User talk:Francis Tyers/Archive10

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... the third party's weapon is not a self loading rifle but his ability without force or threats to persuade both sides to avoid violence and settle their differences by peaceful means ... - The Peacekeeper's Handbook

To be unpopular with both sides at the same time is probably the best pointer to the fact that one is performing one's duties correctly and with impartiality. - The Peacekeeper's Handbook

I archive my talk page when it gets longer than is preferable. You should too!

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Cultural relationship between the Welsh and the English

Just curious as to your reasoning for changing "native inhabitants" to "earlier inhabitants". Do you have the same view about "Native Americans", for instance? Would you prefer "indigenous"? Ghmyrtle (talk) 14:59, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re "invasion" and "displacement" - not true, I think ... anyway, "earlier" is very weak and I'd rather change it to "existing" or "indigenous" inhabitants. I don't speak Welsh at all - although I have distant Welsh antecedents and live here now, I was born and lived most of my life in England, which is what makes me interested in the relationship. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:41, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

religious nationalism

As an editor of the article Nationalism, please note that the section Religious Nationalism has now been separated from the main article into its own article Religious nationalism. Please join in and help bring this newly formed article up to standard. Especially important is avoiding a Systemic Bias and adding Citations.

All the best, Witty Lama 04:35, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there

How are you doing these days? Still listening to Scandinavian metal? Seen Opeth lately? Do you work on Tajik articles these days? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 18:09, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I saw some youtube clips of some Finnish metal bands a while ago and I was quite impressed I have to say. WHat is the Tajik connection with you. To the UK having a fluency of the language is quite unusual, do you have Tajik ancestry or something? I tried adding some of the towns and villages a few weeks back but there doesn't seme that much info available on them ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 20:22, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do you recognize any articles in Category:Cities, towns and villages in Tajikistan which have more informative articles on Tajik wiki? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 21:08, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

hey! try to be WP:CIVIL and to not delete sourced info with 1-2 words that goes against the Wiki rules! read and participate in discussions at first! Andranikpasha (talk) 18:03, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Khojaly Monument.jpg

Hello Francis. Recently you removed the above image from article Khojaly Massacre. You indicated that it is not particularly appropriate at the top of the page. Well, I think the monument is the only available material at Wikipedia to illustrate the article, and is the only free available image of the monument that can be found on Commons. This being said, do you think we should include the image in the article at all or maybe wait until the deletion request settles? Thanks --Kimse (talk) 20:35, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article is about the massacre, and not about the city. So, since we don't have the images from the massacre itself appropriately licensed for commons, it leaves us with only this image to use. Or do you have anything in mind to suggest that could be use from Armenian side? We also could use some images from other languages under Fair Use, but I think they'll get deleted anyway. About the mentioned deletion request, do you know how long they usually last? --Kimse (talk) 22:00, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think a city photo would rather be used in Khojali instead of in Khojaly Massacre. Have you seen the images on the subject from other languages? I think this monument image is as neutral addition as it can get, at least for now. In my search of other visual materials for this article, I stumbled upon one from Askeran. Take a look at the article's image, it's close but in my opinion it's not exactly related to the massacre.

As a comparison, let's take a look at (1) Virginia Tech massacre. They don't have images of just the campus there, they have images of mourning students, a satellite photo, student's taking cover and an interim memorial photo besides many others. And (2), Auschwitz concentration camp doesn't just have images of the Polish city of Oświęcim, but also of the sight of the camp, satellite photo, maps, and several memorials. Therefore, I think the Image:Khojaly Monument.jpg is a good visual representation of the article for now. And when more free licensed images become available with time, more of them can be used in the article. I rest my case! :) --Kimse (talk) 23:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reply

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AfD nomination of List of famous people described as anglophiles

I have nominated List of famous people described as anglophiles, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of famous people described as anglophiles. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Pascal.Tesson (talk) 15:31, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

CfD nomination of Category:Ethnic political parties

Category:Ethnic political parties, which you created, has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Cgingold (talk) 12:25, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Grammatical conjunction

S'okay. Really, I was a bit quick on the 'rollback' trigger - if I'd looked at your contribs history first I'd've realised it was a good faith edit. Philip Trueman (talk) 10:05, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Survey request

Hi,
I need your help. I am working on a research project at Boston College, studying creation of medical information on Wikipedia. You are being contacted, because you have been identified as an important contributor to one or more articles.

Would you will be willing to answer a few questions about your experience? We've done considerable background research, but we would also like to gather the insight of the actual editors. Details about the project can be found at the user page of the project leader, geraldckane. Survey questions can be found at geraldckane/medsurvey. Your privacy and confidentiality will be strictly protected!

The questions should only take a few minutes. I hope you will be willing to complete the survey, as we do value your insight. Please do not hesitate to contact me or Professor Kane if you have any questions.

Thank You, BCeagle0312 (talk) 16:33, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Need to talk asap re Farsi, Swahili, MT

Hi Francis,

Please give me a buzz as soon as you have some time to talk. Some interesting things have come up during recent meetings in Kigali and Nairobi regarding machine translation, etc., that I need to chat with you about.

Best,
Malangali (talk) 11:26, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A new task force - ESA

Hello,

I've noticed that you are active in the area of space exploration. I just wanted to let you know that a European Space Agency task force has been set up to improve the presently very poor condition of articles about ESA and related topics. If you are interested, please join the task force here. We sure could use your help. Thanks.U5K0 (talk) 11:25, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tag removal

Please don't remove speedy deletion tags from articles, as you did here. It's considered vandalism. If you disagree with the tag, please add a {{hold on}} tag and make your case on the article's talk page instead.

The article in question has been deleted three times before, so the tag was placed in good faith. I'm not going to speedy delete it this time because I think you've tried to assert notability in a reasonable way, but I still don't think it meets our criteria as it is so I'm going to send it to AfD instead. Kafziel ^{Complaint Department} 16:33, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, seeing as the article asserts notability, the tag was inappropriate so I removed it. - Francis Tyers · 17:00, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As the author, that's not for you to decide. Kafziel ^{Complaint Department} 17:13, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If it had been added by a logged in user probably not, but by an IP sure. - Francis Tyers · 17:16, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's not correct. Anonymous users have the same rights as registered users in those cases. Look - there's nothing you can say that will make what you did okay. Just say "okay", don't do it again, and there's no problem. Kafziel ^{Complaint Department} 17:19, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

pleasent meeting you on ##nlp linas (talk) 17:06, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reward for African country editing

Hi, I was wondering as a part of the reward board offering if you could please copyedit Burundi. I am trying to get this article to GA status. Any extra advice will help. Thanks. miranda 06:04, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Districts of Tajikistan

Hi, in February 2007 you created Districts of Tajikistan with a list of numbered districts. Do you remember where the numbers came from and in what order the districts were listed? I need this information to start the process of keying the district names to the map that was subsequently added by Rarelibra to this page. Thank you. --Zlerman (talk) 15:14, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bot on TG

Dear Francis Tyers. You block my bot on TG but also mi ip address on it. I inform you by mail but i do it also here. I stopped my bot on TG and if you would i request a bot flag, please unblock my ip address. Sincerely --GdGourou - °o° - Talk to me 23:21, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, could you take at least a moment to respond me, on fr, here or by mail ? --GdGourou - °o° - Talk to me 08:47, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot --GdGourou - °o° - Talk to me 11:18, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Euh... the ip seems to be blocked until this evening (21:22), you reduce the period to 1 day... The bot has already been desactivated on tg until further notice, i couldn't do more... Should I wait until to make my request ? --GdGourou - °o° - Talk to me 11:24, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Something wrong somewhere :

Имкони сохтани ҳисоби корбарӣ аз ин нишонаи IP (89.80.219.74) аз тарафи Francis Tyers баста шудааст.
Далели Francis Tyers чунин аст Ба таври худкор нишонаи IP-и шумо баста шуда чун аз тарафи "Ptbotgourou" истифод шуда буд, ки нишонааш бо шумо як аст. Далели бастан Ptbotgour
Бозгашт ба Корбар:Francis Tyers.

--GdGourou - °o° - Talk to me 12:50, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I try to connect with my bot user account and i have this message:

You do not have permission to вироиши саҳифаҳо, for the following reason:
Дастрасии нишонаи IP шумо қатъ шудааст, сабаб он аст, ки ин нишонаи IP аз тарафи корбаре истифода мешуд, ки дастрасии ӯ аз тарафи Francis Tyers қатъ гардонида шудааст.

Иллати зикршуда чунин аст:

    Ба таври худкор нишонаи IP-и шумо баста шуда чун аз тарафи "Ptbotgourou" истифод шуда буд, ки нишонааш бо шумо як аст. Далели бастан Ptbotgour 
:Hello. 
:Actually, when you block an account with "IP autoblock" mode, there's a 2nd block on the IP that appears like 
:'' Ба таври худкор нишонаи IP-и шумо баста шуда чун аз тарафи "(user name)" истифод шуда буд, ки нишонааш бо шумо як аст. Далели бастан StigBot чуни� '' and that appears with an associated #(number)
:In order for the person to be really unblocked, you also have to remove that IP block when it exists.
:I took the liberty of doing it for this one, but you'll also encounter that problem for StigBot ( #1264 )
:Please contact me (on frwiki) if you have any question regarding that or regarding blocks in general
:[[User:Darkoneko|DarkoNeko]] x 20:07, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

    * Шурӯъи қатъи дастрасӣ: 21:22، 26 сентябри 2008
    * Поёни қатъи дастрасӣ: 21:22، 27 сентябри 2008 

Шумо метавонед бо Francis Tyers ё яке аз дигаре мудирон тамос бигиред, то дар мавриди ин қатъи дастрасӣ сӯҳбат кунед.

