Jump to content

User talk:Keith D/Archive 47

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Archive 40Archive 45Archive 46Archive 47Archive 48Archive 49Archive 50

16:31, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Grammar

Thanks for correcting my grammar at Somalis in the United Kingdom. I must have left that word in by mistake when rewording the sentence. Cordless Larry (talk) 13:31, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - February 2015

Delivered February 2015 by MediaWiki message delivery.
If you do not wish to receive the newsletter, please add an N to the column against your username on the Project Mainpage.

01:38, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Advice needed

Hi Keith, as you are an admin working on WikiProject Yorkshire, I would appreciate your advice re Cross Hills. First, the article has come under attack by this person who is subject to site-wide WP:BAN. He is using IP:217.39.74.176 and User:Cross Hills1. Given his persistence once he hits on a target, I think the article should be protected for a suitable period. Secondly, I'm a little concerned by the recent edits of User:Strategic1900 and IP:87.115.59.60, evidently the same person, as the stuff about a day nursery seems to constitute advertising especially with words like "very popular" and the use of bold text. Thanks very much. Jack | talk page 16:08, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, I have tweaked the article to remove the bold, "very popular" and moved the external link to a reference for the sentence. I have not come across the editor before so have no back ground to them but seems like an article protection would help here as they only appear to be interested in this article at the moment. Keith D (talk) 17:49, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, Keith. Jack | talk page 20:14, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Bold names

Hi Keith, looking for a second opinion please on the Murder of Lesley Molseed article. In the second paragraph an editor has enboldened two names for emphasis. I removed the bold naming, however the editor replaced them, claiming they are a redirect. I reverted that edit as neither name is a Wikilink, nor has an article on Wiki. The Editor has again replaced them. So I thought I would get a second opinion, rather than fall foul of the 3RR rule, or get accused of edit warring. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Richard Harvey (talkcontribs) 14:21, 5 February 2015‎ (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Sorry to butt in here. What the other editor means is that the names are the targets of redirects. Try going to Stefan Kiszko or Ronald Castree. I don't know the MOS well enough to know if that legitimizes their bolding, but that is certainly the explanation of the other editor's intent. Hope this helps. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 14:46, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
Addendum - ah yes, as given in the other editor's edit summary, here we go: WP:R#PLA - it seems that the bold is indeed encouraged. DBaK (talk) 14:53, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
Gotcha. That is more explanative than what the edit summary was. :) Richard Harvey (talk) 15:27, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
Looks like you have sorted this out between yourselves. I would have created redirects as they are important people in the article in question. It may be appropriate to add categories to the redirects so that they get categorised and can be found easily. Keith D (talk) 16:43, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

16:27, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

The Village Of Shepley

Hello Keith,

You last assessed the page for the village of Shepley in 2009 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shepley), since when it has been greatly expanded upon. Would it be possible to have another look to see if it merits a B-class and if not then what can we do to reach that standard?

Thank you in advance and for your efforts in general. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarcusThornton (talkcontribs) 14:21, 10 February 2015‎ (UTC)

I will take a look later when I have time. Just about to go out. Keith D (talk) 14:29, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Looks like my initial comment has already been addressed by another user which would be the ordering of the sections. See WP:UKPLACES for more detail.
The main thing that remains is the referencing of the material. The existing references are mainly bare URLs which need to be addressed to avoid link rot by adding things like titles, publisher, published date & access date, personally I would use templates such as {{cite web}} to get consistency but that is not a requirement. Provision of additional references to address the main banner on the page would be the next step. Once addressed then I would think that it could be uprated to a B-class article.
The final point would be a general copy-edit to bring it into line with the WP:MOS, such as heading capitalisation and use of em-dashes. Though this would not prevent it becoming a B-class article though would be needed if you go for good article status.
Hope this helps. Keith D (talk) 19:54, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, Keith. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.246.186.165 (talk) 13:35, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

About your (non)participation in the January 2012 SOPA vote

Hi Keith. I am Piotr Konieczny (User:Piotrus), you may know me as an active content creator (see my userpage), but I am also a professional researcher of Wikipedia. Recently I published a paper (downloadable here) on reasons editors participated in Wikipedia's biggest vote to date (January 2012 WP:SOPA). I am now developing a supplementary paper, which analyzes why many editors did not take part in that vote. Which is where you come in :) You are a highly active Wikipedian (69th), and you were active back during the January 2012 discussion/voting for the SOPA, yet you did not chose to participate in said vote. I'd appreciate it if you could tell me why was that so? For your convenience, I prepared a short survey at meta, which should not take more than a minute of your time. I would dearly appreciate you taking this minute; not only as a Wikipedia researcher but as a fellow content creator and concerned member of the community (I believe your answers may help us eventually improve our policies and thus, the project's governance). PS. If you chose to reply here (on your userpage), please WP:ECHO me. Thank you! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 23:26, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

@Piotrus: My responses are as follows -
  • A1 - a
  • A2 - d - not clear what SOPA was/is
  • A3 -
  • A4 - No
  • A5 - No - not by annoying banner adverts
Keith D (talk) 23:40, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

This wiki-kitten is here to thank you for taking part in my survey!

Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:20, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Football player height

Hello Keith D, I see you understand WP:UNITS the same way I do. I've been struggling for ages trying to put feet/inches first in English football articles and yet 2 or 3 people keep arguing they must be meters first because the Premier League website does it that way! I tried to explain and tried in vain to get them to justify their stubbornness but have so far failed. One of them even got the huge sanctions warning message out on my page but I couldn't get it put on Qed237's page and he is as bad as Michael Glass at not sticking to WP:UNITS. Can you help me to persuade them they are wrong please? I'm getting a bit sick of their continual misunderstanding on this. Speccy4Eyes (talk) 20:27, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

I do not think that I have much chance on that one - Michael Glass has spent several years at trying to metricate everything in sight and made numerous attempts at changing the Manual of Style. It is like flogging a dead horse to get him to stop making changes and sanctions are in place against any changes on UK related articles at the moment without agreement see Wikipedia:General sanctions/Units in the United Kingdom. It is probably why he is asking on the talk pages of individual articles so as it avoid any further action. My guess is it as best to ask the one who posted the notice on your talk page as they seem to be policing this. May be raise the problem over players heights with him for clarification as they instigated the call for sanctions and drafted them. The other place to raise concerns is WP:AN/I which will get a wider audience. Keith D (talk) 22:17, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

17:57, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

England / UK

Hi there, I'm pretty sure you won't be aware of this consensus, but it's regarding the removal or addition of "UK" to placenames in infoboxes etc. I see you've made a few changes in that regard, although nobody would call them "systematic". We had a couple of people removing "UK" on a mass basis, and plenty of people who were persistently restoring it and adding it elsewhere too. I just thought I'd let you know about this consensus to basically leave things as they are found, which makes for a quieter life. So far it has stood up very well; it seems as if the cessation of the systematic removal of "UK" has resulted in the cessation of its systematic addition. The discussion was here. Cheers, Bretonbanquet (talk) 11:45, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. The ones that I change are usually those that have systematically had UK added by a roving IP, where I remove from all of their contributions. They tend to hit an item on my watchlist because they usually add the historic county as well. Keith D (talk) 12:11, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
No worries, yes, there are a couple of other editors who undo additions / removals by roving IPs and that's a good thing. We encountered one floating IP who was adding "UK" everywhere along with historic counties, and he was difficult to deal with, but I think he got the message in the end. I find the link to the consensus is handy to ward off anyone who starts changing a lot of articles. Cheers, Bretonbanquet (talk) 12:15, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

16:28, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Another list of Somerset scheduled monuments at FLC

As you have previously commented on one or more of nominations of the lists of scheduled monuments in Somerset, I wondered if you would be kind enough to take a look at the List of scheduled monuments in Sedgemoor which is now nominated at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of scheduled monuments in Sedgemoor/archive1?— Rod talk 21:13, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Apologies Keith, I was doing an offline edit on the above and overwrote your normally much appreciated efforts to improve my punctuation. Regards JRPG (talk) 14:44, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, no problem. Keith D (talk) 17:35, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

GEORGE HUDSON

Bailey reference added - thanks for spotting.--Davidvaughanwells (talk) 21:23, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - March 2015

Delivered March 2015 by MediaWiki message delivery.
If you do not wish to receive the newsletter, please add an N to the column against your username on the Project Mainpage.

22:24, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

16:41, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

15:18, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

15:15, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Leeds Wiki meetup 11 April

Hi Keith mate, there is a wiki meetup in Leeds on 11 April. Please can you include this [as a priority] in the Wikiproject Yorkshire news letter? Cheers mate, regards IJA (talk) 10:59, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

OK will give it a plug. Keith D (talk) 11:56, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
There has been a change of date for the wikimeetup, it is now on Sunday 12 April. Cheers mate IJA (talk) 16:06, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

15:10, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi Keith D, I think there are concerns with this article, which you've dropped in on recently. It's a long and unsourced promotional piece for the accommodations--not in terms of hype, but the unreferenced, trivial details suggest a WP:SPA and WP:COI effort. I've left a few messages with the relevant account, but my experience here leads me to believe that someone in the business office is acting on orders to flesh out the article, guidelines be damned. Any assistance would be appreciated. Many thanks, 2602:302:D89:83E9:DCF:FD75:97E9:3302 (talk) 19:49, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

I think that they have decided to call it a day and removed their edits with this edit leaving it with less that it had previously. Keith D (talk) 22:40, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Another list of Somerset scheduled monuments at FLC

