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Deletion of Lzip
Hello Alex. I am Antonio Diaz, the author of several Free Software programs like Ocrad or Ddrescue. Some days ago I finished the first version of a lossless data compression program named Lzip. Before announcing it, I searched Wikipedia and I saw an article of the same name dedicated to an April fool's day joke.
I wrote to the author of the joke (talk) and, as he didn't respond, I spent the whole Sunday changing the article to describe the real tool. It is not my intention to become a Wikipedia editor, but I don't want my tool to be identified with a hoax, you know.
Now that you know the truth, could you please restore the Lzip article? Thanks. Ant diaz 10:21, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
- Hello Antonio. If that is indeed the case, you would have to provide reliable third party sources to prove it. Furthermore, you wrote "Diaz made the first public release of lzip, version 0.1, in August 2008." This has two problems, one a conflict of interest, and two, it shows (beta?) software, hardly encyclopedic material. Remember WP is an encyclopedia, not an advertising medium. -- Alexf42 12:05, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
I agree Lzip is not (yet) encyclopedic material, but this don't give you the right to insult me by stating in the deletion page that Lzip is a hoax. Lzip is a new project and I can't provide the sources you ask, but you can see herethat it is not a hoax. So, please change the cause of deletion of Lzip to something not derogatory to my project. Ant diaz 12:04, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
- It is not an insult but a statement of what it looked like at the time of deletion, given the state of the article, and the history of it (already marked as a hoax before). As I said above, without reliable sources it does not look like it belongs in Wikipedia yet. -- Alexf42 12:10, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
195.224.118.82 block.
Re the 31 hour block, this is a vandalism only account - all edits since 2008-08-05 has been BLP libel vandalism. 31 hours is not going to help. -- Jeandré, 2008-09-01t12:41z
- Unfortunately there is no "vandalism only" IP account as there is with named (password access) accounts, as IP's could be used by anyone. If they start again, they will be blocked for longer times. -- Alexf42 12:46, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
- Back to vandalising again (all edits made from IP have been vandalism). Editing non-notable BLPs so that it goes undetected. -- Jeandré, 2008-09-17t14:29z
Redirect of deleted page
Could you please also delete Karen cook disco? Thanks. Paulbrock (talk) 13:32, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
- Done. -- Alexf42 14:43, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi, just a note, this user had already asked for a new username when you blocked. Kevin (talk) 22:40, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
- Oh. Did not notice at the time. It was mainly an issue of WP:COI. -- Alexf42 23:35, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
deleted "Dendura"
Hey Alex, it seems you have deleted my 1st article with Wiki for the following reason.
A7 (group): Doesn't indicate importance or significance of a group/company/etc.: Doesn't indicate notability under WP:MUSIC) |
I don't understand this, as I have made this article on a band that has had its music featured in a movies, and on TV. As this is my 1st article, can you please help me know what is needed to restore my article if this isn't a mistake.
Thanks in advance, Cobra Blade (talk) 23:25, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
- As the reason for deletion said, it did not assert notability under WP:MUSIC. The only references it had (none inline) were two external references, pointing to myspace (not a reliable source) and the band's website, also not an acceptable reference. Read the indicated page and it will tell you what is needed. Remember Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a catalog or list. That means that it has to meet notability criteria to pass muster. -- Alexf42 23:27, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
So I need better references indicating what has been said? Would any of following sites be any good? http://www.rockbandlounge.com/local-news.asp?nid=335 , http://cdbaby.com/cd/dendura , http://www.westmichiganmusic.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=585 . They all mention their involvement in films and TV. Cobra Blade (talk) 00:12, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not an expert in music (not my field) but I think those might be OK. -- Alexf42 00:18, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for taking the time to explain that to me. Seeing as this is the 1st time I have been through this process, my only other question is how do I add these references to the currently deleted article to make it worthy of undeletion? Cobra Blade (talk) 00:32, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
- I have restored the article. You must act fast (this message is copied to your Talk page), before another editor questions and tags for deletion. Good luck. -- Alexf42 01:17, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Firstly I want to thank you for all of your time I have already taken. With that being said I hope taking a look the Dendura article once again won't be too much of a bother, as jimfbleak said I should get back to you regarding the removal of the notability tag if you see it fit to do so. Cobra Blade (talk) 11:55, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Deleted article - Samba Sene
On 17 Aug you deleted http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Samba_Sene&action=edit&redlink=1 - for Senegalese musician Samba Sene - citing lack of references and querying notability. Apologies for not making the case sufficiently - I was adding to a reference from another Wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diwan).
