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You have done an excellent job on Alan Tam's page. The only thing is that Tam has not retired yet. He is still releasing albums and doing concerts every year. He is going to have a concert in CA USA later this month. I have made correction on the page. BTW, would you be able to do the Tam's page in Chinese? —Preceding unsigned comment added by E intelligence (talk • contribs) 22:14, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
- Ok I thought he pretty much was retired from "commercial" singing and only doing stuff for charities etc. Thanks for fixing that. About the zh wikipedia pages, unfortunately I really have no plans to make any major edit there any time soon. Perhaps in the future. Benjwong (talk) 05:25, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
2008 Summer Olympics scandal
- Please do not revert other people's edits without giving reasons. It is considered extremely rude and bad mannered. I have readded my sourced addition, with another ref. Please take it to the discussion page if you disagree with it. Malick78 (talk) 16:45, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- I reverted it twice. Also on the concerns page. The source said "it thought". Did you even read it? Benjwong (talk) 16:46, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
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Hello
Hello, I would like to notify you of a little discussion here through a little friendly notice, purely in case other participants think I'm canvassing. Thankyou! Dengero (talk) 12:53, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- That user was actually able to populate/fill-up those categories. I don't really know what to say. Benjwong (talk) 04:58, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
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Guangzhou dialect?
Benj, an editor wants to move Cantonese to Guangzhou dialect and to replace it with the dab. I hesitated to push for such a move earlier, because I thought it might provoke too much conflict, but I'd be happy to support it if others want it. What do you think? kwami (talk) 08:03, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
RfD nomination of a template redirect
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DYK for Macau security law
BorgQueen (talk) 13:58, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
- Great thanks. Benjwong (talk) 04:45, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
Righteous Harmony Society
Hi Benjwong -- sorry if I was too quick, but it seemed better to merge this stub into the main article, Boxer Rebellion especially since it had some information that has now been shown to be wrong, especially that the Boxers were "rebels." I'd be glad to discuss, but I didn't see any explanation for undoing my merge. ch (talk) 07:55, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
- Hi. I have some references about the RHS, but will not post it anytime soon. The article should not have been merged. There is enough info about each individual groups to make up a full article. Benjwong (talk) 02:57, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for leaving it for the moment! ch (talk) 04:48, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
- If you are a teacher. You must have alot of sources right? Benjwong (talk) 05:39, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
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Cantonese→Yue Chinese possible move
Hi Benjwong, I have reopened the discussion about moving Cantonese to Yue Chinese in order to see if a consensus can be reached (as we failed to do so the last time creating lengthy argument). As you appeared to show considerable interest in the original discussion, I thought you may be interested in participating this time around. You can see my proposal and comment here. Thank you!
Cheers, The Fiddly Leprechaun · Catch Me! 20:39, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
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- Please delete. Benjwong (talk) 06:57, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Tiananmen Square protests of 1989
Please give reasons for the reverts. I think I followed the discussion page's idea in trying to present opinions from both sides. And I made it as neutral as I can. You must agree, people are giving complains about the obvious bias of this article. If you are doing it based on your personal opinions, well, you should not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Startwiki (talk • contribs) 11:19, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
- You were rewording other people's references. That is really bad. It does not have much to do with opinions. Benjwong (talk) 22:29, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
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Need your help
I have created an article:User Arilang1234/Lao Baixing , User:Arilang1234/Sandbox/Lao Baixing is about 老百姓, I think this article is needed. Could you help me to build it up? Arilang talk 08:18, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry I don't have much to say on that article. Benjwong (talk) 02:15, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Nixon's visit to China
