User talk:Casliber/Archive 24

Vital medicine

Hya Cas, i know you're very busy, but Lactarius chrysorrheus could do with a small dose of your taxon to cure a very thin section. Spontaneus human combustion is an urban myth...innit?? Luridiformis (talk) 09:01, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Moon of Pejeng

On 12 March, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Moon of Pejeng, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thanks for nominating, PeterSymonds (talk) 10:08, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Ditto; terima kasih. fyi; due between March 17th and 23rd ;) Cheers, Jack Merridew 12:04, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

The 13th

Hey Cas, sorry to see you can't make it to the Powerhouse tomorrow. Your expertise would have proven useful, I'm sure. ;) —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 10:49, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Believe me I know, but I am stuck with work. I also dobbed you into someone hehehehe (ask PM and Witty Lama) Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:57, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh, PM intends to come? I thought he was still a bit on the unsure side. But I'll definitely ask Witty what you're on about... *eyes suspiciously*. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 11:16, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

unsure slid into 'not possible' I'm afraid :-( - but I have an idea what Cas is talking about..... ;-) - I've been sniffing around some contributions to see how it went this arvo, but haven't found any yet - maybe it sort of morphed into something else? (or maybe several wiki volunteers are locked up in the Powerhouse Vault! That's what they were up to - looking for another exhibit!.... who knows.......) cheers, Privatemusings (talk) 05:51, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Lion

Hey, Cas; Lion is prominently figuring at Wikipedia:Featured articles/Cleanup listing. Since Marskell isn't around, do you think you can enlist some editors to clean it up? One of the most discouraging aspects of the FAC job has been the realization of how quickly they deteriorate-- I sure hate to see what has happened to that one. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:29, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Pretty minor really - a couple of tags which I fixed. Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:59, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

There's still a citation tag in the "Man-eaters" section. Looking good! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:09, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Bugger. It is morning here and my solitude has been interrupted :( Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:22, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I can't wait until we have a show/hide inline refs function. fixed. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:30, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Is there anything left to do I might be able to help with? —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 22:27, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

I got all four cite tags - you are more than welcome to compare the current version with the c. Sept 2007 version and see if anything else stands out as poorly written, contradictory or other wise odd. I'd appreciate that as I have gotten myself enmired in something else and haev limited time - thanks for the offer. Sorry I haven't helped more with quark, this is a great task you've set yourself and we need to see that one through too. Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:30, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to compare the featured rev and then the current one, see what's changed there. And no problem, don't even consider it; the sheer quality and amount of featured content you've been producing is incredible, and you're to be congratulated for that. :) —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 00:00, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Cool, anything interesting turns up, we can discuss at lion talk page. It is funny watching high traffic Featured Articles 'erode' over time. Great thing about FAC is we have an instant reference point to go back to. Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Dragonlance GA

Hey there! Just letting you know that we have nominated Dragonlance to be a Good Article, and it is currently up for review. :) BOZ (talk) 00:22, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Russula fellea

On 15 March, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Russula fellea, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 13:10, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Russula fragilis

On 16 March, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Russula fragilis, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Dravecky (talk) 02:38, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Buckingham Palace

confident? YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 02:41, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Err...dunno...see waht happens :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:47, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Tnxman307 2

I just noticed (after looking at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Thumperward 2) an oppose !vote by GLFan151 (oppose #1), in which you indef blocked as a sock. Could you please strike that one out, as well, like you already did that with the Thumperward and Baseball Bugs RFAs? (He also !voted support at the Ceranthor RFA, but that is moot since it did not pass.) Thank you, MuZemike 16:22, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Good point, will fix. Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:16, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Happy Saint Patrick’s Day!

On behalf of the Wikipedia:Kindness Campaign, we just want to spread Wikipedia:WikiLove by wishing you a Happy Saint Patrick’s Day! Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 15:21, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Jakob Bogdani

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--Dravecky (talk) 05:17, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Camperdown Cemetery

Hi! Thanks for your help. I've got a blinking problem. I've put Chrys Meader's book down somewhere and can't find it in the mess! Chrys and I were trustees together, so if you've ever done a tour, it may well have been me that took it. What's the name of that lilyish thing with the iris-like flowers, grows in thick clumps with leaves that look like sword grass, but are soft? There is a lovely clump around a tree, and the ground nearby had dionella spreading out... Amandajm (talk) 08:54, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

I have not done a tour )heck, or have I?? Can't remember now). I have been interested in plants of the inner west and reorganised the list of plants here. Are you talking indigenous species? The only thing that comes to mind is Crinum pedunculatum (or is that too big?) Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:03, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Gyromitra esculenta

What a beautiful mushroom! Nice work. I look forward to more FAs on poisonous mushrooms. --BorgQueen (talk) 09:55, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

OK - PS: Amanita muscaria just Featured (>2 years after beginning to impriove it) :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:22, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

BLP concerns

Would this need to go through AfD in order to be deleted? Enigma^msg 02:13, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

I would think so. A quick google suggests there are some references from sources out there and a suggestion of notability. I would alert the Indian Wikiproject...but right now I need to eat some lunch. I suspect an AfD would not result in deletion, but might hasten the aggressive removal of unreferenced claims (or you could do that now). Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:20, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

It's a typical unreferenced and possibly defamatory BLP. I guess I could try and clean up every one out there, but I would need to get rid of all my responsibilities for the next week so I could edit Wikipedia all day, every day. :P Enigma^msg 02:22, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Ok, how's this? If totally unreferenced, add a Wikipedia:Proposed deletion tag, with a reason that it is bordering on defamatory (well it is if it is untrue) and notify anyone who may be interested (eg WP:India). If there are references, move mateiral that is unreferenced to the talk page.

PS: I feel much better after a luchtime snack of crispy skin pork, duck, rice and vegetables :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:59, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

OK, I PRODd it. Tag expires in less than a day. By the way, Royce Campbell. Can you figure out what to do with that one? Enigma^msg 06:39, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Lactarius chrysorrheus

On 20 March, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Lactarius chrysorrheus, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The nominators will inherit for they are blessed! Victuallers (talk) 18:02, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: ACID

thanks for the heads-up. –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 02:55, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

no probs, I was (and still am) hoping that this gets up a bit of steam and a few broader-type articles get to GA or FA...leaving me to do more of my other mob. Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:57, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

It should be fun. If nothing else, it'll be the first "important" article I've ever worked on (unless you consider a minor storm thousands of miles out in the Pacific or a 6-mile road important). –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 03:04, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

:) Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:06, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

radioactive user talk page...

Here, have one of these - 50k and five years...wow. congrats. Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:26, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks very much, Cas! :) I feel radioactive already! Hey, how are things going for you? What's new? Do you like the ArbCom? Firsfron of Ronchester 03:34, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

rather busy....but I did chisel out some time to revive WP:ACID to try and get editors to imporve some broader articles...PS: you did see Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Edmontosaurus? Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:37, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

I hadn't seen WP:ACID... It would be great to improve more articles. I did see Edmontosaurus, and am working a bit behind the scenes to add improvements as editors on the FAC suggest them. It's quite exciting to see J. nom another article! :) Firsfron of Ronchester 03:41, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Will do! Firsfron of Ronchester 23:35, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Some Arbs are sadly out of touch - or maybe it's me :)

Where have you been? And how did you get any results at all from wannabe_kate? It's dead, dead, dead - but still linked from a million places. I've been waging this war for several months now. Interiot left the scene long ago, and when I contacted them they asked where I got their contact information - so that they could remove their contact information. The wannabe_kate software used hardcoded namespaces (failed on the File: change), didn't use the API, and had a fall-through algorithm that counted anything not recognized as other-space as mainspace - I spotted at least one huge (non-Image:) miscount there, which is when I began the death-march. Dead, dead, dead. Shoot on sight. </rant>

For general counting, you can use real Kate (~river on the toolserver) or the generally accepted soxtool where I miss Interiots's Christmas-y red-and-green motif. And now that I look at it, sox was in on those supercession discussions but their output doesn't look as good as it used to. Strange how tools that people store links to and use regularly come and go with no great discussion. (And sorry for the rant, it's just 'cause I seemed to be the first to spot the wannabe_kate problems and start jumping up and down)

On the uContribs topic, noted. That's a whole 'nother subject of guilt where I feel an obligation to several people, I have to satisfy them in order, and I need to make software tweaks first and Oh God do documentation! If I bail on the upgrades, I will do the requests in order and notify you in turn. I just need to figure out these template/locator maps first, deal with a few minor disputes people are having, look at a new user who I've encouraged to contribute. Less than 40 things, I promise. Then uContribs, I promise ;) Maybe more than 40, but let me express my sincere desire. lol

Also, nice Arb'ing! Given your top article edits to lions, vampires, toxic mushrooms, mental illness &c, I was seriously thinking of calling in Bishzilla for a cage match. You would have multiple avenues of attack OTOH I still haven't stretched my window large enough that Bish wouldn't fill it completely. :) Franamax (talk) 05:57, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

hah, thanks for the reply - look forward to souped up ucontribs :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:54, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

edit links on your user page

First poke; I did 'Articles' and 'DYK'. On 'Articles' you have 'show' the box to see the edit link (which is built into the subpage), on 'DYK' the link is in the main page and always shows. Which way you like? It will be easy to do them all either way. nb: some talk page stalker may offer a canned tool to do this; I couldn't use tnavbar as it assumes template space. Cleanest route would probably be to use real headers and let MediaWiki generate the links but your page has momentum in other directions. Cheers, Jack Merridew 08:19, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Cool. either way is ok. Like DYK is probably best. Hurriedly, thx ++, Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:16, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

 Done. Cheers, Jack Merridew 13:34, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Fantastic, much appreciated...now for some shut-eye. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:41, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

fyi; other large chunks could be split-off to subpages, the two sections of the right column, for example. The main body content, too. Let me know. Cheers, Jack Merridew 14:11, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Oversight help

Hi. I had sent a request for oversight assistance two or three hours ago and am basically waiting up to see if it brings a response or there is anything I need to add. I noted you are listed on oversight and thought I'd ask if there is anything you can do about it. This situation is quite upsetting. I'd be glad to send a copy of my oversight email. Thanks. Wildhartlivie (talk) 11:01, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

dyk

It ain't the most exciting hook, but I can't think of anything better myself. I made a distribution map for it. Hesperian 11:11, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

About barley

I left you note here. I've also started a stub on Murri (condiment) which you may find interesting. I'll try to add some stuff to Barley, but if you find yourself getting impatient, feel free to mine the sources I linked to yourself. Tiamut^talk 11:44, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for that - I see a T:TDYK nomination a-comin' for Murri (condiment)....Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:49, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Four Award

		Four Award
		Congratulations! You have been awarded the Four Award for your work all through on Amanita ocreata.

