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Swarna Kamal v Rajat Kamal

After many of the category names were changed in the recent NFA, it is confusing how to arrange them. For example, for Best Film in AVGC, there are two sub-categories, one is Swarna Kamal and the other is Rajat Kamal. However, currently both are placed within Swarna Kamal. Many of the categories are also pending move, including acting and regional films. 106.222.181.218 (talk) 08:49, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

I don't know and I don't care. You please get help at the Indian cinema task force. Kailash29792 (talk) 09:06, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Revival of Shanmuga Pandian

After the film releases, the article can be revived. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shanmuga Pandian was made hastily by me maybe. DareshMohan (talk) 06:36, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Is any film of his awaiting release? Kailash29792 (talk) 06:42, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Yes (next month, which starts in four days). [1] Forgot to link it earlier. He must have become the breadwinner of the family signing films left and right [2]. DareshMohan (talk) 01:36, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Can You Dance

This song is a prelude version of Arabic Kuthu. How to add this to Arabic Kuthu page? 2409:40F3:16:3792:C0EB:F7FF:FE8B:3305 (talk) 16:52, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

True but sadly needs reliable source [3]. DareshMohan (talk) 01:38, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

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Deletion

This page Dharmam Engey is undergoing deletion. Reason: one review, needs two. DareshMohan (talk) 17:45, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

DareshMohan, can page 116 be used to save the article? Kailash29792 (talk) 07:30, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

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Page

Can you salvage this: Draft:August 15 Raatri? I mean Tamil films with a single Kalki review get articles. DareshMohan (talk) 08:44, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

I've told you quite a few times, the AfC process is incompetent and won't pass any article unless it is C class worthy. You should've moved it straight to the mainspace without going through the AfC process. As for Tamil films, many articles were already created as stubs before I discovered the Kalki reviews in 2021. But if they were put through AfC, reviewers would surely not accept them if they were so short, even if a single review was listed. Kailash29792 (talk) 09:58, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Is the database Screen4Screen only for some Tamil films? DareshMohan (talk) 17:48, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Yes. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:11, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of Vidhi (2023 film) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Vidhi (2023 film) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vidhi (2023 film) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

P. S. I am sorry for nominating don't take it personally. DareshMohan (talk) 07:33, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

16 Vayathinile

Couple of things:

• The title card and poster both read 16 Vayanthinile! What does the CBFC certificate say?
• The credits lists many actors in the opening credits. Were you not able to find the roles of any of them?

DareshMohan (talk) 03:35, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Common spelling matters, not just the title card/CBFC. As for the rest of the cast, you please add them if you know their character names. Either way the article needs GA reassessment which I'm not finding time for. Kailash29792 (talk) 03:46, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Doubt

Did Kamal Haasan have the dialogues prewritten for him or did he write the dialogues for the "Kanmani Anbodu Kadhalan" song? பாட்டில் வரும் வசனத்தை கமல் முன்னரே எழுதிய நிலையில் வரிகளை மட்டும் மட்டும் வாலி எழுதினார். [4] (last paragraph). DareshMohan (talk) 02:16, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Looks like Kamal wrote the dialogues. This could be a useful ref. --Kailash29792 (talk) 02:31, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Sivakasi references

Most of the ref articles in production section of Sivakasi especially from indiaglitz and behindwoods are removed due to not being reliable sources. Are they unreliable ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srivin (talk • contribs)

Srivin, by ICTF standards they are not reliable. But I feel pre-2010 films need those sources as Sify is dead and Rediff didn't cover everything. I have re-added them unless they can be replaced. Kailash29792 (talk) 15:21, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

i agree with it indiaglitz and behindwoods are the only ones to depend on for lot of content for 2000s films including the hindu too. Srivin (talk) 15:32, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

My standards for 2000s refs is this. Remove Indiaglitz, Filmibeat if the article has other sources else keep it. DareshMohan (talk) 03:19, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

I contemplated keeping the IndiaGlitz review, but now agree it is best removed since the article isn't deprived. Kailash29792 (talk) 03:31, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Thangalaan

Can you check this revision. The user is adding the old and unreliable sources to article. Charliehdb (talk) 16:25, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