Таваҷҷӯҳ кунед, ки барои ирсоли почтаи электронӣ дар вики бояд почтаи электронии худро дар саҳифаи тарҷиҳоти корбарӣ фаъол карда бошед ва низ, имкони истифода аз ин вижагӣ барои шумо қатъ набошад.
Шумораи қатъи дастрасии шумо 1262 аст. Лутфан ин шумораро дар ҳар дархосте, ки дар ин матраҳ мекунед, қайд кунед.

Шумо метавонед матни викии ин саҳифаро назар кунед ё нусха бардоред:

With my human account I couldn't log myself (previous message)... I don't understood what it could be. Sincerely --GdGourou - °o° - Talk to me 14:51, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello.

Actually, when you block an account with "IP autoblock" mode, there's a 2nd block on the IP that appears like

Ба таври худкор нишонаи IP-и шумо баста шуда чун аз тарафи "(user name)" истифод шуда буд, ки нишонааш бо шумо як аст. Далели бастан StigBot чуни� and that appears with an associated #(number)

In order for the person to be really unblocked, you also have to remove that IP block when it exists.

I took the liberty of doing it for this one, but you'll also encounter that problem for StigBot ( #1264 )

Please contact me (on frwiki) if you have any question regarding that or regarding blocks in general

DarkoNeko x 20:07, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Macedonia (terminology) FAR

Macedonia (terminology) has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. - (User) Wolfkeeper (Talk) 23:13, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FAR AN/I

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Administative abuse of process of FAR. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:03, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey

Hey, Francis ... I wonder if you're aware that Yannismarou (talk · contribs) semi-retired after an unfortunate incident? I'm unsure if you are close with him, but an encouraging word may help. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:05, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please, you could translate in Tajik the articles Martin Weinek and Kaspar Capparoni? Thank you so much!

Good evening to you and regards from Campora San Giovanni. I write you regarding the articles of a note police television series: Kommissar Rex. For better saying some principal actors of the international series. Martin Weinek (pronunced Vaynek) and Kaspar Capparoni. Weinek is the veteran of the Austrian series, now real member of the series international, as well as excellent agricultural and theatrical entrepreneur and an experienced wine-grower. Capparoni is the new entry of the series, but he has already worked and he works for international productions and with famous directors, I quote among everybody: Dario Argento. I think that the series will arrive within the winter 2008 thanks also to Rai International, that will be transmitted in 150 countries and in more than 70/80 languages, among which the Tajik. Naturally if you will help me in this, me rechangend really the favor translating a biography or a geographical article in Italian and Sicilian. In fact on the Italian edition they are biographer and geographer. In attends him of one certain answer of yours I thank you in advance and I greet you from Campora San Giovanni, my village native. Thanks still for the patience and the understanding.--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 08:28, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Macedonian language naming dispute

I have nominated Macedonian language naming dispute, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Macedonian language naming dispute. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Alex Makedon (talk) 00:23, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

TV3 (Catalonia) - "Banned" in Comunitat Valenciana

Should the fact that TV3 is no longer able to be broadcast in the Comunitat Valenciana be mentioned? - Francis Tyers · 00:31, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Saw the above note on TV3 (Catalonia). If you have details about this, Please do add them. Thanks. --Lendorien (talk) 18:52, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lola Pagnani

Hi Francis! some a long time ago you told me that you were able me auitare to translate from Spanish into English. Dear I submit you this delicate assignment to save the article from the catastrophe. You are able because better of me you are practical with the languages. In particolar way between the English and the Spanish. In change I will help you with the Italian dialects that I know: Sicilian, Neapolitan, Calabrian of Cosenza, Venetian, Piedmontese. The main point is that I have a base in Italian. In attends him of one certain answer of yours, I thank you in advance and I send you the regards from my village native.--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 21:24, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I make sense of better me, correct you take it as example the Spanish edition. Thanks still!--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 12:45, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nagorno-Karabakh

Hi, thanks for your intervention in the NK article. I understand that some of my edits need more discussion, however I dont understand why all my edits were removed whithout the mention what exactly is dubious or something. For example, you removed some new images and some text were was said that in the 9th c. NK was ruled by the House of Aranshahik, that Sahl Smbatean established the House of Khachen in 821, that the principalities of Karabakh were officially recognised by the Russian Empire, etc. etc. All of this information was based on the works of the western scholar R. Hewsen.

If you think that A and B are dubious, I think you should remove only A and B mantion that in the talkpage. In this case my edits are removed from A to Z. I respectfully ask you to replace my edits and images which are not disputed by anyone and mention the ones which need further discussion in the talkpage. --Vacio (talk) 08:50, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I appreaciate the work of mediators. However, often facilitators assume a posture that promotes artificial impartiality also known as wrongful balance. Consensus-building is a good thing but for someone who is not well-familiar with the subject matter, it might be difficult to tell between a well-argued-out and backed-up opinion and a frivolous POV edit. As a result, facilitators end up mechanically endorsing or reversing edits they do not understand - just to preserve a mantle of "balance." Please be aware of this nuance. Capasitor (talk) 23:59, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your reaction on my talk page. However I must note, that the current intro of Nagorno-Karabakh seems not to be a result of very long discussion and concensus, but rather a massive edits by user Neelmack (talk · contribs) with not even a single word in the talk page. I think the current intro is very muddy and contains some POVs. I hope we will work together to make it better. With kind regards --Vacio (talk) 12:53, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In your last edit of Nagorno-Karabakh you also reverted my last edit [1], by which I had removed the mention that Artsakh was been a province of Caucasian Albania. I have quoted the western scholar Robert Hewsen in the talk page to show that this is a misconception. No one jet argued against this argumemt, however this is the third time that excerpt is placed back after I have removed it. --Vacio (talk) 11:12, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have you a source which supports the claim that it has been a province of Albania?--Vacio (talk) 11:14, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Article collaboration proposal at WikiProject Space Colonization

Hi, I've put together a proposal for an article collaboration of the week at WikiProject Space Colonization. I would appreciate if you could take a look and let me know if you're interested in participating. Wronkiew (talk) 17:41, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

NK

Happy holidays. You are welcome to comment here. Brand спойт 12:51, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Abdul Raheem Glaiati

Hi there, An article you started back in 2006, Abdul Raheem Glaiati, was prodded for deletion. I removed the prod because I think it is worth saving if we can find a source. Please add the source you used to create the article in order to save it.--Thomas.macmillan (talk) 01:20, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

An article that you have been involved in editing, Abdul Raheem Glaiati, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abdul Raheem Glaiati. Thank you. Cheers, CP 17:50, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've got access to JSTOR, I will check them out either tonight or tomorrow. Thanks for research.--Thomas.macmillan (talk) 00:15, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Csangos

Hello. Not "insufficiently"? 2 RELIABLE recognised organizations are not good enough? Please stop removing referenced sources. Thank you.Baxter9 (talk) 22:53, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Create a separate article for the anthem FIRST if you want, and then remove referenced reliable material from articles.Baxter9 (talk) 23:00, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Baxter9

Would you please check this user. He strated 2 edit wars tonight and he removed the 2 3RR warnings from his discussion page. Thanks--Bluehunt (talk) 23:16, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Culture

Hi, until a few days ago this article was a total trainwreck. I just did a major overhaul, although I believe I was pretty conservative: I cut all the redundancies, any material that was fringe or unrelated, and then tried to reorganize what was left so that distinct points of view or approaches were explicit. It still needs a lot of work (I explain all this in more detail on the article talk page, bottom). I created a section on "American Anthropology" but I am thinking perhaps that should be renamed "cultural anthropology." Because one thing I did not do - but which I believe is important - was to create a new section on "culture and language." But I am not qualified to write such a section. I am hoping you can, or at least make a start of it. I was thinking of a section that says something about how in human evolution culture and language coevolved; in what ways culture and language are related, and in what ways they are not, how linguists think of culture, maybe some basic stuff on ethnolinguistics and sociolinguistics with links to the real articles. Well, I hope you will consider it. Thanks, Slrubenstein | Talk 21:15, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GA Reassessment of BLEU

Just wanted to make certain that you, as a major contributor to this article, were aware that BLEU has been nominated for a good article reassessment. Articles are typically reviewed for one week. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to good article quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article. Reviewers' concerns are here. --Malleus Fatuorum 22:17, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm concerned that I've perhaps started to make some significant changes to this article, not just minor copyedits, and I think a few more are needed before I'd be happy to close this reassessment as a "keep". Would you prefer if this became a community review so that others can get involved, or are you happy to continue on our present track? --Malleus Fatuorum 00:07, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello!

