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Administrators' newsletter – April 2020

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2020).

Guideline and policy news

  • There is an ongoing request for comment to streamline the source deprecation and blacklisting process.

Technical news

Arbitration

  • Following the banning of an editor by the WMF last year, the Arbitration Committee resolved to hold a Arbcom RfC regarding on-wiki harassment. A draft RfC has been posted at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Anti-harassment RfC (Draft) and not open to comments from the community yet. Interested editors can comment on the RfC itself on its talk page.

Miscellaneous

  • The WMF has begun a pilot report of the pages most visited through various social media platforms to help with anti-vandalism and anti-disinformation efforts. The report is updated daily and will be available through the end of May.
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:00, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you

...for the block [1]. At least one quaint edit summary and perhaps a few defamatory edits may require rev/deletion. Cheers, and be well, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:47, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Samuel Girard (ice hockey)

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Samuel Girard (ice hockey) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Nova Crystallis -- Nova Crystallis (talk) 23:01, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

DYK for William Roper Hull

On 4 April 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article William Roper Hull, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Canadian rancher William Roper Hull is credited with the first use of fences in cattle ranching in Calgary? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/William Roper Hull. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, William Roper Hull), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Cale Morris

On 6 April 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Cale Morris, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that ice hockey goaltender Cale Morris won Big Ten Player of the Year and Big Ten Goaltender of the Year after going undrafted into the National Hockey League? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cale Morris. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Cale Morris), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:19, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Evan Thomas

Thank you for your reply and I fully understand the need to verify and confirm information which is published on Wikipedia. The details of the house at Beaumaris formerly owned by Evan Thomas (who was known locally as E.O.Evan Thomas) can be verified from this write-up which appeared in the Daily Post a newspaper and news website published by Trinity Mirror in the UK :- https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/gallery/property-insider-anglesey-house-spectacular-10374047. The writer of the piece had probably never heard of Evan Thomas and the house would have gone through a number of owners since Evan Thomas moved away, but he is still affectionately remembered by local people.

Confirmation of Evan Thomas living in Beaumaris is provided by the following extract from The Liverpool Echo (the local evening newspaper published in Liverpool, UK) dated May 12 1960.

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Ex Hollywood film actor Councillor Evan Thomas shook hands with the Queen on the visit she and the Duke of Edinburgh paid to Beaumaris in the Isle of Anglesey - Liverpool Echo firit

Part of it reads as follows :- "It's a long way from Hollywood to Beaumaris in the gentle Isle of Anglesey, North Wales. But even further perhaps from the glamour of big money movies to the cheerful task of being chairman of the Beaumaris Castle Players, happy bunch of amateurs. Peter Evan Thomas, grey-haired handsome actor who shared screens with Gary Cooper, Marlene Dietrich, Ronald Coleman and even little Shirley Temple in his Hollywood Days, has bridged the gap quite nicely thank you. He and his Californian wife, Katharine. have fitted into the sedate life of Beaumaris so easily that you'd think they had always been a part of it. Their home is Chimney Corner, overlooking the Menai Straits, where Katharine is now an expert cook of such Welsh delicacies as " bara brith," that luscious fruit-loaf. But back in the early 1930's Peter Evan- Thomas, under his stage name of Evan Thomas, was a film actor of considerable renown in Hollywood and in this country. For the record, he comes from a Radnorshire family, with links that reach to the Duke of Norfolk. He became an actor after the first war, went to Hollywood in 1929, then returned to this country to play in British films of top vintage, like "Constant Nymph," "Scarlet Pimpernel" and such — all big money-earners of the day. He went back to Hollywood in 1937 with a high reputation. With his background, he became a prominent member of "The British Circle" in Hollywood headed by such die-hards as Sir Aubrey Smith with his cricket X1, Ronald Coleman, Rex Harrison,Basil Rathbone and other stars from England"

The article goes on to relate how Evan Thomas was elected as a Beaumaris Borough Councillor and includes a photograph of him shaking hands with Her Majesty the Queen when she and the Duke of Edinburgh visited Beaumaris.

Hi David Morris Jones and thanks for the reply. If you wish to re-add your content, Wikipedia does allow users to cite offline sources (Wikipedia:Offline sources). You will just need to follow the guidelines expressed on this page. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 21:28, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Akil Thomas

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Akil Thomas you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Nova Crystallis -- Nova Crystallis (talk) 00:41, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Page deletation

Hello, 

The page I had created Radhakrishnan Pillai was deleted for the second time. Could you please consider it again. The page is about best selling author from India. The information put up was quite relevant and were from verified sources as you can see the citations attached to it.

