I sincerely do not understand why did you revert and protect the page regarding LupinoJacky's edit ? I mean his edit was a more than legitimate one , the sources do show that Albania was an Ally power . On the other hand the user: The Banner , is clearly biased . I understand that the first reaction is to always side with an experienced editor vs an unregistered one , and usually rightfully so but this was not the case here ;) . Regards , Gjirokastra15 (talk) 10:00, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I am not siding with the experienced editor but with the status quo, esp. given that the new editor seemed somewhat unaware of how these things are to be handled. Clearly this has the potential of being highly contentious, if it already isn't. That "the sources do show that Albania was an Ally (sic) power"--well, if that's so obvious, talk page consensus should be a formality. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 15:26, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The way i see it is this : There is a plethora of sources showing that Albania was an Ally power such as this one : The first peace treaty concluded between the Allies and a former Axis nation was with Italy . It was signed in Paris on February 10 , by representatives from Albania , Australia .... etc.etc.source »Encyclopedia of World War II, Volume 1 . Which is clearly stating Albania as an Ally power , thus listing Albania as an axis power is totally irrational given the fact that you will find not a single source stating that Albania was an axis power . Of course i am not saying that you have anything to do with it , do not get me wrong , but given the fact that you reverted on TheBanner's behalf i thought to let you know, being an administrator . As for the talk page i am seeing the talk page and LupinoJacky has brought a myriad of sources and referenced assertions these last days , while TheBanner has offered only POV & Sockpuppet accusations and 0 sources showing Albania as an axis power . I thought to just give you the full spectrum ( at least the way i understand it to be ) for obvious reasons ( you being an admin and being indirectly implicated to this ) . Gjirokastra15 (talk) 17:50, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I appreciate the note, but in this case I'm really going to play the admin and say that I'm not involved in the content discussion. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 17:59, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If you play the admin and not get involved, then why do you respect TheBanner's decision to protect the page and not my subsequent request to unprotect it? I am curious to ask if the definition of an admin state that opinions of users having nickname "TheBannner" have a priority over users having nickname "LupinoJacky"? If not, then would you be kind enough to either explain the reasons why the page is still protected (do you think I am violating any rule) or unprotect the page. Respectfully, LupinoJacky (talk) 00:51, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I strongly deny malicious accusations on canvassing. Given that the complexity of the topic and the adversary opinions expressed by an editor (exercised through persistent reverting of reference-backed edits), I contacted several users whom I believe to be knowledgeable and competent (based on their contribution on WW2 and Albania) on the matter to provide opinions and assistance. It is my utmost right to request inputs and opinions of users. At most, one should thank me for creating a quorum of opinions in order to improve the quality of the pages. Dear Drmies, either you prove those canvassing accusations against me if there is any truth in it, or you punish the user TheBanner? He cannot groundlessly accuse people and walk away as if nothing happened. LupinoJacky (talk) 13:38, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You specifically invited people to intervene at your side of the disagreement with this: Dear Editors, -- Please let me kindly invite you to investigate and clarify the status of Albania as an Allied force. Since there is an editor below who unilaterally refuse even considering the provided facts and historical sources, then I invite a quorum of other editors (preferable with knowledge on WW2 history and Balkans) to investigate the case. Best Regards what clearly falls foul of Wikipedia:Canvassing. And you did that 12 times. The Bannertalk15:11, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
How on earth can such a request be a canvassing: "Please let me kindly invite you to investigate and clarify the status of Albania as an Allied force...I invite a quorum of other editors (preferable with knowledge on WW2 history and Balkans) to investigate the case. " ? Dear Drmies, please take action against this accusations that have no relation to a serious behavior of an editor/admin? Citing Wikipedia:Canvassing "In general, it is perfectly acceptable to notify other editors of ongoing discussions, provided that it is done with the intent to improve the quality of the discussion by broadening participation to more fully achieve consensus.". My request to invite people to contribute their expertise to the discussion is a positive behavior, as I categorically did not ask them to support any side. Dear Drmies, as this case is obvious I request you to take the neccessary disciplinary action against TheBanner for ungrounded accusations. LupinoJacky (talk)
Ah, well--let me count the ways. No, the first way suffices already: in your summary you left out "there is an editor below who unilaterally refuse even considering the provided facts and historical sources", so your message wasn't neutral to begin with. Sorry, but that's pretty obvious. The second way would be to investigate who you sent that message to, whether it was a carefully selected group of editors who can be assumed to favor your side. I don't wish to do that at this time. Now, the case of your canvassing is actually obvious. If you wish me to investigate the Banner to see what action I should take, my guess is that this is going to end with at least a warning, possibly a block--for the guilty party, which is you. Do tell me if you wish to pursue this further, or if you will be satisfied with trying to settle this in a more acceptable way, with arguments on the talk page. Good luck. Drmies (talk) 01:51, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Drmies, I accept the mistake of kindly inviting other editors to investigate and clarify this issue, based on their relation to edits on WW2 and Albania. This is obviously a wrong action of mine, since the editor was very open minded in accepting and considering my sources and did not unilaterally try to block me using his direct/indirect powers. In that situation, I agree with you to not pursue this issue further, and settle it on talk pages. LupinoJacky (talk) 11:21, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe--but I'm not sure why you're telling me this. EdJohnston placed the block. Anyway, I saw the SPI, but I'm no CU; if you want me to block on behavioral evidence (which is all I could do) you'll need a few more items of proof and an explanation or two, from other articles. Drmies (talk) 16:46, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hey there Drmies. I know we don't always agree (and that's a good thing in my opinion), but I wanted to take a moment to reply to a couple of your comments in a now closed discussion on ANI. First, with your comment of This discussion starts of with "inappropriate" as a key word, and I think you see that no one thinks it inappropriate, there appeared to be a fairly split group of those that thought it was inappropriate and those that thought it was though they may think it strict. That said, I'm not overlooking your point that I probably shouldn't have used the word "inappropriate" in the sub-section header, even with the "?" at the end to indicate that I wasn't attempting to make a pointed accusation but instead asking what the community thought. I know I have difficulties with 'picking the right wording' quite often, and I have been working on that for about 25 years now. Someday I'm sure I'll get it.