Please check out the following independent sources and consider reinstating -
BBC Radio Scotland broadcast featuring music by Samba Sene (& band Diwan) - http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/player/?item=44534373
Recent press articles http://news.scotsman.com/music/Music-review-Samba39s-Scottish-African.4365368.jp http://edinburgh.threeweeks.co.uk/review/5648 http://www.list.co.uk/event/166646-louis-jean-the-irie-rainbow-samba-sene-diwan-and-zuba/ http://www.list.co.uk/article/4387-samba-sane-diwan/ http://www.festmag.co.uk/article/461-laid-back-and-in-the-groove http://news.scotsman.com/scotland/Biggest-Mela-in-city-history.4434643.jp
Miscellaneous, independent links and references: http://www.edinburgh-mela.co.uk/music/#xaware http://www.ukarts.com/africaconsortium/news-new.asp (scroll down to Celtic Connections article...) http://paulinesmusicreviews.blogspot.com/2007/10/mugdock-music-festival-2007-festival.html http://www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/ACCI/web/site/xev_EventDetail.asp?id=1594 http://www.boredtonight.co.uk/ed08/Music/Samba-s-Scottish-African-Party http://www.arpconcerts.co.uk/sunday.htm http://theplaceformusic.co.uk/mugdock/latest/mugdock-international-music-festival-june-20th-21st-22nd.html http://www.nme.com/video/search/easdale
Thanks for your time. Best wishes Morag Neil aka Scary Biscuits 2/9/08 Scary Biscuits (talk) 05:27, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Fuck
Edit to page F*** not vandalism, just nomination - wanted to nominate this page fordeletion due to offensiveness - only reason i blanked it at the same time was to preemptively remove the offensive pages it linked to, also ,any idea why I am unable to edit the main page on that word? says view source instead of edit. Mrqwerty987 (talk) 00:03, 3 September 2008 (UTC) Also noticed you have the ability to protect pages, could you possible SALT this page title? Mrqwerty987 (talk) 00:04, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
- Please understand that Wikipedia is not censored. If you dislike seeing pages with names as Fuck (disambiguation) which you tried to remove, then don't read them. If the word bothers you, then Wikipedia may not be for you. Blanking of Wikipedia articles or portions of it without a valid reason explained in the article's Talk page is considered vandalism and will lead to a block. -- Alexf42 00:08, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Hipólito Vieytes
--Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:06, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Please take another look at this page that you deleted. Although it might have been a bit spammy, it wasn't eligible for a G11 which requires that the article in question be "fundamentally rewritten to become encyclopedic". The article had plenty of valid NPOV information regarding what is now somewhat of a cultural phenomenon. I'm really not interested in going through the tedious DRV process. Please undelete it, I promise to do some work on it, or at the very least userfy it. Thanks, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 14:59, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
- I also noticed that the user was never notified of the pending speedy. I have no idea if another tagged it for deletion of if you just deleted it, but in any case, the user should have been notified and given a chance to fix it. Best, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 15:08, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
- Restored as per your request. I was not the tagger, just the admin on duty at time of deletion. I still see it as an ad for WaMu and don't think notability has been properly asserted. No guarantees that another admin won't delete as it stands now. Good luck. -- Alexf42 15:13, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
- It was an advertisement for a non-notable advertisement. If and when it becomes notable, then and only then should it have an article. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:26, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
- I would see no objection to restoring it to the original author's userspace, of course. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:28, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Orange: What you did was inexcusable edit-warring, behavior that is totally unbecoming of an administrator. If there's no general consensus that that article was speedy-eligible the article must go through an afd. Please restore. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 15:30, 3 September 2008 (UTC)- Slow down Brew. I do not agree with your statement. OrangeMike has every right to delete in his opinion, as I did, as we both found the article speediable as it stood at the time of deletions. Both of us also showed willingness to restore it as per your request so please be civil. Honey catches more flies than vinegar. Always. -- Alexf42 15:35, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
- I would see no objection to restoring it to the original author's userspace, of course. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:28, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, maybe I was a bit too itchy. But please restore it to my userspace. The article's creator is a newbie, who is quite unfamiliar with the process here. I'll let him/her know that it can be worked on my userspace. Thanks, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 15:42, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
- Understood. I just left a note at OrangeMike's who's the one to restore at his discretion. -- Alexf42 15:47, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