Hi, Francis. I would like to bother you for a while :-) Someone has created a category which I've labelled it for speedy deletion, but another admin deleted it. It is a blatant POV pushing, and not to mention WP:V, WP:NOR, WP:DIS and WP:Hoax. It is funny though, that in the history section, the author is not marked. Could this be some sort of a hack? Can this be fixed? Thank you. Bomac (talk) 21:55, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bomac. Deleting the category page is no problem – because it was you who created the category page in the first place. It didn't previously exist. What did exist was some vandal edit to some template that made articles appear in this category [2]. Somebody fixed it, but it apparently takes a bit of time to actually show up in the pages. Fut.Perf. ☼ 22:15, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Seems this has been solved without me. :) - Francis Tyers · 22:59, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Animal treatment in rodeo

You don't know me but I'm 16 years old and writing the Animal treatment in rodeo article. One contributor who has given me something of a difficult time (yes, sometimes deserved) has suggested the article be deleted. It was the final blow, and I sent the article to AfD. I'm crying now. I spent so much time and love on the article. I notice you are a member of the animal rights project. Could you take some time and glance at the article? What have I done wrong? Make your recommendation to keep, delete, or merge. The article will be swamped with the rodeo crowd who have opposed the article from day one. I had great trouble finding high grade reliable secondary source material for the Pro-Rodeo stand and the article is top heavy with the animal rights/animal welfare stand. Of course, it should be deleted -- it's unblanaced. I'm so confused. Thank you! Buttermilk1950 (talk) 06:42, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Subhon Yodgori

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Subhon Yodgori, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:

Nothing notable

All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Scott Mac (Doc) 23:48, 2 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Featured article review

I have nominated Macedonia (terminology) for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:03, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please take a look at the Tajiks in Xinjiang page?

Hi, I was wondering if you could take a look at the the Tajiks of Xinjiang page. There was a lengthy discussion about what to call the people in Xinjiang who speak the the Sariqoli and Wakhi languages and are called Tajiks in China and in virtually all Chinese languages references, including those written by Chinese Tajiks. There was an agreement to call the page "Tajiks in Xinjiang", but some individuals have repeatedly reverted all references to Tajiks to "Pamiris", a term that applies to Tajikistan but is not in use in Chinese literature. I'm open to a debate about this, but the page has been reverted several times by an unregistered user (116.58.100.78). This includes the deletion of references, in particular Chinese language references and any reference that refers to these people as Tajiks. Thanks. David Straub (talk) 17:11, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GA Reassessment of Mythical origins of language

I have done a GA Reassessment of the Mythical origins of language article as part of the GA Sweeps project. I have found it does not meet the GA Criteria. As such I have put the article on hold pending work that needs to be done. My review is here. I am notifying you as the primary editor that this article may be delisted if it is not brought up to GA standards. If you have questions please contact me on my talk page. H1nkles (talk) 16:52, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GA Reassessment of Leprechaun

Hello. As a major contributor to this article, I thought you would want to know that it has been placed on hold as a result of its GA Sweeps Review, which can be found here. –Whitehorse1 18:59, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New Doctor Steel Page AfD

Hi. You weighed in on the Doctor Steel AfD debate back in February 2007. Thought you might like to know that there is a new one up for review, in case you wish to comment again. I have contacted as many as I could who weighed in on the last one, both for and against, in an effort to be fair. --Jonnybgoode44 (talk) 06:42, 9 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GAR: Mythical origins of language

Hi. I have concerns about the above article, and intend to start another GAR. I saw you got some improvment done in the sourcing for the GAR in June. I think other areas now need a significant amount of work - if you have any comments, agreeing, or thinking i am being too strict, or see more areas needing work, your input would be welcome. Thanks!

GAR started here:Talk:Mythical origins of language/GA2 YobMod 14:16, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Input

As a qualified linguist interested in Slavic languages, could you please give your input to this discussion. Many thanks. --124.169.205.21 (talk) 17:22, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Resistance is futile

An editor has nominated one or more articles which you have created or worked on, for deletion. The nominated article is Resistance is futile. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also Wikipedia:Notability and "What Wikipedia is not").

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Unreferenced BLPs

Hello Francis Tyers! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 14 of the articles that you created are tagged as Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons. Please note that all biographies of living persons must be sourced. If you were to add reliable, secondary sources to these articles, it would greatly help us with the current 6 article backlog. Once the articles are adequately referenced, please remove the {{unreferencedBLP}} tag. Here is the list:

Shodi Shabdolov - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
Rahmatullo Zoirov - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
Mirhusein Narziyev - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
Mahmadruzi Iskandarov - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
Sultan Quvvatov - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
Abdurahmon Karimov - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
Akbar Mirzoyev - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
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Jamshed Karimov - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

More...
11. Yahyo Azimov 12. Abdurrahim Hojibayev 13. Sherali Musoev 14. Aryon Rodrigues

Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 23:34, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dimitrije Tucović

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dimitrije_Tucovi%C4%87&action=history

One user continually deleting Tucović's qoute that you have been contributed to Dimitrije Tucović article. I thought it'll be good to let you know, if you are still active. Best regards! --Mladifilozof (talk) 22:45, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Image request

Hi Francis, I saw your name on the list of photographers in Wales. I'm currently writing an article about Sally Amis, sister of the writer, Martin Amis, both of whom were born in Uplands, Swansea. I'm hoping that someone who lives in the area would be willing to take a photograph of the house Sally was born in. It is 24 The Grove, Uplands, Swansea. I realize you may not be near there, but in case you are ever there for other reasons (shopping or whatever), I was wondering if you could bear this request in mind. SlimVirgin ^{TALK contribs} 21:49, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Request

Hi, could you have a look at Shusha, as the edit war has resumed? Thanks in advance Brand[t] 11:40, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Feria del Sol (Mérida)

Hola a ti, te escribo en español porque mi ingles es un poco piadoso...te escribo si por favor puede mejorar ese articulo en ingles sobre la base española, esta todo perfecto, falta solo que me sacas el template si tu lo puede sacar y si por favor me puede corregir los errores gramaticales, por el cambio te puedo ayudar con una traduccion en italiano y muchos de sus dialectos, en un articulo de tu interes...gracias en adelante para la ayuda que me daras^____^ saludos desde Campora San Giovanni y tambien moralmente desde Mérida, Venezuela--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 05:47, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

.....gracias...naturalmente lo traduco...pero dime si se puede sacar el template

y

del articulo...en la noche traduco en siciliano el articulo♥ gracias pa todo--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 12:29, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Theoretical Linguistics

Hello, I am trying to bring WP:WikiProject Theoretical Linguistics back to semi-active status. Toward that end, I have moved all members who have not posted to the project page in the past six months to a section, "Inactive members." If you wish to be active in the project, I hope you will move your name back to the section, "Members." You may also remove your name if you are no longer interested in the project. Thanks, and happy editing, Cnilep (talk) 17:31, 19 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

scn:Apertium

Done....perdoname si no lo hice en tiempo pero soy sido ocupado con la Feria del Sol....cuando puedes, me puedes arreglar lo de Our Lady of Coromoto?...gracias de corazon--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 06:32, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, would you be so kind as to give us support!

Hello, I hope you're doing fine and I sincerely apologize for this intrusion. My name is Claudi Balaguer (User Capsot from the Catalan Wikipedia and the Occitan Wikiccionari), I saw you worked on the Icelandic Wiktionary and then looked for you here and saw your profile. It seems that you show a keen interest in diverse cultures and languages, so you understand very well what are a minorized language and culture and maybe I am not bothering you and you will help us... I'm a member of a Catalan association "Amical de la Viquipèdia" which is trying to get some recognition as a Catalan Chapter but this hasn't been approved up to that moment because Catalan has not a/one state. We would appreciate your support, visible if you stick this template on your first page Wikimedia CAT and/or sign following the link on the template. Supporting us will be like giving equal opportunity to minorized languages and cultures in the future! You can have more information on my userpage. Thanks again, I wish you a nice, pleasant and warm summer, take care! If you ever need something about Occitan or Catalan just let me know I'll be real glad to help! Capsot (talk) 08:27, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Moltes gràcies, si necessites alguna ajuda respecte al català o només parlar de llengües o lingüística i practicar català, ja ho saps pots escriure'm quan vols (ratapenada@yahoo.com). Si no et suposa cap problema, també pots signar seguint el vincle de la plantilla, cosa que ens permet de visualitzar millor el suport (de fet és culpa meua, potser hauré de modificar la traducció anglesa...). Que et vaja tot bé i fins aviat! Capsot (talk) 22:22, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Kurdistan Air for deletion

A discussion has begun about whether the article Kurdistan Air, which you created or to which you contributed, should be deleted. While contributions are welcome, an article may be deleted if it is inconsistent with Wikipedia policies and guidelines for inclusion, explained in the deletion policy.

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Spaceflight portals

Hello! As an member editor of one or more of the Spaceflight, Human spaceflight, Unmanned spaceflight, Timeline of spaceflight or Space colonisation WikiProjects, I'd like to draw to your attention a proposal I have made with regards to the future of the spaceflight-related portals, which can be found at Portal talk:Spaceflight#Portal merge. I'd very much appreciate any suggestions or feedback you'd be able to offer! Many thanks,

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WikiProject Space Colonization activity

Hello there! As part of an experiment to determine how many active editors are present in the spaceflight-related WikiProjects, some changes have been made to the list of members of WikiProject Space Colonization. If you still consider yourself to be an active editor in this project, we would be grateful if you would please edit the list so that your name is not struck out - thus a clearer idea of the critical mass of editors can be determined. Many thanks in advance.

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WikiProject Spaceflight activity

Hello there! As part of an effort to determine how many active editors are present in the spaceflight-related WikiProjects, changes have been made to the list of members of WikiProject Spaceflight. If you still consider yourself to be an active editor in this project, it would be appreciated if you would please edit the list so that your name is not struck out - thus a clearer idea of the number of active editors can be determined. Many thanks in advance!