The second thing I wanted to reply to was the comment of it may surprise you to find that on occasion admins feel harassed by "regular" editors. It certainly does not surprise me at all. That is why I slept on the idea and then did some research before starting the new subsection on ANI in the first place. I will say that I think that part of that is due to the fact that there is a fairly strong divide between administrators and regular editors as too many regulars don't see the admin toolset as just a set of tools which might be because there are one or two administrators who don't use them as such. Like the saying goes, it only takes one or two bad grapes to spoil the wine. As for but you're an admin hopeful, I believe, you'd be very wrong. I'd much rather see a local interface editor be created on enwp for me to be able to do the work I want to do. I honestly don't care much about blocking other editors, dealing with complaints and resolving disputes over squat, protecting pages outside of high-use/fragile templates, or deleting pages other than to make room for moves or whatnot. Short of that, I feel like I might be forced to run for admin to do the tasks I am good at and want to do. get ready to eat shit. Happy days -- Yeah, I'm ready, happy days indeed (/sarcasm) — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c)17:49, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
OK. First of all, I was pointing at the comments in your subsection: no one there thought the block "inappropriate". Seicer's point, that three admins had looked at it, is worth emphasizing as well. I'm not sure where you see this split. Second, I don't remember where I got the "admin hopeful" from--possibly the "Administrator hopefuls" category on your user page. :) In most cases, the blocking of editors is really not fun, despite popular opinion. I mean, vandals, racists, BLP abusers, that's easy. And I wasn't really criticizing you for using that word--I don't really think it's a terribly POV-y word--it's more a technical rhetorical use: I'm answering your question with "no", so to speak. Also, I noticed no one wished you a happy birthday, at least not in that thread: my apologies, I should have paid better attention. I do hope you got that robot, or dog, or Bacon of the Month subscription, or Meghan Trainor album, and everything else you wished for... Drmies (talk) 18:25, 6 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Good! Enjoy it while it lasts. I have a baby in the house today and she's totally cute. The older children--well, they're racking up sins already, and one of them is paying for it this weekend...punishment...remember when they said "trust me, it hurts me more than you"? They were right. Drmies (talk) 23:56, 6 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I tell you what, it's odd. It's kind of like a crunch cauliflower casserole. Not bad, but not pizza. Fortunately I also made "real" pizzas for me and the kids, with BBQ chicken, pepperoni, and bacon. What I really need is a sieve to run the tomato sauce through... Drmies (talk) 16:07, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'll give it a go at some point. I've got a half-eaten cheese sandwich here that my stepson doesn't want because he (apparently) doesn't like chutney anymore. Shall I send it over? Pizzas are the great "stand-by" food for kids as everyone can make a decision on what toppings to have (which you can then say "sorry, we've only got cheese"). I don't think I've still ever seen actual pizza cheese, maybe they don't sell it over here. PS: Our album got released today. Ritchie333(talk)(cont)16:17, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nola Carveth has continued to make unsubstantiated, outing-like claims against me on his/her talk page, now with the additional false claim of sockpuppetry — which I refuted, with details, at the Jimbo Wales page. May I please ask that his/her false and very upsetting charges be removed from his talk page? His/her posting there seems like a back-door way to spread hi/hers false accusations for whatever personal agenda he/she is pursuing. I thank you very much for any help .... you know I've done my best to be a good, conscientious and productive editor all these years, with many colleagues who respect my work and like collaborating with me. With best regards, --Tenebrae (talk) 17:38, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, gladly. Tenebrae, I actually don't know you very well though I have seen your name plenty in the last few years--but I can tell a hatchet job well enough, and whoever oversighted Jimbo's page must have thought the same thing. Crampudder, Nola Carveth, this is not going to work. Drmies (talk) 22:10, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your resolution of the ANI action against Robert Walker.