Thanking You, Wikipedia User

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radhakrishnan_pillai — Preceding unsigned comment added by Invader2580 (talk • contribs) 10:39, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi Invader2580 and welcome to Wikipedia. I will not be restoring the article since it was a direct copyright violation, which Wikipedia takes very seriously. If you wish to re-write the article in your own words, please use our draft process.HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 16:22, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Travis Dermott

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Travis Dermott you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Nova Crystallis -- Nova Crystallis (talk) 07:21, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Lost Flamingo Theatre Company

Hi! I recently created a page for the Lost Flamingo Theatre Company. It was deleted for copyright reasons, and I would like to attempt to recreate it. The information I copied from was something I own the copyright to. I was instructed to reach out to you. I'm fairly new to Wikipedia Creation and I would appreciate support and advice going forward as well. Thank you! Best, Hailey HL825517 (talk) 20:57, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi HL825517 and welcome to Wikipedia. I am assuming you have a conflict of interest with the Lost Flamingo Theatre Company, which is something that must be disclosed per Wikimedia Terms of Use. Secondly, if you wish to use the copyrighted text you must follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. Once all this is worked out, you should create a draft through this link so a neutral third party can review it and approve it. I hope this helps and you and your family are safe. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 22:56, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Caridad Asensio for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Caridad Asensio is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Caridad Asensio until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. DGG ( talk ) 03:11, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Can you explain in detail what's wrong with the pages China Anne McClain and McClain (band)

You recently deleted them from consideration. Could you explain please?

Factfanatic1 Hello! As I stated on the pages themselves, a lot of works needs to be done before they qualify for GA status. They are lacking sources and are not broad in coverage. I see you only recently signed up to join Wikipedia and I want to say welcome, we are glad to have you. However, getting articles to GA status takes a lot of work and I suggest just editing articles to get a feel for our criteria before nominating any more. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 07:15, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Factfanatic1 For example, take a look at Beyoncé and compare it to the McClain's. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 07:20, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

HickoryOughtShirt?4 Yes, but can you explain in detail what you mean? I won't nominate the pages for being good articles at least for a while but I'm not sure what you mean to compare China Anne McClain to Beyoncé. McClain is relatively known and is over a decade younger whereas Beyonce has done much more work and is a superstar. McClain is also more an actress than she is a singer whereas Beyonce is really only a singer with some acting work here and there. I'm not sure how you expect the two pages to be similar. And when you say lacking sources, where exactly? And when you say not broad in coverage, how exactly? I rewrote both China Anne McClain and McClain (band) entirely. No one else besides myself has really been working on either pages recently, particularly the band's page, and I just wanted help. If you could be specific that would help.Factfanatic1 (talk) 07:41, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Factfanatic1 What I meant was, look at how detailed and well-sourced Beyoncé's article is while McClain has many sentences without any reference (and some are dead) and very little detail. I mostly write sports articles which probably wouldn't have been a good comparison for you but if you wish for a lesser-known individual Quinn Hughes was my first GA. For example, the sentence "McClain appeared on ABC's Sing Your Face Off television show, winning the show's first season" is unsourced and can go into much more detail. When did she sign onto the show, was her singing praised, were the ratings good? It could probably be its own paragraph with how much information you can describe about her and the show. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 07:45, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