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Proposed deletion of Khujand Branch of the Technical University of Tajikistan

The article Khujand Branch of the Technical University of Tajikistan has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Unreferenced minor part of Technical University of Tajikistan, no incoming links, Fails WP:V and WP:N

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WikiProject Spaceflight reboot

Hello there! As you may or may not be aware, a recent discussion on the future of the Space-related WikiProjects has concluded, leading to the abolition of WP:SPACE and leading to a major reorganisation of WP:SPACEFLIGHT. It would be much appreciated if you would like to participate in the various ongoing discussions at the reorganisation page and the WikiProject Spaceflight talk page. If you are a member of one of WP:SPACEFLIGHT's child projects but not WP:SPACEFLIGHT itself, it would also be very useful if you could please add your name to the member list here. Many thanks!

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The Downlink: Issue 0

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Issue 0, December 2010

Welcome to The Downlink · Reorganisation of Space WikiProjects · User Activity Checks
Welcome to The Downlink
Welcome to The Downlink, a new monthly newsletter intended to inform members of WikiProject Spaceflight about the latest developments in the project and its articles. Future issues will contain information on issues under discussion, newly featured content, and articles written by members of the project to appear in the newsletter. All members of WikiProject Spaceflight are invited to contribute any content that they would like to see in the newsletter. If you were not aware of being a member of WikiProject Spaceflight, membership of the former Human spaceflight, Unmanned spaceflight, Timeline of spaceflight and Space colonization WikiProjects was merged into WikiProject spaceflight during the reorganisation of the spaceflight projects, for more details, please see below.
Reorganisation of Space WikiProjects
The ongoing discussion of the future of Space WikiProjects has been making progress. WikiProject Space was abolished on 5 December 2010, with the Spaceflight, Astronomy and Solar System projects becoming independent of each other. On the same day, an assessment banner, {{WikiProject Spaceflight}} was created for WikiProject Spaceflight to replace the generic space one which had been used previously. On 9 December, WikiProject Space Colonization was abolished, with its tasks being subsumed into WikiProject Spaceflight. On 12 December, the Human spaceflight and Unmanned spaceflight WikiProjects became task forces of WikiProject Spaceflight, whilst WikiProject Timeline of spaceflight became a working group. A number of issues are still under discussion: Introducing better defined assessment criteria and an A-class review process Setting clearer importance criteria for assessing articles Establishing a joint task force with the Astronomy and Solar System projects to cover space telescopes and planetary probes Defining the roles of projects, taskforces and working groups, and processes for establishing new ones Improving the profile and activity of the project Much of the current discussion is taking place on the WikiProject Spaceflight talk page, however there is still some discussion on the original proposal page.
User Activity Checks
A series of checks are underway to establish the numbers of users who are still active within WikiProject Spaceflight, its task forces and working group. All usernames on the members lists were struck out, and members were asked to unstrike their own names if they were still an active member of the project. If you wish to do so, and have not already, please unstrike your name from the master list, plus the lists on any applicable task forces or working groups
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The Downlink: Issue 1

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Issue 1, January 2011

Welcome to The Downlink · Project News · News from Orbit · Article News · Space Stations and the Push for Featured Topics · Salyut 2

Welcome to The Downlink

Welcome to the first full issue of The Downlink, a new monthly newsletter intended to inform members of WikiProject Spaceflight about the latest developments in the project and its articles. Below you will find information about happenings within the project, our recognised content, spaceflight in the news and events needing to be covered in articles. You will also find an editorial about the first concerted effort to develop featured topics related to spaceflight, and an article in need of your help and improvements.

Project News will provide details of discussions about and changes in the organisation and structure of the project, newly recognised content, and changes in membership. News from Orbit will summarise spaceflight news and upcoming events, and list suggestions for articles in need of updating as a result. Article News will give details of requests for assistance within articles, and discussions regarding content.

All members of WikiProject Spaceflight are invited to contribute any content that they would like to see in the newsletter, and we would particularly welcome the submission of editorials, or an article about an area of spaceflight which you are working on, or particularly interested in. Please see The Downlink page for more details.

Project News

A new working group has been formed. The space stations working group is expected to work towards creating Featured topics related to space stations. It currently has three members.

Discussion within the project is still dominated by the reorganisation proposals. A discussion over the formation and roles of working groups and task forces has led to some clarification regarding working groups, however the roles of the task forces remain vague, and several proposals to abolish them have surfaced. The Human Spaceflight to-do list has been merged into the main project to-do list, with the combined list currently located on the Tasks page of the Spaceflight portal.

A discussion regarding opening relations with the Aerospace biography task force of Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation was held, but no conclusions were reached. The Article Alerts bot has resumed operation, and a problem with the information the bot had been delivering was discussed and resolved.

New assessment criteria for importance and quality have been implemented, and refinements continue to be made to the importance scale. The scope of the project was redefined to exclude astronomical objects explicitly. Although A-class criteria have been defined, a review process is yet to be discussed or implemented.

Colds7ream conducted an analysis of open tasks related to the reorganisation which four major issues remain unresolved: Discussion concerning the existence and roles of task forces within the project; recruitment of new editors; updating guidelines and whether the project or the task forces should be responsible for maintaining them; and the continued existence of the Human spaceflight portal six weeks after consensus was reached to abolish it.

Discussion about the structure of the project is ongoing, with several proposals currently on the table. One proposal calls for the abolition of task forces in favour of increased emphasis on working groups, whilst another calls for the task forces to become a list of topics. The idea of a formal collaboration system has been suggested, however opposition has been raised.

One of the main open tasks at the moment is replacing the older {{WikiProject Space}} and {{WikiProject Human spaceflight}} banners with the new {{WikiProject Spaceflight}} banner. Articles which need to be retagged are currently listed in Category:WikiProject Spaceflight articles using deprecated project tags. ChiZeroOne is doing a very good job replacing them, but as of the morning of 31 December, there are still 1,424 left to be converted. Additionally, the implementation of a new B-class checklist built into the template has necessitated the reassessment of former B-class articles, which the template has automatically classified as C-class.

News from Orbit

On 3 December, USA-212, the first X-37B, landed at Vandenberg Air Force Base after a successful mission. On 5 December Proton-M with a Blok DM-03 upper stage failed to place three Glonass-M satellites into orbit, the first of three failures in less than forty eight hours. The NanoSail-D2 spacecraft was supposed to have been ejected from FASTSAT in the early hours of the next morning, however it does not appear to have separated. Finally the Akatsuki spacecraft failed to enter orbit around Venus in the evening of 6 December. The Proton launch was the maiden flight of the Blok DM-03, which does not currently have an article.

On 8 December the Dragon C1 demonstration mission was conducted, with the SpaceX Dragon making a little under two orbits of the Earth on its maiden flight, before landing in the Pacific Ocean to complete a successful mission. The Falcon 9 rocket which launched the Dragon spacecraft also deployed eight CubeSats: SMDC-ONE 1, QbX-1, QbX-2, Perseus 000, Perseus 001, Perseus 002, Perseus 003 and Mayflower. The CubeSats do not currently have articles.

On 15 December, a Soyuz-FG launched Soyuz TMA-20 to the International Space Station, carrying three members of the Expedition 26 crew. It docked two days later. The Soyuz TMA-20 article is currently short, and could use improvements to bring it up to the same level as articles for US manned spaceflights. On 17 December, a Long March 3A launched Compass-IGSO2. There is currently no article for this satellite.

17 December saw Intelsat regain control of the Galaxy 15 satellite, which had been out of control since a malfunction in April. The Galaxy 15 article is in need of serious cleanup and a good copyedit. On 25 December a GSLV Mk.I failed to place GSAT-5P into orbit. A Proton-M with a Briz-M upper stage successfully launched KA-SAT on 26 December. Barring any suborbital launches at the end of the month which have not yet been announced (a NASA Black Brant was scheduled for December but does not appear to have flown), 2010 in spaceflight concluded on 29 December when an Ariane 5ECA launched the Hispasat-1E and Koreasat 6 spacecraft. These do not currently have articles.

Four launches are currently scheduled to occur in January 2011. A Delta IV Heavy is expected to launch NRO L-49 on 17 January. The satellite is expected to be an Improved Crystal electro-optical imaging spacecraft. Two launches are planned for 20 January, with Kounotori 2, the second H-II Transfer Vehicle, being launched by an H-IIB, and the Zenit-3F making its maiden flight to deploy Elektro-L No.1, the first Russian geostationary weather satellite to be launched since 1994. On 28 January Progress M-09M will be launched by a Soyuz-U. 28 January will also be the twenty-fifth anniversary of the loss of the Space Shuttle Challenger on mission STS-51-L.

Article News

It was requested that the article Walter Haeussermann be expanded. Haeussermann, a member of the von Braun rocket group, died on 8 December. Although the article has been updated following his death, a user requested that more information about the engineer be added. Another user requested that the articles Commercial Space Launch Act and Launch Services Purchase Act be created, to cover laws of the United States concerning spaceflight.

Articles related to methods of taking-off and landing were discussed. The term VTVL currently has an article whilst VTHL and HTHL do not. It was suggested that the existing article should be merged, and each term be covered by the article for the equivalent aviation term, however some distinction between use in the fields of aviation and spaceflight should remain.