Also I need to apologize: I must have been making an edit at the same time as you were closing out the action; I ended up inserting a minor edit after the action was closed. My apologies for that. It was certainly unintentional. Best regards, Dorje108 (talk) 22:32, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
No problem--thanks. I hope Robert Walker was paying attention: there is no sanction yet, but he should realize he is put on notice, and if I find that in individual cases he is either being disruptive or harassing another editor, a block may result. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 23:03, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Haf, the really obvious thing is that this is a BLP, that there seems to be a history of plugging this person, and that the link is not to a reliable source. Why they'd have a reason to lie (or not check the accuracy of the facts they're provided with), I cannot answer that--but we ask for strict sourcing in part to keep fluff out. Drmies (talk) 17:20, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Couldn't anyone help from the right project? Seriously this guy is a great scientist. And sitting in the gulag was not much more fun than sitting in a concentration camp, he has been inprisoned, tortured and exiled - we really could be a bit kind with him. And many never returned from the gulag - he is lucky to survived that part. Hafspajen (talk) 21:20, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
EXO articles make me weep. This is after I removed about four song charts from the article, as well. XOXO (album)#Charts is an article I'm trying to merge nine song articles into, but the chart section (which is exactly per the MOS, as far as I can tell) is such a mess I don't know what to do. Different markets are in different tables, different editions in different tables, different times of year in different tables, and it's all really ineffective. Yet it's per the albums MOS. I can't even figure out what to axe, because Gaon separated all the editions out, while other markets combined the editions. What can I remove while still following the MOS and retaining info that does (apparently) have a legit place in the article? (A custom combined chart's lookin' pretty good about now, I think, ha ha.) So yeah, advice would be appreciated. Please ignore ugliness in other parts of the article as I go about my mergin' business; it will be a bit dusty as I copypasta. :) Thank you! Shinyang-i (talk) 05:00, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Which MOS? Is there a Korean one, or just a regular one from the Albums project group? As with many of these articles, one of the problems is the plethora of information. Is all of it necessary? Why don't you ask a couple of old hands, who are experienced in the music article business? The first name that comes to mind is Dan56, but there's plenty of others. Good luck Shinyang--I'll look at the article more when I have a moment. Drmies (talk) 14:09, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
There's a Korean one but it's mostly for Korea-specific stuff. I mean the albums one, the one that came up with the f(x) merges I did recently. It seems to me, too, that some of the info should go, but which info? Darn Korea and it's 25 editions of everything! =P I'll shoot Dan56 a note. It'll help me for future editing, as well, because this issue is bound to come up again. And thanks for giving the articles a second look; a person can only edit & reword so many times before it all looks like Klingon. I'm making slow but sure progress! Shinyang-i (talk) 22:28, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Do you mean you are trying to merge chart tables from different song articles into the album article? If that's the case, I would merge them into a discography section for the artist instead, since it wouldn't be off-topic there or extraneous there. As far as what charts, I'm not familiar with Korean charts, but Billboard has a similar system of charts supplementary to the popular/main singles chart. You could trim to your discretion if you know which charts are most important. You could also mention the less important charts at XOXO (album)#Charts in prose (write out in a section somewhere that it charted on so-and-so chart) rather than embedded tables, keeping only the most important/main charts in table form. Dan56 (talk) 23:18, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ah hello! Thanks for the response! The article you're seeing now is post-merge; I merged nine song articles into it. The charts section of the article is actually what it looks like after I removed the songs charts previously present (artist has a discography article already). The charts remaining all represent the album itself and important markets - US, China, Japan, and Korea; it's the home country of Korea (Gaon Charts) that's causing most of the problem. There are really no charts to trim out of it, as only two are shown - the albums chart and the international albums chart. Even removing the int'l chart wouldn't cut down on the number of tables present. It's the formatting of the material - every edition and every time frame in its own table - that (I think?) is mandated by the albums MOS that causes the central problem. No one edition or version is more or less important than the others. Putting it all in one custom table is (IMO clearly) the way to go, but alas, that violates the MOS. I've posted the issue at the WP Albums, as well, to gain more opinions. Thanks for your feedback, I will take it into account! :) Shinyang-i (talk) 01:30, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for making the effort to close WP:ANI#Conduct_of_J_Doug_McLean. However, I think you missed the point of the complaint, and a significant amount of context was not taken into consideration.
You suggest an RfC process can be used to "judge insults". I never said any of the conduct I linked was insulting. In fact I described the subject of my complaint as "eloquent and persuasive". Are you aware that making unfounded allegations is a form of bullying?
You said you looked at "a number" of the diffs. Did you look at my "refuted" link? Do you think my words were taken out of context? Do you think the earlier comment I referred to there was a straw man?
