TITLETM ("Items in full or partial uppercase (such as Invader ZIM) should have standard capitalization (Invader Zim)") and MOS:ALLCAPS ("Reduce text written in all capitals in trademarks – see WP:Manual of Style/Trademarks") and MOS:TM ("Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization practices, even if the trademark owner considers nonstandard formatting "official", as long as this is a style already in widespread use, ..." and MOS:TMRULES: "Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization practices, even if the trademark owner considers nonstandard formatting "official", as long as this is a style already in widespread use ... avoid: TIME, KISS, ASUS, SONY Mobile") and MOS:CAPS ("Wikipedia avoids unnecessary capitalization.") —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 22:45, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Right, I see it now. I'll reopen the RM. – MaterialWorks 22:53, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Prior comment clarified with boldface addition above. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 23:17, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Prayagraj airport > Prayagraj Airport

Thanks a lot Бмхүн (talk) 20:10, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. – MaterialWorks 20:17, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

move at Talk:History of Israel (1948–present)

Hi MaterialWorks, you closed the move at Talk:History_of_Israel_(1948–present)#Requested_move_18_April_2023 as not moved. Can I ask you to take another look as two of the three oppose !votes are by socks of banned users? Think without those votes theres a clear consensus to move. nableezy - 03:30, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Nableezy: Thanks for bringing it up with me. Per WP:SOCKSTRIKE#Closed discussions, I've opened a new RM on the matter, since the sock !votes did significantly affect the outcome. Chefallen did bring up valid points, so I don't think straight up changing the outcome is appropriate. – MaterialWorks 14:55, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi MaterialWorks. I'm not a sockpuppet. They made a mistake and I was unblocked. I think the previous RM outcome should be respected. Thanks and sorry for the trouble. Dovidroth (talk) 04:13, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Dovidroth: Thanks for reaching out, good to know it was a mistake. However, the RM will stay up, since it has ran for almost 3 days and there has been a good amount of discussion. I don't know if there are any cases like this one, so I don't really have a precedent to follow. – MaterialWorks 11:33, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

State to State (808 State albums)

Hi, I'm surprised to see this relisted? I linked an AFD in the discussion that shows a consensus to merge the article; It should not exist, making the RM moot. 162 etc. (talk) 16:12, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@162 etc.: The RM is not moot. Whether or not the article should be kept up is completely unrelated to the RM and should decide whether it should or shouldn't be relisted. Though, you are free to open a deletion discussion about it, if you believe it should be deleted (but please don't BOLDly redirect it). – MaterialWorks 18:27, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Another discussion should not be necessary; there is consensus from that 2021 AFD. The article should not have been recreated, or at least not without going through AFC. 162 etc. (talk) 21:50, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Consensus isn't permanent, and recreating deleted pages isn't prohibited (though that's very regulated (and the reasons for deletion should be taken into account)). If an editor comes to the conclusion that the albums deserve to have a separate article, and is able to fix the problems that led to the deletion/merge/redirect/whetever, they can create it.
PS: Don't know if it really needed to go through AfC, I'm not very familiar with that process.– MaterialWorks 22:45, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hm, it does appear that an article AFD'd for notability can be boldly recreated if more reliable sources are found. See WP:RADP. We'll let this one play out. Thanks! 162 etc. (talk) 02:10, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Page mover granted

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Information icon Please do not introduce links in actual articles to draft articles, as you did to 2023 Copa do Brasil. Since a draft is not yet ready for the main article space, it is not in shape for ordinary readers, and links from articles should not go to a draft. Such links are contrary to the Manual of Style. These links have been removed. Thank you. - Arjayay (talk) 12:31, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Mertens" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Allahabad Chheoki Junction railway station

move to> Prayagraj Chheoki railway station thanks a lot Prayagraj had already moved 149.78.185.131 (talk) 16:42, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@149.78.185.131: I see there has been a move request and multiple unofficial requests for a name change, so it's probably best for you to open an WP:RM. – MaterialWorks 18:56, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Closure of Talk:Horgos, Xinjiang#Requested move 29 May 2023

I was leaving a !vote to move somewhere else but was edit-conflicted by your close. Could you please re-open? Thank you! CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 19:23, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah sure, no problem. – MaterialWorks 19:26, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mertens