- I restored it to her userspace, since she was the original author; hope that's copacetic with you, Brew! --Orange Mike | Talk 15:55, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
- It was an advertisement for a non-notable advertisement. If and when it becomes notable, then and only then should it have an article. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:26, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
- Restored as per your request. I was not the tagger, just the admin on duty at time of deletion. I still see it as an ad for WaMu and don't think notability has been properly asserted. No guarantees that another admin won't delete as it stands now. Good luck. -- Alexf42 15:13, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
delete end of the world movie
can you do it? i can't do it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FindDDRhands (talk • contribs) 21:26, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
- What? First, please remember to sign all your entries in Talk pages by adding four tildes (~~~~). Second, if you don't link to an article or give a clue, I've no idea what you are talking about. If it is about an article you wrote and want deleted, just place a {{delete|reason}} tag in it. -- Alexf42 21:32, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
- I searched and found End of the World movie. If that is the one you meant, the article already has a PROD tag in it. -- Alexf42 21:35, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
He's already at WP:CHU - I'll guide him to a proper username. Please unblock. --Dweller (talk) 10:17, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
- You seem to have gone offwiki, so, with apologies, I'll unblock him myself. I loathe undoing other admins' actions, so profuse apologies, but I think this is right. --Dweller (talk) 10:44, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
- That's OK. I was out on my way to work (early morning here). No prob if you thought it right. My block was because they worked on an article for their own company. If the new account does it it will also be WP:COI as you know. -- Alexf42 11:09, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
Lil Pauly
Since you speedied Lil Pauly can you please kill the rest of the articles and a template associated with the article? Here they are:
- Template:Lil Pauly
- Your Mum,Sister&Dad
- I Kissed Your Mum
- I Kissed Your Sister
- Hope Your Dad Dont Mind It
They appear to be hoaxes too. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 02:48, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
- Done. -- Alexf42 02:52, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
- One more: U Luv It. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 02:52, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
- Gracias. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 03:07, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
- One more: U Luv It. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 02:52, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Quick notice, (Important!)
You deleted my article on Jim Wood while I was in the middle of actually writing his bio which detailed how he was important. It is still not finished as I am reseraching it and information is hard to come by, or at least, hard to sort through. He is the current State Auditor of Arkansas, has many news reports, a VoteSmart Page, and was reelected with half a million votes. He is also a former State Senator and State Representative. I think that he meets the Notability requirements. I thought I would inform you of this because I have recreated the article, as it is part of my project of articles on major Arkansas Politicians.--Robert Waalk (talk) 03:32, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
- OK, fine. Good luck then. Cheers! -- Alexf42 10:56, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
re item 51 Deleted item - Samba Sene
Posted query a few days ago - would appreciate reply to know your thoughts on it. New to Wikipedia so still feeling my way round the etiquette. Best wishes Morag —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scary Biscuits (talk • contribs) 13:46, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry for not having answered earlier. Somehow I forgot at the time and did not come around to it. The article was deleted because it failed to assert notability. It had no references other than a link to myspace, a non-acceptable source. In order to understand what's required please see WP:MUSIC. Also there seems to be a conflict of interest with your account and the text on your page. -- Alexf42 16:15, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Re: Jerod gunsberg
I am NOT notable, for real. I barely recognize myself! Please delete page. (Jerodg (talk) 16:29, 6 September 2008 (UTC)).
As the who deleted this article, could you please let us know which of the two notable people by that name was intended? Was it the 14th century one who is linked from Dafydd Gam, or was it the 9th century one who may be the same as Hywel ap Rhodri Molwynog. The 9th century person appears in the Dictionary of National Biography as "Howel Vychan". The boilerplate in the notice to the contributor is not helpful. Eclecticology (talk) 03:25, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- The article was deleted way back on March 25, 2008. It did not assert notability as it had no references or even external links at all the whole text was:
- "Hywel Fychan Ap Hywel (born 1304 in Of Parc Letis, Lngtwgdyfrynwysg, Monmouthshire, England) was ?. He married Alice Verch Llewelyn and he had 6 children:
- Llywelyn Ap Hywel, Dafydd Ap Hywel, Ieuan Ap Hywel, Elsbeth Verch Hywel, Gwilym Ap Hywel andLleucu Verch Hywel.