Did you look at the context of the comment made towards myself and 0x0077BE? Did either of us make any such assertion at any time? If so, where? Does my link to "evidence" make it clear that I was making no such claim? Is misrepresenting the views of another editor against the civility policy?
The civility policy says that isolated incidents should be ignored, and only "ongoing incivility" should be confronted. It may be reasonable to say an isolated incident doesn't cross the "civility boundary" individually. It is easy to ignore isolated incidents, but an ongoing pattern is problematic. Is the civility policy supposed to address this?
Hi, I left this message on User talk:Nakon and noticed afterwards that his last edit was on 19 April 2014 so is obviously not active. Could you oblige or redirect me to an appropriate admin. Thanks Cathar66 (talk) 16:36, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hi I'm contacting you because as you were the admin that deleted Sam Smyth (at 04:06, 22 August 2010) on grounds of (G3: Vandalism) I had started working in my sandbox, on an article on this notable Irish journalist because it didn't exist. Because many of the bio sources are behind paywalls I wonder if you could do a TempUndelete of short duration so that I can access them and any other pertinent text. Reinventing wheels is a tedious and thankless task. I am aware that we live in diferent time zones so time is not of the essence. Thanks (left at 16:10, 8 February 2015 (UTC) )
Ha, no, there is no way I can restore that--trust me, it is not an attempted article about an Irish journalist. It's not protected, so I think you can just go ahead and create it. Let me know if you run into any problems. Drmies (talk) 17:13, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I suppose Sam Smyth is a common name like Joe Bloggs. The times paywall is an exorbitant 1 pound for a 30 day trial which I am reluctant to pay into Murdoch's pockets. I will get a friend to subscribe for me as my current browser configuration makes form filling difficult. Take it easy. Cathar66 (talk) 18:20, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You know, there's plenty of Britishers and maybe Irishers who might have access to what you need. Martinevans123 is one of them, I believe, as are Sitush and HJ Mitchell--though the latter is an admin and may not know anything about "content". There's also a place on Wikipedia where you can ask for folks to find you sources--I'll look for it. Drmies (talk) 19:25, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Martinevans123 but if you're implying I'm a fairy I hate to disappoint you because I'm straight. Those and the fairies were real people - souterains were used defensively in Iron age times and before as a place to hide when hill forts were attacked.
The people hiding came out at night hence the myths that became fairytales of fairy forts and fairies coming out at night. As an atheist I've always preferred the christian sect known today as Cathar(a church pejorative term now normalised and used in marketing by the Aude department in France) described themselves as bonhommes. Old onetime teachers always feel the need to explain even when explanations aren't necessary. Academia was boring with too much empty posturing and ganes. I will follow up on Sitush suggestion and leave a message on those talk pages and deprive the digger of any ill gotten gains at my expense.Cathar66 (talk) 21:55, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I have access (Free! Thank you, Birmingham libraries!) to "Times Digital Archive - complete from 1785 - 1985". There are only two search results for "Sam Smyth", both from the 1880s. One of those is a small ad, the other a notice about the election of Major Sam Smyth as mayor of Aldburgh on Sea. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits23:15, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Pigsonthewing: Andy, are you sure about the 1985 end date? If so then you may wish to sign up for the Manchester Central Libraries online access doo-dah, which extends it to somewhere in the 2000s. It is free to all UK residents, although it seems unlikely that this will help the needs of Cathar66. @Cathar66:, you could do the same if in the UK but, if not, then let me know and I will trawl The Times for you tomorrow, in so far as I can using the aforementioned scheme. If I find anything, I'll leave a note on your talk. Just refactored your post a little. I hope you do not mind. - Sitush (talk) 01:23, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This is the search string: [1]. The first two articles are his profile [2] and story [3]. Unfortunately the site doesn't like my browser configuration so I can't see more than the tops of 2 articles. There seems to be a very substantial number of articles written by prominent Irish journalists that Irish media (for obvious reasons) and even the Guardian which I read daily haven't covered. I used to use the business section reading room in the Main library in Brumland. Is it still open? There was some talk of closure. When my IP refreshes I'll have another look. Thanks Cathar66 (talk) 00:17, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for all of your help and advice. I just remembered that I have to go to Dublin on business and the commercial section of Dublin City Library has both online and physical archive of the times.
To put my interest in context I have conflicted views on him as a journalist- he was one of those obsequious and lazy journos that just repeated establishment press releases and briefings. His articles I normally avoided when reading papers. He has no formal training and his original background was as a music promoter. He also acted as a back channel for detailed information supplied by concerned Civil Servant sources. These sources enabled him to be the only Irish journalist to twice achieve European Investigative Journalist of the year. He achieved the second award in n 1997 for his exposure of a political scandal that led to the resignation of a government minister and ultimately the fall of a government and 100s of millions spent on tribunals set up inter alia to investigate the corruption revealed.
