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Approval of alternate vpbot client
Hello there! I'm writing on the occasion that I have decided to pick up work on an alternate (and possibly multiplatform) client for the VP2 network. While I know that Eagle is writing a client of his own, I know it's Java-based. Since I have recently problems with JVM on my Ubuntu box, I'd like to write a pythonized version or maybe a plugin for my favourite Xchat. Yet, while Ethereal-sniffing communication between the clients and the bot (I need to work out the protocol's details) I came across User:Sagaciousuk, who (to say the least) didn't find the idea worth pursuing. He kicked me from the rc channel and revoked my approval citing "being precautious" and needing you to approve of it. So, let's. I hereby seek your approval and blessing. My project may well fail due to lack of time, but can I please at least have a shot? :-) Regards, Misza13 20:00, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
Minun banned from Wikipedia
User:Minun has been banned by the Arbitration Committee here for sockpuppetry, page move vandalism, and misrepresentation of a speedy deletion to delete incriminating evidence. I have posted this at VandalProof Abuse as well. Nwwaew(My talk page) 14:05, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
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Mind if I use VandalProof? Thanks (even if you say no). Drahcirmy talk 01:26, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
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Richwales unable to get VandalProof to work (login fails)
Hi. Despite repeated attempts, I am completely unable to get VandalProof to work for me at all. Every time, it says that my login request has failed (after a long wait for retrieval of the user list). I've tried launching VP while logged in to my Wikipedia account on both Firefox and IE. I've also logged in to Wikipedia via the link in the VP page (by clicking the link in the yellow box which offers suggestions of what to do if logging in fails), but I still end up with the same "log-in request failed" error. Xyrael tried some things to fix the problem, but none of them worked. I'm trying to use version 1.2.2 of VP. Can you help? Richwales 16:07, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
- Hi. Is there any hope that this problem will ever be fixed? If not, I guess I'll just forget about the idea of using VP. Richwales 17:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
can't log in to VP
Hello. I seem to be unable to log into VP, and I have no idea why. Whenever I try to log in, VP either crashes or (more often) gives the "Your log-in request failed" message. The latter occurs after I first get the "login succesful" note from WP. The application worked just fine previously, but this problem appeared a while ago. --AAikio 17:27, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- Hi, I also had the problem you describe last night. However, I persisted, and on the third attempt, it did not crash. --BostonMA talk 18:20, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
VandalProof waiting list
Whats going on with the VandalProof waiting list? Its been static for at least a week now. Nwwaew(My talk page) 19:30, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- I noticed this too. I can go through the list for you, if you're too busy: just let me know what the requirements are (if more than the typical no vandalism, 250 main edits, etc.) and I'll make a list of who meets it and who doesn't. I'm not busy this weekend, got lots of time ;-) — Editor at Large(speak) 02:49, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, I was wondering why my application (and a bunch of others) from around a week back hadn't been approved. Ah well, it gave me the chance to well and truly (nearly 450 edits) be able to apply for it. SMC 07:41, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Your userpage
I can't access your userpage. Why? --AAA! 03:18, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
VandalProof modding
Hey AmiD
As you probably have noticed, since losing my mod abilities in VP the list has gotten a tad backlogged. Not sure if there's anything you can do, Eagle reports he has the same prob in 1.2.2 due to the space in our names.
But I really wanna help so maybe we start loading them onto VP 2??? At the least may I be enabled as a mod on VP2 plz? On IRC now if ya wanna chat Glen 00:34, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
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Conflict in need of resolution/request for comment
You are requested to offer your comment in the dispute, involving inter alia your name, outlined here. Thank you. — Prof02 09:49, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
- Since there has been no response from you in over a week now, I would like to invite you to revert your action of 13 September 2006, by removing the Erich Heller article from the main space and merging it with my article on the user subpage, in order to restore the latter’s integrity, including the integrity of its history and authorship, and to bring it to the status it had before 03.33 UTC on 13 September 2006 — thereby allowing me control over its transfer to the main article space, etc. I lack technical knowledge to revert your action by myself (although I am otherwise perfectly capable of moving articles from my user subspace). Thank you. — Prof02 06:26, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Wingin' It (Comedy)
I wrote an article on Wingin' It, a high school improv group in Carlisle, PA. I believe this article is notable enough to keep as Wingin' It is well known within central Pennsylvania. They are the first high school improv group in Central Pennsylvania and likely to be the model for improv comedy groups in surrounding high schools. They work with the group at Dickinson College and perform outside of school regularly. Any group of pioneers, however local, deserve at least a small mention.
Thank you for your time and effort. Phoenix15 23:49, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Mac
It wouldbe very nice if you get get your program to work on an OSX Mac, using either Safari or Firefox. I recongize this may be too much work for a specialized program, but if there were one, more could help. DGG 00:31, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
hi AmiDaniel.... my name is Aghiel, I'm from Balikpapan, East Borneo, Indonesia
VandalProof
Hello, i'm interesting with VandalProof. I would like to developpe it on WP FR. For the moment i translate the page in french to explain to french contributers what is VandalProof. Here is my user page on WP FR : fr:Utilisateur:Leag. I'm sysop since 6 months and i have more than 9500 mainspace edits. You can tell me what to do to make VandalProof working on French wikipedia. You can contact me here. Thanks Leag 16:34, 24 October 2006 (UTC) Excuse me for my bad english :)
- Well, I'm currently working on a program similar to VandalProof but with many more gizmos that will be usable on any foundation wiki, but it won't be available for another couple of months. However, VP1.3 has the ability to be easily adapted for multiple wikis. If you, or someone else, would be willing to spend some time translating string tables, I'd have no problem adapting it for frwiki. I'll try to get back to you in a few days, but if I don't, please feel free to nag me. AmiDaniel (talk) 18:00, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- No problem for string tables translation. What should i do to request permission to use VandalProof for frwiki? I must register here or not? Thanks Leag 18:48, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- I'll be far away from my computer for one week. You can give the string table after november the 3rd. Thanks Leag 09:32, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
VandalProof
I would like to join VandalProof,too. Can you tell me how??--Patrickrox11 14:27, 28 October 2006 (UTC)Patrickrox11
VandalProof
The VandalProof software doesn't work AT ALL on my computer. The Recent Changes list is ALWAYS empty. What's the problem? I'm using 1.3 --¿¡Exir Kamalabadi?!Join Esperanza! 10:36, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
No Response?
I've been trying to use VandalProof for over 2 weeks now, and have had no luck. I've posted two messages on the discussion page (Under "Not being recognized"), but have received no responses. It seems that a number of other people are having similar problems. Can you please respond so that we can try to get these problems resolved? Thanks --MrBoo (talk, contribs) 00:49, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
No Response?