- Hywel Fychan ap Einion Sais ap Rhys ap Hywel ap Nest ferch Grufydd."
- (the text was underlined in the original article as shown). Hope this helps you. Cheers. -- Alexf42 11:31, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. This is clearly the 14th century chap, but it's the 9th century one that interests me at the moment. The above, which should be easily verifiable, seems entirely genealogical. Hywel Fychan (disambiguation) should take care of this. Eclecticology (talk) 18:03, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Janet Beed speedy deletion
Hi. Yesterday, you deleted Janet Beed under A7. I think it asserts notability because she was a leader in many hospitals in the Greater Toronto Area. Not just one, but many. Do you mind viewing what you deleted? Thanks. Pie is good (Apple is the best) 17:37, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I looked again. It says: "she was Vice President & Chief Operating Officer at Toronto General Hospital ... she likes to hike, swim and golf". There are countless business people, CEOs, Vice-Presidents and high executives of multitudes of companies, big and small all over. That post alone does not qualify her to be notable. I did not see anything that qualifies under WP:PERSON, though I could be wrong of course. -- Alexf42 18:54, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
sinolinkconsulting
hallo, We, in name of sinolinkconsulting, recently created an article about "invest in China" on wikipedia, but due to unclear copyright problem this article has been deleted. With this email we want to explain that we own the copyright of century dragon as well. we have also used one email adress of century dragon to send a email at permissions-en@wikimedia.org. we donot know what we should do further to get that page back. thanks
- There are several problems here. Besides the copyright issue, for which the article was deleted, you have to remember this is an encyclopedia. "Invest in China" does not look like an encyclopedic article. Your account also has username issues and possible conflicts of interest. Please read BFAQ and the pages indicated. Lastly, please remember to add new entries in Talk pages always at the bottom and sign your entries by adding four tildes (~~~~). Thanks. -- Alexf42 11:38, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- S/he has continued to recreate the same articles with the same issues. Have now username/Spam blocked. TravellingCari 02:28, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Deleted Article, InsWeb
Hello Alexf. On Saturday, Sept. 6th, you deleted my entry about the publicly traded company InsWeb (NASDAQ: INSW) because you thought it was blatant advertising. Could you please provide an explanation as to why a brief history of a company, a picture of a corporate building, and a brief explanation of what the company does, is considered advertising? The entry for esurance is very similar; it has a simple description of what the company does, where it is located, its history, etc. and the only references are about its mascot. Thank you in advance for your explanation. Inszo95 (talk) 15:45, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- OK. I checked the other page you mentioned and see the similarities. Even though other companies pages should not count or have bearing, I see your point and reconsidered. The article has been restored and I placed a {{hangon}} tag for you, This will delay the deletion. It is up to you to fix the article. It does read like advertisement. For starters, you should get rid of all the unsourced company praise that is there (at the time of this writing). Good luck. -- Alexf42 16:02, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Elton Yiying Chen
I attempted to create a page about a fellow student of mine called Elton Yiying Chen recently. However, you deleted it before I could finish. You see, our school (Albany High School, California) is doing a project for 11th graders in which we write short biographies about our classmates. However, my friend Elton is very busy man. Despite being who many would call a nerd, he is actually quite popular at our school, so many people are interested in finding out more about him. He doesn't have time to answer everyone's questions, so I decided to help out my classmates by creating a wikipedia page about him. A few days ago, I received permisson from our teacher to let me create this page, which he would later inspect to check if there were any jokes about him. This would greatly benefit many of the students here so please reconsider the article. This project is due at the end of our school quarter (October 31, 2008), so it only needs to be up until then.
PS - He was actually born in a Rancid concert, so please don't take that as a joke. Also, the part about "playing oral" actually was a joke. I apologize for that, I was going to delete in a few minutes. By the way, he is isn't the son of Chen Kenichi. I just tried to add that in to make it seem as though he had more signifigance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drk woo (talk • contribs) 01:36, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you for your comments and explanation. I'll remind you, and please tell your teacher, that Wikipedia is a serious encyclopedia, and every article has to be about a notable subject. Your fiend Elton may be a very busy man but possibly not encyclopedic material (few of us are). -- Alexf42 01:46, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
ICAdmin
Hmm ... although it's pretty clear that he's not getting the point (I'll try to explain it to him to), perhaps we can initiate a username RFC just so he gets it (I can't imagine the result being anything other than what it would otherwise be). Daniel Case (talk) 02:44, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Deleted Page
From Osims (talk) 20:51, 9 September 2008 (UTC) : You deleted my page ("Oliver Sims"), and I wondered why. The reason code you gave was "db|nn-autobio)". I checked in "speedy delete" but could not find a match for these codes.