As you have previously commented on one or more of nominations of the lists of scheduled monuments in Somerset, I wondered if you would be kind enough to take a look at the List of scheduled monuments in West Somerset which is now nominated at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of scheduled monuments in West Somerset/archive1?— Rod talk 21:15, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi Keith. Can you have a look at the very recent history of this one please ? An IP added stuff about a struck-off dentist, and outed the place where she lives, something not mentioned in the ref given. I have reduced the text to something less sensational - I'm not sure the story adds anything to this place article anyway, and could well be removed entirely. What I think might be important is to remove the outing address by removing the history of these additions. Cheers. Acabashi (talk) 00:49, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I have hidden the 4 revisions of the article that give the name and address of the person. The story probably does not add much to the article unless you are a local who may be interested in it so if you want to remove it then go ahead. Keith D (talk) 01:25, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
Many thanks for that Keith. Acabashi (talk) 01:31, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi Keith,

Thanks for the advice on dates and things, new to editting on wikipedia so trying my best!

I see you've edited on the page Ian Lavery before correcting grammatical errors along with other nonsense that users have placed on the page. (I've probably put some stuff on myself)

Could you keep an eye out for another user's edits on the page? I have no problems with other people wanting to add information, but it seems clear that a certain user has an agenda against the page, shown by his continued use of tabloid references to justify his own political beliefs. I didn't start editing on Wikipedia to become entangled in an on-line war but it seems every time I have added or edited information, this user wishes to delete or alter for their own personal gain.

P.S Ill try my best to stop using th and st after dates!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hierachy2015 (talkcontribs) 10:14, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the note. He is on my watchlist so I should spot any changes to the article. Keith D (talk) 12:28, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

please rerun your mosnum script on Milton Keynes

I reverted about 10 updates to Milton Keynes because of a silly and uniformed edit war between IP editors. I'm afraid your edit to apply wp:mosnum was a victim of collateral damage. I'm sorry for that but it I don't know of any better way. I hope it will not be too inconvenient for you to rerun the script please. It is not practical for me to do it myself. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 12:01, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I have re-applied the changes. Keith D (talk) 13:13, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

(High) Sheriff of Yorkshire

There is a page entitled "High Sheriff of Yorkshire" and a category, with quite a lot of members. However, there has never been a High Sheriff of Yorkshire (as the page makes clear). The people in the category were all Sheriffs, not High Sheriffs. Since 1974 there have been High Sheriffs of the constituent parts, but never of the whole historic county. I therefore think it should be Sheriff (with a redirect from High Sheriff), but this affect all the pages of the Sheriffs. Do you have a suggestion? Chemical Engineer (talk) 16:12, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

The High Sheriff article indicates that it was just Sheriff before 1974 so is what you say true for other former counties? Keith D (talk) 16:38, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
As I understand it the 1974 brought in consistency so that for all counties the office was High Sheriff. However, at that point Yorkshire was not a county in the meaning of the act, so the office of Sheriff of Yorkshire ended. And, as is my point, there never was a High Sheriff of Yorkshire. I cannot think of any other county arrangement which might have suffered a similar fate. Chemical Engineer (talk) 19:43, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
May be consult Omerod, W.M. (2000). The Lord Lieutenants & High Sheriffs of Yorkshire 1066–2000. Department of History of the University of York. ISBN 1-871647-74-6. and see what that says. Keith D (talk) 19:53, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
The book may be more authoritative. Interestingly but not conclusively, I have found a copy of a sermon from 1670, which was preached before (it says) "Philip Monckton Knight, being High-Sheriff of Yorkshire". Another printed 1670, but preached in 1669 was before "Sir John Armitage, being then High-Sheriff of Yorkshire" Thus the Wiki entry on Sheriffs might not be correct.Chemical Engineer (talk) 20:48, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
However London Gazette 1668 appoints only Sheriffs, including Armitage, as does the Gazette of 1962. A newspaper of 1807 announces the marriage of R. F. Wilson, High Sheriff of Yorkshire. I might surmise that High Sheriff was a courtesy rather than official title. Chemical Engineer (talk) 21:02, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Ref checks

Hi Keith D Could you [plesea check all refs for these articles 1) Potternewton 2) Martineau family 3) Lupton family 4) Oswald Birley 5) Arnold Lupton 6) Headingley (UK)

I really hope you can help me - I am much better - but please do a general check up if that is possible Thanks M E R — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.214.63.12 (talk) 10:27, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks so much Keith D 3 last things - is there something wrong with ref number 75 on the "Lupton family" page? and - is the page "Unitarianism" OK? Please check Albert Kitson, 2nd Baron Airedale too. Thanks again M.R. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.214.63.12 (talk) 12:01, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

I have made a quick check and they look OK. I have made a couple of changes to improve layout of the refs. There is a problem with ref 75 on the Lupton family page but cannot fix that one as I do not have access to source. The ref needs |title= adding with the title of the article in the journal. Keith D (talk) 12:19, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

15:18, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Archive 40Archive 45Archive 46Archive 47Archive 48Archive 49Archive 50