♠TomasBat 12:53, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Nice design! Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:08, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

New mushroom articles

There's been new mushrooms article popping up on DYK and, how to say it... they leave somewhat to be desired. That's the third time at least that I fix glaring authority errors (I think they just copy-pasted it from another 'box!) and some really weird use of the taxobox (e.g. slotting the species in the "type species" of a genus format at Agaricus lilaceps). Just saying so you may want to keep an eye out from time to time. Circeus (talk) 01:02, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Aha, a new person....ok, wil have a look. Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:21, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

GFDL question

Hi. I left a WP:GFDL question at User talk:A Nobody/Archive 11#Next time.., regarding the Neopets content. Thanks. Flatscan (talk) 04:31, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Please excuse my interjection: isn't unattributable content incompatible with WP:GFDL? I recently approached an admin concerning a similar situation (content from a deleted article, but via Google Cache), and he blanked the content in question. Flatscan (talk) 05:05, 21 March 2009 (UTC) —copied for convenience Flatscan (talk) 05:48, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Would you answer my question or refer me to an appropriate alternative, such as Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)? Thanks. Flatscan (talk) 23:47, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

what do you mean unattributable content? Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:50, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I mean content that cannot be attributed to its original contributor. Deleted content is the most common example, since the edit history is only viewable by administrators. I can find relevant discussion links, if they would be helpful. Flatscan (talk) 00:02, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I am not sure what you are getting at here - are you talking about a blanket ban on userfied material, or undeleting of deleted material to work on? Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:26, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Blanket bans on neither, actually. My objection is with 1) history-deleting content and 2) copying it elsewhere without undeleting.
The best single page covering the issue is WP:Merge and delete. It's an essay, but the interpretation of the GFDL described – that the entire history must be available – has been affirmed in discussions, including one from Dec 2008 (related: 1 2 3 4) and this very recent one.
I am aware that some (perhaps most) admins userfy by viewing the deleted source and copy/pasting the last revision. If/when the content is moved back into article space, history merging the two versions satisfies GFDL. However, WP:Userfication#Userfication of deleted content specifies that the page should be undeleted and moved, which keeps the user space article compliant. Flatscan (talk) 04:26, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

OK, gotcha now. I agree, and this is what I have done in the past, and most recently again here at Food street which was deleted last year after an AfD to delete, and then recreated and seems to fulfil notability and is completely different. I recreated old material. I have also restored and then Moved to userspace to preserve history when userfying. Now I have to read the diffs to see where the problem is. Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:42, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Aaah bother. You are right - this was one time where I didn't, but I wasn't sure if a history merge on the two pages would work. Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:44, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

It's good that we're on the same page now. I probably should have provided a diff identifying the exact edit sooner. I think it's easiest to blank the pasted section Talk:Neopets#List material moved from deleted page, but undeleting and moving to a subpage of Talk:Neopets would work also. Flatscan (talk) 02:33, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

I got your userfication note. Thanks for your help and continued patience. Happy editing! Flatscan (talk) 04:09, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK help

Dear Cas, can you help this fact become a DYK? Thanks! Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 17:53, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Oakdale, Texas — The problem with TV cruft

See the 'article' — and note that there is, in fact, a real Oakdale, Texas. It would seem to be little more than a neighborhood, but it has a postal code (75931), and Google knows it. So does the Texas State Historical Association; Handbook of Texas Online - OAKDALE, TX. Cheers, Jack Merridew 09:16, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

• see also; Oakdale, Texas (Wishbone TV series) Cheers, Jack Merridew 08:18, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

• hmmm....fireworks would not be a good idea at present...Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:28, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

• the 'source' for most of that would appear to be this;
  • http://www.wwwishbone.com/html/oakdale/oakdale.asp
• Cheers, Jack Merridew 08:47, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Help proofreading

I am working on a list and wanted to know if you would proofread the text for me? If available, I would appreciate your feedback. Regardless, thank you for your help on wikipedia. kilbad (talk) 17:34, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Fixation bordering on harassment and escalation of tensions by User:Jack Merridew

Dear Casliber, although I am trying to avoid this editor, he is retaining a disruptive fixation on me that includes leaving messages about "cruft" on my talk page and in multiple venues mischaracterizing my edits and referring to me by my old username, including in a mocking manner. JM was unblocked so that he could make constructive edits, not refer to editors by their old usernames. I don't refer to him by his old usernames and in my case I changed names for a serious reason. Not long after his being unblocked he was warned to not refer to me by the old username. I therefore believe that he is violating the arbcom agreement by watching my edits, ignoring my and others appeals that I be referred to as "A Nobody" only and leaving unwelcome messages to me as well. Like I am going to respond to someone on my talk page who is taking a laughing tone toward me elsewhere? Please reign him in. I will start an ANI thread or something if necessary, but I am here to edit, not be harassed. Thank you for your time and consideration. Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 17:42, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

R-t Diver

Hi Cas: Just back from three back to back trips (Mexico, Sri Lanka, Costa Rica) but now should have the time to polish it up before month's end. I'll need some eyeballs to have a look before I send it off to GAC—care to volunteer?! :) MeegsC | Talk 20:32, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Wow, great trip. Will have a once-over. Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:41, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Banksia lindleyana

On March 25, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Banksia lindleyana, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 09:28, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Meetup time again

Hi all, it's Meetup time again :-) - Hopefully you'll be up for meeting on April 22nd at about 6pm at The Paragon, a pub in Circular Quay. It'll be the usual round of drinks and chit chats, with no particular agenda, just some friendly faces, and a shared interest in Wiki stuff. If you've thought about coming along before, but haven't made it - we'd love to see you - it'll be a relaxed, social chin wag about all things wiki - bring anyone along you fancy, and I hope you can make it :-)

Please do sign up on the meetup page, and do also feel free to nominate an alternative time / date / location if for whatever reason the 21st doesn't work for you - we're an accommodating bunch :-) cheers, Privatemusings (talk) 04:10, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

id

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Plants#IDs_2. Hesperian 10:47, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

I noticed you are a psychiatrist

Hi, I was just reading the schizophrenia page and noticed this section Schizophrenia#Drugs, where it claims that there is little evidence to suggest that drugs of abuse other than cannabis is related with causing psychosis. Although it was a review paper I find what they state very dubious. This reference suggests an 800% increased risk in men and 300% increased risk in women (cannabis abuse only suggests a 40% increased risk). This review also mentions schizophrenia specifically in regards to alcohol. What about LSD and magic mushrooms, much more potent hallucinogens than cannabis, are they relatively safe in terms of not triggering psychosis? Or amphetamines, particularly neurotoxic methamphetamine? Chronic ketamine and/or PCP (aka angel dust) are other drugs associated with psychosis. I dunno, I just feel that that section is very misleading to patient and health professional alike, but it is backed up by a review paper. I don't have the full text paper so I can't say how they reached there conclusions. Anyway I noticed that you were a psychiatrist, so I thought that I would discuss this with you first before. My feeling is that the research grants are mostly getting granted for cannabis psychosis related research and the journals and media are focusing on cannabis to the exclusion of other worse drugs which also cause psychosis or even sometimes permanent brain damage. What are your thoughts? Should it be challenged? I am hesitent to challenge the statement in the article after getting in such a big debate on the major depressive article.--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 11:26, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

I can only talk about what we see here clinically in Australia - the commonness of marijuana and amphetamines and the pattern of use (i.e. much more frequently that things like LSD), mean they are the substances most commonly seen associated with entities such as drug induced psychosis. This is a hotly debated topic in psychiatry as to whether these drugs cause psychosis or whether those who go onto develop schizophrenia would have anyway. Then again, given a stress model, stressors are ubiquitous so maybe that means yes...or no.

There is a clear consensus that use of these drugs makes the course of the illness worse.

One way to discuss the subject with as much consensus as possible would be to improve the psychosis article (which was a Featured Article once), where entities such as drug use, drug induced psychosis and schizophrenia can be really gone into detail. Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:36, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

I am aware of the debate surrounding cannabis. I have known people to have become psychotic from heavy duty cannabis use but mostly they recovered after a few weeks to months of abstinence. I do believe though that alcohol is more destructive to mental health than cannabis so I do have a bit of bias there in my viewpoint. I was just reading again the cited reference and this is what it says, "There is evidence to suggest that cannabis may have a causal role in the development of psychopathology but not for other substances." They actually use the word psychopathology, so what they are saying is all other drugs of abuse have no adverse effects on mental health except for cannabis. Psychopathology if I am correct covers any aspect of mental illness, not just schizophrenia. I wonder were the review authors suffering from cannabis induced psychosis. :) I just don't see how they could review the literature and come to the conclusion that only cannabis has bad effects on mental health. I agree with the consensus that cannabis would make paranoid states worse and should be avoided in people with psychotic disorders. I made a few tweaks to the psychosis article and added some info on alcohol related psychosis. I also found this reference about alcoholic psychosis (which apparently doesn't exist according to schizophrenia wiki article as only cannabis is bad for mental health) having the potential to being misdiagnosed as schizophrenia.[1] I dunno may be I am getting too enthusiastic about all this wiki editing, I hope I am not bothering you with this.--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 15:08, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Alcoholic hallucinosis was a name for alcohol-related psychosis used by older psychiatrists which didn't enter DSM IV specifically. You do see it occasionally but nothing like the frequency with cannabis or amphetamine. I'll take a look. Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:49, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Schizophrenia is a type of psychosis, so perhaps the persisting amphetamine psychosis alcoholic hallucinosis would be classified differently but just the statement that other drugs don't cause psychosis bothers me in the schizophrenia article. Maybe I should just bring it up on the talk page. Thank you for your time.--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 20:13, 26 March 2009 (UTC) and/or alco

Ms. van der Linde

Hi, Cas. You referred to Kim van der Linde as "him", but here's a picture. —JerryFriedman (Talk) 21:44, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Oops :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:15, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Peer reviewing

I suspect that you are now very busy with ArbCom matters, but I spotted your name near the top of WP:Peer review/volunteers#Natural sciences and wondered if you are still reviewing? I'm hoping to take Oxygen toxicity as my first try at FAC, but I'm a scuba diver, not a medic and would really appreciate some constructive criticism. If you don't have time for this, I fully understand, but would you have any thoughts on someone else sympathetic I could ask? Or is it best to just list the article at WP:Peer review? Thanks in advance for any advice. --RexxS (talk) 23:02, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

I will have a look but noting it at WT:MED might be more help too. Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:09, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks very much; I've asked at WT:MED now - much appreciated! --RexxS (talk) 23:27, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Sockpuppet allegation by User:Pixelface

fyi,

• Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Bad faith and baseless accusations by User:Pixelface

Cheers, Jack Merridew 04:19, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Inedible mushrooms

I have nominated Category:Inedible mushrooms (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for renaming to Category:Inedible fungi (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. J Milburn (talk) 16:53, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Fictional character DYK, Good, and Featured drive suggestion

Hello! Please see User_talk:Pixelface#Something_different_to_work_on as I believe you can perhaps be helpful in these efforts! For example, what about with this? As you can see I expanded the article considerably? Could we ask, "Did you know that Will Kane's was Gary Cooper's second Academy Award winning role?" or "Did you know that Will Kane is ranked fourteenth on Entertainment Weeklys list of Top 20 Heroes of all time?" Thanks! Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 18:14, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Snuppy

Hi, I just wanted to thank you for the review. I had been meaning to do some more work on it but couldn't find the time. Cheers, ~ Ameliorate! 02:12, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Man, I can't get over that photo of the two dogs together...just amazing....Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:24, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Murri (condiment)

On 28 March, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Murri (condiment), which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 02:59, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

question

Hi,

Would you be interested in volunteering some time and expertise to help the Wikimedia Foundation in a collaboration with the National Institutes of Health? I unfortunately do not have a lot of details to give at this time, but in short, I'm looking for a group of Wikimedians (primarily US or UK based, but that's not a requirement) that have interest or expertise in various medical fields, to help participate in a Wikimedia Academy event with the NIH. Even if you don't think you'd be able to attend the event, but would be interested in helping out online in any capacity, I'd love to hear back from you. Please leave a message on my talk page at User talk:Swatjester if you are interested. Thank you. ⇒SWATJester ^{Son of the Defender} 14:57, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Lorazepam

You undo my edit when I'd merely changed the absurd phrase "unborn baby" to the correct medical term: fetus. An article on a medication should use medical terms rather than forced-birth propaganda. 67.100.203.155 (talk) 18:00, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Remember this is a general encyclopedia for laypeople - I try to use lay terms where possible if meaning can be preserved. My view was thus in the revert and I had no intention of 'forced-birth propaganda'. Interesting point which is open for discussion I think. Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:10, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

See discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine#an_interesting_conundrum_-_fetus_vs_unborn_baby. Snowman (talk) 20:04, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

50k!