Concern was raised that a large scale deletion request could cause many images to be lost from articles, help was requested to investigate whether any of the images were not subject to copyright, or if they were then whether they could be uploaded to the English Wikipedia under a claim of fair use.

Concerns were raised about a large amount of content in the newly-created article deorbit of Mir duplicating existing content in existing Good Article Progress M1-5. A proposal to merge deorbit of Mir into Progress M1-5 was made, however objections were raised, and discussion has since stalled without reaching a consensus. It has also been requested that the article Mir be copyedited.

The existence of separate categories for "spaceflight" and "space exploration" has been questioned, with a suggestion that some of the exploration categories, including Category:Space exploration iteslf, should be merged into their spaceflight counterparts.

Missile Range Instrumentation Ship is currently listed at requested moves, with a proposal to rename it tracking ship. The only open good article nomination is of the book Mission: Earth, Voyage to the Home Planet, which is currently awaiting review.

Editorial – Space Stations and the Push for Featured Topics

There has recently been much talk about trying to increase the activity of the project. To this end, a major reorganisation effort has been undertaken, which has seen the space WikiProjects separated into the Astronomy, Solar System and Spaceflight groups, with WikiProject Space being abolished. We have also seen the child projects of WikiProject Spaceflight being abolished, with Timeline of Spaceflight becoming a working group, and the Unmanned and Human Spaceflight projects becoming task forces for now, with some suggestions that they should be abolished outright. The problem with the previous structure was that there were too many different groups of editors, and nobody was sure which projects were supposed to be doing what. Now there is only one project, this is somewhat clearer, but spaceflight is still a huge topic.

Another way to improve the activity of the project is to attract more editors. Spaceflight is a topic which many people have at least a very casual interest in, and therefore it is strange that there are only about four or five people regularly participating in discussions on the project talk page. Evidently action is needed to raise the profile of the project.

One way in which the project's profile can be raised is to have a major success associated with it. The creation of a featured topic could be one such success, and would also be hugely beneficial to articles in the area that it relates to. Space Stations are one of the most high-profile and notable areas of spaceflight, and are therefore a logical choice to spearhead such an initiative.

To this end, in late December a working group was established to concentrate and coordinate efforts to establish featured topics related to space stations. An initial proposal calls for topics on Skylab, Salyut, Mir and the International Space Station, as well as one on space stations in general. There is currently an effort to get Mir promoted to Good Article status; the article currently requires a copyedit, after which it will be sent for peer review and then to GAN.

This is by no means a short-term project. There are many articles, particularly for the larger space stations such as the ISS and Mir, which are currently nowhere near becoming recognised content. Skylab is the smallest of the proposed featured topics, but it still requires that three C-class articles, two Start-class articles and a redirect all reach at least Good Article status, with at least three becoming Featured Articles. The ISS topic is so large that it may have to be subdivided.

I don't expect that we will have any featured topics by the end of the year, but I believe that a Good Topic, which requires all articles reach at least GA status, but does not require any featured articles, may be possible. I also believe that several articles on the subject can easily be improved to Good Article status, and some articles may be at featured level by the end of the year. In the long term, having featured topics will benefit the project and its content.

Selected Article – Salyut 2

Salyut 2 was an early space station, launched in 1973 as part of the Salyut and Almaz programmes. It malfunctioned two days after launch, and consequently was never visited by a manned Soyuz mission.

The Salyut 2 article describes the station:

“

Salyut 2 (OPS-1)(Russian: Салют-2; English: Salute 2) was launched April 4, 1973. It was not really a part of the same program as the other Salyut space stations, instead being the highly classified prototype military space station Almaz. It was given the designation Salyut 2 to conceal its true nature. Despite its successful launch, within two days the as-yet-unmanned Salyut 2 began losing pressure and its flight control failed; the cause of the failure was likely due to shrapnel piercing the station when the discarded Proton rocket upper stage that had placed it in orbit later exploded nearby. On April 11, 1973, 11 days after launch, an unexplainable accident caused the two large solar panels to be torn loose from the space station cutting off all power to the space station. Salyut 2 re-entered on May 28, 1973.

”

The article is currently assessed as start class, and is in need of attention. It consists of the above paragraph, along with a list of specifications and an infobox. The article needs to be rewritten in a more encyclopaedic style, and with more information about the space station. It has not yet been determined whether Salyut 2 would have to be included in a featured topic about the Salyut programme, or whether since it was never manned it is less integral to the topic, however if its inclusion were necessary then in its current form it would be a major impediment to this. Downlink readers are encouraged to improve this article, with a view to getting it to B-class and possibly a viable Good Article candidate by the end of the month.

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AfD

I just nominated Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grecomans. -Jaque Hammer (talk) 02:10, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:Controversial language

Template:Controversial language has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Mhiji 17:17, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Downlink: Issue 2

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Issue 2, February 2011

Project News · News from Orbit · Article News · The Charts · Yuri Gagarin

Project News

A report on popular pages from December 2010 revealed surprising trends in readers' interests. Boeing X-37 was the most popular article within the project's scope, with SpaceX Dragon in second with Global Positioning System in third place. The top seven articles were all assessed as C-class, with the remainder of the top ten being Good Articles. It was noted with some concern that moon landing conspiracy theories was more popular than moon landing.

A discussion regarding whether missiles warranted inclusion within the project scope was conducted, and resulted in the continued inclusion of missiles.

The last remaining articles tagged with the banner of the former Human Spaceflight WikiProject were re-tagged with the WikiProject Spaceflight banner. The last banner was removed on 8 January, and the template has since been deleted. The project is thankful to ChiZeroOne for his work in this field.

Concerns were raised that the new article reporting system was not working correctly, however it was noted that there is sometimes a delay before articles appear on the list.

Discussion regarding the existence of the separate spaceflight and space exploration category structures led to a mass CfD being filed on 10 January to abolish the space exploration categories, merging them into their counterparts in the spaceflight category structure. This was successful, and the exploration categories have been removed. Several other categorisation issues remain unresolved.

A proposal was made to standardise some of the infoboxes used by the project, the future of Template:Infobox spacecraft (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) was discussed, and design work began on a replacement. Template:Rocket specifications-all (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) was nominated for deletion and subsequently kept due to extant substitutions, however it was noted that the template had been deprecated by WikiProject Rocketry. Concerns were also raised that the existing infoboxes were not well-equipped to handle spacecraft which operated in more than one orbit, or whose orbits changed over the course of their missions (which in practise is most of them).

Five members of the project gave interviews for the Wikipedia Signpost, and a report on the project, authored by SMasters (talk · contribs), is expected to be published in the 7 February edition of the Signpost. It is hoped that this will raise interest in and awareness of the project.

News from orbit

Four orbital launches were conducted in January, beginning on 20 January with the launch of Elektro-L No.1 on the first Zenit-3F rocket. This was followed later the same day by the launch of a Delta IV Heavy with the USA-224 reconnaissance satellite. The articles for USA-224 and the Zenit-3F rocket could use some expansion, whilst the Elektro-L No.1 satellite needs its own article.

On 22 January, an H-IIB launched the second H-II Transfer Vehicle, Kounotori 2, to resupply the International Space Station. It arrived at the station on 27 January. Less than a day after its arrival, another cargo mission was launched to the station; Progress M-09M departed Baikonur early in the morning of 28 January, docking on 30 January. In addition to payloads to resupply the station, the Progress spacecraft is carrying a small subsatellite, Kedr, which will be deployed in February. Kedr does not currently have an article. Progress M-08M departed on 24 January to make the Pirs module available for Progress M-09M, and has since reentered the atmosphere. Its article needs to be updated to reflect the successful completion of its mission.

The NanoSail-D2 satellite, which failed to deploy from FASTSAT in December, unexpectedly separated from its parent craft and began operations on 18 January, with its solar sail deploying on 21 January.

Nine orbital launches are scheduled to occur in February, beginning with the launch of the first Geo-IK-2 satellite; Geo-IK-2 No.11, atop a Rokot/Briz-KM, on the first day of the month. Articles need to be written for the Geo-IK-2 series of satellites, as well as for Geo-IK-2 No.11 itself, and the Briz-KM upper stage that will be used to insert it into orbit.

A Minotaur I rocket will launch NRO L-66, a classified payload for the US National Reconnaissance Office, on 5 February. The payload has not yet been identified, however once more details are known, it will need an article. Iran is expected to launch the Rasad 1 and Fajr 1 satellites in February, with 14 February the reported launch date. The satellites will fly aboard a single rocket; either the first Simorgh or the third Safir. Once this launch occurs, the satellites will need articles, and the article on their carrier rocket will require updating.

The second Automated Transfer Vehicle, Johannes Kepler, is scheduled to launch on 15 February to resupply the ISS. Docking is expected to occur on 23 February. 23 February will also see the much-delayed launch of Glory atop a Taurus-XL 3110 rocket. This will be the first Taurus launch since the launch failure in early 2009 which resulted in the loss of the Orbiting Carbon Observatory. In addition to Glory, three CubeSats will be deployed; KySat-1, Hermes and Explorer-1 [PRIME]. KySat and Hermes require articles, whilst the article on Explorer-1 [PRIME] needs to be updated.