I've been trying to use VandalProof for over 2 weeks now, and have had no luck. I've posted two messages on the discussion page (Under "Not being recognized"), but have received no responses. It seems that a number of other people are having similar problems. Can you please respond so that we can try to get these problems resolved? Thanks --MrBoo (talk, contribs) 00:49, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Vandalproof on huwiki
Hi! I would like to ask you to make Vandalproof available to use on huwiki in some form. Translation of string tables would not be a problem. Thank you for your help. --Dami 21:01, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
VandalProof Errors
Several users including me seems to be having problems running VP. It would be much appreciated if you could weigh in on the VP discussion on any ideas as to what's causing these problems. -- ßottesiηi (talk) 21:15, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
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VandalProof
Hi AmiDaniel, What's going on with VandalProof? I can't even get it to load anymore. I used to have no problem with it. Now I can't even get it to fully load. Any ideas? Firsfron of Ronchester 02:29, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Conflict in need of resolution/request for comment
You are requested to offer your comment in the dispute, involving inter alia your name, outlined here. Thank you. — Prof02 09:49, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
- Since there has been no response from you in over a week now, I would like to invite you to revert your action of 13 September 2006, by removing the Erich Heller article from the main space and merging it with my article on the user subpage, in order to restore the latter’s integrity, including the integrity of its history and authorship, and to bring it to the status it had before 03.33 UTC on 13 September 2006 — thereby allowing me control over its transfer to the main article space, etc. I lack technical knowledge to revert your action by myself (although I am otherwise perfectly capable of moving articles from my user subspace). Thank you. — Prof02 06:26, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia has clear procedures on moving pages. Other than in exceptional circumstances all pages should be moved by following the instructions on the Requested Moves page. Unilateral moves can trigger edit wars, break links and cause a lot of problems. Please stop unilaterally moving pages and follow the correct procedure.
Please do not edit the user pages of other contributors without their approval or consent. It may be seen as vandalism. If you would like to experiment, please visit the sandbox.
- Please re-merge the Erich Heller article in the main space with the article on my user subpage, User:Prof02/Erich_Heller, from which you originally truncated it on 13 September 2006 — and thereby restore the full integrity of the article in userspace. Please do not archive this section before the dispute is resolved. — Prof02 07:03, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Deletion reason for Google Talk (game)?
I was trying to find this page again today, and had to look at the history of Google Talk to find the link. Unfortunately the deletion log of the page doesn't give much information ("5 day-old uncontested PROD"). Could I get the original reason for the PROD, please?
By the way, WP:PROD currently says, "If you agree that the article should be deleted, delete it giving an informative deletion reason, such as that given by the nominator, not just expired prod.", and has had a similar message since at least a month before this deletion.--FunnyMan 21:45, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Hey, there. Wondering if you had any comment or input on this user's current unblock request, since I saw you blocked the specified IP as an open proxy on 12 September 2006. Unfortunately I don't know enough about them proxy doodads to really look into this one. Luna Santin 03:11, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
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VP abuse/incompetence
Re: WP:VandalProof#Abuse "If you observe anyone making questionable edits with this tool, using this tool in an edit war, or otherwise misusing the tool, please contact me immediately."
One of your users use VP for violating WP:REVERT (wholesale reversion of an edit he objects to a part thereof, and wrongly at that) as well as WP:MOSDAB and WP:FAITH, plus all due process for checking actual vandalism before reverting and suppressing content. And I'm not the only one who seem to complain about wholesale reversions, this user seem to have fun or up his edit count by preying on wikignomes -- in other words, a gun in the hands of an incompetent.
(I dunno if your documentation mentions WP:REVERT and not throwing the baby with the bathwater, but if not, it should.)
→ Complete case at User_talk:Dina#Stop_your_revert-vandalism
-- 62.147.39.202 04:42, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
AmiDaniel: This entire thing is about one revert I made last night, with a spam0 warning. There's lots to read through to get the gist of it (on my talk page, AN/I, Afd and here), and I imagine you might not care to. However, please feel free to make any constructive criticism about my use of VP on my talk page and I will of course take it very seriously. I'd like to suggest, however, that my previous record with VP (including this contentious edit) is hardly "a gun in the hands of an incompetent". Sigh. Cheers. Dina 15:40, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi. Will you please revert to earlier edition Imelda Marcos. User Angeles deleted most of the older edition and wrote her own biased version. thanks.
Your changes to the CVU article are as pointless as what you deleted.
I was disappointed in the changes that you made to the CVU wiki article.
A cursory glance at the article shows that it doesn't have much or any substantial information about CVUHS. If you're going to make arm chair "improvements" to it you might as well delete the entire thing except the link to www.cvuhs.org.
Instead you went ahead and self righteously deleted the only thing that made the whole page worth reading. I don't know why, you probably thought you were doing a service to wikipedia. It must be a really dull world where they don't have humor = (.
I'm not looking to start an "edit war" with you over this, so I'm asking you to voluntarily return the CVU article to it's version before you changed it. Thanks!
Sir Smith 02:43, 3 November 2006 (UTC)Sir Smith
Imelda Marcos
Please revert the article Imelda Marcos to older edit by Genesis08 of 24 October 2006. Angeles624 rewrote the whole article. KaElin 04:10, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the cleanup/revert by these silly anon IP people ! --Mikecraig 04:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
VP Ongoing Issue
For some reason my name has been removed from the list of authorized users. I was added by Betacommand here [1], and he welcommed me here[2]. I had difficulties using it, did everything I could myself, was unable to, so I requested assistance here [3]. Instead of assistance, I was removed from the list. Because I have had difficulties on wikipedia recieving help from administrators when requested, this message is in essence a generic template I am writing on all moderators' talk pages and discussion boards in the hopes of recieving if nothing else a response - ideally, however, a solution. Thank you very much and apologies for my impatience. Gregorof/(T) 05:20, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
VandalProof mod
I was informed previously that there was a glitch which made it so I couldn't approve users (most likely because I changed my username). Has this been fixed yet?--TBCΦtalk? 16:21, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
You protected this page in June. I am unable to edit this page. I cannot revert vandalism by 134.173.173 to earlier version. Any help is appreciated. Siddiqui 21:11, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
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Help us AmiDaniel!