Time moves on and one of Ireland's richest men (net worth eventually acquires a 29.6% stake in the largest Irish print media group but was still not able to control it. One of his representatives (who is now the chairman) on the board was forced to resign because of an ill thought out attempt to influence editorial content and suppress articles written by Sam. Surprisingly another investor then, independently, built up a shareholding and effective but not legal control went to the first minority shareholder. Coincidentally this gentleman was also a significant investor in the company Digicel (a mobile phone operator). This gentleman apart from his own investment has other friends who also invested a paltry (from their perspective) few hundred million. Concert parties are not permitted under Stock Exchange regulations.
Long story short it's press freedom and corruption and an inability of media regulators to act because a minority interest is not viewed as a controlling interest.
Why do I care? There is no money in it for me and that's all that counts in life! Ireland is a very small country. I was once, in a former life before I learned sense, a black sheep who thought like my gentlemen friends. I socially and commercially intermingled with them and made money from the crumbs of inside information. They of course would never have been aware of my existence. I have a very long time ago decluttered, in a constructive way, any ill gotten gains. I only charge for advice when necessary because sometimes strangers think that "free advice is worth what you pay for it". I drive an old car (no more mercedes shit - anyway they rust like hell) and live modestly within my means. The wife's car is a lot newer but she had to earn it on her own.
I'm not suicidal so I didn't contribute to any of the planning tribunals and I hide in plain view and prefer genuine country people. The only field I'm outstanding in is one of my own and that's churned and mucky at this time of year. Some of my cousin's did achieve global recognition in their areas of interest. I'm happy with my view of the sea and bog from my house and can walk on the mountains whenever I like. I'm a lot older than I once was and I'm not in a hurry. Irrelevant flies should let hibernating bears sleep. Why do stupid and irrelevant Americans with their bullshit scams think the world revolves around them?
last point on, charming and amiabl,e Sam Smyth he was the useful idiot that helped bring about the demise of Centre for Public Inquiry. He couldn't investigate a pimple on his own backside. Chuck the billionaire who wasn't just hated publicity.Cathar66 (talk) 17:19, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
FYI in case any flak comes your way - back in December 2011, you userfied User:Andrewudstraw/sandbox. In three years since then it has been developed into a full-fledged political poster listing all his "campaign themes". It was not heading towards an encyclopedia article, and I have just deleted it as spam. (He has also been trying to add his bio elsewhere). JohnCD (talk) 23:31, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Did you read his bio? I totally agree with the man on just about every issue, haha. The only thing I'm missing is an anti-gun stance, but hey, nobody is perfect. :) Drmies (talk) 01:23, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I note that you left a message on the talk page of User:Ankurtrip123 about edits to Madan Mohan Malaviya Engineering College. I note that they and some others, which may be the same editor, have been making new, similar, presumably bogus edits to the same page. One, User:Gsyadav1994 also made some edits to Connection-oriented communication that didn't look especially malicious, but were, at least, unhelpful. And I've dealt with them already. But not knowing owt about Madan Mohan Malaviya Engineering College, I haven't revereted anything there - but it looks well mucked-up to me. Thought you might be interested. Graham.Fountain | Talk10:13, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The people I named with close ties to for-profit colleges is well documented. Yet you decided to remove all the information. Is this how you work? Dahnshaulis (talk) 12:18, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You may well have a point. But consider also that I think that Hafspajen is building an archive of World Art in my archive, in case the world falls apart. BTW, there is a talk page for my talk page; perhaps that's a better place to propose this--User talk:Drmies/talk. Drmies (talk) 23:58, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Our father has had our mother neutered, and now he ploughs the fields with untold sorrow. Please ring after midnight
Why did you delete the events about kpop concerts in america. Now we can't see what's coming up ? Can you put it back up? (Kpopfanatic234) Half in slaap. Weet niet wat ik doe. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 06:29, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I can't spare my truss or any of my surgical appliances. Anyway, you are quite clearly all bonkers on this page, and I haven't a clue what you are talking about, so I will cease stalking it. Giano(talk)13:51, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hafspajen, Xanty, see what you've done? You chased away one of the last of the REAL editors. That's it: no more fun. Giano, I want to thank you for having graced this place with your presence no fewer than five times, which is five times more than Puppy of Dog The Teddy Bear, for instance--though they said something nice about me. Anyway, feel free to suggest improvements on my meta talk page, User talk:Drmies/talk, and please continue to make us look good to the outside world. Drmies (talk) 16:07, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You're all completely barking here. I'm not coming back without at last two minders. None of you are getting your hands anywhere near my truss! Giano(talk)18:04, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hafs - I looked everwhar, even checked research in PUBMED for an abstract describing how a mother could be neutered, and then figured it would be best if I just steered clear of that argument. Hopefully the neutering, or spaying as I would imagine, took place according to the advice of the Farmer's Almanac which I believe is considered a RS according to WP:MEDRS. Atsme☯Consult16:35, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nose. On your nose. Drmies (talk) 16:55, 10 February [[Category:]]2015 (UTC)
