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Thank you. VeryCrocker (talk) 05:38, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
Olivia
Hey! Thanks for the article ratings. A lot of these my students, so I feel a little conflicted about doing so. One question: Olivia, the book, is a Caldecott Honor Book, so maybe "Mid" or "High" instead of "low" importance? It is also a best-selling series. One of my students will write the article for the book in April-May. Here are the wards listed for all the books in the series:
- Caldecott Honor for Olivia, 2000
- Parent's Choice 2000, Gold Award Winner
- Nick Jr. Best Book of 2001
- ALA Notable Children's Books 2000 & 2001
- Child's Best Book of 2001
- Los Angeles Times Best Books of 2000 & 2001
- Publishers Weekly, Best Books of 2000 & 2001
- BookSense Illustrated Children's Book of the Year for Olivia Saves the Circus, 2002
- Voted "Favorite Illustrator" for Olivia Helps with Christmas by over 50,000 children at the Children's Choice Book Awards, 2008
Just a thought. HullIntegrity\ talk / 13:40, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
- okay, good point have raised to mid import - also raised the authors article to mid import as well, it would look a bit funny for a little pig to be more important then her creator, just like Garfield and Jim whats his name:)Coolabahapple (talk) 15:38, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Hello!
I just noticed that Sophie Hunter has notable relatives and this should be reflected in her infobox. All sources are in the family family section of the page. If you may be so kind to copy-paste this to the page, I would be very grateful and it would be a big improvement to her page. Thank you in advance! 93.82.123.109 (talk) 06:01, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
|family =
- Michael Gow
- (maternal grandfather)
- J. E. B. Seely
- (maternal great-grandfather)
- Timothy Carlton
- (father-in-law)
- Wanda Ventham
- (mother-in-law)
Maria Hack
Can't quite see what's stubby and low about this page. What do you suggest is missing? Bmcln1 (talk) 20:27, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Bmcln1, 1st up, if you have a look at my recent history i have been assessing quite a few articles for child lit and may make the occasional mistake (where is my WP:TROUT:) also, i am quite conservative in my assessments (yes i know we wikieditors should be bold but ....) and with Maria Hack, nothing has been improved since it was rated for the biblio and women writer projects as a stub. i did however umm and ahh over whether it should receive a start as it does have some good info, so a slight rewrite further incorporating the references into the articles info would bring it over the line.
- To make it a good solid start and improve further for child lit here are some suggestions/comments (please forgive my ramblings:)):
- - include an infobox ((child lit?) i love them:)),
- - brief synopsis of each of her books,
- - pictures; of maria, where she lived/traveled to that may illustrate their influence on what she wrote, and of book covers, title pages and of pictures within her books,
- - were any of her books used as standard school texts, how popular were they, did they have an affect on how children were educated?
- - how are they seen today.
- i hope this helps. Coolabahapple (talk) 01:58, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
- ps. here is an article I have just assessed as start (a very high start:)) Charlotte Harding Coolabahapple (talk) 02:50, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
I agree about the info box. I don't do pictures, I'm afraid - life's too short. I'm afraid I can't consult any of her books to do a synopsis, but I'll look again on the Web to see if anyone else has done such. There is not a great deal more to be found about her anywhere, to be honest, which is not unusual. As a Quaker and a woman writer of the middle class she would be unlikely to trumpet her literary achievements much in that period, and schoolbooks were not usually reviewed. I feel the page is adequately referenced. Most of the info came from the ODNB, which is reliable. I can send you the text of that if you like, as it's pay-walled. Bmcln1 (talk) 13:32, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
yo
Leave London and go to edit Sydney and Melbourne. -- AHLM13 talk 17:17, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- Left a warning on their talk page for this, sorry for the trouble. They can be bit stubborn at times when their changes get reverted. Ravensfire (talk) 12:51, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
The Goblin Gate
Thanks, might need a AFD but I'm not sure either to be honest! Wgolf (talk) 01:56, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
Extra Parens on Lauren Barnholdt?
Hi! What do the extra parentheses you added on the Education banner on Lauren Barnholdt do? I do not see any effect. HullIntegrity\ talk / 11:53, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
- hi HullIntegrity, without the extra parentheses at Talk:Lauren Barnholdt the bannershell won't work, so instead of just the headings of the various projects with little 'show' buttons, the projects are shown in full; it just looks neater Coolabahapple (talk) 13:11, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
Dimension 5
Thanks for your help. I still don't know how to get around that reflist, but I will. I am working on the TV series "The Next Step Beyond". As a follow up to "One Step Beyond", I'm surprised it isn't listed already! Inkwell765 (talk) 14:24, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for notifying me about the notability issues. I am more than happy to fix the problems on my articles. I'd suggest you also notify the relevant wikiprojects; our Polish one for example is relatively active. I have taken care, I hope, of Świerszczyk, and I'll see about the other one soon. If you consider any AfDs, please check if there are WikiProject Poland templates on the talk page (otherwise we won't be notified), and if you can, try to check with me before the AfD so I can look for refs. Cheers, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:28, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, will do. Coolabahapple (talk) 04:19, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Caldecott
Hi there -- you're welcome. I found them by accident because the same IP had made what looked to be a vandal edit to a different page that I was reading. I just went to the last version before they started messing with it (after doing too much looking up to make sure I wasn't wrong) and then edited that page and saved it. So no rollback privs necessary. I left a warning on that user's IP talk page just in case they were goofing and not vandalizing but I have both pages on my watchlist now as well. Jessamyn (talk) 22:13, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Notice
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Portal links in articles
Hello—I think it's great that you're helping the Children's Lit portal, but the template formatting you've chosen to insert in many pages over the last day is not the appropriate one for most of the instances where you've employed it. I recommend reading the WP:P#How to add portal links to articles and perhaps looking at the correction I made to Wimmelbilderbuch as an example. If you have any questions, just respond here. I'll make sure I check back here next time I'm in wiki mode. Cheers! —jameslucas (" " / +) 11:00, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
- @JamesLucas: Good point. However, see WP:SEEALSO - part of Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Layout - "Other internal links: Portal and Wikipedia books links are usually placed in this section." - which is the first article I read on starting wiki. I think putting a portal in the 'See Also' section encourages readers to click on it to have a look, whereas placing them elsewhere in an article might cause the portal to be lost and ignored. Having the portal within a 'bar' is a matter of asthetics. Admittedly, they sometimes look 'funny', usually when the article is very small and has an infobox, but hopefully that will encourage editors to flesh out the article with more information which will then move the 'See Also' title down. That said I will take your suggestion into account during my 'portal blitz' on child lit articles Coolabahapple (talk) 15:25, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
- I think the most important guideline with regards to your "blitz" (a particularly good term in my mind given that I discovered it on Wimmelbilderbuch!) is that a "See also" section should not be created if the portal link is the only thing that will be populating it. I'd also say that the bar template is an alternate format that should be used judiciously, but that's less important that the sectional issue. Cheers —jameslucas (" " / +) 15:50, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
- @JamesLucas: Fair enough, duly noted.Coolabahapple (talk) 02:11, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
- I think the most important guideline with regards to your "blitz" (a particularly good term in my mind given that I discovered it on Wimmelbilderbuch!) is that a "See also" section should not be created if the portal link is the only thing that will be populating it. I'd also say that the bar template is an alternate format that should be used judiciously, but that's less important that the sectional issue. Cheers —jameslucas (" " / +) 15:50, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
The following is copied from JamesLucas talk page, with thanks to ScalhotrodCoolabahapple (talk) 13:51, 22 May 2015 (UTC):
Wuz i duin suumthin rong??
