User talk:HickoryOughtShirt?4/Archives/2018/April

Pat at Bloom

I think we are possibly being trolled. In any case, I wouldn't spend too much time on it; I have already asked that "Pat" be blocked. General Ization ^Talk 05:40, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, I agree. I just wanted to exhaust all options. G-d I hate April Fools Day.HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 05:43, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

AN/I Notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Please see WP:ANI#User:Patriciamontazaah Sierrak28 (talk) 06:37, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Notable Alumni

Hey man you said I provided a unreliable source but it’s a local high school news outlet. Also I said a rappers stage name do you want the real name. Lamarsmith15 (talk) 02:32, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

@Lamarsmith15: I actually didn't say you didn't provide a reliable source, that was another editor. I said your list entry was a red link, meaning they don't have a wiki article and are therefore considered not notable. I suggest creating the article first (WP:YFA), if they pass our notability criteria, then adding it in. By the way, a local highschool newspaper doesn't show notability. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 02:37, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Brilliant Idea Barnstar
	Thank you for your advice!!:) Higginsal (talk) 23:31, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Always nice to see another person in anti-vandalism.  I dream of horses  If you reply here, please ping me by adding {{U|I dream of horses}} to your message  (talk to me) (My edits) @ 05:03, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, you are such a big help too! HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 05:04, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Can I Update the Stats yet? is it the end of the NHL Season yet???

To HickoryOughtShirt?4

Just wondering HickoryoughtShirt?4 Can I Update the NHL Season Stats yet and is it the end of the season yet? I am just checking with you first so there are no more issues!!! I hope you appreciate That Gilly1986 (talk) 00:08, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Yours Sincerely

Gilly1986

@Gilly1986: Thanks for the ping, it was thoughtful and I do appreciate it. The main reason I had an issue was because you would add a 2017-18 section with no stats, just the box. It's not the end of the season yet though so I would wait. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 00:22, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Jamal Robinson

Tricky. It might even be the person or a relation looking at the user name - not that I like Jamaal0922 and Jamaal33 in the same history! - there's a lot of unref data. It's difficult to decide on things like birthday (which seem to be a place of attack), when there is no refs - might be better to remove it altogether - or just have the year. Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 22:50, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

@Ronhjones: I found two refs for the page, including a ref from foxsports for his birthday so would that be enough? I found a ref from his highschool saying he graduated in 93 too. It is true that birthday are tricky and can be contested but their edits are either sloppy or deliberately breaking the nav box as seen here and here. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 22:55, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Any ref is better than none, and to contest needs a better one!. I did note the infobox breaking - that may just be a novice editor. Give then enough rope Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 23:00, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

@Ronhjones: Okay, sounds good. If they strike again can I ping you? HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 23:01, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Depends when! It's 1am here, and I won't be up much longer. Back at 19:00 UTC. Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 23:04, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Ha sorry. I'll just go to AIV. Good night! HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 23:05, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

@Ronhjones: Hey, I don't know if you are still online but the user is back again [1]. Once again they changed the persons name, breaking the info box, and removed references. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 01:37, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Indef block - vandalism only account. I'm guessing it won't be the last we see of him - I've set the page to "pending changes" as well Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 16:37, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Putting up Charlene McMann for deletion for not notable

Requesting to put up Charlene McMann up for deletion, delete article on Charlene McMann due to notability. The information is tabloid nrwspaoet worthy, not notability. The standard of Wikipedia are higher than tabloid journalism and should be used to people who are notable not tabloid journalism.

I suggest you discuss this on Talk:Charlene McMann. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 05:04, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Religion figures of Patiala city

Hi. I am here to correct you about this edit of yours. You have clearly misinterpreted this source. It mentions Patiala district's religion figures at the top and those of cities and towns in the district afterwards starting with Patiala city's figures. Clearly, you forgot to scroll down to see those figures. Since there are separate articles on Patiala city and Patiala district, their individual respective religious figures have to be mentioned in their respective articles as is the case with most Indian district headquarters cities and their namesake districts. Punjab, India has also a different demography in that the urban part of the state has a 60% Hindu majority, while rural Punjab has over 70% Sikh majority. Overall Punjab had 57.7% Sikhs and 38.5% Hindus. In simple words, Hindus predominate in most major cities and even small towns in Punjab with Sikhs forming a very large minority (in some cities like Amritsar, a second majority). For avoiding confusion, I have replaced the earlier source with another one from the same site focussing on Patiala city's figures. You can even cross check the figures from the official government site of Census of India but that will be a daunting task since the census library is huge. For the same purpose, Government of India has sort of approved this site. I apologise for being a little harsh in my edit summary but what was to be corrected had to be corrected. I hope you will introspect and understand your mistake. Have a good day. Vibhss (talk) 05:54, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