NOSE?? I took this from the painting Dutch proverbs. Click on painting, and when enlarged all figures illustrate a Dutch proverb that's comming up in a pop-up square. The guy with the lid on his head in the left lower corner popup say: English: To get the lid on the head — To end up taking responsibility. Hafspajen (talk) 17:04, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Different proverb. "He who wants what's at the bottom of the pot, gets the lid on the nose". I think we can all agree on the truth of that--even high-hitters like Giano and bottom-dwellers like.., well, you know, multi-colored jackets. Drmies (talk) 05:19, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I can't get the pop-ups (tried two browsers) so I had to go to the article to find that what I thought was To give oral relief to an ugly moose is in fact To confess to the devil. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 19:38, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Here's a Sakotis for you! This cake promotes WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving this cake to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Make your own message to spread WikiLove to others! Happy editing! Hafspajen (talk) 11:53, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, the fuck! Yes, Roy Moore spoke out again, but not everybody listened. This morning's newspaper reported that 50 out of 67 counties (or however many we have--in that order) are not issuing same-sex marriage licenses, but keep in mind that we have an awful lot of sticks out here. Montgomery County is, thanks to Steven Reed--which meant that one of my colleagues could finally get "unmarried" changed to "married" on his husband's death certificate. I saw pictures of weddings in Huntsville and Birmingham as well; I suppose Mobile has them too. But do have a look at Roy Moore--the BLP prevents me from saying what I think of him, of course; mind you, I already lived here when he dumped that 5000 pound Judeo-Christian marble washing machine in the Supreme Court building. I see that there's been some activity in the article and it's now protected. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 18:37, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
BTW, I was going to propose to Tide rolls but he mumbled something about Leviticus and walked away. I could ask LadyofShalott, but she lives in a state where everyone is forced to carry a gun, by law, and I'm kind of scared of her. Drmies (talk) 18:44, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Since we're doing the culture-war thing and you mentioned guns, it reminds me of a work-related trip that I once took to Japan. I was discussing experiences with the surgeons at a Japanese hospital and mentioned gunshot wounds, a staple of any urban (and many suburban and rural) hospital ED's and surgical services. The Japanese surgeons were fascinated—one of them told me that virtually no doctor in Japan has ever seen a gunshot wound, much less has any experience in treating them. (Japan, a country of 126 million people, has between 2 and 15 gun-related deaths per year, and yet somehow despite strict regulation of every aspect of firearm ownership there seems to be an active democracy and a degree of freedom comparable to that which we're told our gun rights are essential to maintaining here in the US). MastCellTalk19:56, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Apparently there is some kind of controversy going on between this band and their management, so the band's fanclub members keep posting entreaties to join some twitter campaign to support the band in the article as well as some controversial claims. They may be true, they may not be, but they can't be on Wikipedia at this moment because it's all unverified right now. At least three users have added the info in the last 24 hours, see [5], [6], and [7]. Based on past events of this sort, I don't see this stopping on its own, and it'd take the burden off editors having to revert constantly. Thanks for anyone who can help. Shinyang-i (talk) 21:08, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for adding the semi-protection, Yngvadottir!!
Don't overgeneralize Hafspajen--that's only one window. Well, one building, two windows. The Haringpakkersteeg is hardly notable for its cheese (?)--rather, it's where Boudisque is, if it's still there, one of the all-time great record stores in the country. I'll ask my friend in Amsterdam what's up with the cheese. Drmies (talk) 03:46, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hafspajen, my brother thinks the cheeses might be plastic. The store is run by this "cheesemaker" I've never heard of. That doesn't mean it's not legit, but hey, I know Dutch cheese. Careful: their website has a cheese app, and if you're not careful you might start oozing liquid yellow goodness from your USB port. Drmies (talk) 16:20, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oranjeboomstraat, een buurtcafé Die sfeer draag ik altijd mee (falls over into gutter). I think "quirky" new European style lager must be a euphemism for cheap lager competing with Polish brews for the "problem drinker" market. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 08:35, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The "problem drinker market" is certainly its target in the UK. Whether it can supplant Special Brew, which has long been the leader at the extreme end, is moot. I know of no Polish brews in the UK but I'm sure they exist, especially since we have had a significant Polish population since at least WW2 (and it has expanded significantly with various regulatory changes of recent years). - Sitush (talk) 08:42, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
There's Zywiec, Zubr, Tyskie etc. A corner shop near me does a range of about 20 different ones, including dark ales, at £1 a can irrespective of strength- must be "tax free". Nitrous oxide's taken off in a big way recently, judging by the little glass canisters scattered around. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 09:23, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Please forgive me turning this oh-so-briefly into a social network The title reminds me of a (probably apocryphal) story from the days of the British Empire, when telephony was rather basic. Someone at the Foreign Office needed to arrange a conversation between a high-up there and the Governor-General in the wonderfully laid-back Jamaica. They telephone the official residence, where they are answered by a servant. The conversation goes:
Hi there Drmies. When you joined this one it was not really an edit war yet but it became one. I'll show you the template I'm sending to one and all anyway and hold the door of the talk page open to you in case you are interested. I am afraid my kids ate all the stroopwafels. As one of the recent editors of Gibraltar who recently (knowingly or not) participated in an edit war over how much prominence to give to a certain item in the lead of the article, I am inviting you to comment on a proposal at Talk:Gibraltar towards unprotecting the article. Can I also take this opportunity to cordially remind you that it is both more collegial and more effective to discuss in talk than to join in an edit war? Thanks a lot. --John (talk) 23:36, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
[[Category:Talkpages decorated by Hafspajen]] Wonder if this get archived will you be removed from the category? Or shall I add to each? Hafspajen (talk) 03:41, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Drmies, some time ago, I created an article on the Dutch painter Jan van der Kooi, who has gained some recognition in the Netherlands when his work was shown on television (in the well known educational children's program "Klokhuis") and when his work was exhibited in the Dordts Museum, one of the top level museums when it coms to modern figurative art.