Hi JamesLucas, thanks for pointing out my mistaken enthusiasm regarding the child lit portal. I have adjusted how I include them on articles (see recent edits:)). By the way, I am open to being 'trouted'
Coolabahapple (talk) 02:19, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Coolabahapple |
Ask and ye shall receive... --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 14:29, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
Proof of Wikipedia's collaborative nature! I was abroad for several days (in a country with plenty of cod but no trout), but everything continued seamlessly here! —jameslucas (" " / +) 13:40, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
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Childrens' Literature
I've reverted at least 2 additions of the Children's Literature Portal, because the relevant books are not children's books. Given that you have recently marked a huge number of books with this portal, I'm interested in understanding how you decide which books belong to the portal. Bluap (talk) 14:11, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
- @Bluap: The Dolphins of Pern has been listed with the children's literature project since 2009. The children's literature portal page states "Children's literature is literature written for and/or marketed towards a primarily juvenile audience. While some books are authored for a youthful audience, others become associated with children through marketing or tradition. Still others are "crossover" books, read by children and adults alike." I've been reading McCaffrey's books since I was 11 or 12. Indeed, her talkpage also has the Children's literature project. That said, if you want to follow my edits and revert anymore which you believe are inappropriate, be my guest; it will probably take me a year or so to have finished checking all the child lit articles and start again. Coolabahapple (talk) 15:25, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
- There is a big difference between an article belonging to a sub-project, which is mainly about a group of editors collaborating to improve a page, and therefore appears on the talk page, not the main article; and an article belonging to a portal, which leads to the classification being on the main page. Bluap (talk) 09:38, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
- @Bluap: Just because I have added the child lit portal to an article's page, doesn't mean the article belongs to that portal. Articles do not "belong" to any "sub-project"(?) or any portal, just like they don't belong to any editor. Editors improve Wikipedia in different ways, for example all/most(?) Wikiprojects including Wikipedia:WikiProject Children's literature state "Here are some open tasks for (WikiProject Children's literature), an attempt to create and standardize articles related to children's literature. Feel free to
- Add Portal|Children's literature to the See also section of related articles."
- When I add that portal to articles it doesn't preclude other relevant portals from being added. I'm interested in child lit so I add that portal, another editor may be interested in SciFi or Novels, they can add those as appropriate. There are many articles which have one or more portals, eg. J. K. Rowling which has 6 portals. Coolabahapple (talk) 16:06, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
- @Bluap: I am not sure this is the proper place for me to "agree" (I was wandering by for another reason involving kittens) but I do agree with Coolabahapple completely. HullIntegrity\ talk / 13:41, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Bluap: Just because I have added the child lit portal to an article's page, doesn't mean the article belongs to that portal. Articles do not "belong" to any "sub-project"(?) or any portal, just like they don't belong to any editor. Editors improve Wikipedia in different ways, for example all/most(?) Wikiprojects including Wikipedia:WikiProject Children's literature state "Here are some open tasks for (WikiProject Children's literature), an attempt to create and standardize articles related to children's literature. Feel free to
It seems kind of weird to me to add that portal to YA (Young Adult) novels... — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 10:46, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Jeraphine Gryphon: I'm adding it to those articles that are included in the child lit project lists. Young Adult Literature (YA) is included within the child lit portal - see Categories of the child lit portal. The definition of what YA is also kind of weird/interesting - could be anything aimed at twelve to twenty-five (see lead of Young-adult fiction), quite a broad age range. Is it time to have a YA portal/project? I don't know, if enough editors are willing to work on it .... I would be perfectly willing to swap a child lit portal for a YA one. Coolabahapple (talk) 12:14, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
- You could ask around on some relevant discussion pages, about what others would think of a YA portal. I think it would be a nice idea (except if no one will volunteer to work on it...) — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 12:18, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
- Yep, but so much to do, so little time ....Coolabahapple (talk) 13:55, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Jeraphine Gryphon: I have found this -
- Yep, but so much to do, so little time ....Coolabahapple (talk) 13:55, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
- You could ask around on some relevant discussion pages, about what others would think of a YA portal. I think it would be a nice idea (except if no one will volunteer to work on it...) — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 12:18, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
so will use it for YA articles I come accross.Coolabahapple (talk) 07:27, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
We need YOU!
Hello Coolabahapple,
Unregistered editors cannot create articles on Wikipedia, but they can use the articles for creation process to submit drafts that registered editors can either accept and publish or decline. The WikiProject Articles for creation is looking for experienced editors who want to partake in this peer review process. If you have what it takes to get involved, then please take a look at the reviewing instructions. To discuss specific AfC reviews, do so freely on the designated talk page.