I wonder if you could tell me why you deleted the page, since various other authors etc. have a very similar page. In addition, I am already referred to from at least two existing pages.
I'd like to understand how I can change things so that my page will be acceptable, given that other people with similar background to mine have their pages.
Thank you.
- It means autobiography. Other authors may have similar pages, I don't know, and they may or may not be wrong, but it is not an acceptable reason for inclusion. If you are notable it is much better and more acceptable if somebody writes something and documents it properly asserting notability. -- Alexf42 21:52, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Blocking
You just beat me by a few seconds blocking IP 66.172.169.2, he was lucky, I was going to block for 48 hours. Useight (talk) 15:48, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
- Happens all the time. I often get pre-empted by another admin. Cheers! -- Alexf42 15:49, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Mass-delinking dates
Please see Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Alexf_mass-deleting_dates. Corvus cornixtalk 01:37, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'll stop and comment there. -- Alexf42 01:41, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Bojan Krkic
Hi alex i'm sorry for my headines in editing Bojan Krkic's page but i think that is should be written that he is Spanish-Serbian footballer, because his father is from Serbia so it is not correct to say that he is just Spanish.
- I do not agree. Unless he is a Serbian citizen (holds a Serbian passport) and you can show it, (I don't know, he may be), the father is Serbian, not him. He was born in Spain, lives in Spain, and plays for Spain. Would you call Messi Italian/Argentine? Why would that be important? It is not like the case of Marcos Senna where he does have two nationalities. Here it does not seem to be the same case. -- Alexf42 21:58, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
OK! It is not important, but if your father is (for example) born in France and your all family from father's side is from France then you have France descent. You don't need to be French but you definitely have French descent. I repeat it is not important but I think that for Krkic you can say that he is Spanish whith Serbian descent, only like this is correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Matijaa007 (talk • contribs) 23:22, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
CWMania
I'm not too keen on renaming him, especially since it sounds like he might return to SPA ways. I'd say if he wants the new name, he should create it instead, as long as you didn't disable his account creation. If he does create the account, you need to tell him to be contributive. I'm a little unsure about this, so I think a second opinion from another crat might be good. bibliomaniac15 17:15, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- I made sure Autoblock was disabled (undid the block and reblocked then I found it wasn't necessary :( as autoblock was already clear on the first). I emailed him back and explained the issues of COI and NPOV, then suggested he creates a new account. Thanks. I just realized you are a fairly new 'crat (didn't know) so Congrats on that! -- Alexf42 22:15, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
The classical 'why do you delete my article?'
Yeah, why? My article is In Harmonia Progressio and you deleted it with no explanation. I'd be glad to hear any.In Harmonia Progressio! (talk) 11:27, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- As it says in the deletion comment (yes, it did have an explanation), because the article was a redirect to a non-valid target (CSD#R1). Looking back, the original article was changed to a redirect in August, as it does not make much sense to have an article on a school's motto (besides issues of notability). The redirect should have pointed to the school I guess, instead it was an R1 case. -- Alexf42 11:46, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry to bother you, but I want your opinion in this case because I don't know where will I find answer. We have the article Dominus illuminatio mea, Fluctuat nec mergitur, etc. Oxford is an university, so does Institut Teknologi Bandung. It is not a high school, but an institute; a university. Please give your explanation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adri K. (talk • contribs) 11:57, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- Like I said above, the article in the current form was an invalid redirect. I restored the original article, which is extremely short and unreferenced, but may be salvageable. Please work on it before another editor tags it for deletion. Good luck. -- Alexf42 12:05, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'll try to improve it, but I can't do it quickly because I have another work to do in real life. Thanks anyway! In Harmonia Progressio! (talk) 11:32, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
- Like I said above, the article in the current form was an invalid redirect. I restored the original article, which is extremely short and unreferenced, but may be salvageable. Please work on it before another editor tags it for deletion. Good luck. -- Alexf42 12:05, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry to bother you, but I want your opinion in this case because I don't know where will I find answer. We have the article Dominus illuminatio mea, Fluctuat nec mergitur, etc. Oxford is an university, so does Institut Teknologi Bandung. It is not a high school, but an institute; a university. Please give your explanation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adri K. (talk • contribs) 11:57, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Speedy deletion