As noted many times on your talk page and by many people here, we can't get into vandalproof anymore and need your help in fighting the vandals! --Daniel Olsen 17:42, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
User:Wizardry Dragon and VP2
I'm afraid there is mounting evidence that User:Wizardry Dragon is unable to use VP2 properly and is instead utilizing it to revert edits he disagrees with. I'm also concerned about his failure to understand what is vandalism on Wikipedia and how it's different from content disputes. Please see here, here, and here for several users, including myself, pointing out to his inappropriate reverts and vandalism accusations. Beit Or 18:33, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
checkuser clerk
Please check out my comments at Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Clerks/Noticeboard. Thanks. Thatcher131 00:28, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
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History Cleaning
You missed this one in your history cleaning. Kavadi carrier 09:23, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know .. it slipped in there while I was completing the last history purge. Should all be cleaned up now -- hopefully that'll be the last time I have to do that :D. AmiDaniel (talk) 09:51, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
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Vandal Bashing
I hereby award you this Vandal Whacking Stick for your service in defense of Virtuti Militari. In whose zealous pursuit you managed to briefly place a redlink as the frontpage link to today's featured article, an occurrence which I have never before witnessed on Wikipedia. Quite memorable. Good job beating back the vandals; keep it up. Dragons flight 10:09, 7 November 2006 (UTC) |
- Thank you :D. I haven't gotten one of these in a while .. I suppose I'll have to open up User:AmiDaniel/Awards again. Glad someone thinks I did alright :). AmiDaniel (talk) 16:25, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Spoil Sport
I hate to rain on your parade, but current policy states that we should not semi-protect the day's featured article. --Robdurbar 12:45, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
- Hmm, just re-read that and it sounds a bit arsey. I mean, well done for all the stuff you did earlier, its just that you left it to be protected for 2 hours at the end of it. --Robdurbar 15:59, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, I'm well aware of the policy on sprotect; however, these were unique circumstances (note that I removed over 180 vandalistic edits from the page, many of which were committed even while semiprotected, during four separate history purges). Unfortunately, the semi-protection was absolutely vital, and it may well have been better to even full protect for a short while. It remained s-protected for suprising only two hours, considering that the vandal was still at work well over an hour into the sprotection before he tired out. I'm sorry you disagree with my decision, but frankly I don't. AmiDaniel (talk) 16:20, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
AmiDaniels, please revert to MER-C's modification
Concerning this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/CANUSA_Flag
A rather insulting part by MER-C was removed by him at my request
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MER-C#Please_restrain_yourself_from_making_fun_of_other_users
Please revert it back to what he did
Thank you
Duhman0009 13:02, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry, but archives are typically kept for historical purposes, and I do not believe it acceptable to blank it just because a remark was made that you found off-color. The only way anyone will ever arrive at that page again is by following deletion logs, which will likely only occur in the case of a DRV. Put it behind you, and move on. AmiDaniel (talk) 16:24, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
- Put it behind you say? Are you asking me for something that you would be willing to do in the same situation, or that you wouldn't be willing to, even at your current Wikipedia user level? Duhman0009 18:45, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Removed from vandalproof request
Hi, I was removed from the "request for approval" list at the vandalproof, and not put on either the "approved" or "denied" lists. Could you tell me why, please? Jeffpw 11:30, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
- I think you were put on the recent approval list(as was I). My question is, I downloaded VandalProof, and tried to log in and got a message saying it would not let me. Do I have to wait to be added to the permanent list ? Jcam 15:00, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
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VP Runtime '91' error
Hi, AmiDaniel, could you please look into this bug? Thanks. --AAA! (talk • contribs) 02:10, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
- See here. I know what's causing it and will hopefully have it fixed in 1.31, which will be available for download soon. Sorry about the inconvenience. AmiDaniel (talk) 03:59, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm not on the VandalProof appoved list
I was sent the message that I was appoved, but I'm not on the list and VandalProof is not letting me log on. —Jonathan D. Parshall (talk • contribs) 08:35, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
- See [4]. It appears some users got lost when I brought the VP1.22 userlist over to the VP1.3 system, as somehow users weren't be approved by mods for 1.22. I'll try to add you right away. Sorry about the inconvenience. AmiDaniel (talk) 08:49, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, I suspected you weren't on the list. I've added you again. AmiDaniel (talk) 08:56, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
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VandalProof corrupt user list
I've recently also gotten errors telling me that I'm not on the user list, and then later, that the list was corrupt. Thinking that it was something on my side, I traced VandalProof to the VandalProof "L" page, of which the encryption is apparently corrupted, perhaps due to something wrong with the reverts? Hope it gets fixed soon! Ddcc 02:22, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
VP kicked me out!
When I try to log onto VP 1.3, it says I'm not on the user list. What's going on? --AAA! (talk • contribs) 04:00, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Vandal Proof
Can Vandal Proof software be downloaded and used on other wikis ? Johnson C Philip 13:48, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
I need some assistance with an RfC
You have been mentioned in an RfC that I am currently taking care of. Would you mind taking a look? Thanks! :: Colin Keigher (Talk) 22:28, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- Sure, I'll take a look at it later this evening. AmiDaniel (talk) 22:57, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks. :: Colin Keigher (Talk) 23:03, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Anything you could do?
Hello AmiDaniel, I recently applied for permission to use VandalProof, and that was before I read that you need 250 mainspace edits. I try to clean up vandalism when I can, but It'll be some time before I have that many edits, as I'm not on Wikipedia all the time. Is there anyway you could help me out with being able to use VandalProof? Thanks, Ardo 01:11, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
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VandalProof
Hi, I appear to have been delisted. Reading the above regarding new version, could you add me back please. Thanks --Billreid 10:01, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
User List Bug
There is currently a very bothersome user list bug that is affecting many VP users.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 19:28, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, I'm aware. Please see this. I can't do anything about it right now, but you can add your name to User:AmiDaniel/VP/Approval, where a mod shuld process you promptly, or you can join #vandalproof on irc.freenode.net, where you should be able to get immediate assistance from someone. Sorry about the inconvenience. AmiDaniel (talk) 19:34, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Access to VandleBot Source?
Hey AmiDaniel, I was wondering if you'd allow me the pleasure of porting VandleBot to Unix-like operating systems? If so, would it be possible if I could get my hands on the VandleBot VB source? If you're interested, I'm intending to use Gambas to write the port. Many thanks. --darkphase 13:49, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
- I presume you mean VandalProof, and not vandal bots, such as User:Tawkerbot2. VP seems to run perfectly fine under wine; thus, I have no intention of attempting a unix port. I am, however, currently porting VP2 out to Java, which will be GPLed, opensource, and runnable on any reasonable operating system with the Java jre1.5.0_07 or later installed. You may be more interested in working with that project or using source code from that project instead. If you would like source code for VP1.x, I'd be glad to get it to you; however, I would like to note that due to issues of legality (regarding MS components) and security, the project is not GPL, but rather is closed-source and copyright me. If you're given the source code, you must agree not to publish the code or to use any part of the application without first consulting me (not because I'm a control freak, but because there are various legal and security issues you may not be aware of). I'd much prefer that you build off of other opensource projects, such as VandalSniper or JVP2, than off of VandalProof 1.x. I'd also like to note that I'm working on a project named WikiMonitor, which will likely be GPLed (though, if it cannot be, it will in any case be opensource), and may be more helpful to you than the VP source. AmiDaniel (talk) 20:17, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Vandalism Report
User:164.58.144.22 has committed yet another act of vandalism, this time directed at the David Hall article, which I have since reverted. --TommyBoy 19:44, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
- Please report vandals to WP:AIV, where they're likely to get a much faster response than simply notifying one or two admins who may or may not currently be on. AmiDaniel (talk) 20:09, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks!
AmiDaniel, thanks for approving me so I can use VandalProof. I really appreciate your thoughtfulness. It is my hope that I will make good use of this tool on Wikipedia. Thanks again, AnupamTalk 07:04, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, no problem. Sorry about the delay in approving you :). We've had some administrivia issues as of late, and I've had no time. I hope you find it useful. AmiDaniel (talk) 07:10, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
- I am back from break (long story) so I will be able to resume moderating now. Great job with 1.3 BTW. Still no button to inform a user that they are not approved though. Prodego talk 16:12, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
Do we need to moderate manually now? My mod tools are linking to the old 1.2 list. Prodego talk 16:15, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
- Hmm it looks like it can't be done manually. Is something wrong in my program? Prodego talk 21:06, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
- Alright I have figured out what is going on. My Awaiting Approval list does not load, but other then that the mod tools work. Do you know why this might be? Prodego talk 21:18, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
Re application
Thank you, after having applied, I re-read the criteria for acceptance. I will apply again later.Edditor 16:20, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
1.3.1 Bugs
Alright very stable, I like it. But I did find a few things (see above):
Awaiting Aproval mod list dosen't load
Here someone adding themselves to the recently approved list isn't overriden (although that wont do anthing).
Prodego talk 21:28, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
Where should I report bugs?