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If you know an editor who may be willing to help out, please use the template you are currently reading {{subst:WPAFCInvite}}
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- @Worldbruce:, thanks for your kind invitation but I am unable to accept at this time as I am busy (mainly) nosing around in the depths of child lit articles. I promise, however, to keep AFC in mind ... out of interest, is there a way for reviewers to look at say book afcs only or is it a case of browsing and relying on the article title?Coolabahapple (talk) 07:22, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
- Most drafts are completely unsorted, so there isn't any reliable way. Article categories are usually disabled on drafts so those drafts wouldn't show up there. However, drafts can be sorted into WikiProjects, and many WikiProject templates have enabled the use of the "Draft-class" quality, including WP Books and WP Novels, so you would find those drafts here: Category:Draft-Class Book articles and Category:Draft-Class novel articles. — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 07:55, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
- That's an excellent, and frequently asked, question. It looks like while I was editing this you received a better answer, but I'll tell you what I know anyway. Anne Delong suggests that reviewers use the following search box, where you might try "review waiting book"
Search Draft: space
Type a keyword and click on the button. Optionally, add "review waiting" to see only drafts under review, or "CSD G13" for only abandoned drafts. [[Draft:]] |
- It isn't a perfect solution, but can help narrow the field. There has been much talk about a categories system for drafts, and my sense is that a result is on the horizon.
- Your work came to my attention through AfD. I think you'd be a good reviewer at AfC, which is similar to AfD in some ways, but with an added component of assisting, guiding, and retaining new editors. Good luck with your current project. When you have time, or if you need a change of pace, give AfC a try. -- Worldbruce (talk) 08:16, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Worldbruce and Jeraphine Gryphon:, thanks for your informative replies, I will keep afc in mind.Coolabahapple (talk) 08:56, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
- Your work came to my attention through AfD. I think you'd be a good reviewer at AfC, which is similar to AfD in some ways, but with an added component of assisting, guiding, and retaining new editors. Good luck with your current project. When you have time, or if you need a change of pace, give AfC a try. -- Worldbruce (talk) 08:16, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
London demography edit
Reply from User talk:TransportJone#London demography edit
Hello. Good catch, I actually didn't realise that the bottom countries don't line up with each other. Unfortunately I could not fix it, and I'm not very good when it comes to tables anyway. I guess we'll need someone with better table understandings to fix it. But thank you for reporting! --TransportJone (talk) 17:48, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
Philip Pullman high importance
Hello, I'm not sure how these things work (nor what effect 'importance' ratings have), however, would uprating His Dark Materials and its three main books make sense, since these are PP's most notable works (and the articles are not of consistent quality). Pincrete (talk) 17:58, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Pincrete, most definitely!, as major award winners (i would be comfortable with upgrading the series article to top importance) it would be great if these articles were improved. By the way, importance is meant to reflect the relevence an article has to a project (i base my assessments primarily on (notable) awards received, and library holdings and popularity if a book article) ps. i like these books especially Lyra's Oxford, it is such a pretty book and was the first one i read. Coolabahapple (talk) 05:06, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
Invitation to WikiProject TAFI
Hello, Coolabahapple. You're invited to join WikiProject Today's articles for improvement, a project dedicated to significantly improving articles with collaborative editing in a week's time.
Feel free to nominate an article for improvement at the project's Article nomination board. If interested in joining, please add your name to the list of members. Thanks for your consideration. North America1000 07:59, 27 August 2015 (UTC) |
- Hi North America, thanks for the invite, i will check this out. Coolabahapple (talk) 09:22, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply, and for your consideration. North America1000 14:45, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Coolabahapple, I will look out for awards and your other suggestions - Garyvines (talk) 07:58, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
- Garyvines, no probs mate. Coolabahapple (talk) 09:29, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
Portal layout
Hi. You thanked me for "repair layout" at Arnold Lobel#See also (not for "delete Amphibians", i take for granted) and for By the Shores of Silver Lake with correct layout of portals at By the Shores of Silver Lake#External links. I think the main point is, if the Portals code (vertical stack, not horizontal bar) precedes that for ordinary See also and External links bullet lists, then the Portals stack is displayed at right margin adjacent to bullet list; bullet entries wrap around Portals links. --rather than display Portals stack at right margin below bullet list, each Portal on a line of its own. If I understand correctly, Portal templates should always follow those for Commons and other wikimedia. Otherwise they are at the top of their section.
P.S. I am the author of {Portal bar} with comment "delete the word 'bar' ..." -- hundreds or even 1000 at the top of writer/illustrator See also sections, from 2012 or so. --P64 (talk) 16:04, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- Hi P64, thanks for the explanation. I will keep it in mind while trawling thru child lit stubby articles. ps. I like to thank editors who improve articles so you may receive more in the future.:)Coolabahapple (talk) 02:08, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Regarding the deletion proposal of Summer Knight
Not being sure about the ping process, I'll add a quick note here as well.
First, let me thank you for the polite way you're dealing with the issue. I've dealt with a few extremely uncivil editors about the proposed deletion of a few other DF pages. Second, well, I'm concerned about having a missing book or other of the series, but it's already mentioned on the deletion discussion page. Third, I would appreciate if you explained to me why the NYTimes bestseller list not being good enough to establish notability, while Locus and Vector do. It's impossible not to know about the NYTimes bestseller list; having been an avid sf reader in my younger days I know about Locus, but Vector is a complete unknown to me.