HickoryOughtShirt?4 How about McClain (band)? And my last question is where do you find pictures for your pages like with Quinn Hughes and your other articles? I really can't find anything recent for McClain (band) nor for China Anne. I tried Flickr to no avail and there's nothing recent on Wikimedia.Factfanatic1 (talk) 07:56, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Factfanatic1, hey don't be afraid to ask questions. I know article writing is tough so if you have any questions feel free to ask me or the Wikipedia new editor help desk.
To begin for the McClain (band), the subheading is titled "2005–2011: 3mcclaingirls and Daddy's Little Girls" but it only goes up to 2008. What happened in the years before Hollywood Records? As well, the sentence "On September 11, 2012, their single "The Great Divide" was released which was featured in the Disney film Secret of the Wings and on the film's soundtrack Disney Fairies: Faith, Trust, and Pixie Dust" can go into much more detail. How was it received by the public? I suggest trying to write two-three sentence for each "fact."
I found the main photo of Hughes by asking someone on Twitter to release their rights to it (which they thankfully agreed) and the second photo was taken by one of our own editors. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 08:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
HickoryOughtShirt?4 Besides requesting for the release of rights, are there any other resources or websites you recommend? It's so difficult for me to find pictures for the performers I work on Wikipedia. About McClain (band), the thing with the band is that so much about them is rather obscure or unknown. They're really only so known because China Anne McClain was in the band. In regards to what was happening between 2008 until they signed with Hollywood Records in 2011, all three sisters were acting. But in terms of being a group, they didn't seem to do anything. I've kept up with the group since 2011 and I can't find anything online because there isn't anything. They seemed to be on hiatus and they are now on hiatus again. I'm not very sure how to put that into the article? I touched on it but it also wouldn't be appropriate to go into the projects they did separately as it's about the band.
In regards to "The Great Divide" it seems to have been received well by the public according to Amazon, iTunes, and Google Play/Music, but no professional music critics ever reviewed that single so it's difficult to talk about how it was received when no critics. That's why the group's article might come off as being very general without going into specifics because in all honesty they never really were all that notable. You'll understand what I mean if you do some research on the group.Factfanatic1 (talk) 08:18, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Factfanatic1, sorry to disappoint but I've only used Twitter or Flickr. Re: the band...I mean if they aren't really notable and you're struggling to write about them, you may want to nominate it for deletion. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 08:21, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

HickoryOughtShirt?4 I wouldn't delete the page and no one has ever argued about deleting their page. The issue is that they had their peak as a group from 2011 until 2013, which is when they released their most well known songs, were part of Hollywood Records, and appeared on the Disney Channel as a group and China Anne had her own show on the channel. So I think the problem is that they're kind of stuck in time in terms of their notability as a group whereas China has kept working on her own. It's difficult to explain but I definitely don't think their page as a group should be deleted. I think that certain parts of their article just might have to stay without further information because there's literally nothing that can be done about it.Factfanatic1 (talk) 08:31, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

i need you help

Can you help me, to protect my page of Angela Tee from hacker ? AngelFanatee11 (talk) 08:21, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

AngelFanatee11, good morning. I hate to break it to you, but you're kind of the hacker. You're attempting to hijack the article and turn it into something else. Please read the welcome message I have left you. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 08:23, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
HickoryOughtShirt?4, i don't never hijacking the page i only the revised the page of Indonesian figures and why many articles of Indonesian figures like Tarra Budiman, Vino G. Bastian and Didi Kempot was blindly deleted by hacker disguised as Administratror (not you, other peoples) rather than South Korean figures is bad articles never deleted ? AngelFanatee11 (talk) 11:27, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Request deletion

Requesting deletion for Allec Joshua Iaby. I would recreate the page again. K Magz (talk) 05:27, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi K Magz, please see my reply on your talk page. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 05:28, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Reply

Needed your immediate reply in my talk page pls. K Magz (talk) 06:04, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Apologies, I fell asleep. Please be advised we are all volunteers so I may not be able to immediately reply to posts. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 12:06, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Data Science UA

Hello, you deleted my page in Wikipedia "Data Science UA". Can you explain the reason, please? What will I need to change in the article to make it appropriate for Wikipedia?

Thanks a lot! Waiting for your answer.

Regards, Anna.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Brovkosha (talk • contribs) 13:13, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi Anna and welcome to Wikipedia. When posting on someone's talk page or replying to them on yours, please remember to sign your messages by typing four tildes (~~~~). This action will automatically insert your username and the date. In response to your comment, can I ask if you're being financially compensated for making Wikipedia edits or have a personal/financial relationship with the organization? The article you wrote read more like a press release than a neutral article. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 17:43, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
Brovkosha, ping. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 17:43, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Unblock of User:Stevedolinsky

Hello, As the administrator that blocked this user, could you unblock them now? OTRS evidence has confirmed that the user is indeed the person referred to in the username. Thanks! Sam-2727 (talk) 01:44, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Done. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 02:26, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

deleted informational Company article "Zizoo"

Dear HickoryOughtShirt?4,

one of our costumers just send us a notification that there is no information about Zizoo findable anymore on Wikipedia - our Article is deleted. Since not just customers but also potential investors see the information about companies on Wikipedia as a trust, I was wondering why our article got deleted by you.

We re the world leading boat rental platform with more then 30000 boats in more then 500 locatons. To me it seems not fair that our smaler competitors like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Click_and_Boat are allowed to have an informational company article.

I would politely ask you to put our company article online again.

I would also ask you to get back to me with an answer.