I mistakenly requested a move for Mertens (disambiguation), I ment Mertens (surname), should I renominate the page to be moved again? ErceÇamurOfficial (talk) 08:53, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@ErceÇamurOfficial: You could nominate it again, but I doubt a move will go through, seeing the previous discussions. – MaterialWorks 00:06, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the edits you are making that use the {{section link}} template: note that pages archived by ClueBot III will search for sections that were archived and fix the links to point to the archived version. I'm not sure it will work for section links that use the template. I suggest being careful about editing pages that may point to archiveable sections. isaacl (talk) 21:33, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Noted. – MaterialWorks 00:06, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I raised the issue at Cluebot's talk page.
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Haha this is so annoying, when are they going to fix it? Dr. Vogel (talk) 10:22, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Knowing the WMF, they would only fix it after some major vulnerability comes out. Even then, they'd just probably disable it and leave it in a limbo... – MaterialWorks 11:25, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Page move review Proton_AG > Proton_(Swiss company)

Hello,

Recently there was a page move request for the company Proton_AG to move to Proton_(company). The outcome of the page move discussion was that the Proton page was moved to Proton_(Swiss_company). I opened a page move review (that you helped out with - thanks!) which Endorsed this change.

However, I would argue that Proton_(Tech_company) or Proton_(Internet_company) are better options, if Proton_(company) is not possible. While it is true that Proton is headquartered in Switzerland, 99% of people who use Proton services are not Swiss and probably are not even aware that Proton is a Swiss company.

Are you able to move the page to one of the suggested titles, or would you recommend that I reopen a page move request?

Thanks!

Octazooka (talk) 10:52, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Octazooka: I can't move the page, as it would go against the consensus achieved in the RM and the MRV. You could open a new request, though I don't think it'll get much support, seeing the amount of discussion around moving this page and how many people supported using the swiss disambiguator. – MaterialWorks 11:02, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Okay thank you for the clarification! Octazooka (talk) 12:33, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for your efforts

The Current Events Barnstar
In recognition of your contributions to the articles Nahel Merzouk protests and Killing of Nahel Merzouk. --Cdjp1 talk 15:58, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! – MaterialWorks 16:23, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:B.B. King

Hi Material, thanks for closing the B. B. King RM. Can you also move the above category, as well as subcategories, to match the article? Thanks, ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 19:01, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Neveselbert: Thanks for reaching out, but I don't have a lot of experience moving categories, and it seems to be too complex for me, considering all the post-move cleanup necessary. I think you should open a speedy request under WP:C2D over at CfD. Thanks. – MaterialWorks 19:15, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
OK thanks, will do. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 19:16, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Greeting MaterialWorks! I've just thanked Neveselbert for his work on this matter —dare I say issue?— and now see from my watchlist that you've also been involved in this process... I therefore extend my thanks to you (and all those who have had the pateience to see this through). Cheers! --Technopat (talk) 21:42, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No problem! – MaterialWorks 22:02, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Football moves

Can you please stop move national football team’s articles. The closer has not accurately summarised the discussion. Tvx1 23:00, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Tvx1: User:Stevie fae Scotland is doing the majority of the moves. If you think the closure is incorrect, please talk to the closer. – MaterialWorks 23:04, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have. Please do not execute any more moves and ask @Stevie fae Scotland no to either Tvx1 23:07, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for tagging me. Happy to wait until it's discussed with the closer. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 23:19, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Great to hear that. Now we’ll have to wait for the closer’s response. Tvx1 23:28, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I find it pretty hypocritical that you’re waving 3RR at me, when you’re the one actually repeatedly reverting me. Tvx1 23:27, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
3RR applies to both of us, you reverting the close and me reverting your reverts. I'm not waving anything at you. – MaterialWorks 23:29, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Close at List of spaghetti Westerns

Hi, I’m puzzled by your “no consensus” close at Talk:List of spaghetti Westerns#Requested move 30 August 2023. As nom I’m biased but I think the strength of arguments clearly favored the Support side. And the numbers were 60/40 in favor of Support. Normally that’s more than enough to find consensus. Unless you have a good explanation, I request you either reverse or at least revert your close. Thanks. В²C ☎ 07:07, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Born2cycle: I considered both that discussion and the previous one, and I couldn't find a straight consensus for it. I don't believe 60/40 is enough to conclusively decide that it should be moved. In any case, this really should've been decided at MRV in the first place, and I think you should open a discussion there. – MaterialWorks 14:51, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The first part of the MRV process is discussion with the closer on their talk page. If the above is indeed all you have to offer for clarification and refuse to revert, unfortunately, a formal MRV is indeed the next step. If you do have anything else to add please explicate here rather than save it for the MRV. Solid reasoning may avoid a time-costly MRV. Thanks. В²C ☎ 23:57, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have anything to add. – MaterialWorks 00:03, 23 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Move review for List of spaghetti Westerns