Hey AmiDaniel,
Last night I downloaded your new version of VP. First things first... I love it! You've done a fantastic job on it. Vandal fighting couldn't be easier now. =)
However, I've found a couple of bugs. I saw that people seemed to be reporting them on the welcome page and followed suit, posting there myself. Today, however, I noticed the Report a Bug section of your "forums", and I was wondering if you'd perfer to have them posted there.
Let me know! Again, great job on the new VP! —Lantoka ( talk | contrib) 03:04, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Vandal proof interwiki
Hello,
I've read you're working on interwiki VP. I would really like to use this soft in lithuanian wikipedia (lt:), so I may help you as much as you need. Just let me know what kind of help exactly do you need.
best regards, --Windom 03:50, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
WikiBrowse ??
Hi ! I can't understand why you proposed this entry for deletion, this is a very useful tool for a lot of people, I have seen hundreds of times less notable products and concept included in WP, please see also my answer in the discussion page --Khalid hassani 12:15, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
VP
Hi there. I recently recieved a message stating that I had approval for using VP but I'm not on the list and so unfortunatley it won't run. Can you rectify this? Thanks Somearemoreequal 21:26, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Login problems with VP1.3
Prodego recommend me to leave a note on your talkpage. I have been approved for VP1.2 and VP2.0 and I had a "you are not on the userlist" error in VP1.3... Betacommand and Prodego readded me a few times, with no succes. Any idea what I could do, cause I really want to use VP1.3 --Deenoe 01:08, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
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Vandalproof 1.3.1
Hello AmiDaniel,
When can I get VandalProof 1.3.1? As according to the official "website" of VandalProof it was released on Nov. 17 2006 (Therefore 4 days ago, when I write this).
Just wanted to know,
Booksworm Sprechen-sie Koala? 19:25, 21 November 2006 (UTC) Never mind. Found it!
- Just had a brainwave. Why don't you use a bot like the one that broadcasts the Wikipedia Signpost? This would involve a "broadcast" of a template that announced that "There is a new version of VandalProof! Version 1.3.1!" to all people on the user list!
A bunch of Barnstars for you!
Hello there AmiDaniel!
Here are some barnstars for you!
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This is for you for your brilliant work on creating VandalProof -
For the programme to murder the trolls and other nuisances -
For a programme that will defend the wiki
Booksworm Sprechen-sie Koala? 17:10, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
WP:RFPP templates
Hi - you may know this, but Template talk:RFPP provides information to get the pre-formatted accept or decline messages to appear for some choices. Thanks - Martinp23 12:38, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, I've seen em -- don't care for them much to be honest :). I guess I'm still old fashioned, but I'll try to start using them. AmiDaniel (talk) 12:41, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
- Haha ok :P Martinp23 13:00, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
RFP for Featured Article of the Day
Sorry - I originally listed this on the RFP page but that's not the place for discussions - might I ask why FAotD are generally not at least semi-protected? The featured picture receives protection for the time it is on the front page. It just seems like a natural thing to do to allow editors to focus on building an encyclopdeia rather than protecting it in a case where a page has been made a higher priority target. Thanks for looking, though! DukeEGR93 13:56, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
- As an aside - I did read WP:NOPRO; I just think the rationale against semi-protection is awfully weak. DukeEGR93 13:59, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
- The featured picture, like the blurb about today's FA, is protected because it actually appears on the main page, which is a very high visibility page, and edits to this elements for shock value can be quite disruptive. Today's FA, and any page linked from the main page, however, is kept unprotected to encourage new editors to begin editing--while this results in much obnoxious vandalism and test editing, it also demonstrates the anyone-can-edit mentality, our great countervandalism team, and opens many eyes to the way Wikipedia works. It's primarily just an issue of visiting the main page which boasts "the encyclopedia anyone can edit!" and then immediately being led to a page with a nasty {{sprotected}} notice and a "view source" tab--doesn't reflect well on Wikipedia. Policy may soon change on this issue, but for now let's just grin and bear it. AmiDaniel (talk) 14:02, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Wr template
I'd like to know what your thoughts are on reinstating this template in some way or creating new guidelines for stopping the removal of user warnings. A vandal looking to escape a block/ban is going to ultimately learn that they only need to keep deleting the level 1 or 2 warnings (under the guise of "cleaning up" or "incorrect warnings") and anyone (like myself) who is patrolling for vandalism is not going to know that the vandal had previously been warned unless the warnings begin to stack up faster than the vandal logs in. The result is perpetually cycling at level 1 or 2 and never reaching a point where the vandal is finally temp-blocked or potentially banned. In fact, I find this sort of insidious anti-anti-vandalism often stems from the worst vandals who attempt to disguise their vandalism as hoax/overlapping edits/etc and require the greatest amount of diverse attention that makes permanent user warnings useful to other anti-vandal patrollers. I saw that you userfied the Wr template and figured you'd be a person to discuss their eventual re-use depending on how they were implemented. Thanks. ju66l3r 19:46, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
VP Approval Question
In the Awaiting Approval section, do you prefer users to add themselves at the top or bottom of the list? Tennis DyNamiTe (sign in) 22:13, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
- Probably the bottom, but it truthfully makes no difference. Generally once a mod gets around to dealing with requests on that page, s/he clears it all in one breath; the order is generally irrelevant. Unfortunately, due to some bugs in the mod tools, this process is somewhat difficult for mods at the moment, thus the delay, but we're working on sorting it out. Thanks for your patience! AmiDaniel (talk) 08:34, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
re:Robert Prechter
Thanks you for unprotecting the page Robert Prechter. I do intend to put back some of the media citations, and I do hope that they are not simply reverted again. I appreciate you saying that you'll watch the page, but will try to make sure that you don't have to watch it too hard! Smallbones 08:23, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Confirm
Confirm. PMA 09:09, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
VP Approval backlog
Hi AmiDaniel. I was a happy user of VP 1.3 and recently I'm no longer on the approved list. There also appears to be a backlog of users requesting approval. Can you have a look at it for me and see if you could approve some of us who have, for some reason, lost the approval! Cheers! Budgiekiller 14:25, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
- Same here. --AAA! (AAAA) 10:35, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Question about VandalProof
How do you make it automatically report to AIV? I've been trying... Fredil 00:06, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
1,500,000th article notice
Why'd you delete the "English Wikipedia thanks its contributors for creating 1,500,000 articles" thing on the main page? SupaStarGirl 01:56, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Problems with VP1.3
Hi AmiDaniel. I was approved for VP1.2 and VP2 and recently I downloaded VP1.3, which told me I am not on the userlist. I went to the AA list and got reapproved like.. 5 times by Betacommand and Prodego, but nothing worked. Any idea why? --Deenoe 17:42, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Dai Davies (politician)
I would argue that 3RR does not apply when I am restoring references that have been removed without comment, which is akin to vandalism. All attempts to start a discussion have been ignored. Catchpole 22:30, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- I understand why you feel that way; however, I'm going to stand by my opinion that you are both in violation of 3RR. If the user continues to edit war on the article, please contact me rather than revert lest you be blocked as well. AmiDaniel (talk) 22:35, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- Semi-protection please. [5]. Catchpole 11:53, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Re: Range blocks
Argh. Sorry I wasn't able to respond to your message sooner -- everything from holiday retail to final projects and exams at school are getting in the way, this week. There was a very serious trolling problem, including death and rape threats to users and their family members. Checkuser and IRC were involved; there was talk of police reports, as well. Before sprotecting a swath of pages, I thought I should try a short rangeblock; that didn't do the trick, so I thought I might try a longer one -- in retrospect, I should have advertised this decision more openly, should have done more to seek consensus as to the appropriate action, and should have made sure that I personally would be available to deal with the collateral damage I caused. For what it's worth, I'd like to think I learned a few lessons from this; it was at a different level than the problems I've dealt with, in the past, so hopefully I'll be prepared to respond more appropriately in the future. Let me know if there's anything more I can do, to help settle this. Luna Santin 01:15, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