I had added more links which are from highly reputed sources. Before spreading calumny, please verify with better sources.

https://www.timesnownews.com/entertainment-news/tamil/vikram-expresses-joy-after-thangalaan-hits-rs-100-crore-article-112945714

https://www.msn.com/en-in/entertainment/southcinema/thangalaan-chiyaan-vikram-s-hindi-release-expands-as-a-sleeper-hit/ar-AA1qAsXX

https://www.moneycontrol.com/entertainment/chiyaan-vikrams-thangalaan-hindi-dub-set-to-emerge-as-a-sleeper-hit-with-growing-screen-count-article-12822086.html

https://zeenews.india.com/regional/overwhelmed-by-the-incredible-response-says-thangalaan-producer-k-e-gnanavel-raja-2795700.html

https://www.filmfare.com/news/south/thangalaan-producer-is-overwhelmed-by-films-mega-success-68541.html

https://www.iwmbuzz.com/movies/releases-movies/overwhelmed-by-the-incredible-response-thangalaan-has-received-says-thangalaan-producer-k-e-gnanavel-raja-as-the-film-witnessing-increase-in-number-of-screens-across-the-nation/2024/09/19

https://zeenews.india.com/regional/thangalaan-box-office-collections-chiyaan-vikram-starrer-joins-rs-100-cr-club-globally-2785267.html 笑い男~enwiki A Zen drifter has no attachments to anything, even human. Or does he? 21:19, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi

Just coming down here to say hi and enquiring on how you're doing, my friend. Hope all is well. I am slowly getting back to active editing and might get back full-time soon.  — Ssven2 ^{Looking at you, kid} 10:25, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Vaada (2010 film) sourcing

Hate to drop a bomb, but the current sourcing in this article could spark a deletion debate.

• Several users are against The Times of India (bribery?). Many could argue that at least one of the TOI sources is a passing mention. It needs at least 1 Chennai Online review. @Srivin:

The declaration of Behindwoods as an unreliable source is almost an emergency for some articles. DareshMohan (talk) 02:07, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Behindwoods was long ago declared unreliable, but that's based on circumstantial evidence. Yes, Vaada is in danger of deletion, and I don't know what to do to save it. But for over 10 years no one has done it, so I wonder who will now. Kailash29792 (talk) 02:24, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Found 2 more sources, sorry for the false alarm. DareshMohan (talk) 03:29, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

surprisingly theres no reviews on this film even other films of sundar c has been reviewed no idea why this particular film isnt reviewed anywhere. Srivin (talk) 12:28, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Jayaprakash

Jayaprakash, my bad for forgetting to remind you. Roasted (talk) 17:53, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Sorry to give you tasks, but what is the easy way that you redirect all links? DareshMohan (talk) 07:22, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

You could go to Jayaprakash, click "what links here" and change the links. Kailash29792 (talk) 10:58, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Its 179 items, I remembered there was an easy way. DareshMohan (talk) 23:04, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Anbe Vaa

If you plan on taking it to FA and to do a PR before that, I am more than willing to provide comments there and help you out.  — Ssven2 ^{Looking at you, kid} 10:05, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

As I said before, I'm not into GAs and FAs anymore. However, I'm waiting for the right moment to take it to GA reassessment. The existing sources seem enough. Kailash29792 (talk) 10:49, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

Sounds good. Just let me know when you conduct the reassessment.  — Ssven2 ^{Looking at you, kid} 16:20, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

Vaanam

I'm planning to take this to GA but I removed all of the Behindwoods and Indiaglitz sources and lost 5% of the article's content. DareshMohan (talk) 09:29, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

These "roadblocks" are what stopped my GA/FA pursuit a few years ago. My bitter experiences at Mullum Malarum and Sathi Leelavathi are contributing factors. So, to hell with GA for an article where sourcing itself is a challenge. Why not instead focus on cleaning the prose and fixing references? Kailash29792 (talk) 09:40, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Annaamalai

I noticed the film is almost GA ready and I would nominate it myself if I made more edits lol. I know you wouldn't do it anymore but try giving it a go this one more time. You might find your mojo. I am planning on resuming my work on Baashha and also working on Baba. — Ssven2 ^{Looking at you, kid} 16:50, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