Regarding this edit, please use a descriptive edit summary when you revert good faith edits. While not strictly required, it is strongly recommended and will help new editors understand why their additions were removed. This is very important because you may be the first point of contact that editor has with the encyclopedia--if you make that a positive experience, you can help create a lasting relationship. If you make that a negative experience, that editor may leave and never come back. Thank you. Protonk (talk) 23:36, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- You are welcome to fix it before I revert. It looked to be dumping more stuff into the article at random again. Benjwong (talk) 23:40, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I'm not being clear. When you revert a user's good faith contributions, use an edit summary that explains why. This has nothing to do with whether or not you choose to revert them, though I disagree with your decision to do so here. Is that more clear? Protonk (talk) 23:44, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Don't you think you should be approaching that user on how to properly do references instead?? Benjwong (talk) 23:49, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- I can do both. But their inability to perfectly format references isn't a problem. that's what makes the "wiki" part of wikipedia work. What is a problem is when that content is removed and that content contributor given no reason for the removal. You could have formatted the references. You could have added a tag suggesting that the section or paragraph needed work. You could have done nothing. But you reverted. The actual act of reversion is not one that I'm going to discuss. I want to discuss the use of a descriptive edit summary. Please use one when reverting good faith edits. Protonk (talk) 00:01, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Umm if you know how many vandalism we go through daily, you'll know I was only trying to help. I can put a summary in next time. Please don't lose any sleep over it. Benjwong (talk) 00:04, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- It's fine. Reverting vandalism is awesome and requires no edit summary. Thanks for the self-revert. Protonk (talk) 00:10, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Umm if you know how many vandalism we go through daily, you'll know I was only trying to help. I can put a summary in next time. Please don't lose any sleep over it. Benjwong (talk) 00:04, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- I can do both. But their inability to perfectly format references isn't a problem. that's what makes the "wiki" part of wikipedia work. What is a problem is when that content is removed and that content contributor given no reason for the removal. You could have formatted the references. You could have added a tag suggesting that the section or paragraph needed work. You could have done nothing. But you reverted. The actual act of reversion is not one that I'm going to discuss. I want to discuss the use of a descriptive edit summary. Please use one when reverting good faith edits. Protonk (talk) 00:01, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Don't you think you should be approaching that user on how to properly do references instead?? Benjwong (talk) 23:49, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I'm not being clear. When you revert a user's good faith contributions, use an edit summary that explains why. This has nothing to do with whether or not you choose to revert them, though I disagree with your decision to do so here. Is that more clear? Protonk (talk) 23:44, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
I have reverted my own changes. If you want to fix it, please jump in. I'll umm pretend it is not on my watchlist. Benjwong (talk) 00:07, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Brackets?
Hey Benjwong, long time no see! I see that you've been checking out the History of the Han Dynasty article. What do you think? I also just created the Economy of the Han Dynasty article, and plan to create others for the Han Dynasty like I did for the Song Dynasty.
Anyways, I noticed that you added brackets to all the Chinese characters throughout the article. I was wondering why you found that necessary. Is there a Wiki guideline you can provide a link to which says that this is necessary? Becuase I followed the same model of not adding brackets for Chinese characters in Economy of the Han Dynasty. I'd like to keep things as uniform as possible throughout all the Han articles.--Pericles of AthensTalk 20:38, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Ah! I just took a peek at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (use of Chinese language), and they do use brackets like you do. Nevermind!--Pericles of AthensTalk 20:42, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oh I always follow that bracket convention. I really don't know if it's preferred or even necessary. But I do it anyways. If that convention page say it is ok, then I guess is ok. Yeah I read alot of those dynasty articles. They are pretty good. Benjwong (talk) 20:57, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Televison cultural building