Congrats, Cas! :) Firsfron of Ronchester 19:25, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Banksia Spike

G'day Casliber, I have a pic of the spike on the WP:Plants page now. Noodle snacks (talk) 09:35, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Sonny Fai

Hi Cas - would you be able to jump on this grub, by any chance? This is his most recent contribution. Cheers,  florrie  14:30, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Done. Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:32, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Appreciated.  florrie  22:59, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Roosters and monkey brains

Reffed a lot of it, hopefully it will be daved nice and easily.... Monkey brain for arbcom lunch again eh??? pfft... These mind games are driving me nuts. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 05:02, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Discussion about AfD rules

Hi, Casliber, the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_deletion#Proposal_to_change_the_length_of_deletion_discussions_to_7_days seems to show overwhelming support. However I notice no names I recognise as admins. I think this is a serious gap since admins would have to implement any decision, and I'd also hope they'd raise any policy implications that might have escaped notice. It would be helpful if you could comment and ask a few other admins to comment. Please note this is not canvassing, as I have no idea how you will vote (if at all) and this is a request for info, not for a vote on any particular side. --Philcha (talk) 11:29, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Cyathus

Hi Cas, just wanted to drop a note and gently remind about the Cyathus FAC. The article has grown about 7k since you left those initial notes (mostly to appease TTT), and I'd greatly appreciate any additional comments or suggestions you might have. Thanks Sasata (talk) 16:16, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Peer review of genetic monitoring

Hello Casliber, I found your name as a volunteer peer-reviewer for Natural Sciences and wonder if you might have time to comment on a site I wrote on genetic monitoring. I would love to try to make it a FAC but am new to Wikipedia and I’d really appreciate any constructive criticism, however brief. No problem if you are snowed, however. The articles I’ve seen with your input- on humpback and blue whales and California condor for example, are really excellent! Many thanks for your time, cheers Jen —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jjack206 (talk • contribs) 17:14, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

April Fool's DYK for Glochidion ferdinandi

On April Fool's, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Glochidion ferdinandi, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thank you for your contribution to April Fool's Day 2009! Royalbroil 22:24, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for getting back to me so fast and taking a look. cheers (Jjack206 (talk) 09:01, 2 April 2009 (UTC))

Move

Could you move House of flowers to House of Flowers (over redirect)? Everyking (talk) 03:08, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Uh oh, it isn't a redirect but a disambiguation page :( - might it not be better at Kuća Cveća? Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:58, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Maybe, but aren't English translations preferred? "House of Flowers (Belgrade)" could be used. Everyking (talk) 04:31, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Not sure..I think it goes on a case by case basis - might be worth a discussion on WP:Serbia (is there one??) Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:39, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

As I suspected

I tried experimenting a little with what you suggested, but.[2]--Scott Mac (Doc) 11:15, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, you know what the next step is. I just posted at t'other place. I have another idea. Check my contribs. Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:25, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

A little note regarding something I think you'd be interested in...

Considering you're the creator of the Flaming Joel-wiki, I thought you may be interested to hear how utterly awesome it was to see Elton John and Billy Joel in concert. I've seen Billy before, back in '99. I think for his side of the show, his solo tour was better, as he treated it as an opportunity to do some storytelling, but there was definitely no lack of entertainment here. Elton John was amazing. Having grown up listening to his music, knowing it was old then (hahaha), I would have never imagined that I would get to see him perform live. Peforming duets, performing each other's songs... hard to put into words. If you have the opportunity to catch one of the shows in this Face-to-Face tour, I highly recommend it. Also, don't get floor seats. We would have enjoyed it more had we been up in the upper level, I believe. Hard to see with people standing in front of you, with no incline. :( لennavecia 14:34, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Depends how tall you are - I am 6'1" so usually height is no big deal and I can see easily, but in 1988 I did see Iggy Pop and was a row from teh stage jumping around like crazy, I swear the average height was about 6'5" (I was dwarfed! I never knew tall people preferentially liked Iggy!!) - best concert I saw though.

PS: Did Billy and Elton swap songs at all? Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:39, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

You know, on PBS a month or two ago they showed an old Billy Joel performance from the late 1970's, in a small club somewhere, that had been taped. He looked a bit edgy (a person less reverent of BLP might even say coked up), but he ran through The Entertainer, Only the Good Die Young, Movin' Out, and a few others - good stuff. I saw Iggy Pop in concert once. He called me a cocksucker. Well, he called the entire audience cocksuckers, but it was hard not to take it personally. MastCell ^Talk 18:45, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Gosh, I wonder whether he was not very sober when he said that...or maybe the audience was misbehaving...gotta think of these things.Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:53, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Request oversight

Hello! I was wondering if you could oversight this revision of Salvatore Rivieri: (revision#: 280116718)? It contains personal information of a controversial subject. Thanks so much for your help!--It's me...Sallicio!^{$\color {Red}\oplus$} 02:47, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

I found the one which had been deleted and I oversighted it. Was that the only one? Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:49, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

I think so... thanks (I'm sure the subject thanks you, too!)--It's me...Sallicio!^{$\color {Red}\oplus$} 03:00, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Cas!

For opening up a whole new area of wikipedia for me and letting people know about the site! : ) cheers! Jjack206 (talk) 13:20, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Map

Cas, I'm sorry about the map. I had hoped to do it but life has just been unrelenting. I'm hoping things get better or they just lay me off... I can't keep up this pace of work! But for now, the chances I'll get to that map in the next month are pretty remote :( --JayHenry (talk) 18:53, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Edit Help.. please??

Hey, i'm new to wikipedia and I've just recently uploaded my article on Muscina flies. I'm currently looking for editors who can do a quick edit to help me make the page a better Wikipedia article. If you could help me edit, I would be extremely greatful. If not, than that's okay too. If it's not asking too much, could you could maybe forward this message on to other veteran Wiki users who could help me edit I would be much obliged. --Hieu87 (talk) 19:55, 4 April 2009 (UTC)Hieu87

Curious about your opinion re: Ottava Rima's RFA

Hi, I don't know you personally, but many contributors whom I trust think highly of you. I have to say your support for administrator of someone who has such an attitude for the "paper-pushers" of WP leaves me a bit nonplussed. You mentioned in your support that there shouldn't be a division between content producers and administrators. But what about the division between content producers/administrators and wikignomes? I can't see how widening that gap helps the wiki.

Although it's been an unwritten rule that wikignomes are considered second class Wikipedians, it seems lately I've seen more and more concrete evidence confirming that fact. I'm seeing more editors saying gnomes do not contribute to the wiki and should never be admins. Well, I'm not much of a content writer. It doesn't come easy for me. But I care about WP. I care that the information that people access about science is accurate, and I work hard and use my brain to determine the value of edits. I think the major content producers in my milieu appreciate me, but it still hurts to see that I'm considered no more than a drone in general. I'd like to hear what you think. Thanks for your consideration, Aunt Entropy (talk) 17:07, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

My support was about whether or not OR would be a net positive with the tools. Yes he can be difficult sometimes (which he will no doubt agree with) and argumentative, yes he has been blocked. No I don't agree with some of the things he says. However, teh key is can he be trusted with the tools - in essence I do believe he has the best interest of the project at heart, and I strongly suspect that any misuse of tools would be noticed and commented on in about 5 seconds. There is a place of review for misuse of tools, and it is arbcom. So all in all I felt it was worth a go. I do not share his views on wikignomes, and greatly appreciate them from time to time :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:41, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your response (and the award, of course); I do appreciate your consideration for all of the contributors of WP. I guess we'll just agree to disagree on our particular criteria for adminship...I feel that the right attitude is most important criterion for the job, because adminship, whether we like it or not, is more than just the use of a few buttons. To the average editor who isn't "in the know" about wikispace goings-on, be it a jumping IP or most accounts under a thousand edits, an admin represents Wikipedia, a completely understandable assumption: in most places on the web, being a site administrator is a "Big Deal." Of course, if we were like everyone else, we wouldn't be so gol-dern speshul. :P Anyway, thanks again, and cheers... Aunt Entropy (talk) 22:44, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Peer review of larp article

Hey there. I notice on the peer review volunteers page you're up for reviewing roleplay articles "a bit". Would really appreciate your input on live action role-playing game at the peer review if it takes your fancy. Thanks, Ryan Paddy (talk) 01:04, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey!

Hey Cas, what's up? Just thought I'd pop by and see what you're up to. How are things with you? I see you haven't slowed down at all lol. I'm still over at WikiHow, but I've been kinda busy with real life stuff. My fiance and I split, which I'm still recovering from - we ended it mutually but she said she wasn't ready for a relationship and I couldn't keep her. Well, that's my groan lol - I really don't think I'll be coming back any time soon, but who knows... See ya Cas and keep up the good work. Spawn Man (talk) 12:26, 6 April 2009 (UTC). P.S. Please reply on my talk page if you want - my email is on the fritz.