Have a wonderfull day and best regards from Berlin

Daniel — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.13.188.155 (talk) 10:26, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi Daniel and welcome to Wikipedia. This is an encyclopedia, not a personal website where investors can see the information about companies. The difference between Zizoo and Click and Boat is that the former was written in a non neutral tone. I'm also very sure it was your undisclosed paid editors like Akshayfighter who informed you of this, and not a customer. If you wish to try and re-add Zizoo to Wikipedia, you need to play by our rules. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 10:46, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi @HickoryOughtShirt?4, I'm trying to help Daniel and his Co-Workers in getting used to the Wiki-rules. Would you be so kind to re-cover the deleted Zizoo-article into my sandbox so that I can have a look at it and re-write it in a proper version? Greetings to Canada, hope you're fine --E-dvertising (talk) 10:42, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
Hello HickoryOughtShirt?4, due to the rules of en.wiki and following agreement with Admins I've switched to this account and like to follow up my question from 9 April, is it possible to recover the articel into my sandbox or as a "Draft:..."? regards --mARTin (talk) 09:50, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Ryan Rowland-Smith

Thanks for the review! I think I got all the changes; let me know if anything more is needed. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 12:38, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

How Do I Update My Page?

Hello,

I'm having an extremely hard time following the procedures for updating my page. It was created shortly before the release of my book, Pizza City USA, but it clearly needs updating. How do I do so? I'd like to add work history, early life, picture, etc.

Thanks,

Steve

Hi Stevedolinsky and welcome to Wikipedia. Alright, I'm going to be straight forward here for a bit. Firstly, I suggest thinking of Wikipedia in different terms. It isn't "your page" it's "an article about you." I'm being pedantic about this because how one views Wikipedia is important when interacting with it. Unless one's privacy is being attacked, you being the subject of an article is not relative to the influence you have over it. Now that that is established, we can move onto updating. You are recommended to use WP:Edit requests on Talk:Steve Dolinsky which will be reviewed by an experienced editor. When making these requests, make sure it is neutrally worded (WP:NPOV) and well-sourced to reliable reference (WP:RS). If it is fails either of these criteria, it will not be accepted. The reason for this is because Wikipedia is trusted to be a neutral encyclopedia and having a person with a conflict of interest dictate how it is written will lessen the public's validation and view of us. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 18:07, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Frog cakes for hard-working admin

What a lot of posts from new and confused users you have on your page, Hickory, protesting against our sourcing rules, our copyright rules, etc, and needing explanations and soothing words from you. It can't be easy. You probably need some frog cakes! Bishonen | tålk 23:32, 16 April 2020 (UTC).

Awww, thanks Bishonen. Passover finally ended so I can actually eat these. Thanks a lot . HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 23:37, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
Have some frog cakes!

GA Review

Howdy hello! You had expressed a willingness to review GA's for the WP:CUP, and if you're free, I could use one! I've just finished expanding Vermilion flycatcher and have put it up for GAN. If you can't help, no biggie, but thought I'd reach out. Smooth sailing, CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 20:52, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Yup, I would love to do it! HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 22:29, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
CaptainEek, sorry I want to clarify if you'd wish I review this for the third round of the WikiCup/after the second round. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 23:36, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
HickoryOughtShirt?4, If possible I'd like it for this second round, the current one. Gotta make sure I get enough points this round to make it to the next one :) CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 23:38, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
CaptainEek on it . HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 23:38, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
Thanks! Sure do appreciate it. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 23:45, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

If I was a betting man..

How much you want to bet [[2]] is ShtHowles? Hell in a Bucket (talk) 17:52, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Hell in a Bucket I'll take you up on that bet . HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 05:22, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

DYK for George Dudley

— Maile (talk) 00:04, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

With respect to block

Actually it was the personal attack on me by Aqib Anjum as I was informing the wiki about his unbiased editing in favour of deobandi sect of Sunni Islam thanks have a great day Maizbhandariya (talk) 00:47, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

You were blocked by 331dot for " persistently making disruptive edits." Regardless, even if the block never happened, you should not request for adminship. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 00:49, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Is it possible to request for any other posts such as confirmed user or beurocrafts thanks Maizbhandariya (talk) 00:51, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Maizbhandariya I wouldn't even pass a request for bureaucrat. You will automatically become a confirmed user after a certain amount of edits and days. I suggest just keep making constructive edits before asking for rights such as WP:Rollback. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 00:53, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks have a good day Maizbhandariya (talk) 00:55, 19 April 2020 (UTC) One more question Is there any time limit and edit limit to be eligible for adminship Maizbhandariya (talk) 00:56, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Maizbhandariya, for a frame of reference, I was editing on Wikipedia for 18 months with 50k+ edits and still got opposes based on tenure. So I would say adminship should be far from your mind. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 00:57, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
I am astonished too see that you call my rollbacking your unconstructive edits as Personal Attack. There is available Wikipedia history in your userpage which specifically says that I helped you in bringing Saqib Iqbal Shami to mainspace — and you copied data from my userpage and started bullying and attacking me at KylieTastic's userpage and WP:Username Policy. You should stop all this hocuspocus and focus on the betterment of mainspace articles where you are interested. You are free to work on articles related to anything. You should have a glance at WP:REFB to avoid any further referencing issues. - Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 06:16, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Aidan Gallagher