Thank you for our work on the Television cultural building. I do have a small isue. Although the page is shaping up nicely, you did not get consensus for the merge. It is bad form to go ahead with a merge especially when a case against it is made without acheiving full consensus. Please in the future contribute to the discusssion prior to merging and then after acheiving it do the merge. Thank you. Presently I do think a change in the title should be made to illustrate that it is a disaster Ottawa4ever (talk) 14:50, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- Hi I thought you guys had the concensus on the talk page? I was helping out with the merge. There did not seem to be disagreement with having just 1 article. You can change the article to whatever you like. However, I would say this is not a disposable residential building. There is a possibility that this gets rebuilt. So treat it like a building article please. Benjwong (talk) 17:30, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- I do think that an article just about the fire and investigation is needed. If they rebuild put it in a building article, but I doubt it would be the same building. Anyway as i said before the article is shaping nicely but eventually i see it seperating as two articles if not now shortly. The investigation from this will lead to alot of development in fire engineering despite how much a certain government would like there to be no coverage. Not to go into it too much right now, but why would a building like this not collapse fully developed in fire opposed to a building like wtc7 of same size but smaller fire. There are structural engineering explanations to this and they will come out as well as controversy surronding them. And if they rebuild a seperate building article would be useful for the new construction refering to a fire from before. ThanksOttawa4ever (talk) 19:35, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- If you have enough to add, I guess you can split the article. However, it'll all fit in one page for now. Somebody must have seen the need to merge and tagged it. Like I was cleaning up the article. Benjwong (talk) 00:38, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
- I do think that an article just about the fire and investigation is needed. If they rebuild put it in a building article, but I doubt it would be the same building. Anyway as i said before the article is shaping nicely but eventually i see it seperating as two articles if not now shortly. The investigation from this will lead to alot of development in fire engineering despite how much a certain government would like there to be no coverage. Not to go into it too much right now, but why would a building like this not collapse fully developed in fire opposed to a building like wtc7 of same size but smaller fire. There are structural engineering explanations to this and they will come out as well as controversy surronding them. And if they rebuild a seperate building article would be useful for the new construction refering to a fire from before. ThanksOttawa4ever (talk) 19:35, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Mainland China
Due to the terrible state of the article I decided to "be bold" and add in some information. I tried to be as politically neutral as possible. Please feel free to question or remove anything that you believe is contentious or incorrect. Colipon+(T) 00:47, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- I tried finding some sources. Again, it is general knowledge that Taiwanese do not use the term "Neidi", but some people demand a source for this. Most official documents in HK and Macau refers to Mainland as "Neidi". I have one such document as the source. Hope that suffices. Colipon+(T) 00:52, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
New Star ship incident
People called the ship by the English name of New Star? Is there any name else? 98.119.177.171 (talk) 06:51, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- That is what the news calls it. Benjwong (talk) 08:27, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Bu Zheteng(不折騰)
The above is getting very popular in the internet, may be we should create a wiki: Bu Zheteng?
Also Wen Jiabou quoted 同舟共济(Tong Zhou Gong Zhi), may be an new article too? Arilang talk 13:20, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry I probably won't work on this article. Good luck if you try to create one. Benjwong (talk) 01:06, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
haiyantang
I am confused, could you mind tell me about the connection between haiyantang and four olds. Mousega (talk) 07:27, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- Hi. They both have to do with the loss of cultural relics/traditional objects. Benjwong (talk) 00:55, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Deletion spree?
Hi, I think you are confusing me with some other user. I am User:Yaan, and I use exactly the same login on commons. Your message at my talk page seems to have been directed at some User:Yann, whom I know nothing about. Regards, Yaan (talk) 13:04, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Unsourced or poorly sourced possibly defamatory info about living persons.
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Tagging
You said: [1]
benjwong, this is not excessive tagging. All of these unsourced sections need references. If you want to remove the tags, please provide references. Each paragraph should get one reference minimum. The same reference can be used multiple times. If it feels very "in your face," good. The lack of references is a problem, and it needs to be fixed.
Please understand that Wikipedia is evolving, and we are demanding higher and higher standards from our articles. WhisperToMe (talk) 02:41, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
- Each paragraph needs an inline reference so that each piece of information is attached to a reference. You may use the same reference more than once (this is why "refname" exists) - You said: "I find it really strange. I'll revert it for now." - No, Benj, that is the wrong thing to do. Please stop doing that.
The correct thing to do is to reference each unreferenced piece of information.