Very sad to hear about the split, but better now than after kids are born, if that is any consolation. Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:28, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Red-winged Blackbird

I'll take a closer look tonight, but the breeding section needs major clarification. They are territorial yet colonial (huh?) polygamous yet pairs raise broods (huh?) and so on. No doubt it makes sense when I look at the sources, but it reads very badly now. Sabine's Sunbird talk 20:42, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I just have zero sources on it and thought it'd be an easy nudge over the GA line. Sorry to lay it on ya. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:47, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

re:map

Yep send the detials on over Gnangarra 01:04, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Thx - will email tonight. Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:25, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

MZM Rfar

A revision of your votes on Fof 4 variations would be appreciated. Ncmvocalist (talk) 17:15, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Bill May

You know, I am sure, that your semi-protection is against policy, but I don't expect, your believing our policy (and the practice from which it follows) to be wrong (for that position a consensus may soon exist, but it doesn't yet), that you intend to reverse yourself; am I correct to conclude, then, that one who disagrees with you here will need to go to RFPP? 68.248.226.45 (talk) 20:48, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Hmmmm (scratches chin a bit in wise manner)' .....maybe not, you can ask me nicely present a request to edit on the talk page - better yet, make an account :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:40, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Elizabeth A. Widjaja

poke. Cheers, Jack Merridew 12:39, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

My reputed grudge

I probably should have made a much more detailed oppose during your election to avoid the problem I'm having today. One of the things I look for in an arbitrator is the ability and tendency to ignore numerical advantage. You probably have the ability, but I see no signs that you have the tendency to do so. I strongly and firmly believe that arbitrators and admins should evaluate behaviour by comparing the behaviour to established guidelines and policies, and that consensus and notability should be evaluated by evaluating the arguments with respect to existing guidelines and policies. When I evaluated the notability of Bulbasaur, to trot out a well known example, I came to the conclusion that it fails our notability guideline. You treated my analysis as "ignoring consensus", and accused me of placing undue onus on supporters, despite that fact that I have spent hours searching for a reliable, independent source that analyzes Bulbasaur directly and in detail. The conclusion I have to draw is that you place a high value on the numeric quantity of supporters, and treat it as being as or more important than policies and guidelines. Your opposition to my stated intention to emphasise argument analysis over headcount in AFDs and to attempt to encourage editors to try to reach consensus based on policies and guidelines was simply the most convenient and recent example of this philosophical difference between us. Characterizing it as "not understanding WP:NOT#DEMOCRACY" was regrettably glib.—Kww(talk) 14:10, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

(a) amusing you call on numbers as deletionists usually outnumber inclusionists at AfD and have done for some time, and (b) I am not sure where you were looking for sources, but...never mind, this would involve me trawling through bookshops and libraries. The irony on my note on fuchs page was lost I see...you didn't get the joke, did you. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I got the joke on Fuchs's page, it was the comment on the RFA that caught my eye. A joke, perhaps, but this is serious business. I'm skating near 70%, and I've got a mix of legitimate opposes, opposes based on misunderstandings, and grudge-match opposes. The set of opposes based on my voting against you skate in-between ... I can see why people are opposing based on it, and sincerely wish I had phrased it differently.

Believe me, I trawled (online ... living on a small island, my access to physical libraries is non-existent). When I dig in my heels, it's not because I'm not listening, it's because I've made an argument and people assume I'm wrong but don't actually bother to refute it. The main problem is that Scholastic and a couple of others got licensing from Nintendo and then proceeded to publish, and publish, and publish. Basically eliminated the market for truly independent sourcing, but none of the licensed material is independent. Mainstream sourcing tends to cover "Pokemon" as a monolithic blob, and, if they choose to talk about any single beastie, it's Pikachu. Bulbasaur gets passing mentions, but never even so much as a paragraph truly discussing him.—Kww(talk) 14:40, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Birds April newsletter

The April 2009 issue of the Bird WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. MeegsC | Talk 15:29, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Peer review request

If you have any interest in taking a look at Spiritual use of cannabis, I would like to get some feedback on how this article can be improved towards WP:FAC standards. —Whig (talk) 03:45, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey I've really appreciated your contributions and I think you've made a number of big improvements. Thanks! —Whig (talk) 01:48, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Cyclochila australasiae

On April 9, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Cyclochila australasiae, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Shubinator (talk) 17:15, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Hesperornis

Excellent pun, sir! In regards to your query: a tad. The Bonehunters Revenge by D.R. Wallace mentions the discovery of a bird with teeth as particular interest to Marsh (a Darwinian) and was a major piece of evidence in his now prescient birds-dinosaurs link (especially as no one had found an Archaeopteryx skull a of yet). Cope "accidentally" received some of Marsh's fossils and commented upon the interesting find before returning the Yalies' fossils (86-87). There's also minor notes by misc. historians that despite the find Marsh still felt he was "behind" in the Bone Wars at the time (roughly 1872-1873). Which reminds me that I've been meaning to return to the article and add at least another stub section for the early years. :) Damn you rising personal FA standards! --Der Wohltempierte Fuchs ^(talk) 14:15, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Cool - appreciate yer (preemptively) slotting it in then..sounds like an amusing little anecdote ta add some colour to the article ... : ) Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:07, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

I've added a paragraph or two from two sources that I found, and also cleaned up the information on File:Hesperornis Regalis - Project Gutenberg eText 16474.jpg. If you need any further help, just holla'. Cheers, --Der Wohltempierte Fuchs ^(talk) 14:40, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Happy Easter!

On behalf of the Kindness campaign, I just wanted to wish my fellow Wikipedians a Happy Easter! Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 06:04, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

A comment at WT:FICT

You're one of Jack Merridew's mentors. Could you please take a look at this comment by him? --Pixelface (talk) 12:30, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

nb: Another member of this tag team started this thread. Cheers, Jack Merridew 12:40, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Incidents#Wikistalking_and_harassment_by_User:Jack_Merridew

As you are one of this editor's mentors, I am formally requesting that the editing restrictions be extended so that this editor leaves me alone. You have already told him to do as much and yet he is ignoring those instructions in blatant diregard for the agreement by which he returned. Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 15:48, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

genetic monitoring dyk

Hi, I looked at your dyk submission, I think the hook needs some tightening, please take a look.

Thanks dm (talk) 03:02, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Dr Pepper

Hey, I love Dr Pepper, and was going to try and get it to GA status. I saw that you do food and drink articles on the peer review, and was wondering if you could help me. I was just wondering, besides a good copy edit, what would Dr Pepper need to be a good article? I've never done any articles related to food or drink and am hoping you can help me with what it needs. Thank you! CTJF83Talk 07:46, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I will have a look later. Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:57, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Congrats!

Hi Cas: Congratulations on getting Oz Magpie to GA! Only fitting, since you were the one who challenged us all to reach 100 in the first place... Now for R-t Diver!  : ) MeegsC | Talk 12:10, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Philippine Hanging Parrot

I can give you a reference: The Tagalog name Colasisi for this bird species is mentioned in the following book (which is the best book available about Philippine birds):

• Kennedy, R.S., Gonzales P.C., Dickinson E.C., Miranda, Jr, H.C., Fisher T.H. (2000) A Guide to the Birds of the Philippines, Oxford University Press, Oxford.
  Magalhães (talk) 12:18, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:33, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Bambusa oldhamii

On April 15, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bambusa oldhamii, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Shubinator (talk) 16:42, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

April 2009

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. When using certain templates on talk pages, as you did to User talk:Globe Collector, don't forget to substitute with text by adding subst: to the template tag. For example, use {{subst:uw-test1}} instead of {{uw-test1}}. This reduces server load and prevents accidental blanking of the template. Thank you. Computerwiz908 | Talk 01:48, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

You can leave it here - might be useful. I am happy to cut-and-paste a different version. Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:17, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Magpie

Is this a magpie File:Cracticus tibicen (Juvenile) -garden in Australia-8.jpg? Snowman (talk) 22:28, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Wonderful photo - yes it is (black eyes and less distinctiv plumage)Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:38, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Genetic monitoring

On 17 April, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Genetic monitoring, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Dravecky (talk) 00:44, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thanks for your participation in my recent Request for adminship. We'd love to see you around more at the D&D project when you're not busy. :) So far, we've gotten Gary Gygax, Wizards of the Coast, Dragons of Despair, Drizzt Do'Urden, Forgotten Realms, Tomb of Horrors, Dwellers of the Forbidden City, White Plume Mountain, The Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth, Expedition to the Barrier Peaks, Planescape: Torment, Dragonlance, and Against the Giants promoted as part of our GA drive; next up are Dave Arneson and Drow (Dungeons & Dragons). :)

I don't remember if you were interested in comics as well, but the GA drive there has met with success for Spider-Man, Spider-Man: One More Day, Silver Age of Comic Books, Alex Raymond, Winnie Winkle, LGBT themes in comics, Hergé, and Pride & Joy (comics). See you around either way, and happy editing. :) BOZ (talk) 02:59, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Azure-hooded Jay

Hello. I'm starting to expand the Azure-hooded Jay, Cyanolyca cucullata, and was wondering if you could decode the root of the scientific name. Thank you. Rufous-crowned Sparrow (talk) 03:14, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Help

As if you're not busy enough, I wonder if you could take a quick look at this diff, particularly the last paragraph. I really cringe to see blatant bigotry in article talk but am not sure what, if anything, can appropriately be done. It's not exactly a chat/forum issue since it does nominally concern the article's content, and I couldn't find another appropriate template to warn the IP. Since someone has replied (sensibly but not enough, imo) it's difficult to just remove it. Advise, please? Rivertorch (talk) 21:36, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Nah, I'd just remove it I think. Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:36, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

All right, thanks. I generally hesitate to delete something there's already been a good-faith reply to, but I'll be bolder in future. Rivertorch (talk) 03:59, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Bambusa lako

On April 18, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bambusa lako, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thank you for all of your help with DYK! Royalbroil 10:46, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Can you check this out?

I've been working on 1968 Illinois earthquake since creating it in the fall... could you read over it and give me your thoughts? Is it ready for FA? Feel free to leave comments at the peer review. Ceranllama chat post 00:01, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

I've resolved your comments, and thanks. Ceranllama chat post 15:42, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Flaming Joel wiki award

1. The "hypodermics on the shore" is referring to the Syringe Tide, just in case anyone gets that to featured status. ;) 2. Does it count if someone gets the song to FA status? :P Have a good one! CarpetCrawler^{message me} 06:45, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Wow! I did not know that - must change it, and yes, getting the song to FA counts as well. Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:00, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Another request

Please see Talk:Mohamed Ialá Embaló, and if you agree with me, please move the article over the redirect. Everyking (talk) 22:57, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

True Blue (song)

Hello once again! I have responded to a query you made about the book Rock N' Roll Gold Rush on the True Blue review page. When you have the free time, I hope you take a look. Thank you and have a nice day! :) CarpetCrawler^{message me} 01:21, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

I think I speak for everyone when I say thank you for the review. :) CarpetCrawler^{message me} 05:38, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the wonderful review for "True Blue" and I have responded to your querries for "La Isla Bonita". --Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:16, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes like Carpet and Legolas said before, thanks for taking the time to review the article, and for passing it. Frcm1988 (talk) 06:19, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks again. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 11:02, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

No problems - they are both well done. Some more scouring may retrieve a few more tidbits here and there but nothing which precludes GA status. Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:03, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Lovely weather for ducks

I wish you'd waited, I was just testing the waters informally. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, and in fact be grateful that the article parrot is allowed to describe all parrots, no just the ones that aren't called amazons, macaws, lorikeets, cockatoos, keas and suchlike. Sabine's Sunbird talk 19:39, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

(In best Maxwell Smart voice) Sorry 'bout that chief. Well, not surprised after Calyptorhynchus - what I find fascinating is how English grammar defines things - so to the layperson, a cocky and macaw are parrots, and a pony is a horse, yet a swan or goose is not a duck. Consensus can be insanely hard on WP. Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:13, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Dispatch

Hey, Cas ... I left you a query at Wikipedia talk:Featured content dispatch workshop; if you can chunk some basic (even brief) text in there, others can help finish it up for next week or the following. Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:08, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

WP:FOUR

You may be eligible for some WP:FOUR awards.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 15:21, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, I got one already. Did you note any others I might have missed? Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:04, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

protecting Adam Carolla?