An editor has asked for a Move review of List of spaghetti Westerns. Because you closed the move discussion for this page, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the move review. В²C ☎ 04:19, 23 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Move Review for Kanye West

You shut down the discussion prematurely, so I am challenging this as I previously stated.--Rusf10 (talk) 01:58, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Archived talk pages

Hi. I realized U deleted my request. Now please move those two archives.197.1.169.133 (talk) 20:05, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Office 365 wasn't moved, it was merged into Microsoft 365. As such, there's no need to move those pages. — MaterialWorks 20:08, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If that is the case with the mainspace, is it OK if I ask Y wouldn't that be the case for talk pages and archived talk pages?197.1.169.133 (talk) 20:11, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Mostly for attribution purposes, but also to keep discussions organized (it would be weird to have comments about the state of the Office article in the Microsoft 365 talk page). — MaterialWorks 20:18, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand. According to talk:office 365/Archive 2, the last comment archived was posted on April 2020. In fact, after the merge was taken place in May 2021 (as far as I can tell), no (major) discussions (at least) was made at either talk page. What I was thinking is if the archived talk pages were moved, then there would have been a notification banner at the top of the page stating that "the below posts were made before the merge". Would this change have taken place, the first talk page archive of talk:microsoft 365 would have been third in this case. Please explain this to me.197.1.169.133 (talk) 20:46, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

On Kaitiakitanga RM request

Heya, delete-redirect is a pagemover right, but anyone can delete a redirect as long as the redirect page has one revision in its history and is directly redirecting to requested page. Hence my question to find out if there's any other technicalities that is preventing the requester from moving the page themselves. – robertsky (talk) 03:43, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Hilda Hilst

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Move cleanups

In May, you did a bunch of moves like this one, for which I thank you. But you didn't clean up the over-capitalization in the articles moved, nor in articles that link to them. I've been working on those, but would be happy to have help. Dicklyon (talk) 03:53, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Dicklyon: I think it would be far more efficient to make a bot request to clean these up, seeing the amount of pages that were moved. — MaterialWorks 14:43, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I've had some luck with that approach. I hadn't seen this batch of moves, or I would have brought it up sooner. You want to do the request? Dicklyon (talk) 18:05, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I see there were nearly 100 such moves, circa May 20–27. For updating the leads, infobox titles, prev/next links and other links, a bot should be easy; alternatively an AWB task with some interactive attention to get it all right might be good. Dicklyon (talk) 18:14, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'll do some work with AWB and look into the bot later. — MaterialWorks 18:17, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for those 144 edits! Looks great. Dicklyon (talk) 21:00, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What did you do at Timiș (disambiguation?

As far as I can tell, you have "extendedmover" but not the ability to delete pages, so when you wanted to move Timiș to Timiș (disambiguation) but couldn't move-over-redirect you instead moved the existing page to a typo title and then flagged it as {{db-redirtypo}}? If you're going to do crap like that, use {{db-moved}} as the correct template. Or, maybe better, let an admin handle it without the move to a garbage title (tag it with {{db-move}} if you want). Anomie⚔ 12:02, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Anomie: I didn't move to the typo title on purpose, it was a mistake. I simply didn't notice that it was missing the closing parentheses before moving it.— MaterialWorks 12:06, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for coming on so strong here. It looks like the initial move of Timiș to Timiș (disambiguation was the accident, then you used a script to swap Timiș (disambiguation with the redirect at Timiș (disambiguation)? Ok, mistakes happen. {{db-moved}} would still have been better than {{db-redirtypo}} though, as WP:CSD#R3 is for recently-created redirects, not 13-year-old redirects accidentally moved to the wrong title. Anomie⚔ 12:33, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I'll keep this in mind. — MaterialWorks 12:37, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Hilda Hilst

On 18 November 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hilda Hilst, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Hilda Hilst impersonated a journalist to meet Marlon Brando, and asked him about Franz Kafka's works? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hilda Hilst. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Hilda Hilst), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Kusma (talk) 00:02, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Ashley Lawrence (soccer)