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Error retrieving warnings (9)
There is a bug that dissallows loading the rollback or warning templates when looking at an article diff page (I posted the problem on the SMF forums and replied to it on the Bug forum as one of the users experiencing the problem):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AmiDaniel/VP/Bugs#.22Error_retrieving_warnings_.289.29.22
http://amidaniel.com/smf/index.php?topic=20.0 ¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 18:30, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Withdrawn
I appreciate your support, but have decided to withdraw from consideration for a position as an arbitrator. The community has overwhelming found me to be too controversial to hold that position. Thanks again for your time.--MONGO 19:49, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Your input is requested
Your input would be appreciated at this Request for Comments. Kelly Martin (talk) 15:33, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Your input is (urgently!) requested
I have created http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/Robert_Prechter in response to the furious (and quite nasty) debate at Talk:Robert Prechter and Talk:Socionomics. I would appreciate guidance as to whether I am following the proper procedure, and input on the mediation. The conflict-of-interest issue continues to be ignored or deflected by User:Rgfolsom and his edit-warring and debate with User:Smallbones are out of control. Requests to tone it down and adopt a more cooperative style have failed to have any impact. CanaryInACoalmine 10:32, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- Further, a previous attempt at Mediation failed. At what point should Arbitration be requested? CanaryInACoalmine 14:58, 8 December 2006 (UTC) 14:58, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Clerk for Requests for Checkuser
Hey AmiDaniel,
I am messaging you to ask whether you would be interested in reassuming your role as a Request for Checkuser clerk. Currently, the clerk duties are being shared among three experienced clerks, and we have added two new clerks, who are currently in the learning stage. We are currently experiencing backlogs and long waiting times for some actions to occur.
As you are currently listed under "inactive" on our clerk roster, we're asking that if you are willing to resume these clerk activities, please leave a message on my user talk page (quick link). A number of things have changed, so we reccommend re-reading Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Clerks/Guide. The guide is currently being rewritten, but the new and updated version should be available by 00:00 December 12, 2006 (UTC) at the latest.
If you aren't interested in being a checkuser clerk any longer, we accept your decision and thank you for your service; it would be greatly appreciated if you'd leave me a note that you're no longer interested. If you would like to resume your role in the future, but can't do so now, please mention so on my talk page, and I'll note this on our clerk register.
Thanks for your cooperation,
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VP problem
I can't get into vandalproof because it says I'm not on the user list, but I remember Betacommand approving me. --AAA! (AAAA • AAAAAAAA) 01:09, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
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vpbot is dead
As of current, VPBOT is not functioning. (not connecting to vp2, !vpbot status now working)
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VP2
Is VandalProof 2 active? Is there a way to volunteer for beta testing? It's a brilliant idea, wish I thought of it myself! Scienceman123 talk 03:19, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
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A problem has developed over an image at StarMetro where I've uploaded a screenshot of a bus and documented it as such. Chowbak insists that it is not to be used because a photo should be obtained by camera. Please way in and see discussion at Image talk:Star Metro01.jpg Thanks. Noles1984 23:18, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
vandal proof
When I download the new Vandal Proof and try to open it, it says Run Time Error...any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Wikipediarules2221 00:35, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Thank you
Pretty self explanatory, I would not have thought that that would be the reason though. Thanks, Prodego talk 00:20, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
vandal proof template
Does the vandal proof template protect my user page from being vandalized?
Do I need to download the entire program before I automatically add the template?
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Merry Christmas!
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Love came to a stable on that very special night to bring us out of darkness into His glorious light. May Jesus touch your life with gladness and warm your heart with love as we celebrate His birth. I hope you have a Blessed Christmas, AnupamTalk 06:14, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas, and May the Edit be with you, always. T-borg (drop me a line) 20:37, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
VP
May I please have VP power? I love fighting vandals! WikiMan53 T/C edits Review Me! 23:29, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
- Hey, why VP approvals are stopped?! Too many users are waiting for approval... --KaragouniS 00:39, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, I agree. I put my name on the approval list two days ago and still haven't received any message about it. Is everyone going on vacation or something? ~~Eugene2x Sign here ☺ ~~ 20:43, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
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Need updated Version of Vandal Proof
Hey Ami, I was on the user list previously and have been traveling around the world. I am recently back in my home however I had to reinstall Vandal Proof on my system and now it is saying I am not on the list. You can check my page and see under discussion I was listed previously. Could you kindly direct me as the appropriate procedures to get the software again. I downloaded it from the site outside of Wiki however the verification says I am not on the list... Thanks--Gnosis 17:01, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
VP
Sorry for adding my voice to what is doubtless becoming a strong chorus, but although I have been approved for Vandal Protection, I am told that I am not on the list. I don't think I'm the only one having this problem.schgooda 01:51, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
- Also sorry for nagging about the same thing, but I'm in a similar position. I was approved some time (~6 months) ago, then had to take a Wikibreak, and now find with the new version that I'm apparantly not on the member list. Regards, Chrisd87 15:20, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
VP
Hi, it seems as if though I am unable to log onto VP 1.3.1 as it says I am not on the user list. I tried restarting, redownloading, logging in and out, etc, but it is still not working. I was just recently approved. Mike6271 03:00, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
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VandalProof question
What button on VandalProof would be the quickest way to revert any vandalism that I spot on wikipedia, without having to go through the "undo" selection on an edit page, or any of the other stuff. Thanks for the help :) Whammies Were Here (PYLrulz) 07:17, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Multiple IP usage.
Hello, I have several messages saying that users from this IP have edited wikis on wikipedia, these IP's are *all* behind routers and are being sent from a secendry school in Hartlepool, England. Appoligies for the idiotic children that are plain prats.
NSF ~ cDc
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(P.S Personally I'm not a wikipedia user just yet, if you would like to contact me further then feel free to contact me through myspace) www.myspace.com/devilsmaycry —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.172.86.5 (talk) 10:42, 9 January 2007 (UTC).
WhodunitQuery
Following the invitation on the page for WhodunitQuery to improve it/clean it up, I took a copy and have revised the code significantly. This started because the program wouldn't work for me. However, I then simplified the code and took advantage of things like the new query api to make it even simpler. I have also added some extra comments. I have done virtually no checking at all (other than making sure it works for me) so I have just added an extra section to let users know an alternative version is available.
Please feel free to amend my addition as you feel fit. If you want to overwrite your version with mine then let me know so I can take my revised version off the net. --MarkS (talk) 11:07, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Using VandalProof on ar.wp!
I'm from the Arabic wikipedia, I was wondering if I can use Vandal Proof in the Arabic wikipedia..I tried to change the language code in vp to ar and login but it just didn't work..--Alnokta 11:33, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Could you please help me?