Hey Hickory. I recently added information to Aidan Gallagher's wikipedia page. This information is true. I was friends with Aidan and talked to him on a daily basis. He came to Toronto and rented the house beside mine. He followed me on Instagram we Dm'ed everyday. I would love to update his page but you keep removing my edits. Why? Many edits I added can be proved by looking up straight facts.

Hi Thereseseljak and welcome to Wikipedia. On this website, everything you add must be sourced to a reliable reference (WP:RS). As well, since you clearly have a conflict of interest with Gallagher it is best you use WP:Edit requests. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 02:42, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Cale Morris

The article Cale Morris you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Cale Morris for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of MWright96 -- MWright96 (talk) 07:02, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

YAY! Thank you. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 08:07, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

COIN request

Morning HickoryOughtShirt?4, would you mind having a look at Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#Draft:Judi_Rever when you have some time? I have some evidence that I can't share on-wiki and I'm not really sure what to do about it. creffett (talk) 14:08, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Hey Creffett, a family member of mine fell down the stairs and is in the hospital so I won't be online much. I'll check it out when I can. Hope your family is safe and healthy. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 20:24, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
Oh gosh, I'm sorry to hear that. It's pretty much a non-issue now, the suspected COI editor requested that the article be deleted, but I do want to ask what to do in a similar situation in the future - I'll send you an email later with the details. I wish your family member a speedy recovery. creffett (talk) 20:26, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
Hey Creffett, I'm home now and the family member has been released. Feel free to send me that email. As well, re your concerns here, I interpreted it heavily on "if the issue is serious enough to warrant it." I don't believe I have ever emailed paid-en-wp@wikipedia.org, except possibly once when there was a WP:THREAT. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 01:01, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Delete Apple Leisure Group

Hello,

Since we can't get any of our edits completed we just want to pull down the page? How would I go about doing this?

Thanks you, Holly

Hi Holly and welcome to Wikipedia. Unfortunately, the company does not control if the page is on Wikipedia and it will not be pulled down simply because the company is upset they cannot control it. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 20:24, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Contested deletion

Created a bio page as a reference page for the CEO of a large corporation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuba_Jewgieniew

Does this mean pages like this will also be deleted: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_W._Keller Barcalaxy (talk) 03:48, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi Barcalaxy and welcome to Wikipeida. Firstly, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS and if the article on Gary W. Keller had content like Realty One Group a fast-growing real estate franchisor with a 100% commission model, a unique culture the company has termed “coolture,” and a complete system of partnered and proprietary tools and technologies for franchise owners and real estate professionals then yes, it would. Please read over our neutral point of view guidelines and be advised that editing for pay without proper disclosure is against our Wikimedia Terms of Use. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 03:51, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Contested deletion

Hello Please explain the reason why my work been deleted? Magicalreview (talk) 23:26, 16 April 2020 (UTC)Magicalreview

The Yogi Graphic Novel Magicalreview (talk) 23:26, 16 April 2020 (UTC)Magicalreview

what should i do to bring it back? Magicalreview (talk) 23:26, 16 April 2020 (UTC)Magicalreview

Hi Magicalreview and welcome to Wikipedia. I will not be restoring the article since it was a direct copyright violation, which Wikipedia takes very seriously. If you wish to re-write the article, make sure it is in your own words. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 18:38, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

HI HickoryOughtShirt?4 This is my work i received the permit to create those comics's from the Guru himself and to write his story through graphics. The Biography of a man can not be changed it was NOT copied it re used as our dear Guruji tells his store in many books and i tell his story on images. we are all disciples of one man with one story how should i change it? i have all permits and ISBN for my work. i can send you a video with my Guru telling that he allowed to use it.[link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1661519760810824/] you can see here in a post "GURUJI ABOUT CORONA VIRUS" that my comics on Gurujis table as he loves it and waiting for the next ones because he is a big comics fan. i can also send you permit of Gurujis desciple that he is an admin for his websites he also approve the use of Biography. do you mean for "Real Hero Biography"? all the rest is ok? Please update what should i do? as the story is the same and to rewrite it and change timeline of event would be worst than use something i got PERMIT to use. kindly waiting for your reply. Magicalreview (talk) 23:26, 16 April 2020 (UTC)Magicalreview