Many thanks, 79.51.19.245 (talk) 20:57, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- Hi 79.51.19.245 (talk), 1st apologies for not responding sooner. With regards to the NYTimes bestseller list and notability, I was not saying that their list is not good enough to establish notability, just I was concerned with the book being in the list for one week only, see Wikipedia talk:Notability (books). So I would be a lot happier if a book is on the list for a number of weeks or on the year's bestseller list. With regards to Locus (US science fiction magazine) and Vector (a British science fiction magazine) being okay for notability, it is just that point 1. of WP:NBOOK allows for a standalone article if there are two or more book reviews from reliable sources (although some editors are concerned with this, just have a look at the afds at Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Literature to see the differences of opinion:)) which is what these two magazines are.Coolabahapple (talk) 10:21, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- In other words, one week on the NYTimes bestseller list carries less weight than two reviews in two distinct sf magazines. Well, I think I got the point, so let me thank you again. :) 79.51.19.245 (talk) 16:04, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- no probs. Coolabahapple (talk) 16:19, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- In other words, one week on the NYTimes bestseller list carries less weight than two reviews in two distinct sf magazines. Well, I think I got the point, so let me thank you again. :) 79.51.19.245 (talk) 16:04, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
10,000 Famous Freemasons
I saw your post at Talk:Freemasonry mentioning William Denslow's "10,000 Famous Freemasons". Yeah... it's a great book... which is why we cite it heavily in our two List of Freemasons articles. If you are interested in reading more about Freemasonry and Freemasons, I would suggest picking up some of the other books we cite in our various Freemasonry related articles. Blueboar (talk) 14:54, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Blueboar thanks, will do:)
GA nominee
Hai, I have nominated the film article Loham for GA-status. Which is currently on "Hold on" time and there are some corrections to be done before it ends. Mainly copy editing for grammer and writting style. For making it a good article there are some suggestions referred in Talk:Loham. I invite you to make your contributions to it. --Charles Turing (talk) 13:37, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- Hi (talk), thanks. I have made some edits to the lead, hope they are ok.Coolabahapple (talk) 06:27, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
MIA Apologies
Hey! Thanks for the notes and I will be on them soon. I was AFK on Wikipedia (lurking, but not posting) recently for reasons that are way too complicated to explain. But I am back. --HullIntegrity\ talk / 11:36, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
- Hi {{u}HullIntegrity}}, no probs, great to see you are back. Look forward to more of your excellent contributions. Coolabahapple (talk) 16:40, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
New Companies delsort category
Hi Coolabahapple: Just a heads up that a new deletion sorting page was created on 16 October 2015 for companies, located at Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Companies. Thanks for your work in performing deletion sorting on Wikipedia. North America1000 16:45, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
New Disability delsort category
Hi: Just a heads up that a new deletion sorting page was created on 19 October 2015 for Disability-related articles, located at Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Disability. Thanks for your work in performing deletion sorting on Wikipedia. North America1000 18:09, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
- North America, thanks again. Coolabahapple (talk) 18:11, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
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AfD clarification
Thank you for helping me understand more about the AfD process after the Kelly DiPucchio entry was nominated. It was nice to have it resolved quickly, but it really concerns me that some editors seem to be in a rush to nominate new entries for deletion. This specific situation was my second entry that was listed for deletion, the other was a speedy deletion request that happened within 5 minutes of me creating the entry. The editor claimed it was a "good faith 5-minutes". Is there anything I can do as someone creating new entries to counter this? I may not have many edits compared to the length of time I have been involved in Wikipedia, but I have been paying attention and I think this is one of the thing that scares new editors away. Few may be willing to fight back or even know how to do so. I would love some guidance on this. --LibraryGurl (talk) 15:01, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
- Hi --LibraryGurl, some suggestions: make sure the article has at least two good references before creating it in articlespace, even more if it is about someone; create the article in your sandbox or make it in a subpage attached to your userpage, then you should be able to edit it at your leisure, you might also ask a more experienced editor to have a look at it before creating it in articlespace - and there is also Articles For Creation where reviewer editors check draft articles to ensure they are ok to move to articlespace, they can give good feedback with suggestions how to make improvements, but editors need to be patient as there is usually a backlog; there are editors at the WP:teahouse who are very helpful, you can even ask for a mentor to assist you; also, and I know this may be boring for some (most?) editors, read up on Wikipedia guidelines/policies, so for example, my good references wikilink above leads to one article on reliable sources but the article also lists 20+ others that have great info. hope this is helpful. Coolabahapple (talk) 16:22, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
Ten Little Indians / cupcake
Dear C, Thanks for the cupcake. It was really annoying - eventually I found that the problem was that a previous posted had included <ref without the closing > -- Beardo (talk) 23:47, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
DYK for Carrie Mac
On 12 January 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Carrie Mac, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that Carrie Mac, a Canadian author specializing in Young Adult fiction, is a winner of the CBC Creative Nonfiction Prize, the Sheila A. Egoff Children's Literature Prize, and the Arthur Ellis Award? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Carrie Mac. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
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Why do you say she's a scientist? PamD 08:43, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
- Hi PamD, I have been going through the categories for librariansby nationality and adding the women scientists project, in line with the chat here - Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women. Coolabahapple (talk) 12:46, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Dot and Jim
Hi Coolabahapple, I started the article to get the ball rolling on it. I used to have these learning books as a child. I was surprised there was no article on Dot and Jim at the Wikipedia, so I started one. Some of the topic I remember, but it's been a long time. Maybe you remember them if you're old enough. I couldn't remember the dog's name for instance. Hopefully there are editors out there who are able to contribute useful info to the article. Those books bring back memories. Thanks.Koplimek (talk) 16:39, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Koplimek, thats ok, i am just concerned that the afd monster might gobble it up, hopefully some gallant editors will be able to protect it with lots of references Coolabahapple (talk) 03:13, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
I'm a little confused by your edit here. Was the page showing up an unassessed page? Why would you delete the project? The problem is that Category:NA-Class children and young adult literature articles is largely full of redirects and that draft so maybe the project should consider adding redirect class. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 00:48, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Ricky81682, sorry about using the dreaded d word, in the past there have been a couple of funny things happen in the child lit project Current article statistics table (recently the name of an article that had been deleted years ago kept cropping up for a few weeks, thankfully that has disappeared) and i thought uh oh, here we go again... i think its a good idea to have a redirect class like some other projects, i will raise it on the project talkpage. thanks,Coolabahapple (talk) 07:47, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
- The draft problem is a known one. It's going to mainspace not draft. Check the links. Item 366 is Dan Cahill (39 clues character) when it should be Draft:Dan Cahill (39 clues character). Otherwise if the template is the problem, that's something different than the project itself. Also some projects use separate "redirect" and "needed" classes to identify between redirects and redirects/wanted together -- Ricky81682 (talk) 18:26, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
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Hi 2ReinreB2, thanks for your kind invitation to join RRTF. i won't take it up at this time (but will continue to keep an eye on Riordan articles). Coolabahapple (talk) 04:51, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
- No problem; thanks for the response. Happy editing! -- 2ReinreB2 (talk) 01:44, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
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Thank you for your message! Yes it's me that has written both articles: Elsa Cladera de Bravo and Nadezhda Bravo Cladera. Do I have to send my last article to articles for creation? User: Nadezhda Bravo Cladera Nadezhda Bravo Cladera (talk) 06:55, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
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Thank you for the kitten! Nice surprise.Lelijg (talk) 08:22, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
- no probs:) Coolabahapple (talk) 08:26, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
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Hello C. I wanted to drop you a note that I think that the pic and caption that you posted at User talk:BrownHairedGirl#Mass-moving categories against consensus is wonderful and marvelous. Thanks for bringing a smile to my Sunday morning :-) Cheers and have a delightful week. MarnetteD|Talk 15:51, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
- no probs. Coolabahapple (talk) 01:11, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
Category:Academics from Tacoma, Washington has been nominated for discussion
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Tenorio
Re your comment[1] at AFD:Octaviano Tenorio.