@Vibhss: Thank you for explaining and correcting it. Please note this wasn't done with malicious intent and I don't think an admin would block me as you note in your edit summary based on the circumstances. I think I was mainly concerned with the fact that IPs were completely blanking the section like this for example, [2], [3], with no explanation despite encouragement from many editors. I do appreciate you pinging me on my talk page since I am not watching the page.HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 06:02, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

@HickoryOughtShirt?4: I once again apologize for that comment but I am really tired of reverting vandals (mainly IPs) who keep on maliciously tempering with religious percentages in various articles and I thought you to be one. Of course I didn't see your user page before. Vibhss (talk) 06:16, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

@Vibhss: No problem, no harm was done and I get what you mean about fighting vandals. Thank you for helping to keep Wikipedia accurate. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 06:19, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Minnesota Wild

Well, thanks for correcting yourself after you misread my edits. Yeah, so I noticed a couple of people have been vandalizing the article for the Wild after their recent loss to the Avalanche. My main goal here on Wikipedia is to help fight vandalism, and I plan to watch the article.

@Snidester: I am sorry about that. I was seeing if my request for page protection was accepted and I noticed your report so I thought I'd stop by to help. Clearly, it is getting too late for me to edit, oops! If you want to fight vandalism, I suggest you check out Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism Unit and recent changes patroller, that's how I noticed most of the vandalism on Wiki. If you have any questions don't be afraid to stop by. Just a tip, when you post on someone's Wiki add four tidals (~) to add your signature.HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 06:37, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

@Snidester: Oh, I forgot to mention this; when you revert vandalism and it is continuous despite warnings you can report them at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. I see you already found page protection which can be effective but AIV is meant for specific editors doing vandalism. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 06:50, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Does the CVU require alot dedication? I filed a request to have the Minnesota Wild article temporarily protected, so I guess we can see how that goes. And, I have already seen AIV, I reported a user who contentiously added false info the Welsh Corgi page.Snidester (talk) 06:54, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Nope, CVU doesn't require a lot of dedication but when I was new and confused about some policies they were very helpful when I posted questions on their talk page. You can request to be mentored at Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism Unit/Academy where experienced editors help new users with the in-and-outs of vandalism fighting if you wish for something with a lot of dedication. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 06:58, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Ah, ok. I did read that you must have atleast 200 mainspace edits before joining. Is this true or am I misinterpreting it? I'll check it out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snidester (talk • contribs) 07:06, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Oh you're right, I'm sorry I forgot about that. However, with the way you're going I'm sure you'll be at 200 before the end of this month! HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 07:09, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Well now I've reached the 200 edit count, I'm most likely going to join the CVU when I can. Snidester (talk) 01:25, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Yay! Good luck! HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 01:26, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

There isn't much opportunity right now however, for me. Snidester (talk) 02:52, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

What do you mean? They aren't taking people right now? Well I see you got rollback rights so that's a good way to counter vandalism. You seem to be on the right track! And again, if you have any questions about vandalism etc. you can ping me or ask on the CVU talk page. Also, admins are always happy to help. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 02:56, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Well actually I'm doing assignments now, but my schoolwork has other plans for now. Snidester (talk) 06:59, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Ah, getting everything done before the playoffs, smart :). HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 07:03, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

It would be even smarter if my Stars decided not to choke out of their great playoff spot. A sports teams from Dallas loses a bunch of games in a row resulting in them choking a good playoff spot. I feel like I've seen this before. Snidester (talk) 07:19, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

@Snidester: Better than them choking on a 4–1 lead in Game 7. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 07:22, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Ghost Stories spoilers

Hi there, I got your message re: not changing a synopsis for spoilers. I'm the co-writer and director of the film. It's such a shame that this is able to happen. This is the first week of the movie's release in the UK before its international release across April. A large part of the enjoyment of the story is in the reveal of the third act twist. To have this information on Wikipedia at this point in the film's life cycle, ahead of its actual release is of no benefit to anyone. All it does is diminish the potential pleasure it may yield to an interested audience member. Feels more like somebody out there wanting to degrade other people's experience of the film for there own purposes. (I accept that in a year's time the situation is different - information is information). with all good wishes Dysonjeremy (talk) 08:59, 12 April 2018 (UTC)Jeremy Dyson

Hi @Dysonjeremy: and thank you for telling me this. Since you have a Coflict of interest it is recommended that you don't edit this page, or any page with content you have a personal relationship with, in the future and instead make requested edits on the articles talk page. If you want to make edits to the plot to minimize the spoilers make a request on the talk page and other editors can help you. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 09:08, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

End of season date is it after the regular season or playoffs?