Hello. I've been approved over 15 days ago but VP 131 everytime I try to "Verify Authorization" says You are not on the User List. Could you fix it, please?--KaragouniS 18:34, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
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user list
I downloaded VandalProof, but it says that I'm not on the user list. How do I get on the user list? Bubba73 (talk), 02:42, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- I found the approval list and added my name. Bubba73 (talk), 02:53, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
VandalProof question
I just downloaded version 1.3 but for some reason it isn't pulling up the recent changes. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? Cheers! Chuchunezumi 02:06, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
- Okay, it's working fine now. No idea what the problem was. Chuchunezumi 02:20, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
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Please read your other talk pages
Do you read User talk:AmiDaniel/VP/Abuse? I would appreciate it if you'd check into this. A user playing with your VandalProof tool caused me an immense amount of intentional frustration yesterday. If there is not going to be any oversight of how it is used, I'd rather see the tool deleted. Jeffpw 18:57, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
- Eh, I know there is oversight. Jeff's pretty frustrated. I put up an adminbacklog tag there. My question would be, how long it is advisable to wait on that report before mirroring it at ANI? (I don't know if it's you who handles reports or other admins.) Sorry if we're being too impatient, but there was vandalism on the User talk:AmiDaniel/VP/Abuse page that hadn't been cleaned up for two days before I erased it, so I'm worried about the report going stale. — coelacan talk — 19:52, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
- ANI cant do anything to help. ping one of the moderators such as myself and we will take care if it as fast as we can. Only VP mods can access the approval list. Let me know and Ill handle it as fast as I can. Cheers Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 19:55, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
- PS irc://freenode/Vandalproof is a good place to contact VP mods as this is our channel —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Betacommand (talk • contribs) 19:56, 16 January 2007 (UTC).
- Righto, thanks for the tip. Maybe the Abuse page should mention the IRC channel as well? — coelacan talk — 20:28, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Need Help
A large amount of vandalision (sp) is coming from IP 68.163.27.43 who is adding nonsense/violation tags to the radio and TV pages for Pennsylvania....I am trying to correct this problem as quickly as possible but need a little assistance.
Thanks SVRTVDude 16:34, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
- Vandalism from 68.163.27.43 has stopped for the moment....I added a "Vandalism Warning" to the talk page....am keeping an eye on all the affected pages
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Moin Daniel, i saw you Userpage in the german wikipedia, stating that you are working on a Version for the german Wikipedia as well.
For the time being, v. 1.3. seems not working with de-domain. The ch-button does not work and the verifikation-button tells me that the User-List ist corrupt.
Im not approved at the moment. the question is, whether you can approve me on the english pages while I have a german account?
Maybe you could leave me a message here or by mail (should be already in you hand while typing this). Thanks a lot in advance. [[6]] Akkarin —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.50.94.72 (talk) 18:34, 25 January 2007 (UTC).
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Hi Daniel,
I'm mostly active in the Hebrew WP (he:User:Odedee). Was wondering if VP can be helpful there as well, and what it would take to make the conversion. Regards, Odedee 02:57, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Vandalproof
Hi. There's something wrong with vandalproof. I can't connect to it. Can ya get a moderator to help me out? Thanks. Power level (Dragon Ball) 15:59, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
- Please define "cant connect" Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 16:04, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
- Okay then - here's the format.
Lanuage - {en} Root - {wikipedia}
Username: {Power level (Dragon Ball)
Password:**********
And from there, I am unable to click "verify authorization" at the bottom to go in further. I'm already logged into Wikipedia.org
- So, help you help me? Power level (Dragon Ball) 16:50, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
- sometimes you have to login with Internet Explorer / repeatedly click login until you can verify authorization Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 17:35, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
- What do you mean "log in repeadedly? I just keep clickin' what button? Power level (Dragon Ball) 20:59, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
- It's still not workin'. Is it possible that it is corrupt? That's what the message box says... Power level (Dragon Ball) 05:14, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
- What do you mean "log in repeadedly? I just keep clickin' what button? Power level (Dragon Ball) 20:59, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
- sometimes you have to login with Internet Explorer / repeatedly click login until you can verify authorization Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 17:35, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
- Have you registered for authorization on the Registration page? User:AmiDaniel/VP/Approval --Indolences 08:16, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
- I just did. I didn't know that I had to sign up there though, however. Power level (Dragon Ball) 15:55, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
- Hello. I have vandalproof installed, but just don't know how to use it. Can you help me? I read what it is and all, but it doesn't teach me how ecactly to revert a page back using VP. Power level (Dragon Ball) 22:05, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
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Would you like a duck with that?
Would you? 129.241.163.33 14:51, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Nick Palumbo AfD
You closed the AfD for Nick Palumbo as "no consensus", but then you deleted the article. Are you sure this was what you wanted to do? --Eastmain 23:27, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
- Woa! No, it wasn't! Thanks for catching me on that :D. Nice to know there are people keeping an eye on me! AmiDaniel (talk) 23:30, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
VP script errors
VP is a great tool when it's not acting up. Fortunately, I've only encountered one of the dreaded "Runtime error '91'" crashes, but twice every page I get irritating script errors. I downloaded the small program you offered on one of the FAQ/Bugs/etc. pages (don't remember where it was exactly), but it doesn't improve the experience very much. Do you have any idea how you can possibly override those? Perhaps Microsoft has a way... You're welcome to check my monobook.js for any scripts known to cause these errors; in fact, I'd appreciate it. Thanks for the great work on a wonderful tool, and I hope to see this JS bug cleared up; it'll make VP even better than it is now! — Tuvok[T@lk/Improve me] 01:54, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
VandalProof
Why is there a big list of people to be approved at User:AmiDaniel/VP/Approval? I applied for approval around a week ago - still no message letting me know the outcome. --Extranet (Talk | Contribs) 06:14, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
- I apologize--there's lately been a shortage of list moderators and some technical troubles preventing the approval process from working as it was designed to. Also not helping has been my absence over the past two months, and while I currently have no where near the time for Wikipedia matters as I used to, I will be attempting to resolve these problems as soon as I possibly can. For now, I'm just going to have to ask you to be patient until I can make some repairs to the software and until one of our very few and very overworked moderators can get around to processing your request. Thanks. AmiDaniel (talk) 06:38, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
- Hi Daniel. As usual I would be more than happy to help, but, as you probably know I cant as my old username is listed as a moderator (not as Glen S but as GIen). Let me know if this changes Glen 08:32, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
- Gahh ... still? Feel free to play around with User:AmiDaniel/VP/Mods to see if you can fix that, though I will try to patch things up as quickly as possible. Sorry! :'( AmiDaniel (talk) 08:52, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
- I added "Glen_S" and removed "GIen". Prodego talk 22:32, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
- List cleared. Prodego talk 23:14, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
- Gahh ... still? Feel free to play around with User:AmiDaniel/VP/Mods to see if you can fix that, though I will try to patch things up as quickly as possible. Sorry! :'( AmiDaniel (talk) 08:52, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
- Hi Daniel. As usual I would be more than happy to help, but, as you probably know I cant as my old username is listed as a moderator (not as Glen S but as GIen). Let me know if this changes Glen 08:32, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
VandalProof v1.31
Wow, this is a poweful tool ... if I should ever request it (no doubt after one glass too many), pleased deny my request. I would be find it much too seductive :) Abtract 23:30, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
- You meet the approval criteria, so if you ever request, you will probably be approved. Prodego talk 23:35, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
VPRF Problem
I am having problems launching the VPRF application and the following information may be useful:
- 1. IE is not my default browser
- 2. I have logged on IE and selected the "Remember me" option
- 3. I have been approved
- 4. I think the problems start when I click the verification button
- 5. I use Microsoft XP Media Center Edition
Can you give me a solution to my dilemma?
dude i'm not a vandalizer
hey if you're not used to what i did to tokyo, have a look at what those bastards did to shanghai. plus, i did nothing wrong on that pluto's page, nothing, ok? use your eyes next time you administrate —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.59.220.210 (talk) 15:20, 11 February 2007 (UTC).