On 24 February, a Soyuz-2.1b/Fregat rocket will launch the first Glonass-K1 satellite; Glonass-K1 No.11. Articles are needed for the series of spacecraft, as well as for the specific satellite being launched. It is likely that a Kosmos designation will be given to the payload when it reaches orbit. In the evening of 24 February, Space Shuttle Discovery will begin its final mission, STS-133, carrying the Permanent Multipurpose Module, a conversion of the Leonardo MPLM, to the ISS. Other payloads include an ExPRESS Logistics Carrier, and the Robonaut2 experimental robot. The first manned mission of 2011, Discovery's six-man crew will transfer equipment to the station, and two EVAs will be performed. The launch has already been scrubbed five times, before Discovery was rolled back to the Vehicle Assembly Building to inspect and repair cracks on its External Tank.

At some point in February, a Long March 3B rocket is expected to launch two navigation satellites; Compass-M2 and Compass-M3, as part of the Compass navigation system. The date of this launch is currently unknown. Both satellites will require articles once more information is available. A PSLV launch, carrying the Resourcesat-2, X-Sat and YouthSat spacecraft, is expected to launch from the Satish Dhawan Space Centre towards the end of the month, probably between 20 and 23 February.

Stop press: The Rokot launch was conducted at 14:00 UTC on 1 February, and at the time of writing it appears to have ended in failure, due to a suspected upper stage malfunction. The spacecraft is in orbit, it is not clear at the time of writing whether it will be salvageable.

Article news

Reaction Engines Skylon is currently undergoing peer review, its discussion page can be found at Wikipedia:Peer review/Reaction Engines Skylon/archive1. A user requested feedback on major changes which had been made to the article, however at the time of writing no responses have been offered.

Following up on the issues covered in the last issue, the requested move of Missile Range Instrumentation Ship to Tracking ship was successful, with the article being renamed. The discussion concerning types of launch and landing resulted in a proposal to merge VTVL into VTOL, however this has been met with some opposition. Several other options have been suggested on Talk:VTVL. The large scale deletion of mis-tagged Soviet images on Commons went ahead, with most of the useful ones having already been backed-up locally under fair use criteria.

Discussion was held regarding the naming of spaceflight-related articles. Concerns were raised regarding inconsistency in article titles and disambiguators. A project guideline was adopted to standardise titles, with the parenthesised disambiguators "(satellite)" and "(spacecraft)" being adopted as standards for spacecraft, and the exclusion of manufacturers' names from article titles was recommended. Issues regarding Japanese spacecraft with two names, the correct names for early Apollo missions, and dealing with acronyms and abbreviated names remain unresolved.

A large number of articles were moved to conform to the standard disambiguation pattern. In addition, several Requested Moves were debated. A proposal to move SpaceX Dragon to Dragon (spacecraft), which began prior to the adoption of the standardised disambiguators, was successful. Atmospheric reentry was subject to two requested moves, firstly one which would have seen it renamed spacecraft atmospheric reentry, which was unsuccessful, however a second proposal shortly afterwards saw it moved to atmospheric entry. A proposal currently under discussion could see Lunar rover (Apollo) renamed Lunar Roving Vehicle

Questions surrounding the transliteration of Russian names resurfaced, with a proposal to rename Vladimir Chelomey to Vladimir Chelomei being closed with no consensus, and a proposal to rename Yury Usachov to Yuri Usachev ongoing.

Several long-standing merger proposals were closed. A proposal to merge Venera 15 and Venera 16 into Venera 15 and 16 was closed as no consensus, with the combined page being moved to Venera 4V-2 to reduce the overlap in the articles' scopes. Returnable satellite was merged into Fanhui Shi Weixing.

Experimental Assembly of Structures in EVA and Assembly Concept for Construction of Erectable Space Structures was nominated for Good Article reassessment due to concerns over the article's quality. Doubts were also expressed over the thoroughness of the original review conducted upon its nomination for GA status. It was also suggested that the article's title may not be the most common name for the experiment, and that it might be necessary to move the page. Concerns were also raised regarding whether Space Interferometry Mission was up-to-date, however these are being addressed. Mission: Earth, Voyage to the Home Planet looks likely to be promoted to GA status.

Help was requested for adding citations to List of Mir spacewalks. A request was made that STS-88 be reviewed against the B class criteria, and suggestions for improvements made. Another user requested improvements to the article Yuri Gagarin, with a view to having the article promoted to featured status in time for the fiftieth anniversary of his Vostok 1 mission. As a result of this request, Yuri Gagarin is this month's selected article.

Questions were raised as to whether an article or category should be created to cover derelict satellites. The categorisation of spacecraft by the type of rocket used to place them into orbit was also suggested. In another categorisation issue, it was questioned whether Space law should fall under space or spaceflight.

Stop press: Mission: Earth, Voyage to the Home Planet has now been promoted to GA status.

The Charts

There is no editorial this month as no content was submitted for one. Instead, we present the "top ten" most popular articles within the project, based on the number of page views in January. Space Shuttle Challenger disaster was the most popular article of the last month, up fourteen places from 15^th in December. Space Shuttle Challenger was the highest climber in the top 40, up 42 places from 50^th. December's most popular article. Boeing X-37, dropped 57 places to 58^th. On a happier note further down the chart, moon landing is now ahead of moon landing conspiracy theories.

№	Article	Movement
1	Space Shuttle Challenger disaster	↑14 (15)
2	Richard Branson	↑5 (7)
3	Neil Armstrong	↑2 (5)
4	Space Shuttle Columbia disaster	↑16 (20)
5	Global Positioning System	↓2 (3)
6	Apollo 11	↑2 (8)
7	Satellite	↑4 (11)
8	Space Shuttle Challenger	↑42 (50)
9	Apollo 13	↓3 (6)
10	NASA	↓1 (9)

For the full list of the top 1,500 popular pages within the project, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Spaceflight/Popular pages (or the archived record for January).

Selected Article: Yuri Gagarin

Yuri Gagarin was the first man to fly in space, aboard Vostok 1 in April 1961. He was subsequently awarded the title Hero of the Soviet Union, and was training for a second flight at the time of his death in 1968.

His article describes him and his spaceflight experience:

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Yuri Alekseyevich Gagarin (Russian: Ю́рий Алексе́евич Гага́рин, Russian pronunciation: [ˈjurʲɪj ɐlʲɪˈksʲeɪvʲɪtɕ ɡɐˈɡarʲɪn]; 9 March 1934 – 27 March 1968), Hero of the Soviet Union, was a Soviet cosmonaut who on 12 April 1961 became the first human to journey into outer space.

On 12 April 1961, Gagarin became the first man to travel into space, launching to orbit aboard the Vostok 3KA-3 (Vostok 1). His call sign in this flight was Kedr (Cedar; Russian: Кедр). During his flight, Gagarin famously whistled the tune "The Motherland Hears, The Motherland Knows" (Russian: "Родина слышит, Родина знает"). The first two lines of the song are: "The Motherland hears, the Motherland knows/Where her son flies in the sky". This patriotic song was written by Dmitri Shostakovich in 1951 (opus 86), with words by Yevgeniy Dolmatovsky.

”

The article is currently assessed as C class, and had been assessed as B class prior to the criteria being redefined. Although a full reassessment has not yet been made, it seems close to the B class criteria, however details on his spaceflight experiences are somewhat lacking. It has been requested that the article be developed to Featured status by April, in time for the fiftieth anniversary of his mission.

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Google Translation

Hi there Francis. I am trying to make best use of Google translation. But its failings - dramatic or hilarious - are often quite radial. I tried simplifying the source language; working with 3 languages to locate glitches, etc. Obviously, if the source language is foreign to me, then I am stuck, but even so, the same source text often provides the gobbledygook across several target languages. When I make contributions to better translations, they seem futile as the same mistakes simply come back. Do you have any suggestion or even any more reliable free translation sites you can direct me to? Thanks. Politis (talk) 13:05, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that makes sense. I usually go Macedonian (occasionally German) into English. For Macedonian I have such little knowledge that I need to guess. Of course, if I do English into Macedonian I am liable to get some belly laughs from my correspondents. I also do English into Greek or French where I can usually tell if anything is amiss. I assume that Macedonian into Greek or French goes through English. Politis (talk) 23:30, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good luck with your research. The challenge is that so many words shift meaning according to context. Also the tenses from English->other languages go all over the place. I think the market might be opening up for Chinese. I also found that google translate is better than Babel Fish. Politis (talk) 16:44, 16 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Western Sahara (Revisited) on Talk page of 2010–2011 Middle East and North Africa protests

Please, take a look at the talk page of the article 2010–2011 Middle East and North Africa protests in the section "Western Sahara (Revisited)", leave your opinion & vote. Regards.--HCPUNXKID (talk) 19:21, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Downlink: Issue 3

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Issue 3, March 2011

Project News
News from Orbit
Article News
Direction of the Project
The Charts
Europa

Project News

There have been very few discussions relating to the administration of the project in the last month, as things start to settle down after the merger.

An invitation template has been created in an effort to attract new users to the project. Discussion was also held regarding the creation of a list of common templates, however no conclusions were reached. A proposal was made to implement an A-class assessment process, however editors are undecided about whether it would be best to copy the system used by another project such as WP:MILHIST, or to develop one specifically for the requirements of this project.

User:ChiZeroOne has set up a collaboration page in his userspace, initially focussing on articles related to Skylab. Collaboration pages were at one point proposed as part of the structure of the Spaceflight project itself, however no consensus was achieved on the issue. If this collaboration is successful, it could open the door to a reevaluation of that situation.