You indef protected Adam Carolla's article; you gave some arguments for protection, but not what spurred it. The article hasn't been seeing vandalism, what's the reason? tedder (talk) 06:10, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Someone requested it here, so I thought about it and did it. I believe in the liberal semiprotection of BLPs and figured there is a pretty good chance of future lewd vandalism. I won't push the point if you feel strongly and are keen to unprotect it. Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:14, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm not too strong on it either, but it seems to be such a low-grade issue that I'd prefer not to have it protected- i.e., I've seen more vandalism on other random articles (mostly not BLP, though). Because the amount of news about him has hardly been a low simmer, it isn't a huge target. So I'd lean against semiprotection, but I'm not going to push it either. tedder (talk) 06:19, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Lexicon

cas, can you give lexicon page numbers for philo and machus please? thanks, jimfbleak (talk) 06:41, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

You can have a choice - p. 760 is for the adjective φιλομαχος "loving fighting, warlike", while φιλο- "love" is on p. 761, and μαχη "battle" is page 427. Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:37, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Please Delete my IP

Hi, i forgot to login when i made an edit on a discussion page and signed off with my ip. I then logged in undid the changes and saved the page with my user id. I was wondering if you would be so kind and delete the page with my ip here, my comment the last line at the bottom. thanx. :)--Pooya72 (talk) 19:35, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

To merge or not to merge that is the question

Talk:Erech and Talk:Azazel in rabbinic literature have comments from me. Alastair Haines (talk) 09:58, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Cool. Interesting reading. Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:03, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		Casliber, you are a real asset to wikipedia. Thank you so much for being one of the first people to comment in the ANI. I appreciate your efforts in saving articles from deletion, this not only makes wikipedia stronger, it helps new defenceless editors. You are a wonderful editor and wikipedia is lucky to have you. thank you. Ikip (talk) 15:12, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I know that's boilerplate text up there, but you just implied that User:A Man In Black is here to use Wikipedia for fraudulent purposes. No 'Cheers' for you. Jack Merridew 15:42, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Not fraudulent, I am sure he believes what he is doing is right, but the end does not justify the means. Gah, too early in the day for philosophy. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:19, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Of course not. These accumulate; next one will stick better. See this: Wikipedia:Article Deletion Squadron? ^drama — Cheers, Jack Merridew 07:00, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Yep, saw that. (chuckle) Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:28, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

• note redaction; [3]. Cheers, Jack Merridew 08:28, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

ANI

If I am reading correctly then I believe that User:Sephiroth BCR is advising that I notify the three mentors of this discussion. Thank you for your time and consideration. Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 09:04, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

you can help!

yeah, this is random and stalkerish, but trust me when I have a reason for asking: where do you edit? (City and country would be nice, but whatever you feel comfortable telling is fine.) You can just shoot me an email or reply here. It's for a project I have to do involving wikipedia articles and editing patterns, nothing special, but I'll let you see it when I'm finished :) --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 14:08, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Split between college at Virginia Commonwealth University and A-Town :P --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 12:04, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Aha...okay then. (can't really enlighten that with anything witty, reminds me of Wayne and Garth talking about Delaware...) Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:06, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

And that reference is lost on me... :P I've no idea how the physical project I've got will turn out, but at the very least I've got some interesting content that could make a bang-up graph afterwards :) Thanks for your assistance, --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 12:17, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Did you know..

Hi Cas- thanks for the DYK nomination for genetic monitoring! It was very nice to see it get a mention there : ) cheers, Jjack206 (talk) 16:40, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Review for Red-capped Robin

Hi Casliber. The GA review for the Red-capped Robin article is done. Sorry I didn't get it done quite when I said I would. Still, pretty fast service... Diderot's dreams (talk) 05:09, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Lots of good progress. Still some items left. I've updated the review page with comments. Diderot's dreams (talk) 02:05, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Eric Berne

Intriguing to see you placing him in 'classic' mode - I wouldnt be suprised if it might outlive a whole forest of other faddish items that come and go from the marketplace - SatuSuro 15:33, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

thank you and i will provide sources. i can actually reference a book to my cite for verification? can you tell me what the minimun amount of sources i need for my page to be consider notable —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keitaadama (talk • contribs) 20:52, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Need some help with wikiproject

Hi, I am an active editor, with a few articles to my name. I'm very new (under 2 weeks I believe) to wikipedia, but I think I have learned fast. I joined Wikiproject Aquarium Fishes a little while after I joined wikipedia. It didnt take me long to realise there were only a few active members. I've taken a lot of liberties with the project, adding a portal, re-doing the tasklist, etc. But there are things that need to be done with this project that I just haven't had the opportunity to learn how to do. For instance, we need to get a working newsletter. I could have one drawn up in a matter of minutes, but delivery is extremely tedious, and my attempts at having a bot deliver were unanswered. I am not asking you to do these things for me, but rather to collaborate with me and teach as we go. If you are not interested, can you please point me to someone who may be?^DrewSmith 09:02, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Happy Casliber's Day!

Casliber has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian, so I've officially declared today as Casliber's Day! For your fantastic work as an arbitrator and as an editor and reviewer of content, enjoy being the star of the day, dear Casliber! Signed, Dylan (chat, work, ping, sign)

For a userbox you can put on your userpage, please see User:Dylan620/Today/Happy Me Day!.

April 30 was your day, I was away. FWIW, I rarely do arbitrators because they seem like obvious recipients, but what the hey, congrats! --Dylan620 _{Efforts · Toolbox} 13:21, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Dylan, I hope you find many 'quiet achievers' and 'wikignomes' to honour. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:10, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Now, for FA?

1968 Illinois earthquake: I've finished all your concerns. I contacted USGS and they gave me a source but I can't seem to find it anywhere. Should I just, in a sense, take it to FAC? I think the article is now ready prose wise. Ceranthor 13:40, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Hang on - just stuck on something else. Let me look or someone like Moni3, Delldot, or I dunno, someone. I will give you a hoy. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:44, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

I'd rather you, just because you're in the field of science and can probably help more. No offense to Moni, of course. Ceranthor 14:29, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Cane toad FAR

Can you take a look. A user chopped off teh large Australia section YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 01:49, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

(facepalm) not the first time with this one I think. Yeah, will try and get round to it. Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:12, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't think I can help much with this one, not from looking at my uni library, somehow the old-FA citing runs I did seemed a lot easier on sport topics in particular, teh Roosters one only took about 1.5 hr to cite half the article....Pity if it gets binned, there hasn't been a fatal Australian FAR since November 2007; there have been about 6-7 FAR saves [all unanimous keep] since then and a few others have been pre-emptively cleaned up so maybe that's why not many FARs were launched. Any I've emailed you an excel file with the list of FAs by citation density in case you want to take pre-emptive action. Most of the ones still in the danger zone are wildlife ones. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 03:50, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Please explain

the difference between your views on Nickhh and your views on Pedrito in the West Bank case. In particular, you have not proposed any additional findings on Nickhh - why should one editor be treated differently to another for the sole behavioural issue of edit-warring? If there's something I'm missing, please explain that too. Thanks, Ncmvocalist (talk) 06:51, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

I am busy for the next few hours. I try to look at the contribs as well as the reverts. I will revisit Nickhh as I saw his note on the talk page. Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:19, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

I have reconsidered but think this might be as lenient as it gets in getting to a consensus. Still, talk page involvement is better than none. Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:48, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

PS: It is not just edit warring but the content of contribs that help gain an idea of an editor's flexibility and ability to move forward from this. hence my view on MM. Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:50, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree that an attempt to make the distinction between both is better than none whatsoever. For disclosure, I've never interacted with either of these users, and as far as I'm aware, this is the first time I've made any comment on their conduct. The community brings an issue forward sometimes when it's too hard to make a distinction between different behavioural issues and a number of users. The community always favours each individual being treated equitably; not just indifferently topic-banning the lot of them for varying degrees and types of conduct - otherwise, we would do that ourselves all the time, and you'd have fewer requests for arb. ;) I agree that content of contribs does count in a sense, but some sort of link/diffs to a few examples would be helpful when a finding is so limited on the counts of misbehaviour - I doubt anyone can object to that either. But now I'll stop digressing in the "general" sense....

As there are a handful of votes at the moment, I would suggest that there is no harm in proposing, for example, "user is placed under an editing restriction indefinitely. He is subject to 1RR when editing any article under the area of conflict." Of course, this is just an example - it could be made broader or more narrow, but I doubt I would have issues with a proposal of this sort either way -proposing it for consideration for these 2 users, as well as NoCal and CanadianMonkey would not go unappreciated. Anyway, cheers Casliber. Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:17, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

ArbCom vs. volunteers

"I am sure the vast majority of editors who have been blocked or sanctioned think they have not done anything wrong." Whereas most convicted criminals (at least those who were actually guilty) in real life fully realize that they have done something wrong. Could in this be found a clue? None of you win reelection, and none of you will, either. You told everyone that you'd change things, and here you are being the same way. Your Committee adopts an adversarial relationship against the project's volunteers. Worse, you seem to enjoy it. You don't set any example of the kind you say you'd like to set, but have merely appointed yourselves as the sole authorized practitioners of character assassination. If you disapprove of a given hit, it's only because it wasn’t ordered by one of you. Why don't you stop pushing people around and start resolving their disputes? You should apologize to all these people, and take some time out to figure out how you can actually serve the community instead of attacking it.67.170.104.86 (talk) 11:36, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Whereas most convicted criminals (at least those who were actually guilty) in real life fully realize that they have done something wrong. - erm, no, not true. Sorry. I don't enjoy being adversarial actually, especially with editors I have had a good relationship with before. Makes me sad really. I am not sure what you mean by attacks on people as all the findings are based on behaviour. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:58, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

"I don't enjoy being adversarial actually, especially with editors I have had a good relationship with before."

Well then stop doing it; It really is that simple. Apologize to all these people you've trolled, and let's take a look at how we can resolve their dispute. Which is not who must be condemned, stripped or banned, but when can or can't we use the terms "Judea," "Samaria," or "Judea and Samaria." It is actually you who have insisted this be a battleground.67.170.104.86 (talk) 14:16, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Well the first step in continuing this would be to come out and tell me who you are rather than continuing this conversation anonymously. Email me if you like. Merging WP:IPCOLL, WP:ISRAEL and WP:PALESTINE may be a good start. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:18, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

I am User:Proabivouac; I'd assumed you knew that. I don't mean to evade responsibility for my contributions, or make it difficult for anyone to follow my contribution history - my account is blocked. So I cannot establish a history without sockpuppeting, which I'm unwilling to do.67.170.104.86 (talk) 14:23, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Okay. Note that arbcom cannot make content decisions, but propelling a community-driven content decision in this case would be a very good idea. I had mused about it for a few days so in that way I thank you for being the conscience on my right (or left) shoulder. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:29, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for considering my remarks.