I have all the important pages saved in a cloud service, here they are if you want to help expand further. Kailash29792 (talk) 01:01, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

This is useful stuff. How about Naman's ones?  — Ssven2 ^{Looking at you, kid} 09:01, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

If you mean Rajinikanth: The Definitive Biography, here. Kailash29792 (talk) 09:04, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Yes! Thanks brother!  — Ssven2 ^{Looking at you, kid} 09:34, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Btw some of the pages in chapter 10 are missing from your link (in particular to Baba). Would it be alright if you got all the pages pertaining to it? Thanks.  — Ssven2 ^{Looking at you, kid} 10:09, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Alright, I'll photograph pages related to Baba and upload by tonight. But there's a mass culling of Behindwoods and IndiaGlitz sources by RangerRus who opines they are not reliable even for GA standards. So please tread lightly. Kailash29792 (talk) 10:12, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

The user seems non-existent when I look him up.  — Ssven2 ^{Looking at you, kid} 10:52, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Oops, it is RangersRus. Kailash29792 (talk) 10:54, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

The Tamil David

@Kailash29792:, I have restored the David (2013 Tamil film) page. Hamwal (talk) 11:39, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Varumayin Niram Sivappu's Telugu version

@Kailash29792:, I know that the Telugu film Aakali Rajyam which was actually partially dubbed and reshot version of Varumayin Niram Sivappu, the lead actor Kamal Haasan was awarded Filmfare Award for Best Actor – Telugu for Aakali Rajyam, then shouldn't it have a separate article? Like Alaigal Oivathillai and Seethakoka Chilaka have separate articles, and please also say something about the David (2013 film), the Tamil version of David had good publicity and respect, why shouldn't it have a separate article? Hamwal (talk) 08:41, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

DareshMohan, your input please? When the two David films share an article, despite major differences, why should Akali Rajyam have a separate article when there are only a few actor changes? Kailash29792 (talk) 08:49, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

@Kailash29792:, The Tamil David is available on Netflix, but the Hindi David is not available anywhere, I have restored the Tamil David page. Hamwal (talk) 11:38, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

@Hamwal: Although saying that it is partially dubbed and partially reshot is original research, since most of Aakali Rajyam was dubbed, it shouldn't get a separate article. You can add the review by Zamin Ryot here (on page 9 right side) and an award. The review can be used to source the character names. Reportedly, a bigger success in Telugu [5] and a notable film of J. V. Ramana Murthi [6]. [7] DareshMohan (talk) 17:46, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

வாழ்த்துக்கள்!

@Manick22: Never expected Aadi Thallupadi to become an article! DareshMohan (talk) 04:32, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

Can you resurrect Draft:Billa Ranga (film)? The sourcing is similar to Chattaniki Kallu Levu [8]. DareshMohan (talk) 07:39, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

I would suggest you to stop submitting articles via AfC as the reviewers expect GA or FA level articles. That's why the article hasn't been accepted yet. Besides why were so many sources deleted? Anyway, I'm busy till 5pm, please be patient. Kailash29792 (talk) 07:55, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Sources were deleted because they were passing mentions. I understand your concern regarding AfC but you must realise that I edited that 5 months ago. I learned from my mistake and stopped doing AfC now. DareshMohan (talk) 08:24, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:1961 romance films

A tag has been placed on Category:1961 romance films indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:26, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Erraneous central description

Can you change the central description from Telugu to Kannada film? [9] DareshMohan (talk) 19:45, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Remove all instances of IB Times from Velaiilla Pattadhari @RangersRus: DareshMohan (talk) 00:23, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: Draft:Kai Niraya Kaasu

Hello Kailash29792. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Draft:Kai Niraya Kaasu, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Is a plausible, useful redirect or is not a redirect at all. Thank you. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 09:11, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

SafariScribe, how is it "plausible" and "useful"? Doesn't link to any mainspace article, and shouldn't. I never intended to start the article in the draftspace, and did so only because one cannot start a mainspace article half-baked. In fact, I would call it "quarter baked" when I started it. Kailash29792 (talk) 11:23, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