News from orbit

Five orbital launches were conducted in February, out of nine planned. The first, that of the Geo-IK-2 No.11 satellite atop a Rokot/Briz-KM ended in failure after the upper stage malfunctioned. The Rokot has since been grounded pending a full investigation; the satellite is in orbit, but has been determined to be unusable for its intended mission. A replacement is expected to launch within the year. A general article on Geo-IK-2 satellites is needed, to supplement those on the individual satellites.

A Minotaur I rocket launched USA-225, or NROL-66, on 6 February following a one-day delay. The second Automated Transfer Vehicle, Johannes Kepler, was successfully launched on 16 February to resupply the ISS. Docking occurred successfully on 24 February, several hours before Space Shuttle Discovery launched on its final flight, STS-133. Discovery docked with the ISS on 26 February, delivering the Leonardo module and an ExPRESS Logistics Carrier to the station. Following several delays, a Soyuz-2.1b/Fregat rocket launched the first Glonass-K1 satellite; Glonass-K1 No.11, on 26 February. It is currently unclear as to whether the satellite has received a Kosmos designation or not.

Seven launches are expected to occur in March. On 4 March, the Glory satellite will launch atop a Taurus-XL 3110 rocket. Three CubeSats will be also be deployed by the Taurus; KySat-1, Hermes and Explorer-1 [Prime]. KySat and Hermes require articles, whilst the article on Explorer-1 [PRIME] needs to be updated. This launch was originally scheduled for February, but following a scrubbed launch attempt, it was delayed.

4 March will also see the launch of the first flight of the second X-37B, atop an Atlas V 501. An article is needed for that flight, which will probably receive a USA designation once it reaches orbit. On 8 March, Discovery is expected to land, bringing to an end the STS-133 mission, and retiring from service 27 years after its maiden flight. On 11 March, a Delta IV Medium+(4,2) will launch the NROL-27 payload. Whilst the identity of this payload is classified, it is widely believed to be a Satellite Data System communications satellite, bound for either a molniya or geostationary orbit. An article for this payload is required. 16 March will see the return to Earth of Soyuz TMA-01M, carrying three members of the ISS Expedition 26 crew.

A Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle is expected to deploy the Resourcesat-2, X-Sat and YouthSat spacecraft during a launch in March. The flight has been delayed several times, and was expected to have launched last month, however it is currently scheduled to occur no earlier than 20 March. On 29 March, an Ariane 5ECA will launch the Yahsat 1A and New Dawn communications satellites. Both currently require articles. On 30 March, a Soyuz-FG will launch the manned Soyuz TMA-21 mission to the International Space Station carrying three Expedition 27 crewmembers.

On 31 March, a Proton-M/Briz-M launch will carry the SES-3 and Kazsat-2 spacecraft into orbit, in the first dual-launch of commercial communications satellites on a Proton. Several other launches may occur in March, however their status is unclear. Last month, a Long March 3B rocket was expected to launch two navigation satellites; Compass-M2 and Compass-M3, however this launch did not take place. It is unclear if it has been delayed to March, or further. The launch of the Tianlian 2 communications satellite on a Long March 3C may also be conducted in March, or possibly April. Both the Compass and Tianlian launches would occur from the same launch pad, which requires a turnaround of almost a month between launches, so it is unlikely that both will happen in March. A Safir launch, which had been expected in February, now appears to have been delayed to April, but given the secrecy of the Iranian space programme, this is unclear.

Article news

Discussion regarding the merger of articles on launch and landing modes seems to have stagnated, with no consensus being reached on any existing proposal. A discussion regarding changes in the sizes of Soviet and American rockets during the 1950s and early 1960s was conducted, with claims that rockets became smaller in that period being dismissed, however it was noted that smaller rockets were developed with equivalent capacity to older ones were developed, as well as much larger ones with increased capacities.

Category:Derelict satellites orbiting Earth was created as a result of discussion surrounding the categorisation of derelict satellites. Concerns have also been raised that satellites are being listed as no longer being in orbit whilst still in orbit and derelict, and a discussion was held on how their status could be verified. An effort to categorise spacecraft by the type of rocket used to launch them is underway, however the categorisation of satellites by country of launch was rejected.

It was reported that a sidebar has been created for articles related to the core concepts of spaceflight. Editors noted that it should only be used for core concepts, and not where it would conflict with an infobox. An anonymous user requested the creation of an article on moon trees. It was pointed out that the subject already had an article, and a redirect was created at the title proposed by the anonymous user.

Concerns were raised regarding the quality of the article Japan's space development. Editors noted that the article appeared to be a poorly-translated copy of an article from the Japanese Wikipedia, although there have been some signs of improvement. Discussion regarding moving the article to Japanese space program is ongoing, however a move request has not yet been filed.

A particular concern was raised regarding false claims in the article Van Allen radiation belt. In one case a scientist to whom one of the claims had been attributed was contacted, and clarified that he had made a remark to that effect as a joke in the 1960s, but was not entirely sure how or why it had been included in the article. Other concerns were raised before the discussion moved to WikiProject Astronomy.

A question was raised regarding the copyright status of images credited to both NASA and ESA, particularly with regard to images of the launch of the Johannes Kepler ATV. The discussion reached no general conclusions, however it was found that the specific images that were suggested for inclusion in the article could be used, since they were explicitly declared to be in the public domain.

A template, Template:Spaceflight landmarks (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), was created to cover landmarks in the United States that are related to spaceflight. Several sources of public-domain NASA images were also discussed, and it was noted that almost all NASA images are public domain, however there are some exceptions.

It has been proposed that Leonardo MPLM be merged with Permanent Multipurpose Module since the two cover separate uses of the same spacecraft. A review of the article STS-88 has also been requested.

Three new Good Articles have been listed: Mission: Earth, Voyage to the Home Planet, Bold Orion and SA-500D. Orion (spacecraft) was delisted after concerns that it contained out-of-date content. SA-500D is currently undergoing good article reassessment, using the community reassessment method, after the review of its good article nomination was criticised for being lenient and not sufficiently thorough. Mir, Mark E. Kelly and Reaction Engines Skylon have been nominated for Good Article status and are awaiting review, whilst List of Mir spacewalks is undergoing a peer review with a view to it becoming a featured list.

Editorial: Direction of the Project

Well folks, its now been more than three months since the discussion that reformed the space-related WikiProjects, and in that time we've had a number of achievements we can be rightly proud of; we've gathered members up to a total of 43, improved awareness of the project via an interview in the Signpost, and refreshed the spaceflight portal into an attractive, up-to-date and useful page. Meanwhile, User:ChiZeroOne has made a sterling effort in clearing up talk page templates belonging to prior projects, we've managed to sort out various policies, started work on rearranging our templates, and User:GW Simulations has begun this excellent monthly newsletter for us. However, there are a few areas of the project that seem to be passing by the wayside, specifically the areas dedicated to fostering collaboration on articles and article sets between the project members, so here I present a call for more collaboration on the project.

Presumably, the lack of collaboration is due to folks not being aware of what's going on, so here's a quick rundown of some of the ways you get involved in the group effort. Firstly, and most importantly, it'd be fantastic if more members got involved in the discussions ongoing at the project's main talk page, found at WT:SPACEFLIGHT. There are several discussions ongoing there, such as the relaunch of the spacecraft template, requests for assistance with various assessment and copyright queries, and conversations regarding category organisations, which affect many more articles, and thus editors, than are currently represented in the signatures so far.

Secondly, it was established earlier on in the project's formation that a great way to attract more editors would be to develop some good or featured topics. There are a couple of efforts ongoing to try to see this idea to fruition, such as the Space stations working group and ChiZeroOne's own collaboration page, currently focussed on Skylab-related articles. These pages, however, have been notably lacking in activity lately, which is a shame, as their aims, given enough editor input, would really see the project furthering itself. Similarly, there are a number of requests for assessment for articles to be promoted to GA class, among other things, on the Open tasks page, which lists all of the activities needing input from members. If everyone could add this page to their watchlists and swing by it regularly, we could power through the good topics in extremely short order! Other things that could do with being added to people's watchlists include Portal:Spaceflight/Next launch‎, the many templates at Template:Launching/Wrappers and the task list at Portal:Spaceflight/Tasks.

Finally, I'd like to try and get people involved in finally settling the organisational problem we have with reference to the task forces and working groups. Whilst the Timeline of spaceflight working group is a continuation of the old Timeline of spaceflight WikiProject and thus is ticking over nicely and the space stations working group has been mentioned previously in this editorial, the task forces (Human spaceflight and Unmanned spaceflight) in particular are currently dead in the water. I'm unsure as to whether or not this is because people are unaware of their existence, they clash too much with one another and the rest of the project or because people don't see a need for them, but if interested parties could make themselves known and others voice suggestions for getting rid of them, we can decide either if they're worth keeping and get them running again, or do away with a layer of bureaucracy and close them down. Any thoughts on the matter would be much appreciated.

In summary, then, we've got a great project going here, with a nice set of articles, a good editor base and lots of ways of getting involved. Thus, a plea goes out to everyone to get involved, get editing with the other project members, and hopefully we'll see ourselves take off in a manner not dissimilar to the trajectory dear old Discovery took last week. Many thanks for everyone's hard work so far, and poyekhali! :-)

The Charts

Since it is useful to keep track of the most viewed pages within the project's scope, it seems like a good idea to continue this feature, which was originally included in last month's issue as a one-off.