I will say this again: The frequency and placement of the tags in my revisions is 100% appropriate and justified; it is not excessive. If you do not want these tags to exist, please add inline references to each and every tagged section! Please consult: Wikipedia:Citing sources and Wikipedia:V. WhisperToMe (talk) 18:16, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
- BTW - Thanks for telling me about those other articles. I'll go tag them too WhisperToMe (talk) 18:34, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you very much - that one was totally unreferenced. WhisperToMe (talk) 21:51, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Salt Monopoly?
Hi Benjwong;
I posted a suggestion on the Song Dynasty talk page that this is a neglected topic which needs to be coordinated through a number of articles. It would be great to get your help on this! Maybe as a senior Wikipedian you could mentor BZ on how to do it? ch (talk) 16:42, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry I know little about song. I just know that huge chunk was added with no source. Also no other country page mention about business monopolies to this extent. Benjwong (talk) 03:22, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
- I have no idea what the person who added the material wants to do, but I just thought the topic was interesting and important. So if they don't do anything, maybe I'll cut down this addition to the Song article to two or three sentences, add links to the mentions of the Salt Monopoly in the Han and Tang articles and to the references in other Song articles. I found a book on the subject which I think I can get hold of. If I get ambitious, I may start a short article on Salt Monopoly (China), maybe with links to the references in French and German history. Thanks. ch (talk) 03:26, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I added this material and simply did not know how to post my source as it is entirely from "Salt and State" by Cecelia Chien-Fang. If you could help me get something about the Salt monopoly added (a huge topic in Song China) I would much appreciate it and I believe wikipedia would be much better off as a result.
Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by BZsupershot5 (talk • contribs) 17:43, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry I really don't know enough about the Song to help you on this monopoly topic. I am trying to keep articles in good shape clean. Anyhow that seems like an economy subject. Benjwong (talk) 05:47, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Noticeboard
The argument seem to have subsided in the Bio Noticeboard. I take that as a sign I can undo the last change in Edison's article. What do you think? Or should I wait for a close first. but I suspect someone will close it as "no consensus". Dengero (talk) 01:52, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- I guess is ok to put it back if nobody else disagrees. You should undo it, since I already reverted many times. Benjwong (talk) 03:25, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
RE: Deleted fama
I've restored the article as the proposed deletion policy allows. - Rjd0060 (talk) 04:14, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Edison Chen
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Thanks. --Madchester (talk) 16:16, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
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Han Dynasty...is...complete...finally! Lol.
Han Dynasty.--Pericles of AthensTalk 20:52, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- That is really well done wow. I am interested in the beginning of that dynasty. I'll be sure to check it out. Benjwong (talk) 02:42, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm. The article has seen a lot of changes in the past two weeks. You should definitely take another look. Cheers.--Pericles of AthensTalk 17:11, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
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Tiananmen Incident
I have a question about an edit you made to the Tiananmen Incident page a couple of years ago. Under the "Mourning" section, a sentence currently reads,
- "On April 4, for example, hundreds and thousands of Beijing residents came to the square to lay wreaths at the Monument."