Dubplicating links
See this diff. Posting warning using the custom button resulting in double sentences--- is there something we can do about it? - Penwhale | Blast the Penwhale 21:37, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Request Mod Status for VP
Hi, Is there a procedure for requesting moderator rights for VP? Thanks, Jerry lavoie 02:01, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
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I'm impressed with your vandalproof program and I see my edit count rapidly growing. Besides an edit count, do you take time into consideration? I've been here for over a month. BuickCenturyDriver 09:35, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
VP etc
Thanks for your reply. I have re-read what I wrote (here) and I realise it could have been put better. Please, I hope you don’t take what I wrote as some sort of comment or criticism on how much time you spend on the project, or how you proportion it – that was not my intention, and it’s none of my business. I was simply trying to summarise the status of VP. I will post again at the VP page. Mr Stephen 23:06, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Vandalproof Acception
I've been approved see here But when i press verify nothing happens and if something does it says I'm not on the user list. Please respond on [[user talk: Wikiman53|my talk.]] WikiMan53 (talk • contribs • count) Review Me! 21:20, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Glad to see you back around and in the swing of things! That page linked in the header gives a couple of handy templates that clerks can use to make messages more consistant.
Also, if you're still interested in clerking at RFCU as well as CHU, there's been a fair number of changes. Although it's very long and heavy 9sorry about that :D), WP:RFCU/C/G details what the current procedures are.
One further note, regarding your comment here, a new MediaWiki feature was recently introduced which prevents usernames being created that are too close to already-registered users. I believe that this would be prevented due to this feature. Although administrators aren't affected by this limitation, non-admins are, and Essjay has stated that he will fufill these requests (and any other user who may have only a handful of edits)
Cheers, and welcome back (I've updated Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Clerks/Table for you), Daniel.Bryant 04:54, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
- PS: Whilst I was writing this, I noticed [7] - on WP:CHU/C, there's a perfect template for this kind of situation :) Cheers, Daniel.Bryant 04:54, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks! Sorry for my absence over the past several months--life has been quite hectic here. Though I likely won't be able to contribute nearly the time I used to, I am going to attempt to be as active as my time permits. I am definitely still interested in clerkng at RFCU--in fact, I was just about to hobble over there to see if anything needed doing--although, I do caution that I may not be capable of being completely active on either. As I said, I will do what my time permits. As for the MediaWiki change, sounds like a great implementation! Wish they'd gotten around to it sooner, and sorry I didn't know about it. It's amazing how quickly things change around here :). While I get back into the swing of things, please feel free to remove any incorrect comments I make and let me know where I'm mistaken. Thanks again for your warm welcome back :). AmiDaniel (talk) 05:01, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
- No problems about the inactivity - any help you can give is better than none at all, and I'm sure everyone appreciates how hectic life can be :) Thanks for everything, and everything you can do. By the way, if you're on IRC (now or anytime), our IRC channel #wikipedia-checkuser-clerks (+i) is very active, and there's some cool IRC bots which make our life so much easier. Just /msg Daniel-Bryant if you do use IRC (which, according to everyone I've asked, you do) so I can set you +i. Cheers, Daniel.Bryant 05:05, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Alrighty
Whoopsie. I wasn't aware of the distinction between {{sprotect}} and {{sprotect2}}. (what I'm talking about) I'll keep that in mind in the future. EVula // talk // ☯ // 06:20, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
- Not a problem; 'tis honestly not even a distinction I was aware of until a couple weeks ago. It truly doesn't make all that much of a difference--the only problem is that few realize articles tagged with {{sprotect2}} are actually protected, which means they often don't get unprotected for far too long. AmiDaniel (talk) 02:34, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Your block of SchmuckyTheCat
SchmuckyTheCat (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), whom you blocked for 3RR, is contesting their block with what appear to be defensible arguments. Would you like to comment? Sandstein 09:12, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
- Comment left on his talk page. AmiDaniel (talk) 02:32, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
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I would appreciate it if you would have someone consider me for using Vandal Proof, it's been over three days and I have yet to hear anything! Thanks for your assistance. --Nevhood 18:32, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
- I have just been added to the list! --Nevhood 04:59, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Re: VandalProof Bugs
This was a 133 bug, now fixed. Please don't add bugs to the known bugs section unless they are indeed *known* To report a bug, please visit the smf forums or the VP/Bugs page on Wikipedia.
Alright, no problem. Just trying to help. Thanks for all your hard work man. VP is a great tool. =) – Lantoka (talk) 09:55, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Opening access to the source code
I would advise you be very very careful with the semi-open source format you are using now. As I am sure you are aware, in this format there is no way for the average user to tell exactly what they are running, and the volunteers may not check each others additions. Since this program has access to a large number of passwords, the possibility of an addition that would compromise a lot of accounts is very real. Are you going to check the full code changes made by these volunteers before you release any new versions? Also, the Approval list is pretty full, is there another mod who could do this? Beta and I have been solo for some time now, Wizardry and Froth really helped, but they are both gone now... Prodego talk 22:54, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, I'm going to be very cautious in this endeavor and I will check all submissions before letting them go live. No individual user will be permitted to let a version go live unless I give him/her that permission. You too are invited to help oversee this process--should you wish, I'll gladly give you access to the project site, and I'd also ask, if you have the time, to keep an eye on the VP page and make sure no one but I puts up any download links. I would, however, add that created a bogus app to thieve passwords that has the resemblance of VP, even without the source, would not be difficult to do. As such, I do not see this as creating any more real risk. Believe me as well that the volunteers I'm giving access are being very carefully reviewed--at present time, it's just Eagle, User:Ale_jrb, and myslef. AWB, for instance, will give cvs access to just about anyone. AmiDaniel (talk) 23:43, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
- AWB operates very successfully under the same idea Wikipedia operates under, that if you give access freely, the many who make positive contributions can easily outweigh those who make negative ones. It is more risky, but has the potential of great benifits, as AWB has become. With limited access, the code is safer, but the growth potential is reduced. The system you are using is a hybrid, with the a slightly higher potential of abuse if not monitored, with a good chance of growth. As long as it is monitored, it should be quite effective. I would be happy to oversee the project, as well as watch the pages here, something I already am doing. Prodego talk 00:01, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
- I think I do want access to the source, just to oversee changes. I would certainly not make any changes (well, maybe small things I can easily figure out), since the only thing I am anywhere close to an expert in is MediaWiki. I also fail criteria 3, since I detest IRC, and can't have anything to with VP2 because of that. :D So based on my complete lack of knowledge (I will be able to read the code, but not write it), if you are still willing to let me have access, please create an account with my wiki username, and whatever password you want. Then just email me the password. Thanks, Prodego talk 01:30, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- AWB operates very successfully under the same idea Wikipedia operates under, that if you give access freely, the many who make positive contributions can easily outweigh those who make negative ones. It is more risky, but has the potential of great benifits, as AWB has become. With limited access, the code is safer, but the growth potential is reduced. The system you are using is a hybrid, with the a slightly higher potential of abuse if not monitored, with a good chance of growth. As long as it is monitored, it should be quite effective. I would be happy to oversee the project, as well as watch the pages here, something I already am doing. Prodego talk 00:01, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Please Help w/ Farm Sanctuary page