Here is a link which you might find usable somewhere in the Banksia Wikiproject, in case you haven't seen this already.[4]24.18.142.245 (talk) 05:40, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Aha. thanks for that. I have used that website for bird names but not banksias previously. Sadly, as a geocities site I fear it's lifespan may be limited :( Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:51, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Here you are, sir.[5] You might consider using webcite to preempt these kinds of problems.[6]24.18.142.245 (talk) 06:29, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for that - looks useful. Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:34, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Flaming Joel-wiki award

Thank you very much. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 17:34, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Question re: Mattisse

Hi Casliber. Caspian blue suggested that I ask you whether any additional parties should be added to my request for arbitration on Mattisse's behavior. I could include you and the others who certified the initial RfC, as well as some who are involved in the current dispute, but I wasn't sure that was necessary as I am more concerned with the pattern of behavior rather than the specific incidents. This is the first request I've ever filed, so I'd appreciate any advice you can give. Karanacs (talk) 20:24, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Sure. Those on the receiving end (so to speak) have included me, Sandy, Giano, Fainites, and now Cirt and Awadewit. Ling.nut has tried mediating. Durova has too. I might take this to the talk page. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:29, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Sigh

It looks like ArbCom accepted the Mattisse case. I really don't like the whole mess, and I don't like these situations. I have a feeling that the previous RfC will be brought up as evidence and thus involve me in some way. Since you are recused and part of the previous RfC, can you keep an eye on the "evidence" related to it? I don't have the stomach to bother, but I have a feeling that I might need to respond, clarify, etc, in some manner if it comes up. Ottava Rima (talk) 15:56, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

award

Casliber, I love the Michelle Obama Breaking New Ground Award! Thank you! --Rosiestep (talk) 05:27, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Hehehe. The challenge is finding and making ones :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:29, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Well you definitely put a smile on my face :) --Rosiestep (talk) 05:39, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Neutrality enforcement: a proposal

Thanks for your comment about the Israel-Palestine neutrality idea. I've started a proposal, which could be extended to other intractable disputes if it works. See Wikipedia:Neutrality enforcement. I'd very much appreciate your input. SlimVirgin ^{talk|contribs} 08:19, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

RFC

In response to your remarks on uncharted territory and the community's views, I've started off Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Impeachment of Functionaries. I'm hoping this, together with arbcom's deliberations, might give some guidelines for this territory.--Scott Mac (Doc) 17:31, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Very good idea. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:42, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Great Auk

I'm trying to add the extra bit needed for Great Auk to reach GA and maybe FA status. Do you think you could discern where the bird's scientific name, Pinguinus impennis, comes from? Thanks Rufous-crowned Sparrow (talk) 03:28, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Should be pretty easy. Will look soon. My hunch is impennis means something unwinged or unflying, but will double check. Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:57, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

If it will save any time, you can search for the term here. Franamax (talk) 12:30, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

And lookimg at the Linnaean source, Systema Naturae at Google Books [7]. at the bottom of page 210 (where I think he's actually talking about geese, anseres alca impennis, but whatever, he made all this stuff up anyway) we see "Alcae impennes nequeunt volare" - nequeunt from a very NSFW Catullus poem we have an article on here means "can't"; and volare is either a Chrysler vehicle from the '70's or a popular song from the '60's or more probably the Latin "fly". All this is total OR but it looks to me like "impennis" means "can't fly". For some strange reason, that's basically what the citable link I provided above says too... But it was fun tracking down Linnaeus' original definitions. :) Franamax (talk) 13:07, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

And it was actually a Plymouth car, but of course now would be called a UAW/USGov/Fiat/CanGov/Bondholder Volare. :) Franamax (talk) 13:14, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Cute, Franamax. :-) I believe impennis means "without feathers of flight". Risker (talk) 13:16, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

I can't find an actual Latin definition though. The taxonomic origin seems to be with Linnaeus, so I was trying to pin it down there. I do agree that to me "impennate" would be "flightless", i.e. if you clip off the pin feathers, you can keep your duck or goose from flying away. However, I'm also thinking of "pinnate" which I believe means "having feathers", so it's a fine distinction. I think the first link I found is reliable enough, I just wanted to look a little further to be sure. Franamax (talk) 13:26, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

My dictionary has penna = flight as a secondary def. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:54, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Cas, just for my own curiosity, can you check your Cassell's for a distinction between "pennis" and "pinnis". i.e. any difference betweem feathers and flight? For instance, plants can have pinnate leaf arrangements, but they rarely fly. Is there some Latin rule where changing a vowel in the stem makes the word plu-perfect adjunctive or something? I haven't done this stuff in a long while...

This has nothing to do with the Great Auk article, I'm just asking. There is a large evo-debate lately about whether flight made feathers or feathers made flight (and whether the origin of flight was cursorial or aboreal). A perspective on this from a Latin-English dictionary from the '70's would be informative to me, but no big rush. :) Franamax (talk) 23:51, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

(outdent) ok, will look when I get home. the chicken or egg debate (chuckle) Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Be careful

Thanks for the wine cas, & steady now

First of all, thank you for the wine. Second of all, a friedly warning; I have friends and you might like to think deeply before you go around mocking the Oirish and/or the Cork accent. Sure we speak funny; but we are many. We are legion. Thanks. Ceoil (talk) 13:25, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Aha, which one is you? Oh (facepalm) you're the one taking the picture....? Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:28, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Im the yellow t-shirted muscualr dude tooled with a pistol and pointy shoes. Just so as you know, friend. Ceoil (talk) 13:45, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Off site query

In response to your off site query about article comparisons - look up Samuel Johnson at the Literary Encyclopedia or the EB. Not only is ours better written, it is more factual, provides more direct evidence, and uses verifiable references that can help people track down where the information came from. Pound for pound, our literature articles are becoming better quality than any competitor. Ottava Rima (talk) 19:23, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Mattisse

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Mattisse/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Mattisse/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, [[Sam Korn]] ^(smoddy) 08:24, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

RfA Thank You

My RFA passed today at 75/2/1 so I wanted to thank you for your participation in it. Special thanks go to GlassCobra and FlyingToaster for their nomination and support. Cheers! --Rosiestep (talk) 02:33, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

RfA Thanks

Thank you for supporting me in my recent RfA, which unfortunately did not pass with a final tally of (45/39/9). I plan on addressing the concerns raised and working to improve in the next several months. Special thanks go to MBisanz, GT5162, and MC10 for nominating me. Thanks again, -download ׀ sign! 03:51, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Merge?

Corante has more info, coranto is the more generic term, they address the same topic: the precursors to newspapers. They remind me of responsible versions of something I was once involved with as a schoolboy in 1981. But that has Zero relevance to the merge decision. Perhaps some may rally round, young and old, swelling a happy thronging consensus. Veritate et virtute Harold Philby (talk) 10:44, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Gosh, I had not heard the term until I read this...it does look like one is a specific paper and one is a general term. Intresting topic...Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:39, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Species and genera, they're everywhere! :) Harold Philby (talk) 14:57, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

XD Casliber (talk · contribs) 15:06, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Coordinates check

Greetings, Casliber. I'm trying to add geographic coordinates, where they're lacking, to articles about Australian botanical gardens, and I noticed that you took the photos that appear in Keilor Botanic Gardens. Is 37.7129°S 144.8572°E / -37.7129; 144.8572 the correct location of the garden, or is it somewhere else in the area? Deor (talk) 16:18, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

I guess so (yes I took the photos within the gardens, which are not very big) - it is roughly the centre of this map here [8], so looks right. I am inexperienced at all this stuff. Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:28, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Nisha Kataria

Thanks, that would be great. I want to look at it for notability and try to establish notability if it doesn't exist already. She should be notable, she's Michael Jackson's only protegé, has some popularity in Germany I think, and her Wikipedia article got a couple hundred page views a month. Some people are interested in her. Not that her music is very good but still an interesting story... Diderot's dreams (talk) 01:40, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Question

Why I'm being lump togeter in this group? [9]. I'm in the military stationed in Japan, I have never used or being associated with this IP sharing group. I have never engaged or being accused of edit warring or any incivility. On what basis I'm being lump in this group? Bravehartbear (talk) 22:18, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your support

Unfortunately, my RFA was closed recently with a final tally of 75½/38/10. Though it didn't succeed, I wanted to thank you for your support and I hope I can count on it in the future. Even though it didn't pass, it had a nearly 2 to 1 ratio of support and I am quite encouraged by those results. I intend to review the support, oppose, and neutral !votes and see what I can do to address those concerns that were brought up and resubmit in a few months. If you would like to assist in my betterment and/or co-nominate me in the future, please let me know on my talk page. Special thanks go to Schmidt, MICHAEL Q., TomStar81, and henrik for their co-nominations and support. — BQZip01 — talk

Lion edits

What do you make of these recent changes to the lion article? See the talk page for more. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)^{Calling All Athletics Fans!} 00:02, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

(facepalm)....ok, let's have a look....Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:49, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

I know it's a long read, but I've outlined the errors on the talk page. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)^{Calling All Athletics Fans!} 00:59, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Cheers for that. I'm still awaiting the user's response however... I fear that the "light edit" summary might've made other editors not review what was really a substantial and partially damaging edit. I tend to rigorously evaluate edits to FAs, removing even decent edits that are unsourced. I find it's the only way quality is preserved, and a good editor will always show their sources anyway.

Can I just say that I appreciate your work (and that of Sabine's Sunbird, Jimfbleak etc) at the Bird's WikiProject? You've all done some real quality work there. Birds are a particular interest of mine but I haven't expanded into that area thus far—athletics biographies and the like have absorbed much of my time recently and there are only a few people regularly contributing in that area. If my WikiProject proposal can result in just half the amount of improvement that the Birds one has done then I'll be more than pleased! Thanks. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)^{Calling All Athletics Fans!} 01:45, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the kudos - erm...what wikiprojects proposal? Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:23, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Ugh, I kind of just realised that the signature wasn't obvious enough. I know that for American editors an "Athletics Fan" might carry Oakland A's connotations. Hopefully this modification will point it out more clearly now! Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)^{WIKIPROJECT ATHLETICS NEEDS YOU!} 03:29, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

GA Sweeps invitation

Hello, I hope you are doing well. I am sending you this message since you are listed as a GA reviewer. I would like to invite you to consider helping with the GA sweeps process. Sweeps helps to ensure that the oldest GAs still meet the criteria, and improve the quality of GAs overall. Unfortunately, last month only two articles were reviewed. This is definitely a low point after our peak at the beginning of the process when 163 articles were reviewed in September 2007. After nearly two years, the running total has just passed the 50% mark. In order to expediate the reviewing, several changes have been made to the process. A new worklist has been created, detailing which articles are left to review. All exempt and previously reviewed articles have already been removed from the list. Instead of reviewing by topic, you can consider picking and choosing whichever articles interest you.

We are always looking for new members to assist with the remaining articles, so if you are interested or know of anybody that can assist, please visit the GA sweeps page. In addition, for every member that reviews 100 articles or has a significant impact on the process, s/he will get an award when they reach that threshold. If only 14 editors achieve this feat starting now, we would be done with Sweeps! Of course, having more people reviewing less articles would be better for all involved, so please consider asking others to help out. Feel free to stop by and only review a few articles, something's better than nothing! Take a look at the list, and see what articles interest you. Let's work to complete Sweeps so that efforts can be fully focused on the backlog at GAN. If you have any questions about the process, reviewing, or need help with a particular article, please contact me or OhanaUnited and we'll be happy to help. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 07:07, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Question

Are you a current or past practicing mental health professional? Thanks. --Justallofthem (talk) 20:18, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Corvus

I haven't really looked at the phylogeny of Corvus. The whole Corvus/raven/crow thing is all drowning in the same stupid that bedevils duck/Anatidae and I have no intention of fighting that kind of battle again for a while. I'll have a look at the jackdaw thing tomorrow. Sabine's Sunbird talk 20:59, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Reliable sourcing for lion(ess) as inspiration for old depictions

(transferred for your convenience)

Sometimes the image of the males is used, even when the female is intended, because the distinctive mane differentiates the species from other large feline species.