You are right that 7,000 words is awful lot of verbiage on whether to delete one article on a relatively obscure character. And that AFD page isn't end of it: see the long discussion on my talk (permalink)
Of course, it's not really about Tenorio. He has just become the locus for a wider dispute about a set of policy changes which some editors want to pursue. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:58, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
- Hi BrownHairedGirl, thanks and sorry, i didn't mean my comment to be a criticism, quite the contrary, it was meant to be a comment of admiration for you and the other editors involved (most of the time (when i remember), i add a "sarcasm alert" before my ingeniously funny comments, oops i forgot it again:)). Coolabahapple (talk) 16:18, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
- Hey, no prob! I didn't take it as criticism on anyone, just as a rueful comment on en.wp's ability to generate word-mountains on unexpected issues. Sorry that my reply didn't make that clear :) --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:24, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
- thanks, just in case, i have added some more words to my comment. Coolabahapple (talk) 16:26, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
- Hey, no prob! I didn't take it as criticism on anyone, just as a rueful comment on en.wp's ability to generate word-mountains on unexpected issues. Sorry that my reply didn't make that clear :) --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:24, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
- Hi BrownHairedGirl, thanks and sorry, i didn't mean my comment to be a criticism, quite the contrary, it was meant to be a comment of admiration for you and the other editors involved (most of the time (when i remember), i add a "sarcasm alert" before my ingeniously funny comments, oops i forgot it again:)). Coolabahapple (talk) 16:18, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
Resident Evil: Retribution
Hello! I'm currently engaged in a conversation about the plot-section of Resident Evil: Retribution about a Tag you added to it in August 2015 as per this edit. Would you mind terribly coming to the article talk page and outlining your problems with the previous version of the Plot-section and why you included the tag in the first place. --CaptainNtheGameMaster (talk) 09:18, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
- thanks CaptainNtheGameMaster, have left a response at the talkpage, hope it helps. Coolabahapple (talk) 16:33, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
It does. Thank you. --CaptainNtheGameMaster (talk) 10:23, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
Sumeeti Mittal Article for deletion
Hi,
Please suggest ways to improve the article.
Noopur Anand (talk) 06:38, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Noopur Anand, Sumeeti Mittal needs "significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject." - from WP:BASIC, at the moment, a lot of the references in the article point to websites of organisations that she has been associated with, or are brief mentions, the youtube reference is not reliable and the 100womenindia blogspot ("Sumeeti was a brilliant student and had a bend towards engineering from an early age.") is also a concern. The awards she has received do not have their own wikiarticles and so are probably not deemed "a well-known and significant award or honor" (from no. 1 of WP:ANYBIO). That said, some newspaper or magazine articles about Mittal would probably help. Coolabahapple (talk) 08:40, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
Sharon Christian, artist
thanks for your comments on the wikipage about Sharon Christian. I believe all the facts are now supported by verifiable and reliable sources. Icareaboutart (talk) 12:31, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Icareaboutart, thanks for the message, however as "Please vote to keep this site" may be construed as WP:CANVASSING by some editors i will not be taking part in the afd (apart from mentioning this incident). Coolabahapple (talk) 12:54, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
Coolabahapple: I have no intention of canvassing; my comment was left on your talk page in keeping with the spirit of wikipedia, see WP:CANVASSING: "it is perfectly acceptable to notify other editors of ongoing discussions, provided that it be done with the intent to improve the quality of the discussion by broadening participation to more fully achieve consensus". I would like to (re)direct the focus of the discussion on the central issue (the notability of the artist and her claim to a wikipage). Thank you.Icareaboutart (talk) 15:29, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
Adding lists to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lloyd Greif
Hello. I see you've added two lists, Business and California, to this AFD. How would we add people from WP Finance without canvassing please?Zigzig20s (talk) 08:49, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Zigzig20s, i have left a message on the project talkpage notifying them of the afd. Coolabahapple (talk) 09:10, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
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Check out the following new article improvement drives/contests. North America1000 14:35, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
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- thanks for the headsup North America, i will take a look. Coolabahapple (talk) 13:40, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
Zeek Wikipedia Page
Sorry for the hassle but I have been following your work on Wikipedia for a while now. I would like to hear your input regarding Zeek Wikipedia page. There is an ongoing debate regarding Zeek(company) page. I wanted to ask you for your opinion on the matter. I do have COI with Zeek, but I believe the article can meet WP:GNG or WP:CORP if improvements are made. The company has won many awards over the years and has gotten sufficient coverage in reliable sources such as CNBC, TechCrunch , MoneySavingExpert.com and more. Gratefully, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eddard 'Ned' Stark (talk • contribs) 21:32, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Eddard 'Ned' Stark, thanks for the note, the most important things required for an article are reliable sources, these need to be significant and indepth, not just a one line mention (see WP:GNG). Having a look at the present references at Zeek there is an announcement from Blumberg Capital[2], a financial blog listing a capital raising by Zeek [3], a listing as part of a top 100 startup in 2015[4], and a discussion by the company's founder on CNBC[5]. i don't believe these are enough to warrant a standalone article, i note that so far there have been 'deletes' on the afd, what would be useful would be newspaper or magazine articles that discuss the company and its significance (notable awards would also be useful), hope this helps. ps. as you have sought my assistance i will not be involving myself with the afd. pps. as you have mentioned a conflict of interest could you please read WP:COI and make sure you add the appropriate tags to your user/talk page, the Zeek talkpage, and the afd. pps. i note that you have only made a small no. of edits on the 23rd, if you have more than one user account could you also read WP:MULTIPLE, thanks, Coolabahapple (talk) 07:56, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
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- fixed, thanks bot. Coolabahapple (talk) 12:13, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
This kitten looks cute, but it's about to launch a 12,000 word AFD!
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- lol, thanks. Coolabahapple (talk) 03:08, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
moved from userpage
The following was added to my userpage by JERRY1414 regarding Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jerry Toupin(the result was delete), i have moved it here:
Hello...I read your note about me ...Please note that my book: Winter in Canada...was picked number 1 by the Edmonton Journal in February 2015. My name also appears in a dictionnary: Dictionnaire des Auteurs et artistes de l'Ouest Canadien.
Thank You....see if you can change your mind about keeping me in Wikipedia...