Magicalreview, You need to prove you own the material. Check out Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. I am also asking you to disclose your conflict of interest through WP:DISCLOSE. I am busy with work and cannot respond quickly to queries. I suggest checking out the WP:Teahouse if you have more questions. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 19:27, 16 April 2020 (UTC)


HickoryOughtShirt?4 I can not understand where i did wrong? really its my work i have created it and published it. what else i did wrong? i gave all references all link to online materials. if i will rewrite "Real Hero Biography" that would be fine? (or erase it). how can i provide you the permits? it gives only source codes that i should add nothing exact written. its was very hard and long time to create this page and now i left without it. i really need your help and specific explanation of whats really wrong? PLEASE ASSIST. I Really dont understand how can i ask for permit from something that belongs to me and is my work. Magicalreview (talk) 23:26, 16 April 2020 (UTC)Magicalreview

P.S i have no conflict of interest as you mention above i use my own work and publish my Guru life story through Graphic Novel. You just in a blink and a speed of light decided that im worng judged me and erased me even tho you had comments to not do so from people that wrote in talk. You misjudged me and it hurt my work and my time and now you write that youre at work and have no time which sounds unfair because its my job its my work and its my creation, i put more than a year on it and you erased in a second. Magicalreview (talk) 23:26, 16 April 2020 (UTC)Magicalreview

(talk page stalker) Magicalreview, the main problem here is copyright - we cannot accept text copied from elsewhere on the internet unless it has a suitable license, as otherwise that is a copyright violation (which is not only wrong, it's actually against the law and can result in Wikipedia being sued). If you want to reuse that text on Wikipedia, then you will be required to license the original text in such a way that anybody can do anything with that text - modify it, publish it elsewhere, remove it - and all they have to do is cite where they originally got the text from and share it under a similar license. If that's what you want, then follow HickoryOughtShirt?4's directions above and go to the page on donating copyrighted materials - the directions there will tell you the process for proving that you wrote the original text and releasing it under the appropriate license.
Regarding the conflict of interest - you absolutely have a conflict of interest - if someone is your Guru, then you have a relationship with that person which affects your ability to edit neutrally about them. You are expected to disclose that, per our policies. And regarding HickoryOughtShirt?4 being at work - everyone here is a volunteer, it is unreasonable of you to expect someone to be around all the time. Have patience. creffett (talk) 19:54, 16 April 2020 (UTC)


Hi (talk page watcher) talk HickoryOughtShirt?4

Wikipedia:THREAT. i have added a request to [Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion]. Wrote my explanation it the topic under the name [Draft:The Yogi Graphic Novel]. Please help me to publish my page.i really dont understand why you attack me its unreasonable, i am trying to post something that belongs to me. when WIKIpedia ask for donation i never asked or said it unreasonable but always supported always backed and always used. when youre a volunteer you dont have to mention it in every quote i respect your job and what you but you come from a place of self defense and just dont listen, trying to show me legal aspects when i know them by heart. Magicalreview (talk) 23:26, 16 April 2020 (UTC)Magicalreview

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(talk page watcher) talk HickoryOughtShirt?4 by the way and off the record this all project "The Yogi" is a donation to my dear Guruji, and its also can be confirmed by him. all the best i hope you feel good, my day and year was destroyed today.

Thank you Creffett (tbh makes me feel super cool to have TPW) for your much more detailed comment than I wrote. Magicalreview I'm sorry you feel I destroyed your year, that was not my intention. My goal was to show you that for legal reasons, we cannot allow copyrighted material on this website. I see you linked Wikipedia:THREAT but I'm not sure what you are referring to. Nothing I or Creffett have said was a legal threat but rather facts about how Wikipedia works. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 22:29, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Creffett HickoryOughtShirt?4 Can you point on what part been violated? i really cant understand its all my work my source of information that ive been allowed to use. please point on what to erase and i will upgrade it.

Magicalreview, as explained above you need to prove you own the material. You do this by following the process at donating copyrighted materials. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 22:36, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Creffett HickoryOughtShirt?4

So Basically you ask from me to donate my work to Wikipedia? "I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work, even in a commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws."