83d40m, if you can find scholarly references for this material I'd be most appreciative. I never came across any when I was working this article up for Featured status, and WP:OR is something that takes a while to take on board. Ditto the Singapore note. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:10, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

I will look for the source for this statement about manes on lionesses to stress the species of a large feline -- it may take me a while, since that was introduced into the article a long time ago... let me see whether I can find it in a short time. The discussion related to the presence of _significant_ manes on figures that were clearly identified as females. Of course, many lionesses have more hair about the head (and throat) than others and the range of variability must be taken into consideration. The tuft at the end of the tail is the most characteristic and unmistakeable trait, but the importance of that detail frequently is unknown. Sometimes the entire tail, and its tuft, is not depicted in images clearly depicting lions.

This article has been featured two or three times since I began editing it why is it being worked up again to be featured when there are so many articles that never are? Especially this article, since, curiously, it seems to draw so much vandalism -- which always is so heightened after being featured.

I had nothing to do with any copy about Singapore... not sure what you mean, unless it was in the copy that I restored at the same time as some that had been removed in a wholesale cut. It was intended to save a lot of tedious editing, but I regret having done that. Today, I have gone back and reinserted just the longstanding copy I intended to restore, since, it has been cut again. Will let you know if I can find that source about the lionesses. ---- 83d40m (talk) 21:54, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

OK (1) you need to find the sources first (2) the article is not being 'refeatured two or three times' I passed being a featured article and remains so. Yes it has been highly vandalised and this has meant we've had to go back and sort out the chaff from the wheat as it were. Its length has made this difficult at times. Yes we have removed well-intentioned material, either from prose problems or lack of referencing mainly. (3) I apologise for alluding the singapore hypothesis to you - it is another piece of information which has been inserted on more than one occasion. Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:36, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

A first search yielded one of the references and another may have been in a source about heraldry... this is going to take an extensive search as I did not keep records of the references.

Double vision: perspectives on gender and the visual arts - Google Books Result by Natalie Harris Bluestone - 1995 - Social Science - 159 pages 43 The poet Theodore de Banville employed the image of a "lioness in search of a ... mane of the male of her species and is very emphatically a female. ... books.google.com/books?isbn=0838635407...

http://books.google.com/books?id=JG3ceLmdnbgC&pg=PA33&lpg=PA33&dq=mane+on+lioness+image&source=bl&ots=Al1pHISavC&sig=rQg-K2Qv7cEXNoRXYw6K_lGD9cw&hl=en&ei=RkIPSsLMG9rgtgfe54X9Bw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1

this is not a source that is readily available on-line -- I will keep at it as I am able.

I thought that you meant that it would be on the main page again. I think you mean something else by featured. Do not misunderstand me, I believe this is a good article that should be well recognized. I watch over it regularly, trying to keep some of the weird material off of it. Have been through some nasty episodes with vandals and such. ---- 83d40m (talk) 23:13, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Well done! That is a start and makes interesting reading. One of the frustrating things is making sure the material added matches the source. It would be good to make a subsection on the lion talk page and post material there. Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:17, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

I note that you have taken off the material I reinserted today that is well documented about lionesses. There should not be a need for reverences when well-know facts are included -- it makes a horribly choppy article. It makes even less sense when the data is a summation of data that exists in the extensive article itself. I am reluctant to go back again, but feel that you have diminished the accuracy of the article and limited the scope of understanding for our readers. These portions that have been removed again were part of this article for a very long time and are based upon well-known data that should not require sources when links to other extensive articles in Wikipedia exist as the cross references. ---- 83d40m (talk) 23:57, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

No, the more speculative stuff about Sekhmet and being the son of a lion goddess was unsourced AFAICT. Can you direct me to the source of that? Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:30, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Birds May newsletter

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maps

Sure, it might not be immediately, but send me the stuff, at mailto:kim@kimvdlinde.com -- Kim van der Linde ^{at venus} 01:09, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I am getting a bit more time, and a bit more concentration to work on it. -- Kim van der Linde ^{at venus} 02:42, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Liopleurodon

Hi Cas, there is an edit war going on on the Liopleurodon article concerning Charlie the Unicorn. Darimoma keeps inserting a paragraph about it to assert the notability of the youtube video which I and others think is not legitimate. Could you have a look at it? Thanks. ArthurWeasley (talk) 04:00, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Interesting Mushroom Article

Hi Casliber! This article may be of interest/use for your efforts to work on mushroom related articles, i.e. if there's a Mushrooms in popular culture or something? Best, --A Nobody^{My talk} 19:38, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm waiting for Finland–Tonga relations in popular culture myself. Deor (talk) 21:00, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, apparently people have written on mushrooms' impact on religion (see [10]) and Henry David Thoreau has actually written on "Mushrooms in Literature." And here we learn that some people actually spent "years gathering instances of mushrooms in literature and art, noting the special role that the plant played in the imagination of diverse culltures." Best, --A Nobody^{My talk} 21:11, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

I was just trying to evoke a smile, AN. Geez! Deor (talk) 21:15, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Okay, well, in that case: :) Regards, --A Nobody^{My talk} 21:19, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

XD is better :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:56, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

The Historian

I've started working on this article about a wonderful vampire novel. The article is a complete disaster at the moment (WIP), but I thought you might be interested in helping out. If you have read it, the plot summary needs major work! If you haven't read it, now there is a reason to rush out and buy the book. :) Awadewit (talk) 18:58, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

I have read (and thoroughly enjoyed) the book. Got nostalgic as I have been to Bulgaria, Turkey and Romania and love those tales-within-tales type books. My wife couldn't get into it though. Will take a look. Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:56, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

It is the scholarly bits that I love. :) Awadewit (talk) 00:08, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Yea, good for that too. Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:11, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Benzo article

Hi Casliber, I am writing to in regard to the benzodiazepine article which has been hanging on good article review for some time now. I was confused and thought that Doc James was the reviewer but he has said that you are listed as the reviewer. I was wondering if it has reached the standard of a good article yet. I do have ideas for improving the article to reach featured article status after good article status has been achieved but at the moment I think that it has reached good article status. If you disagree I would welcome comments on what remains to be done.--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 17:55, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

I forgot to say and perhaps a bit of rude of me not to that if you are busy don't rush yourself. :)--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 00:13, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Mac Penguin

Hi Cas, I gave the article one more read through and tweaked some things. Some comments:

• That range map is tiny, and the red dots are extremely difficult to see.
• "Distribution and habitat" claims population is 11.8 million pairs, while "conservation" says 18 million individuals.
• I thought about putting 9.2 million tonnes in a convert template to give long tons (or short tons) but decided to let you decide to do that or not (doesn't seem particularly important to me, but it may come up at FAC)
• Ref 52 (Reynolds 2001) needs more info. Actually it looks ok now, must have been some display error on my screen that cut off some info.

Other than that, it reads pretty good to me. I'm gone for 3 weeks starting tomorrow, ttyl. Sasata (talk) 06:54, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Neurosurgery and light construction

You Australians are such bad-asses ([11]). The only missing touch would be if the physician had proclaimed: "That's not a craniotome... this is a craniotome." MastCell ^Talk 15:52, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Real man's surgery :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:19, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Cane toad

Can you do anything here? Sasata is going away YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 05:27, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Bloody hell..not my area but I will see what I can do (aargh, buried in arb cases too) Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:12, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Even further away from mine unfortuantely.... YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 02:58, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

fundamental issues for all of wikipedia brought up at ADHD Arb which you drafted

Could you please look at the Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/ADHD page. [[12]] Issues have been brought up which implications for all of wikipedia. Thank you, --scuro (talk) 04:38, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Epsilon Orionis

Thanks for protecting this entry. The person who kept putting in their pet star name was becoming a nuisance. Skeptic2 (talk) 10:02, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

No worries - much easier than range-blocking IPs. Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:48, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Now I find that this person has vandalized my talk page, presumably in retribution... Skeptic2 (talk) 15:26, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

1995 Brazilian Grand Prix

Hi Casliber. I noticed you're name at WP:PRV. I was wondering whether you could peer review the 1995 Brazilian Grand Prix article for me, leaving you're comments here. If you could make any comments at the PR, that'd be great. Kind regards, D.M.N. (talk) 17:05, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/A Man In Black

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/A Man In Black/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/A Man In Black/Workshop.

For the Arbitration Committee,
AGK 17:30, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/A Man In Black

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/A Man In Black/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/A Man In Black/Workshop.

For the Arbitration Committee,
AGK 17:32, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

DYK typo

There's a typo in one of the DYK hooks on the Main Page. In the third hook on Shirley E. Flynn, there should be an of after history. Could you fix it? Shubinator (talk) 14:56, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Fixed by Zzyzx11. Shubinator (talk) 15:21, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Cotorowegtry

I am operating a legitimate multiple accont and do not want to make this public so how can you help he?Cotorowegtry (talk) 20:31, 25 May 2009 (UTC).

Benzo featured article

Hi Casliber, would you be opposed to me nominating the benzodiazepine article for featured article? I have finished doing my final tweaks to the benzodiazepine article now.--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 03:10, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I have been occupied and haven't looked, you are welcome to nominate it at any time but I can't guarantee I won't find more prose thingies until I look :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:56, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I understand that you are a busy man Casliber and I do appreciate the time and effort you put into wikipedia. I have made a leap of faith and nominated the article. I have made changes to the article which you suggested on GA review page and also did a bold edit by cutting one section out and moving it to the benzo misuse article. If you find more problems with the page I am sure that they can be resolved during the review process. I imagine any problems would be relatively minor but even if major I am willing to put in the effort to get the article up to featured article status. I look forward to the review although a teeny bit worried about those thingies! :)--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 08:48, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Gah! knew there was something else I meant to do today! Anyway, good luck and there will be some helpful editors around. I will see what I can do too. Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:22, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Belle the Sleeping Car

• and more, lots more!

Cheers, Jack Merridew 11:30, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
p.s. List of fictional plants — Audrey, from Little Shop!

User talk pages

There was a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Right to vanish#User talk about deleting user talk pages of contributors. There doesn't seem to be very strong consensus to do so (any longer). For what it's worth. --MZMcBride (talk) 01:00, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Featured editors?!