Hi. Why didn't you move this along with the article? Jenks24 (talk) 08:26, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Jenks24: It wasn't moved because Talk:Ashley Lawrence was a redirect, which meant that the page couldn't be moved automatically (or at least that's what I think is the cause). I can move the page later if you want, or you could file a request at WP:RM/TR. — MaterialWorks 11:20, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I assume it wouldn't have allowed you to move over the redirect as delete-redirect would not apply automatically to the accompanying talk page (see phab:T12814, similar issue even for sysops requiring multiple actions in a case like this). If you had just missed that talk page didn't get moved along with it that would make sense to me, that's fairly common. But I don't understand this edit because it means you noticed the talk page wasn't synchronised with its article and that edit also made you unable to fix it using delete-redirect. Could you please get an admin to fix it either at RM/TR or tagging it G6? Thanks, Jenks24 (talk) 12:09, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
trout Self-trout, had a brainfart there. I'll see what I can do. — MaterialWorks 12:20, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, appreciated. Jenks24 (talk) 12:21, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Jenks24:  Done by Hey man im josh. — MaterialWorks 14:12, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Special:WantedTemplates

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 Done, thanks for alerting me! — mw (talk) (contribs) 16:49, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

WiG Editathon Barnstar – October 2023

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At last – here is your barnstar! Thank you for your excellent contributions to GA nomination Hilda Hilst during the WiG "Around the World in 31 Days" Good Article editathon. I hope we'll continue to see more of you and your work at WP Women in Green going forward. Best, Alanna the Brave (talk) 18:03, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! — mw (talk) (contribs) 18:47, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Yurkey" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Perform requested move

Hey there Hilst! I want you to move SC de Goa, SC Bengaluru and Mohammedan as it has been seven days since I proposed requested move. Thanks! – 𝙰𝚔𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚟™ 🗿 03:25, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. BTW, you don't need to go around asking page movers to close move requests. We'll do it eventually. – Hilst [talk] 11:02, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MASS COUNTRY

Hello Hilst, any reason why the article was demoted from B-Class to C-Class as it is well-written, all out sourced with reliable sources and ultimately meets the criteria listed under B-Class? I'll be on the lookout for your response, Thank you.

@Dxneo: It fails the second criteria. It would need to be expanded a bit to be assessed as B-Class. – Hilst [talk] 01:05, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It states that the article may need expansion, and from what I've heard already is that the article is a good candidate of GA it only lacks critical review which is not easy to find in South African music. But it's okay I'll work on it Thank you. dxneo (talk) 19:25, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for your help with the template! I am currently trying to create the template and it is my first time working with code ish stuff. Could you help? Geardona (talk to me?) 13:44, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, no problem. – Hilst [talk] 13:58, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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Please review your close at Isabella II

Hi. Would you mind taking a closer look at your close at Talk:Isabella II of Spain#Requested move 26 January 2024? My concern is that though there are a significant number of opposers, they all opposed based on the undisputed ambiguity of “Isabella II”, but without addressing nom’s pre-emptive rebuttal to this position by pointing out this Isabella II is “already the primary topic”. This point about PT was reiterated by every Support !vote because ambiguity is not a policy-based reason to oppose when the topic is primary for the proposed title. Furthermore, no one challenged the PT claim probably because PT has been established here for 20 years with the Isabella II WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT to this article. In short, Opposition is not policy-based at all, while Support is solidly based on SOVEREIGN as well as PT.

I should note that in a similar recent RM at Talk:Ferdinand VI#Requested move 22 December 2023 the closer, upon reviewing WP:SOVEREIGN, found consensus to move despite an 8 to 3 opposition majority because “none of the Oppose votes are actually based in policy”. This close was strongly endorsed at Move Review and even lauded as a textbook example of a great Wikipedia close, assessing WP:CONSENSUS not according to how people voted, but by actually considering which votes followed policy and which didn't. Please ensure you’re doing that here too, okay? Thanks! —-В²C ☎ 18:20, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Born2cycle: You're right. I'll reopen the discussion, because I believe "Isabel II" vs. "Isabella II" should be discussed further before closing as moved. – Hilst [talk] 18:43, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you

The Original Barnstar
Thank you very much for your help with my Max Zähle issue, I didn't expect someone responding so quickly to my request. And additionally you did all the neccesary maintainance stuff like editing the article and talk page themselves. Thank you again. Cyfal (talk) 21:17, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No problem :) – Hilst [talk] 21:22, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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