A few weeks ago, I got a notice that another Dutch user, Pigmentkleur, was trying to translate the article for the enwiki, and he/she sought my advise. I had a look at his/her sandbox article, gave advise to provide more evidence for Van der Kooi's international activities (which were the reason for translating the article), and promised him/her I would ask someone who was more familiar with the Englisch language version, to have a look and point at possible weeknesses. By that someone, I meant you.
This discussion took place on my Dutch talk page, and was picked up by another user, who thought he or she would do us a favour by singlehandedly copying the contents of the sandbox into the main article space, thereby violating the rights of the other contributors, as the edit history was left behind in the sandbox. I'm quite convinced this is contrary to the terms of use.
Hoping to correct this, I requested a speedy deletion of the article from te main article space, so it would become possible once more to move in stead of copy the sandbox article to the main space, when Pigmentkleur feels the time is right. I hope you can have a look at the process. And of course I would appreciate it very much if you could have a look at the sandbox article, and give your opinion if this is ready for the main article space or whether you can see any flaws.
No, I mean that a user should not copy the contents of another user's sandbox into the main article space without seeking his/her permission in the first place. If, and only if the article appears to be ready for the main article space, and its creator is OK with the move, only then a merge of the histories of both versions of the article becomes a possibility. And now I'll be off for a while because it suddenly came to my mind that a few dogs were still waiting to get burned here, so I'll be busy for an hour or so. Wikiklaas17:26, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ha Klaas, doe me volgende keer een directe link ajb! OK, I see that Sphilbrick has taken care of matters, for which I thank them. I'll have a look at the sandbox, though I usually let Hafspajen and their army of editors take care of the art articles. Lotje, you are of course welcome to help out at any stage, but let's leave the moving to Pigmentkleur. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your help. I was also quite surprised by the intervention of Lotje, but figured that that person was the administrator Wikiklaas was planning to contact. Nevertheless, I reverted the article to my last version, in which I think the references are slightly more informative too. Do let me know if there's anything I can do. Best wishes, Pigmentkleur (talk) 18:16, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, Drmies, you're right: off course it would have been neat to provide a link. I did it for the request for speedy deletion but forgot to repeat it here.
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@Xanthomelanoussprog: what do you mean by keeping all his eggs in one basket? He's painting, experimenting with light in shades of white in different seasons, he's drawing and painting landscapes, and he's drawing animals; his drawings of tigers were on display on railway stations all over the country when his four month exhibition in Dordrecht was advertized. The exhibition in Dordrecht was titled "Leonardo's leerling" (Leonardo's pupil) hinting at him combining anatomy with observations on live animals to create realistic pictures, like Da Vinci did. So I guess Brueghel is a bit out of the picture here. Wikiklaas18:20, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The face that launched a thousand ships, does bear the impress of a thousand planks.