Hello! Please note: User:A Nobody/Featured editors. Anyway, if you have any suggestions, ideas, it would be appreciated as I think you might figure into at least two of those potential categories (more than 100 supports, number of DYKS?). Best, --A Nobody^{My talk} 02:10, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Jackdaw

I'm afraid I don't have any ideas for that one! Awadewit (talk) 04:47, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Thx anyway, 'twas verily a long shot. Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:18, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Retirement again

Cas, I think you have to find someone else to make the map. I am retiring from wikipedia again, for reasons spelled out at my page. I might make a occasional edit as I did before, but I am not going to stay here as long as some abusive admins are allowed to have their sysop bit. -- Kim van der Linde ^{at venus} 16:25, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

okay, good luck then. Sorry to have nagged. I will hope you stick around a bit on the bird pages from time to time, but look after yourself as a higher priority. :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:18, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

You, you did not nag. The retirement is solely because a Slimvirgin has gotten her sysopbit back. I left the first time because of her, and I won't be part of a project that allows her to continue her abusive behaviour as a admin. So, I leave. -- Kim van der Linde ^{at venus} 22:05, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Cas, I think you (and with you ArbCom) seriously underestimate how much of a battlefield the I/P articles have been and probably are. Most people (including me) stay away from it with a ten-foot pole. The amount of harassment that you have to endure from either side of the dispute is enormous. The last ArbCom case was a perfect example why it is wiser to stay away from there, because it effectively sanctioned many of the POV-pushing techniques that are used. techniques like stonewalling, baiting, etc, which leads to editors going over the edge and getting banned. Those should not be. So, sorry, you won't see me there under the current set POV-technoiques that is formally allowed. -- Kim van der Linde ^{at venus} 02:22, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

PS, the single most needed thing at WP is a content ArbCom, that can make binding decisions about content. That would solve a large number of issues. -- Kim van der Linde ^{at venus} 02:24, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Cane toad

We can do it........ I've done some. "You can do it!!!!" "Come on!!!!!!!!!!" "Yes We Can!!!!!!!!!" Ah cheesy Chrysler ads with Barack Obama and Arnie YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 06:40, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I must be pissing you off YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 03:29, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

No no, (I knew there was something else on the rather full to-do list...) Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:53, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Schizophrenia

Cas, I'm not sure who's watching Schizophrenia closely these days, but these sorts of additions can quickly deteriorate the article if someone isn't constantly on top of them. Do you have that source, are you able to verify? Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:40, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

(facepalm), we-ell, not as bad as the fun and games at lion and vampire recently I suppose.... Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:52, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

User:The undertow/Shortcuts

Could you please send the page contents into a subspace of my userspace. I was using the shortcuts, as were various other people, and I would honestly like them back.— Dædαlus ^Contribs 20:23, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

User:Daedalus969/Shortcuts would be nice.— Dædαlus ^Contribs 20:24, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Done. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:32, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Sorry for the late reply.— Dædαlus ^Contribs 21:05, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

No problemo. Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:30, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Rejecting "Locus of dispute" as written

In the "Tang Dynasty" ArbCom case, the "locus of dispute" factfinding should be rejected as written.

A new, better locus of dispute should be adduced.

I write to encourage you to re-visit this because the first and last sentences are fundamentally flawed.

NO to 1st sentence. The case originated when Teeninvestor rejected any and all inquiry relating to WP:V, WP:Burden and WP:RSUE, alleging vandalism and disruptive editing instead. This persistent confrontational strategy is endorsed and encouraged by those voting in support Newyorkbrad's locus of dispute. These votes effectively disregard Tenmei's locus, Teeninvestor's locus and, most importantly, Teeninvestor's restatment at Summarizing "more or less the entire dispute". This obfuscation marginalizes even the attempt to pursue a strategy of collaborative editing; and for this very practical reason, I could not disagree more with this sentence

NO to 3rd sentence. In the specific context of this case, it is procedurally unsound to adopt the expanded scope proposed by Teeninvestor and Caspian blue. One of the few areas of agreement acknowledged the initially limited focus of our case when it was opened. I could not disagree more with this sentence.

In support, I highlight a crucial fulcrum or pivot between "A" and "B" below:

• A. Tenmei's analysis here and here paraphrases Coren's measured language here:

"We appear to confront a small scale replica of what has occurred in other, wider disputes ... informed by a four-prong examination at each and every point of this escalating drama:

• 1. "What is the quality of the sources used by both sides in the dispute?
• 2. "What is the consensus of scholars in the field; and does the source reflect that consensus?
• 3. "Are the sources actually supporting the assertions for which they are cited?
• 4. "Are unsourced assertions being used?

"As others will know better than me, these four points are, unsurprisingly, at the center of most protracted disputes and are all violations of our core content policies, e.g., verifiability, no original research and neutrality."

• B. Teeninvestor's rejection is entire here and here:

"This guy is out of control, man." [emphasis added]

In this instance, Tenmei's paraphrase of Coren's moderating analysis was posted on the talk pages of all arguably interested participants at Talk:Inner Asia during the Tang Dynasty. The "out of control" accusatory phrasing was repeated in diffs on the talk pages of PericlesofAthens and Arilang1234. This suggests a deliberate strategy rather than a merely transient outburst.

In these pivotal diffs, Teeninvestor cannot feign to have misunderstood my writing. These are plainly Coren's paraphrased words; and yet, this modest effort to frame collaborative editing issues was immediately converted into a contrived hostile encounter. This destructive pattern is reflected ad nauseam on the evidence and workshop pages. Despite the cumulative attacks, the edit history confirms my participation focused on issues, but this outcome tells me clearly that I was wrong to take the high road.

In voting to support this awkward "spin", ArbCom's counter-intuitive judgment effectively affirms that the contributions of Teeninvestor and Caspian blue were above reproach and I was not.

This alchemy is difficult to digest. ArbCom rewards what is bad and denigrates what is good. --Tenmei (talk) 19:19, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Party?

I noticed that at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/A Man In Black/Workshop, you've added a number of comments to "Comments by parties" sections. Since you're not listed as a party to the case, and since you've apparently recused yourself from involvement in it as an arbitrator, perhaps you meant them to go in the corresponding "Comments by others" sections? Deor (talk) 22:39, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Good point. I had recused giving the reason being I was non-impartial. I have had some discussions in the AfD quagmires I recall, though whether that makes me involved I suppose is unclear. I guess they can be shifted. Not fussed really which slot they go in. Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:15, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry

I was looking off your userpage to see how you can collapse tables so that I could create a userpage for my friend. I didn't know that the edit button linked to that page. By the way, how do you show the diffs? Sorry. Wireless Keyboard ^Click! _Clack! 14:01, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Aah, ok. To show the diffs, you cut and past the address in the addressbox of whatever browser you're using. This occurs after you click 'history' and then select to versions to compare. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:18, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

An interesting editor ...

I've just encountered an interesting editor who seems to be rather zealously tagging and deleting with nice concise policy references, only he's misunderstanding those policies. Where editors are actively working on pages, they are trying to work with his criticisms, but he doesn't seem to get it. I suspect he feels bullet-proof: they are working on the article, their opinion is therefore invalid, they must accept his criticism or be guilty of not being willing to hear it. I don't think he's realised his own opinion of his own opinion is also invalid. It just so happens he's hit three editors of some maturity all at once, and all (co-incidently?) Christians.

I'm curious to see what happens. One editor User:Muzhogg is new. He's got tremendous patience and humility, but is asserting himself none-the-less. Another is User:Johnbod, who can look after himself by now, interesting head-to-head. Then there's me, of course, an irresistable force is in the process of discovering he's met an immovable object. His current approach is "actions speak louder than words". He's not replying to my responses to his comments, and expressed an unwillingness to do so.

Anyway, this confident chap's handle is User:Hrafn. I'm sure he means well, but I kind of run out of nice ways of helping people see outside their own box if they insist on staying there for too long. I'll take a break from interacting with him for now, and go back and revert him mercilessly in a week or so, he may not even notice.

I'm not asking for help here, you're helping way too many people already. I'm just passing on a name. User:Hrafn, decent chap I'm sure, but the type who doesn't take kindly to his orders criticisms not being taken on board promptly. I think he may need some help eventually, because, oddly enough, he's not actually always right, and people here are likely to keep telling him that. Forewarned is forearmed.

PS feel free to make this message self-destruct. Alastair Haines (talk) 14:09, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

okay, time is patchy but will try to look. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:23, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Frill-necked Monarch

On May 31, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Frill-necked Monarch, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Dravecky (talk) 14:21, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Alexithymia

I'm wondering where you stand professionally on the concept? Some are believers, others aren't ... I did a lot of work on that article before a certain ArbCom. It's still a pretty clean article. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:04, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Also, would you peek at my query at User talk:Awadewit#Dissertation as a source? Thanks, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:07, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Beetles, fungi and macro lenses

Hi Casliber. I saw the message you sent to fir0002. I doubt he'd be able to take any pictures of fungi since he is stuck in Melbourne due to university. I went for a walk through a cool temperate rainforest area of Wielangta forest today. I took a large number of pretty good quality fungus pictures. I need help with identifying them however, and have posted the images at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Fungi#18_IDs_from_Wielangta_Forest.2C_Tasmania. I'd appreciate your help since you seem to be fairly knowledgeable in the area.

You also had some gear questions. Since you want to shoot insects too, I'd get a fairly long macro lens such as the tamron 180mm or the sigma 150mm. More critical than your choice of lens is your lighting. You want a 430ex or a 580ex (extremely useful for everything). For insects add a softbox, macro flash bracket and an E-TTL cord. The softbox and macro bracket can be easily home-made. For anything stationary ditch the bracket/softbox and use a $30 ebay shoot through umbrella and swivel, and some ~$30 ebay radio triggers. You will need a light stand or an assistant. For the stationary stuff I'd also consider a decent tripod, allowing you to balance ambient and flash light. The longest exposure in the fungi I've uploaded was four seconds, impossible without a tripod. Compare File:Wielangta Unidentified Fungus 5194.jpg (fill flash) with http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/579/img5192u.jpg, which is only ambient. Noodle snacks (talk) 11:49, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

• bookmarking so I don't lose it. Casliber (talk · contribs)

RE Notable saying?

I recalled this one....Talk:Fes,_Morocco#Old_moroccan_saying - is it famous in morocco? Or just some anglophone urban myth...Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:02, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Replied at the article talk page. p.s. I like your Fez up there :) -- FayssalF - ^{Wiki me up®} 04:31, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Mother Temple of Besakih

The early morning sun hits the spires of Pura Besakih

DYK that the most important Hindu Temple in Bali has a single sentence of coverage? ^oldid :( Jack Merridew 16:43, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

I get 5 days, right? Cheers, Jack Merridew 10:10, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Karena ini, Anda harus menulis itu.
Saya akan pergi ke Kupang 25 Juli.
Mungkin Anda ikut?
Ta'at cuma kalo ada yang liat. ;)
Tapi di Wiki selalu ada yang liat. :(

Alastair Haines (talk) 10:10, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh crud, sorry Jack - Alastair's poem was very timely. Yes, 5 days it is. Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:25, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I have da book with a section on this; I don't have it with me at the moment. Thanks for the tweaks. I tweaked some of the images on Common. People should learn to hold their cameras level. The Pura Besakih particle really should be of the scale of Borobudur. Cheers, Jack Merridew 10:54, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

ma'af lads, I'll be watching for black bamboo while I'm in Timor ;) Alastair Haines (talk) 10:30, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi Alastair, welcome back. Please note that my bahasa Indonesia is the pits; and that's four years along. It does take being tough to be here ;) Let me know if I can help. Been there, done that. Cheers, Jack Merridew 10:54, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Pura Ulun Danu Bratan — opps; wrong temple; there are thousands. This is still an important one; See also Tanah Lot

See also

• Pura Ulun Danu Batur — the second most important temple on Bali. Cheers, Jack Merridew 12:48, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Ahaaa. ok, that redlink will turn blue sometime soon....Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:31, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I was thinking that. There are some pics at Commons:Category:Pura Ulun Danu Batur and I have some, somewhere. It's quite picturesque and is shown prominently on things like Lonely Planet covers. Cheers, Jack Merridew 14:16, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

See also also

• Bedugul Botanical Gardens (Commons:Category:Kebun Raya Eka Karya). Cheers, Jack Merridew