Hi, I just made several edits to the Farm Sanctuary page because many of the quotes were only part of a sentence or the actual source was not cited. It seems that 2 users, Schmucky the Cat and Ramdrake, are manipulating their edits unfairly and cleary are anti-animal rights advocates who have an agenda. I would like to request that both of them be blocked from that page. I haven't been on here very long, so please tell me what I need to do to request that. Thanks. GingerGin 19:40, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Downloading VP 1.3.4
Thanks a lot for the new release and bug fixes!! The Welcome to VP1.3.3 page says that if you accidentally downloaded 1.3.3 to go back and snag 1.3.4 but on AmiDaniel.com I can only find 1.3.3 to download. Sorry if I am missing something but, am I looking in the right place for 1.3.4? Thanks again! KatalavenoTC 01:03, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- That is the place to look. Either what is on the site is 1.3.4, but marked as 1.3.3, or the files haven't been uploaded yet. If the version marked VP 1.3.3 is working for you, use it until (and if) a version 1.3.4 is uploaded. Prodego talk 01:13, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- Gah, I updated the link, but forgot that it puts modification requests to the Downloads page in a sort of "temporary queue," and I have to go through and approve changes before they become current. Should be 1.3.4 now--note, however, that I believe 1.3.5 may be coming up quite shortly (I managed to create a couple more bugs in the process of fixing other bugs, and I believe Alex has now fixed these). AmiDaniel (talk) 03:34, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the response! Don't worry about 1.3.5... perfection sometimes takes a little time ;-) KatalavenoTC 03:58, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
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VP
Hi,
I'm having a problem with VandalProof since the time I was approved. Everytime I try to open it, it says that I'm not on the user list. Nevertheless, in my pc just left to me, it work correctly. I really don't know what to do...
I already tried to fix it with common problems (thank Prodego), like checking if the user the right one and so on.
I've also reinstalled my Operating System (Windows XP SP2) many, many times, only to try make VP works, but with no result, except with the last one, when I've managed to get it work right after the reinstallation, but one single reboot made VP not functional again.
It isn't a OS-related problem, I think, because even on Vista (with IE 7) is working nearly perfectly, I've tried it.
I've tried in an Ubuntu installation, under Wine, and it probably works, but since I've got Linux only in a Virtual Machine, it takes too much system resources (I haven't got a NASA pc ;-) ) and stuck after display the main window.
Currently, I've got no firewall at all, and in the previous installation I've managed to set correctly Zone Alarm.
I really don't know what to do :-(
Happy Editing by Snowolf(talk)CONCOI on 09:04, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- Snowolf, you have way too much time on your hands. Most users just give up after it doesn't work. But I am sure your info will be of use, since you are the first to do anything like this.
- @AmiDaniel: See this message. Prodego talk 20:20, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Deletions
I would invite you to comment on this thread where your activities are mentioned. Dragons flight 20:48, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Not completely compatible with the new warnings
I am currently using VandalProof 1.3.5. The start page claims that VandalProof is completely compatible with the new warnings, but when I click Rollback (custom), I find that the old warnings are still there. Squirepants101 21:25, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
This isn't related to the above, but I'm just wondering why VP 1.3.1 allows me to login, while 1.3.5 says I am not on the user list. Thanks for any help. --RazorICEtalk 07:04, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- Please do not direct these questions to me, but rather to the relevant bugs and discussion pages. Recent changes were made to the autorization system by User:MichaelBillington. It's possible that there may be bugs in the new system or that your name was not correctly copied from the old system to the new system. As for the previous question, the claim that it was compatible with new warnings has nothing to do with Rb Custom, but rather with the warning recognition system. I believe the new warnings were also set as the default values for the Rb Buttons as well. These changes were implemented by User:Ale_jrb. In the future, please direct these queries to the SMF forums or the on-wiki forums, where developers will be more capable of assisting you. AmiDaniel (talk) 07:14, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- Ah, alright, sorry about that. Thanks for the info. :) --RazorICEtalk 08:23, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
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Request to verify proxies
I would like to be added to Wikipedia:WikiProject_on_open_proxies/verified_users I have experience with proxies, and other forms of anonymizing IPs. Most of my edits are done as an anon so my edit count is really not that high but otherwise.... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Comperr (talk • contribs) 14:46, 4 March 2007 (UTC).
WikiMonitor icon
I came up with an icon for WikiMonitor. It may need a few changes, but other than that, I think this icon should be suitable for the app.
~~Eugene2x Sign here ☺ ~~ 21:35, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- Hey, it looks great! Thanks. I'm not going to declare it the "official" WikiMonitor logo, but it's certainly a hell of a lot better than anything I've come up with :>. AmiDaniel (talk) 07:11, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
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Anaheim Hills, again
You said to contact you if Ericsaindon2 came back to Anaheim Hills... well he's back. His new account is Weather1019. This account has edited other articles, though this is hardly the first time he's had a sock express interest in other areas. Aside from a comment on the talk page, his first edit was (of course) to insert his interpretation of non-existent boundaries into the article again. It's not quite as clear cut as most of his other socks, so I came here (rather than WP:AIV) since you're familiar with the situation. AniMate 06:52, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the notice. I checked his contribs, and it seems quite clear that he is Eric, especially with edits such as this one. Now blocked, and I'm going to go clean out his other creations. AmiDaniel (talk) 06:57, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
- The notable residents is certainly a telltale sign of Eric's, but the "boundaries" are his signature edit. Thanks for blocking, and have fun cleaning up Eric's other contributions. I suppose I should give him credit for being both consistent and persistent... but I'm just not feeling that generous. AniMate 07:05, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, persistent he definitely is--he doesn't tire easy. But it's basically him against some 900+ admins and thousands of other contributors; I have to think he'll realize at some point that this nonsense is getting him nowhere. AmiDaniel (talk) 07:10, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
- The notable residents is certainly a telltale sign of Eric's, but the "boundaries" are his signature edit. Thanks for blocking, and have fun cleaning up Eric's other contributions. I suppose I should give him credit for being both consistent and persistent... but I'm just not feeling that generous. AniMate 07:05, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
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Your (proposed?) edit to Marilyn Manson
Please see the section concerning his ties to the Church fo Satan on the discussion page. I apologize if I sound a bit harsh on this; it's been a very frustrating day. While I agree with you that his affiliation should not be in the introductory paragraph, you seem -- forgive me if I'm wrong -- to hold several misconceptions about Satanism (in the true sense of the word, not the democratically ascribed garbage on Wikipedia) as well as Manson's words. I won't repeat myself here, but if you would like sources -- including statements from several CoS officials -- then I can do that, but not presently, I'm a tad busy at the moment. Darkahn 23:14, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
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