To HickoryOughtShirt?4 Just wondering mate when is it safe to edit ice hockey is it after the regular season or playoffs and what is the date please because i am not going to edit current ice hockey seasons til it is safe to do so???? I hope you appreciate that.

Yours Sincerely

Gilly 1986 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gilly1986 (talk • contribs) 23:52, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

@Gilly1986: Hey Gilly, feel free to update regular season stats for players since it is the end of the regular season.HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 23:54, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Ok thank you HickoryOughtShirt?4 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gilly1986 (talk • contribs) 23:57, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Structial Damp

I didn't know I had a talk page. I don't know how to message you from the talk page. I haven't edited a topic in many years. I found the talk page for Structural Damp and some didn't think it actually exists but it does and I left some links to U.S.A sites that are building practices for our version of "Damp" in veneer brick standards and using metal to stop capillary action and driven rain. On the Editors ademden on that page I left a external link and mentioned that the 6th paragraph down was the information I cut and pasted to solution of synthetic materials.2605:A601:3122:1600:7132:A315:4F40:DCEA (talk) 03:19, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. I thank you for your contributions since you seem knowledgeable about the topic. The reason I reverted this edit was because of the language you use. In order to keep articles neutral, please don't use words like "I" or "This is an editors note". An articles Wikipedia page is meant purely for facts, not personal anecdotes. Feel free to bring this up on the Talk:Damp (structural) and try to find a way to add the information in without personal pronouns or opinions. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 03:22, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Making edits

Hi,

I am trying to make edits to the Mesirow Financial page that keep being reverted back.

Why is this? Can you help me remove the following: "In 2016, the company contributed $331,129 to political organizations, primarily to organizations affiliated with the Democratic Party.[3]"

This is outdated and no longer relevant.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.252.173.10 (talk) 21:12, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello, I believe you have a conflict of interest with Mesirow Financial based on previous edits to the page. I suggest requesting this edit on Talk:Mesirow Financial where other editors can add their opinion. As well, please read WP:PSCOI. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 21:15, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

So you're saying only users who do not work at the company can make edits to the page? Seems odd... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.252.173.10 (talk) 21:29, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

It is recommended that way to keep the page neutral. For example, edits like this [4] are very promotionally worded and are not neutral. Wikipedia isn't a soapbox or a place to advertise a company, it is merely for facts. I am sure you can agree it is hard to remain neutral when you work for the company. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 21:31, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

dark

gets a bit murky in the hot steamy muddy place - hadnt seen your earlier report until after posted mine - JarrahTree 09:27, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: Haha I've done that. Thanks for helping out! Don't you hate it when you're doing productive work and get pulled away by trolls? Been happening to me all day. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 09:31, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

says a lot about your watch list - there is an art in having a very large watch list with no easy target items on it :( JarrahTree 09:33, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: Hah, that is true. Since mine are mostly sports articles and it's the playoffs...you get the idea. You wouldn't believe how many people seem to die on a basketball court. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 09:37, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

What do you mean

I clearly cited conclusive evidence of the incident. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MattHagg (talk • contribs) 22:22, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

@MattHagg: A picture of a single person with no wider context isn't good enough. Check out WP:RS and WP:V. As well, the incident isn't notable and even if there was a source wouldn't likely qualify to be on the school's page. It's regular high school gossip. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 22:24, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Catholic Relief Services

Hi, I saw this come up across the Huggle feed. Looking at the talk page there seemed to be some discussion but no consensus that the "controversies" section is not neutral. I've also done some digging into the Lepanto Institute, which seems to be the source of most of the "controversies"... and to be honest they do not seem to be a reliable source. Their Contact and About pages even have spam links inserted into them! I know that WP:NPOV says that bias does not mean a source is unreliable, but at the very least the bullets that just say "The Lepanto Institute said X" should be questioned. RA0808 ^talk_contribs 21:04, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

I've also started a discussion at Talk:Catholic Relief Services#Rewrite of controversies section for egregious NPOV violations. RA0808 ^talk_contribs 21:28, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

@RA0808: Thanks! I'm not watching the page since I just came across it while patrolling recent changes a month ago. I did tell the IP to take it to the talk page before making any drastic changes so thanks for making the start. I don't know much about this topic so I probably won't be contributing but thanks for telling me about it. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 03:42, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Scott Foster (ice hockey)

On 30 April 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Scott Foster (ice hockey), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Scott Foster, a 36-year-old accountant, made his professional ice hockey debut as a goaltender for the Chicago Blackhawks in 2018 and saved every shot he faced? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Scott Foster (ice hockey). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Scott Foster (ice hockey)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 30 April 2018 (UTC)