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Spelling of Johns Hopkins
In a few of your articles, you reference magazines that are published by "Johns Hopkins University Press" and spell the publisher as "John Hopkins University Press". The proper spelling is Johns not John. I've corrected them, but since this seems like a focus for you, I thought I'd reach out.Naraht (talk) 19:09, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Naraht, thanks heaps, i have amended my "standard words" relating to this source. Coolabahapple (talk) 23:57, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
- NP. Have fun. Every couple of months, I try to do a "John Hopkins" sweep. Unfortunately there are people named that, so I mostly just look for "John Hopkins Press" and "John Hopkins University". Apparently at some point between 1970 and 2000 it changed from "Johns Hopkins Press" to "Johns Hopkins University Press", but even if I knew when, trying to fix that across Wikipedia (to get both right for their time period) would be a huge effort. (And I don't know where "The Johns Hopkins University Press" fits in.)Naraht (talk) 01:12, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
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- Hi Kudpung, thanks! Coolabahapple (talk) 23:19, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
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- thanks for the cool, as we
shiver, oops sweat thru the low 30s, celsius that is. Coolabahapple (talk) 02:43, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
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Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas, Coola'! Here's a lovely tiny little rabbit for your consideration. Rebbing 19:44, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
- Yaaaay!! bunnies!! Hippity, hoppity, hop, hip, hop. Coolabahapple (talk) 02:13, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
Happy Holidays!
Hey! I am slowly working my way back into Wikipedia after a major life change--several in a very short period of time, actually--and an unfortunate falling out with WikiEdu after a conference in Washington D.C. Regardless, my self enforced "time out" is drawing to a close. Have a happy holiday of choice! I will see you around soon. Cheers, HullIntegrity\ talk / 02:32, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
- great to hear from you hull, hope to see you around the wikiworld soon. Coolabahapple (talk) 00:47, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
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- thanks Chris :)) Coolabahapple (talk) 06:06, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
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Categories for fiction
I noticed that you have added "Category: [Year] in fiction" to a few articles lately, but these categories are actually for works set in the given year, not published in that year. (Unlike the articles "[Year] in literature", which are for works published in that year.) I can do some fixing later, when I'm more awake. It's nice to see some more articles on David Almond books, by the way – he is an excellent writer. Robina Fox (talk) 01:08, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
- Hi Robina Fox, sorry about that, i will fix them up shortly, btw would it be appropriate to have a cat for Almond ie. "
WorksBooks by David Almond", also, i've added a alot of books illustrated by Jerry Pinkney, can there be a cat called "WorksBooks illustrated by Jerry Pinkney"?, (although there doesn't seem to be any specific cats for people who illustrate books), ps. why are there some cats called "Works on ..." and others called "Works about ..." (sorry, but i can't see there is any real difference between the two, just a little annoying to enter them to find the right cat:)), pps. is there a keyword search possible with hotcat or is it a case of scanning/second guessing how the cats are worded? thanks, Coolabahapple (talk) 02:46, 11 January 2017 (UTC)- something else, i see there is a "Cats in literature" and "Dogs in literature" and "Cattle in literature" cats, but no "
BunniesRabbits in literature" (although there is "Fictional hares and rabbits" or "Tigers in literature", could we have say "Big cats in literature" and then break out to lions, tigers, leopards and so on as required? also, there is "Animal tales", "Novels about animals", and "Animals in popular culture" but no "Animals in literature" or "Books about animals", while some subjects do have these cats, aaarrrgghh!!, the apparent inconsistency of cats and cat hierarchy is all very confusing. (i could start creating these cats but don't want to raise the ire of more experienced wikicateditors), thanks. ps. Almond is a great writer! Coolabahapple (talk) 05:54, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
- something else, i see there is a "Cats in literature" and "Dogs in literature" and "Cattle in literature" cats, but no "
- Hi Robina Fox, have removed from all the articles i have created that have "Category: [Year] in fiction":) Coolabahapple (talk) 10:16, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
- That's great! I agree the categories are far from systematic. I imagine this came about partly because editors often create categories for their own articles. Also sometimes reluctance to create new categories leads to categories being assigned rather loosely. I've taken a couple of shots at improving categorization, but it's a frustrating business. It would be possible to correct the "Works on/Works about.." issue with soft category redirects. I don't think you'd be reading on any toes by creating categories or adding "See also" cross-references. "Animals in literature" seems particularly useful; "Works (etc) by David Almond" is fine, though as there isn't a set of categories for "Books illustrated by..." it might be better to leave that information to Jerry Pinkney's biography page. Good luck! -- Robina Fox (talk) 21:00, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
Randall Hicks
Thanks for commenting to keep my article "Brian Wiprud." You clearly understand authors and books. Would you mind looking at another article I did, "Randall Hicks." The same person initially marked it for deletion for similar reasons, which I don't feel is appropriate. Thanks. From Gelo962 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gelo962 (talk • contribs) 23:55, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
- Hi Gelo962, i have looked at the article on Hicks and have added by 2c worth at the afd. Coolabahapple (talk) 03:47, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks so much for taking the time to check out the Randall Hicks article. Appreciated. Have a great day. Gelo962 (talk) 23:20, 27 January 2017 (UTC)Gelo962
- Can you take a second look at Randall Hicks? Have I missed something there?E.M.Gregory (talk) 00:58, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- have responded there, thanks. Coolabahapple (talk) 13:27, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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- hi E.M.Gregory, thanks for the barnsey, i couldn't let that afd go without "articlising(?)" one of Schonstein's books:)) Coolabahapple (talk) 13:39, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi Coolabhapple. Thanks for your encouragement. I don't know anyone in the editing side of Wikipedia so I hope it is okay to ask you a question. The good news is all three of my articles (Randall Hicks, Brian Wiprud and Laurence Shames), all mystery writers, have passed through the deletion stage and that's over. I wish only people who are familiar with a field would make comments about noteability, as no one in myster/detective fiction would have thought that. But the right result got reached. My question is the Randall Hicks article still has a "close connection" tag at the top which is annoying. I don't have a close connection to him and several people have edited the article besides me. How does it get removed? Thanks. I hope this is the right way to reach you. Gelo962 (talk) 21:50, 12 February 2017 (UTC)Gelo962
- Hi Gelo962, i have removed the coi tag as i believe that any possible issues have been resolved. ps. if you want to message an editor please add it on their talkpage by pressing the 'New section' tab at the top of the talkpage, thanks, pps. as a bookfan it can be difficult to not get carried away with praising a book/author, just remember to regularly revisit WP:NPOV and WP:RS when creating the article and you should be fine. Coolabahapple (talk) 07:47, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks!