The wording "hundreds and thousands" strikes me as strange (why not just "thousands"?). As far as I can tell, it read "hundreds of thousands" until your edit of 02:39, 15 May 2007. Was your change of meaning inadvertent, or do you have reason to believe that there were only "hundreds and thousands" of wreath layers that day, not "hundreds of thousands"? I want to check with you before reverting "and" back to "of". Cheers,Phlar (talk) 04:21, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
- Ok if you mean this edit. I did not add any thing. I just cleaned up. Benjwong (talk) 02:13, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
- Your cleanup is very good and makes the article much more readable. Sorry, I should have been more clear in my question above. This version saved by you on 15 May 2007 reads "On April 4, for example, hundreds and thousands...." The immediately previous version dated 12 May 2007 reads "On April 4, for example, hundreds of thousands...." I'm thinking "hundreds and thousands" could be reverted back to "hundreds of thousands". Phlar (talk) 04:45, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
- Yah you can revert it. Grammar errors. Benjwong (talk) 04:48, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
- OK, thanks! Phlar (talk) 14:37, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
- Yah you can revert it. Grammar errors. Benjwong (talk) 04:48, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
- Your cleanup is very good and makes the article much more readable. Sorry, I should have been more clear in my question above. This version saved by you on 15 May 2007 reads "On April 4, for example, hundreds and thousands...." The immediately previous version dated 12 May 2007 reads "On April 4, for example, hundreds of thousands...." I'm thinking "hundreds and thousands" could be reverted back to "hundreds of thousands". Phlar (talk) 04:45, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
- Ok if you mean this edit. I did not add any thing. I just cleaned up. Benjwong (talk) 02:13, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
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- Remove it. Benjwong (talk) 05:28, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Removal of unresolved issue tags
Please do not remove commented tags about unresolved article issues, as you did on Cui Qun.[3] Also please consider the proper use of edit summaries to support your actions in a collaborative environment. Thanks, — The Little Blue Frog (ribbit) 11:26, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
- Ok this has to be a mistake. There are 13 references on that page. Also there are no unresolved issues anywhere. Benjwong (talk) 02:37, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
- No mistake, and the inlined annotations (in addition to the instructions in the issue boxes) made it crystal clear. Restored with further tag for primary sources and OR. Address those tags instead of deleting them: most of all those articles won't pass AFD. — The Little Blue Frog (ribbit) 04:12, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
- I left a message at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Repeated removal of annotated unresolved issue tags. Please continue there. Do not write anymore here. Benjwong (talk) 04:26, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
- No mistake, and the inlined annotations (in addition to the instructions in the issue boxes) made it crystal clear. Restored with further tag for primary sources and OR. Address those tags instead of deleting them: most of all those articles won't pass AFD. — The Little Blue Frog (ribbit) 04:12, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
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At the risk of getting you into another dispute (and you are more than free not to get involved on this), take a look at Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know/TangTalk. It's astounding to me when people criticize sources that they don't know enough about. --Nlu (talk) 03:12, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
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Hi, I was planning on editing a portion of the Chiyou article which you had contributed to. I have listed my reasons in the talk page [4], but before I make any changes, I would like to get your comments on it if possible. Thank you whipsandchains (talk) 18:54, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Another new article
Please check and add content to Nucai thanks Arilang talk 02:44, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
- I might fix it up a bit. But I probably don't have much to add. Benjwong (talk) 05:23, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
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Naming convention for Chinese foods and usages of Wikitionary
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Could you add some information to the article that is not up for AfD because I don't read simplified Chinese, and could not find sources easily. Your help would be appreciated.--Caspian blue 18:09, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Your additions in Chinese language reverted
You reversion in Anita Mui fails WP:BURDEN. "The source should be cited clearly and precisely to enable readers to find the text that supports the article content in question." You re-added 8,000 bytes of non-English text that cannot be read by the bulk of English Wikipedia readers, nor checked. Piano non troppo (talk) 05:15, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- If it was 8,000 bytes of English text, would you delete it? Benjwong (talk) 05:20, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
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- I see you undid my edit. The text currently there does not meet Wikipedia policy, as full sentences are copied and pasted from the sources. The sources are not public domain, and are therefore under copyright, and cannot be copied word for word. See a recent Signpost dispatch: Even if contributors provide a citation for a sentence, it may still be plagiarism if they do not clearly indicate with quotation marks the duplication of the source's wording. Shubinator (talk) 02:58, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
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- Having finished the first morning matters, I've gone on ahead and rewritten this material to separate it from the source. Again, the problem is in using language directly from the sources, which we cannot do, even if we say where it came from, unless it conforms to WP:NFC. In US law, credit is insufficient to eliminate copyright concerns. Wikipedia's rules for allowing copyrighted text to be incorporated into articles do require explicitly marking copied text and also using copied text in limited circumstances. I'm watching your talk page if you'd like to discuss this further. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:14, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
- Ok thanks for fixing the article. Benjwong (talk) 01:50, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
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