It isn't a reason to speedily delete the redirect. It should be rcat-ed with {{R to main namespace}}. I don't see an issue with the redirect or do you have anything perhaps contrary on mind? Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 11:28, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Lack of sources

I created two articles that were affected by the unreliablility of Indiaglitz and Filmibeat: Boys and Girls (2006 film) and Poojari. Should they exist? DareshMohan (talk) 02:25, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

DareshMohan, wait for Chennai Online's review archives to become available again. As for poojari, you may redirect it to pujari. Kailash29792 (talk) 02:31, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

I know for a fact that boys and girls did not get a Chennai Online review. It only had a The Hindu and Behindwoods production source. As for the second film, I am opposed to redirect, since the film's songs are popular and The New Indian Express article was published a year after release. DareshMohan (talk) 02:42, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Hello,

A film can generally be considered notable with 2 reviews from reliable sources (but even then, some users may say "only may be" over and over again, which is technically correct but obviously exaggeratedly demanding). But a film can be considered notable without them, by meeting general requirements and not the specific guideline, for example if coverage on production is significant and from reliable sources, or for other reasons (its music has received coverage can be one of them). Other criteria can apply (important culturally, important in the career of a major artist). Etc. So, even if the 2 or 3 reviews are challenged, I personally would leave the pages like that and leave the review on the page. The "consensus" on BehindWoods seems rather recent, for example, and I would tend to disagree there's even a consensus about it. Many sources that have been added are maybe not of the best quality but to list them as plainly unreliable is quite extreme and seems to be the decision of one user with links to rather short sections with few participants... At this rate, only huge Indian blockbusters will have a page and half of old films are going to be deleted. Very concerning to see the ITF shifting like this. Look at the recent page history.....or at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ha_Khel_Sawalyancha. I mentioned the issue on the page of the closer. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 07:07, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Mushy Yank, RangersRus is on a rampage deleting IndiaGlitz and Behindwoods even from pre-2010 South Indian film articles. While he isn't without merit, IndiaGlitz and Behindwoods are essential to preserving such films as they don't have many alternate sources. Sify was, but it's dead and they didn't save all their archives. --Kailash29792 (talk) 07:14, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Just realized Nadigai is entirely sourced by unreliable sources. DareshMohan (talk) 09:30, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

No one is stopping you from prodding it. Or you could redirect it to Chechi (film). Kailash29792 (talk) 11:23, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Article request Muthal Paadal [10] (page 11). DareshMohan (talk) 22:47, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Please put it on my missing films page with additional sources. Kailash29792 (talk) 01:10, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Web archive

Wayback archive is showing "this site is not working" while opening any link. 16:05, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

Srivin, #metoo. More info here. Kailash29792 (talk) 17:15, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

Reema

User is clearly not here. Wanted to drop the link that was just reverted in case you want it for ANI. CNMall41 (talk) 02:42, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Kaththi cast

No need for GA, but it would be great to make the cast section sourced. 40 actors played elderly roles of which 10 are named. @Manick22: Do we know who played who? [11]

For credited cast members without sources, I can source the film itself and time the actor came. Anil Jai was listed for a very long time although his name is not in credits. DareshMohan (talk) 06:38, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

First of all we could start with cleaning the references and merging duplicates. I however don't have time today or tomorrow. Kailash29792 (talk) 07:29, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Request

It would be beneficial if I could access all of The Times of India articles from the early 2000s written by G S Kumar. When I do a search [12], it doesn't list all of them: [13]. I wish I could access all of the archives relating to Kannada cinema from 2000-2005 so that poorly sourced articles can be sourced. G S Kumar might have only written 10-15 articles maximum. DareshMohan (talk) 00:36, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Tamil review by Kalki

There's an incomplete review in Thacholi Ambu. I cannot read Tamil. Can you help. 117.230.91.174 (talk) 15:32, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

There are also good color posters in IMDb.--117.230.91.174 (talk) 15:39, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Srivin, help with the review please? I ain't got time. Kailash29792 (talk) 15:55, 31 October 2024 (UTC)