Magicalreview Yes but you have to email permissions-en@wikimedia.org and follow the specific instructions on the page. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 22:47, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
Magicalreview Wikipedia rules do not allow you to "share" your work on Wikipedia without giving it a proper license (which is what is meant by "donating"). The license Wikipedia uses does not allow for you to place limits on how your work may be used. As I said earlier: you will be required to license the original text in such a way that anybody can do anything with that text - modify it, publish it elsewhere, remove it - and all they have to do is cite where they originally got the text from and share it under a similar license. You cannot say "I allow Wikipedia to use this work, but they cannot change it and cannot use it elsewhere." And again, Wikipedia is not a place to promote your work. creffett (talk) 23:22, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

talk i totally agree with you and as you can see my intention is to show how this work happen i didnt create an account for myself to promote myself i really tried to show that there is a real person and his magical stories and he have a comics, its like living SuperMan thats was my intention in this article. but if you insist i will take off part that you will tell me. Magicalreview (talk) 23:36, 16 April 2020 (UTC)Magicalreview (talk)

Creffett HickoryOughtShirt?4 but what if i dont want to donate my work to wikipedia and still want to share it here?

Magicalreview What we are trying to say is that you cannot take text directly from the website unless you prove you own it. We aren't asking for the comics. We are saying that whatever text you wish to use on the article that has been published elsewhere needs to be properly attributed. If you cannot do that, then you cannot use it. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 22:49, 16 April 2020 (UTC)


Creffett HickoryOughtShirt?4 I am sending the email right now to permissions-en@wikimedia.org Magicalreview (talk) 23:24, 16 April 2020 (UTC)Magicalreview Creffett HickoryOughtShirt?4 attached drafts covers files. anything else needed? File sent ticket number [Ticket#: 2020041610010995] Magicalreview (talk) 23:24, 16 April 2020 (UTC)Magicalreview

Magicalreview I'm not sure since I'm not the one reviewing it nor do I have access to your ticket. If you followed the instructions on the page and have the proper proof I'm sure you're fine. Please remember to sign your messages on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 23:03, 16 April 2020 (UTC)


Creffett HickoryOughtShirt?4 Would my page will be restored? or i will recieve any notification? how does it works? Magicalreview (talk) 23:24, 16 April 2020 (UTC)Magicalreview

Magicalreview you will likely receive an email back. I will also reiterate that you still haven't disclosed your conflict of interest with this subject yet and please remember to sign your messages on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~).HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 23:07, 16 April 2020 (UTC)


Creffett HickoryOughtShirt?4 i added some code for conflict of interest not sure if its right and what does it mean? Magicalreview (talk) 23:24, 16 April 2020 (UTC)Magicalreview

Magicalreview I did it for you. It means that you have a personal/financial connection to the topic of Yogi Graphic Novel. Also, please sign your messages. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 23:21, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

signed Magicalreview (talk) 23:27, 16 April 2020 (UTC)Magicalreview


HI Creffett HickoryOughtShirt?4 Just received a msg from JJMC89‬ i read the instruction and understood. what should i do next? will someone open my article? will someone go with me through data that i should erase? thanks. Magicalreview (talk) 01:44, 17 April 2020 (UTC)


User:Ckatz Wikipedia:Deletion review User:larryv please help Magicalreview (talk) 06:11, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Magicalreview, I am waiting on a reply from JJMC89‬. We are all volunteers so it may take a bit, I appreciate your patience. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 06:20, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

HickoryOughtShirt?4 Can i repost my article? with copyvio-revdel? or other source code for review again? Magicalreview (talk) 06:26, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Please do not repost the article with the same text until I get a reply from JJMC89‬. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 06:28, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

HickoryOughtShirt?4

ok sure waiting for your instructions, erased it. added some codes to my articles if understood right from user:JJMC89. any way waiting for direct instructions from you as if i should repost and what should i erase or edit. Magicalreview (talk) 06:38, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Magicalreview JJMC89 says they only left you the conflict of interest notice on your talk page. I apologize, I thought they left that message after receiving an email. We will have to wait until someone responds to your message. I understand it is hard to wait but we are doing this to cover both of us in case of legal repercussions. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 07:00, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
Also, I am going to bed and cannot respond to queries. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 07:04, 17 April 2020 (UTC)


HickoryOughtShirt?4user:JJMC89

Have a good night. i Can prepare agreement from every admin on every domain that i refere to in my article. should i do it? (someone respond, who else should respond?)

also i have no worries as for case of legal repercussions because its MY WORK, the only case that i see here is personal harassment, removing of evidence from talk log from users that confirmed my identity, and blocking my page without any legal point. i spent the last 24 hours with no sleep but you are volunteer so you deserve o sleep. good night again. please open my page.