A joke. In the absence of any image in the Dutch article, I did a quick search, and noticed he'd done three studies of eggs in baskets. The reference to Breughel is to the painting of proverbs above. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 18:22, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Drmies, I recently completed a peer review of Title (Meghan Trainor album) and I noticed you had commented on the talk page saying that the writing needed "serious work." The person who requested the review was just blocked right after I finished the review and I may need someone else to consider and implement the suggestions and ask any follow up questions. I mentioned this on the talk page for the article as well, but thought I'd mention it to you as well since you also had an interest in improving the article and could probably identify some other things to improve. Tonystewart14 (talk) 19:25, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, really? I guess I have to and check what they were blocked for. I hope it wasn't socking. Well, thanks for doing the review. I'll have a look later--thanks again. Drmies (talk) 20:41, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry to be so fussy, but because the red cross image in the "Blocked" section on your userpage is the first non-table (ie UBX) non-topicon image on your userpage, popups chooses it as the nice big image it displays when hovering over a link to you. —George8211 / T20:13, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I don't think that's fussy, but I don't really understand what you're saying. There's something displayed when you hover over me? That's news. I don't see anything hovering. Can I choose, one way or another, what I want displayed? What if I put that girl with a pony up higher on the page? or a zebra? Then again, "blocked" is kind of funny. Wishful thinking, I'm sure, for some people. Drmies (talk) 20:44, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
George, this was very kind of you. Y'all, I appreciate the input; pity I couldn't see the zebra. Now, who shall I block? I feel all tough now. Let's see, Favonian is probably asking for it. (Hey, Favonian, I got a crazy expensive bottle of Mikkeller here--here's hoping that Mrs. Drmies will forget that I bought it...and I can drink it all by myself...) Drmies (talk) 23:13, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I'm going to block whoever put that impudent zebra there, a beast with--and this is very untypical of the species--no selfrespect. Drmies (talk) 23:16, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
But I am confused, I don't know where it is coming from. It is usually the very first image that hovers, that is why I had so much fun with the lead image, because that is the first that pops up when you hover. But So Sadly, the Doctor with a much less artistic temperament usually removes them and mumbles something about difficult scrolling. If it is so damn difficult scrolling than he should leave the image and archive. But sincerely I don't get where the block-thing comes from...Hafspajen (talk) 03:51, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
As I said before, Hafsterpaf, having an image up top totally fucks up any kind of mobile functionality, which ought to be written in quotation marks to begin with. In addition, I should make you pay part of my cellphone bill, since all these images take forever to load. Not that you care, of course--you just want to cover my naked body in oil paintings and pretend no one else is watching, and devil may care about my data plan. Drmies (talk) 04:31, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
SSsss, Dromiesu, måla inte ..***. på väggen ... - just archive a bit more. No more reproaches about my artistic temperament, I pray. Remember the Swedish actually BLOCKED you for putting images on MY page. This kind of things hurts. CRYyyy. You must praise me more often, than you do. Kyss. Hafspajen (talk) 04:35, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Haha, yes that's true. Hafspajen, your eyes are as deep as the Mediterranean. (But I really can't archive more--I already can't use Template:Talk archive navigation since I'm over 70. Also, it's a hassle. And the main point is you're just using me. Snif.) Drmies (talk) 04:43, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Well, you got a point there, of course. And yes, I AM using you and your talents. You already wrote quite big amounts of articles that all contain featured pictures.... like Woman readings a letter and man writing letter, the Untold sorrow man in Nivernais and the boring Dutch general, just a couple to mention, for example . Albert Tschautsch[9] doesn't have an article either. (Don't think this one can be featured pics though.) Hafspajen (talk) 06:00, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Drmies, love is the language of hearts and is the feeling that joins two souls and brings two hearts together in a bond. Taking love to the level of Wikipedia, spread the WikiLove by wishing each other Happy Valentine's Day, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person.
Sending you a heartfelt and warm love on the eve,
Happy editing, Hafspajen (talk) 14:03, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I am currently compiling a WWW page for the Australian chapter of the Crabtree Foundation, and I would like to include some of the material on the now-deleted Wikipedia page Can you arrange it so I can see that material?
BTW, I don't want to restart the debate that led to the page's deletion after many years of existence, but I couldn't help noticing comments in the Talk page to the effect that it was "just in in-group at UCL" and "UCL keeps it to themselves". In fact the Australian chapter was started 50 years ago and has been continually active. There are also chapters in Italy and South Africa.
Hi Drmies. I am Piotr Konieczny (User:Piotrus), you may know me as an active content creator (see my userpage), but I am also a professional researcher of Wikipedia. Recently I published a paper (downloadable here) on reasons editors participated in Wikipedia's biggest vote to date (January 2012 WP:SOPA). I am now developing a supplementary paper, which analyzes why many editors did not take part in that vote. Which is where you come in :) You are a highly active Wikipedian (85th), and you were active back during the January 2012 discussion/voting for the SOPA, yet you did not chose to participate in said vote. I'd appreciate it if you could tell me why was that so? For your convenience, I prepared a short survey at meta, which should not take more than a minute of your time. I would dearly appreciate you taking this minute; not only as a Wikipedia researcher but as a fellow content creator and concerned member of the community (I believe your answers may help us eventually improve our policies and thus, the project's governance). PS. If you chose to reply here (on your userpage), please WP:ECHO me. Thank you! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here01:05, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Wikinatic08 (user contributions) may or may not need some eyes. Seems to be editing with an obsessive agenda (even SPA) of changing the mention in BLPs of people's "sons" to "boys" (along with some generally unhelpful edits to some in). This does not seem to be done with any mention in these or other BLPs of the opposite gender. In other words...they are specifically adding the word "boy" or "boys" in articles but not altering "daughters" to "girls", which is generally a red flag to me but also may be nothing more than a new editor testing the bouderies of what can be done.--Mark Miller (talk) 01:39, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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