Satellite was the most popular article of February, up six places from seventh in December. STS-133 was the highest climber in the top 10, up 78 places from 88^th. January's most popular article, Space Shuttle Challenger disaster, dropped seven places to eighth. Moon landing remains ahead of moon landing conspiracy theories for the second month in a row.

Of the top ten, two articles are featured content, two are listed as Good Articles, and the remaining six are assessed as C-class.

№	Article	Movement
1	Satellite	↑6 (7)
2	Space Shuttle	↑11 (13)
3	NASA	↑7 (10)
4	Neil Armstrong	↓1 (4)
5	Apollo 13	↑4 (9)
6	Global Positioning System	↓1 (5)
7	International Space Station	↑5 (12)
8	Space Shuttle Challenger disaster	↓7 (1)
9	Apollo 11	↓3 (6)
10	STS-133	↑78 (88)

For the full list of the top 1,500 popular pages within the project, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Spaceflight/Popular pages (or the archived record for February).

Selected Article: Europa

Europa was a rocket developed by a multinational European programme in the 1960s. Consisting of British, French and German stages, it was intended to provide a European alternative to the US rockets used for the launch of most Western satellites to that date. Although the British Blue Streak first stage performed well on all flights, problems with the French and German stages, as well as the Italian-built payload fairing, resulted in the failure of all multistage test flights and orbital launch attempts. The programme was abandoned after the failure of the Europa II's maiden flight in 1971. The article Europa (rocket), describes it:

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The Europa rocket was an early expendable launch system of the European Launcher Development Organisation (ELDO), which was the precursor to the European Space Agency and its Ariane family of launchers. The programme was initiated by the UK and the first launch occurred in August 1967.

Tasks were to be distributed between nations: the United Kingdom would provide the first stage (derived from the Blue Streak missile), France would build the second and Germany the third stage.

The Europa programme was divided into 4 successive projects :

Europa 1: 4 unsuccessful launches
Europa 2: 1 unsuccessful launch
Europa 3: Cancelled before any launch occurred
Europa 4: Study only, later cancelled

The project was marred by technical problems. Although the first stage (the British Blue Streak) launched successfully on each occasion, it was the second or third stage that failed.

”

The article is currently assessed as start-class, and is missing a lot of information. It also lacks some basic features such as inline citations. Since Europa was a fairly major programme, enough information should be available to produce a much higher quality article, and it could probably be brought up to GA status with enough effort.

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zk*rvené hranice

Loved this. I corrected the Czech and Slovak for you (not sure about the second one in Slovak, but I'm pretty sure the others are all right) - filelake shoe 23:29, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Gottfried Stein

The article Gottfried Stein has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Long-term unreferenced biography of no clear notability. (It is also possible that it is conflating two different people: a composer born in Frankfurt 1932 and a journalist. But neither appears to meet the Notability criteria, nor to have a biography on the German Wikipedia.)

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. AllyD (talk) 19:53, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

translation bots

Sir: you were referred to me as someone who knows about the use of translation bots on Wikipedia. I am helping to write a book about Wikipedia and would like to ask you about this subject--the practice is almost unknown, even among Wikipedians. Please email to metasonix@gmail.com if you would be willing to talk. 76.191.143.226 (talk) 23:40, 28 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:WPTL articles

Category:WPTL articles, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. — Mr. Stradivarius ^♫ 14:57, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Outreach to developers in Russia & nearby

Hi, Francis! We met at the Google Summer of Code mentors' summit. Hope you're doing well. I would love help with some translation & outreach to improve awareness of the Wikimedia & MediaWiki development community -- would it be possible for us to chat and follow up from our discussion in October? If it's convenient for you to stop by #mediawiki on Freenode sometime (I'm sumanah on Freenode) then that would work.

best, Sumanah (talk) 14:54, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments requested at Flag of Western Sahara

Hello - Your comment is requested over at Talk:Flag of Western Sahara; there is an RfC underway there to help decide what the article contents should be. If you can take some time to share your opinion on the matter, it would be very much appreciated. --Tachfin (talk) 09:47, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

re this comment

Hey,

Just wanted to make a couple points regarding your comment.

1)No one doubts there is an Iroquois passport (IP), but proposal 2 would essentially argue that we should move IP to United States passport to suggest that an IP is just another kind of passport which Americans carry.

2)re "Wales" - Wales isn't a disputed territory in the same sense as Western Sahara (WS). Northern Ireland is! Check out Flag of Northern Ireland. The union jack appears there.

3) re "Kurdistan" - Kurdistan isn't a distinct/real geographic entity. Anyone looking for the "flag of Kurdistan" would probably be aware that Kurdistan is only a theoretical place, and hence the Kurd flag doesn't really represent the region. If someone looks for Flag of Western Sahara and sees the SADR flag, they might presume that flag is actually used to represent the region, which of course is incorrect...... NickCT (talk) 13:18, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Fran 3.jpg listed for deletion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Fran 3.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 14:57, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to events in June and July: bot, script, template, and Gadget makers wanted

I invite you to the yearly Berlin hackathon. It's 1-3 June and registration is now open. If you need financial assistance or help with visa or hotel, just mention it in the registration form.

This is the premier event for the MediaWiki and Wikimedia technical community. We'll be hacking, designing, and socialising, primarily talking about ResourceLoader and Gadgets (extending functionality with JavaScript), the switch to Lua for templates, Wikidata, and Wikimedia Labs.

Our goals for the event are to bring 100-150 people together, including lots of people who have not attended such events before. User scripts, gadgets, API use, Toolserver, Wikimedia Labs, mobile, structured data, templates -- if you are into any of these things, we want you to come!

I also thought you might want to know about other upcoming events where you can learn more about MediaWiki customization and development, how to best use the web API for bots, and various upcoming features and changes. We'd love to have power users, bot maintainers and writers, and template makers at these events so we can all learn from each other and chat about what needs doing.

Check out the the developers' days preceding Wikimania in July in Washington, DC and our other events.

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Please comment on Georgia (country) to Georgia move suggestion

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Congratulations on the PhD!

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flag of the administrator

Hello. I submitted an application for receiving a flag of the administrator, however, as to vote there is nobody, to a type of absence of active participants, and reaction what. You the only Bureaucrat who can render a verdict, or in a positive side, or in the negative. I ask to take measures. Yours faithfully,--AryanSogd 04:42, 12 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Language-population update project

Hi. The 18th edition of Ethnologue just came out, and if we divide up our language articles among us, it won't take long to update them. I would appreciate it if you could help out, even if it's just a few articles (5,000 articles is a lot for just me), but I won't be insulted if you delete this request.

A largely complete list of articles to be updated is at Category:Language articles citing Ethnologue 17. The priority articles are in Category:Language articles with old Ethnologue 17 speaker data. These are the 10% that have population figures at least 25 years old.

Probably 90% of the time, Ethnologue has not changed their figures between the 17th and 18th editions, so all we need to do is change "e17" to "e18" in the reference (ref) field of the language info box. That will change the citation for the artcle to the current edition. Please put the data in the proper fields, or the info box will flag it as needing editorial review. The other relevant fields are "speakers" (the number of native speakers in all countries), "date" (the date of the reference or census that Ethnologue uses, not the date of Ethnologue!), and sometimes "speakers2". Our convention has been to enter e.g. "1990 census" when a census is used, as other data can be much older than the publication date. Sometimes a citation elsewhere in the article depends on the e17 entry, in which case you will need to change "name=e17" to "name=e18" in the reference tag (assuming the 18th edition still supports the cited claim).

Remember, we want the *total* number of native speakers, which is often not the first figure given by Ethnologue. Sometimes the data is too incompatible to add together (e.g. a figure from the 1950s for one country, and a figure from 2006 for another), in which case it should be presented that way. That's one use for the "speakers2" field. If you're not sure, just ask, or skip that article.

Data should not be displayed with more than two, or at most three, significant figures. Sometimes it should be rounded off to just one significant figure, e.g. when some of the component data used by Ethnologue has been approximated with one figure (200,000, 3 million, etc.) and the other data has greater precision. For example, a figure of 200,000 for one country and 4,230 for another is really just 200,000 in total, as the 4,230 is within the margin of rounding off in the 200,000. If you want to retain the spurious precision of the number in Ethnologue, you might want to use the {{sigfig}} template. (First parameter in this template is for the data, second is for the number of figures to round it off to.)

Dates will often need to be a range of all the country data in the Ethnologue article. When entering the date range, I often ignore dates from countries that have only a few percent of the population, as often 10% or so of the population isn't even separately listed by Ethnologue and so is undated anyway.

If Ethnologue does not provide a date for the bulk of the population, just enter "no date" in the date field. But if the population figure is undated, and hasn't changed between the 17th & 18th editions of Ethnologue, please leave the ref field set to "e17", and maybe add a comment to keep it so that other editors don't change it. In cases like this, the edition of Ethnologue that the data first appeared in may be our only indication of how old it is. We still cite the 14th edition in a couple dozen articles, so our readers can see that the data is getting old.

The articles in the categories linked above are over 90% of the job. There are probably also articles that do not currently cite Ethnologue, but which we might want to update with the 18th edition. I'll need to generate another category to capture those, probably after most of the Ethnologue 17 citations are taken care of.

Jump in at the WP:LANG talk page if you have any comments or concerns. Thanks for any help you can give!

— kwami (talk) 02:44, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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