"When deleting a page through the speedy deletion process, please specify the reason for deletion in the deletion summary, so that it will be recorded into the deletion log. Quoting page content in the deletion summary may be helpful, but must not be done for attack content or copyrighted text. In some cases, it would be appropriate to notify the page's creator of the deletion."


i Never received an answer for Users that were against deleting and confirmed me as person and author, those talk reviews were erased. Magicalreview (talk) 07:08, 17 April 2020 (UTC) 


==Deprodding of (pagename)==

I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}} tag from (pagename), which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. Instead, I have started a deletion discussion at (place to list), which you may comment on. I have explained my reasons for doing so there. Thanks! Magicalreview (talk) 07:08, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

HickoryOughtShirt?4user:JJMC89

What should i do with the notification above? would my page be restored? or any new constructive manuals will be givven?

<Have sent to WIKIcommons emails with my docs and permits and passport copy to open my article and let me work on, but no reply [Ticket#2020041610010995] [The Yogi Graphic Novel] i have proved my id and my copyrights thru many emails, msg from other users etc. and discussions, Please someone release my article. been waiting for an answer for 2:30 hours i provided everything that was requested.>

--Magicalreview (talk) 12:33, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Magicalreview Wow, okay a lot happened while I went to sleep. Firstly, No', do not create an argument for every admin about the copyright status of your work. It doesn't work like that. You sent the email not even 24 hours ago, please have patience. Secondly, others and I have only tried to help you and you seem tom be looking for wrongdoing. I'm sorry you feel as if I am harassing you, that was never my intention, but please have patience while we wait for some answers. Thank you, HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 15:19, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
For those curious, Magicalreview was blocked by another admin. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 01:35, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Helga Poznanski Page

Hi you deleted the page Helga Poznanski which had been flagged for speedy deletion however I had just contested the deletion as the copyright it claimed to violate was content that belonged to me. I verified this copyrighted material as valid for reuse by adding the appropriate copyright information to the footer of the website in question, but you deleted the page anyway. Are you able to explain why and possibly bring the page back as it cannot be in violation of infringement if it’s my text and was given permission to be reused? Thanks! ([[User:Lostrobots|Lostrobots]]&#124[[User talk:Lostrobots|t]] )([[User:Lostrobots|COI]]) (talk) 12:44, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Lostrobots, the main problem here is copyright - we cannot accept text copied from elsewhere on the internet unless it has a suitable license, as otherwise that is a copyright violation (which is not only wrong, it's actually against the law and can result in Wikipedia being sued). If you want to reuse that text on Wikipedia, then you will be required to license the original text in such a way that anybody can do anything with that text - modify it, publish it elsewhere, remove it - and all they have to do is cite where they originally got the text from and share it under a similar license. If that's what you want, then go to the page on donating copyrighted materials - the directions there will tell you the process for proving that you wrote the original text and releasing it under the appropriate license.HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 13:05, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Reverted Nixor College's edits

Hello, I recently made changes and edits to the page Nixor College but you apparently reverted the changes, saying that the sources weren't credible. I assure you, they were. In fact, I'm a student at Nixor College so I can personally verify all those statements.

Hi Boidushya and welcome to Wikipedia. Everything you add on Wikipedia must be cited to a reliable source. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 01:05, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

I can assure you that the source was reliable and was properly cited.

There are no sources for Nixor has also been subject to criticism on their high tuition fees which go up to Rs. 50,000. People assume that Nixor is using their established name to charge parents hefty fees or It also provides accelerated A'level courses in which a course of a two-year syllabus is completed in one, with a good faculty that helps students achieve such a hard goal in a year. It read more like an ad than a neutral encyclopedia. Find a third party source that says these things and then add it. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 01:21, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Why are my edits being reverted even when they are cited from a reliable source, you are taking away information of a prestigious school away, misguiding people who want to look it up.

Hi Boidushya. If people want to find information on this school, they can look at the schools website. The encyclopedia reports on what sources that about the school, not what the school says itself. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 01:23, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

I will be citing sources of everything on that page, I hope it remains untouched for a few minutes while I crawl the internet for sources.

Boidushya Please do not re-add content until you can find independent, reliable sources (ie. not from the school website) for each of your additions. Feel free to use the WP:Sandbox prior to inputting the text. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 01:27, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
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