Thanks for the assistance. I am feeling like a Wikipedia pro with my little three article, with more to come. Thanks so much and have a great day. Gelo962 (talk) 21:39, 14 February 2017 (UTC)Gelo962
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Invitation to Women in Red's Role Models editathon on Women Role Models
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Please could you also add AFD lists for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Snakes in Suits in a similar way to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Psychopathy in the workplace ? They are closely related.--Penbat (talk) 09:03, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- :hi Penbat, sorry about that, as a wikikit, i get easily distracted and also take frequent catnaps, have now added it to various afd lists Coolabahapple (talk) 14:19, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
Just a little Wikilove for being a fellow Wikipedian ♥
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- Hi Gwendy, thanks for the cute kitten Coolabahapple (talk) 01:17, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
- You are so welcome! If I'm being honest, I prefer pictures of kittens to actual kittens. They're pretty scratchy. – gwendy (talk) 01:32, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
Hi, I need some help
Hi, I am currently editing articles of the 4 books in the Treasure Hunters series namely Treasure Hunters (book), Treasure Hunters: Danger Down the Nile, Treasure Hunters: Secret of the Forbidden City and Treasure Hunters: Peril at the Top of the World. Now the things is, I am trying to expand the reception section, of this article but am unable to find any by doing Google search. I recently came across the article God Loves Hair, in which you expanded the Reception section greatly. So please, when you have time, please trying to expand Reception and create it where it is a sent. Will appreciate it a lot. THANKSKing Prithviraj II (talk) 19:53, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
- Hi King Prithviraj II, what i will do is explain how i go about it, using Treasure Hunters (book) (i will refer to it as TH1) as an example, then, if you wish, you can fill in its 'reception' and do the same for the other books (it will be good practice:)), so:
- -1st i check Worldcat (use the book tab), although it is not useable for notability, if the book comes up with pleny of library holdings and/or editions than that is a pretty good indication that there will be reviews out there, TH1 shows lots of copies (although some may be for other books in the series) so that is great:);
- -next is a look at LibraryThing, also cannot be used for notability but can point to book awards, doesn't show any awards for TH1, but shows the book is pretty popular
- -then i use some US regional library sites to check for reviews, King County Library System site, Washington County Cooperative Library Services site, and Buffalo & Erie County Public Library site are very good, but there are probably others, (also quite often they have the same reviews but sometimes one site will have different ones).
- kcls shows reviews by Kirkus Reviews, Publishers Weekly, and Booklist,
- wccls shows the same,
- Buffalo has Booklist and Publishers Weekly.
- so there are 3 different reviews, enough for WP:NBOOK, but they are 'trade reviews' (see ** below).
- -now to the goog:), i enter the name of the book "by" author "book reviews" and look at up to the first 10 pages of hits so for Treasure Hunters it is: "Treasure Hunters by james patterson book reviews" we get:
- on page 1 reviews by Common Sense Media - Treasure Hunters, Publishers Weekly - Treasure Hunters, Kirkus Reviews - Treasure Hunters,
- on page 2 the Daily Echo - Children's book review(a children's book review so may be deemed not useable), and The New York Times - Daring Deeds(woohoo!, a lot of editors lurv books that have a NYT review), so there are enough reviews for a good 'Reception'.
Some things to consider:
- not all ghits will take you to full reviews, some may just be snips and/or behind paywalls but you can still say "was reviewed by ...".
- i also take a look at the author site (and illustrator's site if relevant), again can't be used for the article (except maybe 'website' in the infobox and in the 'External links' section) as WP:COI and/or WP:PROMOTION but could list reviews and awards (can be very difficult to find them, and some/most may be unsuitable to use in the article).
- -**there are some editors that are uncomfortable about using some of these reviews as they are seen as 'trade' reviews ie. aimed at libraries, educators, and retail booksellers (although WP:NBOOK does not preclude them) so i am happier when creating a book article if there is also at least one review from another type of source ie. a notable newspaper or magazine, and that it has received award(s)
- the EBSCO site is also good, although it doesn't show the actual review/article it can have good stuff eg. it shows that TH1 was a bestseller - here and here.
hope this helps, and have fun with your editing.Coolabahapple (talk) 16:11, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks a ton :)King Prithviraj II (talk) 16:27, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
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- thanks so much for the torte, i will enjoy it with a cup of tea at elevenses. Coolabahapple (talk) 10:39, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
Note
Coolabahapple, thank you for your participation at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Plot to Hack America. Please note, the nominator is WP:WIKIHOUNDING me, and has produced zero evidence to back up his spurious claims about that particular book review source, which are falsehoods, in an attempt to delete everything I have written. Please see comments by an admin about his behavior, at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Defeating ISIS. Sagecandor (talk) 16:28, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
- hi Sagecandor, thanks, have left a comment at the afd. Coolabahapple (talk) 23:28, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
- Replied. Sagecandor (talk) 23:30, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
- @Coolabahapple:The claims by the nominator are false. Please see this fact from Publishers Weekly about New York Journal of Books: "No one associated with the site is being paid". Sagecandor (talk) 13:51, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
- Replied. Sagecandor (talk) 23:30, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
- hi Sagecandor, thanks, have left a comment at the afd. Coolabahapple (talk) 23:28, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
Strategy Cycle 2
As the strategy discussion draws to an end - any thoughts or feedback? please feel free to email me or message on talk page if - whichever you wish - as to how you feel about the 5 themes and the general ambience of the strategy programme JarrahTree 11:15, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
sorry hadnt given the link
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017 the cycle 2 of the broader wikimedia strategy -
You may well have responded elsewhere - but if you at all interested - not the slightest bother if you are not - please feel free to contact on or off wiki - thanks JarrahTree 13:44, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
- thanks for the heads up, it looks like everything is good, ie. i agree with the sentiments stated. Coolabahapple (talk) 08:53, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
We need a champion, my friend
Hi Coolabahapple! Thank you for your recent constructive input to a page created by the Women in Red Project. The page is now being wikihounded by a singular editor, and is at risk of deletion, with no other experienced editors engaging in the page. Sending this note in hopes that you may join the conversation, and be a potential champion for a valuable woman's voice. Thanks for all the good you do! A-voice-for-women (talk) 13:05, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
- Hi A-voice-for-women, i have removed the speedy delete tag, please see Chestney's talkpage.
- Coolabahapple, many thanks! Much appreciated!A-voice-for-women (talk) 16:16, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
- "A-voice-for-women" has posted similar messages asking for support to six user talk pages. She is a new editor, and therefore presumably didn't know that this was contrary to Wikipedia:Canvassing, so I have posted to her talk page to let her know. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 21:33, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
Discussion at Talk:Khayyam Street#Proposed content
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Khayyam Street#Proposed content. —usernamekiran(talk) 12:11, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
- hi Usernamekiran, i have added a point there (and added a see also/wikilink to Park-e Shahr in the article:)). Coolabahapple (talk) 13:12, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Can you help Carol Smallwood?
She asked me to do the following on my talk page, but I don't really understand what she wants. I only linked to a discussion that was supposed to help her. Thanks.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 20:38, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
- ---
Please add a new review http://www.compulsivereader.com/2017/08/01/a-review-of-prisms-particles-and-refractions-by-carol-smallwood/
Please clean up my entry about an article conflict. Like the one above, they have been reviewed by editors about relationships.
Thank you for volunteering!Carol Smallwood (talk) 20:15, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
Since the entry is about me, I don't believe I can change it. It mentions an article but do not know which it is.Carol Smallwood (talk) 20:28, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
- Hi Carol Smallwood and Vchimpanzee, i have had a look at the book review site Compulsive Reader, and decided against adding the Prisms, Particles, and Refractions review to the Carol Smallwood article. i am concerned that the review and the site may not meet WP:SOURCE (i know there are wikiarticles that have included review(s) from this site, if i came across an article with one i would, at the very least, remove it from the article to the talkpage with a query/voicing my concern), it appears, from its Do You Want to Submit a Review? section, that anyone can submit a review, as long as it is "analytical, specific, and quite detailed. Plot summaries or reviews that are little more than promotional blurbs won’t be accepted.", also that "Although we are unable to offer monetary compensation for your reviews and articles at this time, we will provide all contributors with a generous author bio including unlimited links. Regular contributors are also featured in the “Who are We” section of our site and are offered a selection of books to review, on approval." that could raise WP:COI and WP:PROMOTION issues.Coolabahapple (talk) 10:47, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks. Maybe you could post on her talk page because she keeps asking me to do things that can't be done.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 19:37, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
A pie for you!
Just a little note WP:FILEUPLOADWIZARD very helpful for adding covers to book articles. It is okay to use jpgs from the web, no need to take a photo of the book. Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 20:39, 9 August 2017 (UTC) |
- thanks for the info:))Coolabahapple (talk) 10:51, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
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- Thanks!Coolabahapple (talk) 07:22, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
Thanks!
Hi Coolabahapple, thank you for your comments at my RfA. Your support is much appreciated! ansh666 21:43, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
- Heya, have you thought about going for an RfA yourself? I see you around at AfD all the time. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 22:08, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
- wow, a sincere thankyou Ritchie333, but this little wikikit is happy to muddle along as is, thanks again. Coolabahapple (talk) 12:36, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
Hi. Thankyou for your participation in the challenge series or/and contests. In November The Women in Red World Contest is being held to try to produce new articles for as many countries worldwide and occupations as possible. There will be over $4000 in prizes to win, including Amazon vouchers and paid subscriptions. If this would appeal to you and you think you'd be interested in contributing new articles on women during this month for your region or wherever please sign up in the participants section. If you're not interested in prize money yourself but are willing to participate and raise money to buy books about women for others to use, this is also fine. Thankyou, and if taking part, good luck!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:52, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
Hyphens and en rules
To simplify, the hyphen (-) goes between letters and the en rule (–) goes between spaces or between numerals. If you haven't got the en rule on your keyboard, it's the first entry under "Wiki markup" just below the editing section. As it is I'm following you round correcting your "[year] in literature" contributions instead of doing something more useful. Thanks in advance, Brian Bmcln1 (talk) 14:13, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
- hi Bmcln1, sorry about that, and thanks for pointing this out to me, so with this endash thing it looks like this: "Coola has been a pain in the ... – lalala" will use this in the future. Coolabahapple (talk) 14:59, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
- No problem, and I forgot to say you've added some excellent books to the pages. Cordially, Brian Bmcln1 (talk) 18:00, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
thanks
for the thanks. Artix (Message wall) 02:43, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
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- thanks!:)Coolabahapple (talk) 14:18, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
Bunny!
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- no i didn't bot, it is not a disambig page, that has (disambiguation) in its title. Coolabahapple (talk) 09:52, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
Hi. I wonder if you think the current incarnation of this bio passes muster? Castlemate (talk) 23:35, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for your support but I give up. The comments of the last few days suggest I am in the wrong community. I can't be bothered any more to deal with the attitude inherent in this attack. CheersCastlemate (talk) 18:51, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
- hi Castlemate, sorry about this, i wish you well and hope that you reconsider and may come back in the future....Coolabahapple (talk) 00:51, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for your support but I give up. The comments of the last few days suggest I am in the wrong community. I can't be bothered any more to deal with the attitude inherent in this attack. CheersCastlemate (talk) 18:51, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
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- thanks K.e.coffman, appreciate the sentiment. Coolabahapple (talk) 12:49, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
AfD comment
Just as a followup to this comment which I just now saw after the AfD closed, promotionalism is actually in the reason for deletion twice: both WP:DEL4 and WP:DEL14. The community can make a judgement to delete based on any NOT failure they want per WP:WHATISTOBEDONE, and this is becoming common with promotion. TonyBallioni (talk) 00:00, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
- hi TonyBallioni, thanks for the explanation/information. Coolabahapple (talk) 06:46, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
my foolish edit
Plip!
microtrouting myself for my foolish edit reversion here that was subsequently reverted by Strongjam (though as a wikikit, this could actually be seen as a reward .... munch, munch, munch ). Coolabahapple (talk) 22:22, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
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- thanks Megalibrarygirl, this festive season i have been trying not to be a bad person or there will be no soup for me:)) Coolabahapple (talk) 12:13, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
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- thanks:)Coolabahapple (talk) 12:18, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
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Merry Christmas Coolabahapple!!
Hi Coolabahapple, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year,
Thanks for all your help and contributions on the 'pedia! ,
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- thanks, Davey Coolabahapple (talk) 12:45, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
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- and a Nollaig Chridheil agus Bliadhna Mhath Ùr to you, CAPTAIN RAJU :) Coolabahapple (talk) 12:52, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
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- thanks Chris troutman, lets hope the happy chaos reflected in the festive wikiglobe above continues throughout the year:)) Coolabahapple (talk) 13:00, 29 December 2017 (UTC)