I declined the speedy deletion of Karan Singh Grover as notability was clearly asserted (major role in a popular Indian soap opera and host of a reality TV series), but I have cleaned up the article and added some references. Please also note it is considered courteous to inform the creator of an article (User:Lizcook) that you have nominated the article for deletion (speedy or otherwise), you do not appear to have done so in this case. --Canley (talk) 12:56, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- That is correct. Forgot while doing two things at the same time. Thanks for the info. -- Alexf42 17:43, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi Alexf. You recently blocked User:Iamtiredofliberals, a user I tagged as having an unsuitable username. I thank you for stepping in and blocking the user however I believe he or she may have returned. User:IraqInvasionftw2003 posted at User talk:Iamtiredofliberals stating that it was an alternate account of Iamtiredofliberals, "Iraq Invasion"'s userpage is the same as that of Iamtiredofliberals and I have little doubt that this is a ploy to evade the block. Hope you don't mind me bringing this to you. AreaControl (talk) 18:21, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- Not at all. I knew about the new account and it is indeed the same person. His explanation for the "liberals" name was plausible but I still ruled it as a username violation. The new name, even though strange, is not IMO a blatant violation so I could not complain. Thanks. -- Alexf42 18:28, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- Ok thanks! I just remembered reading a policy somewhere that users weren't allowed two accounts for the same person and wondered if that applied here. Thanks for the help here though and I'll be sure to brush up on my policies! :) AreaControl (talk) 18:32, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- You are correct on the policy. Here it is not two accounts, as one is indef. It is the same case as when we allow a username violator to change to a new name, or just create a new account instead. This is not done for blatant vandals who are blocked for account creation too. HTH. -- Alexf42 18:35, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- Ah I see. Thank you AreaControl (talk) 18:37, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi Alexf,
I am one of the poor saps that have been deleted repeatedly, and I was not sure how to change my page in accordance with wikipedia's needs, so I kept adding it agian so that those that could help me would have a refernce point.
I assure I had the best intentions in doing this, I was not trying to be beligerant:)
I have just been informed that the site that I have been trying to have published EliteAnswers.com does not have apporopriate references. However the references that I have are media outlets for the organization I am trying to create a page for. It is unlikely that an academic journal will have written about the company. Of the references that are there, some are thrid party, and are quite reputable sources. Therefore I am not sure what the concern is and I need some help with that.
What other ways do I have to modify the article in order to get it approved for submission?
I really appreaciate you taking the time, and once again I apologize for the appearance that came across through my edits.Yitzhaac Pesach (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 19:26, 15 September 2008 (UTC).
- It is rather simple. Just follow the guidelines and policies. For websites, the appropriate guidelines are at: Wikipedia:Notability (web). See also our pages detailing notability, verifiability and reliable sources. These will tell you what you need to know in order for an article to be acceptable to the encyclopedia. Good luck. -- Alexf42 19:34, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your helpYitzhaac Pesach (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 15:06, 17 September 2008 (UTC). I read up on web notability, and the page seems to conform with those requirements. Which parts are not valid? All the sources are thrid party entities that have nopthing to do with organization, or are awards given to the company. Do you see it in another way?Yitzhaac Pesach (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 15:15, 17 September 2008 (UTC).
Thanks for just tagging Ron Gorchov (db-bio) instead of deleting it immediately, as I'm sure many admins would have done. This gave me the opportunity to discover the article, clean it up a bit, and establish notability. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 22:43, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, some would. I wasn't sure on notability and thought it best to allow other editors (and admins) to take a look and decide, and to post a note on the creator's page to inform of the CSD. -- Alexf42 22:47, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
questions re. duplicate topic headings and saving unfinished content
Hello Alexf
I see that you flagged my page on Ron Gorchov for two reasons. I am new to Wikipedia and I appreciate your feedback. I have two questions that perhaps you can help me answer when you have a moment.
First: the reason I made duplicate topic headings ("Ron gorchov" and "Ron Gorchov") is because I couldn't figure out how to capitalize the 'G' in Gorchov on the first page (it automatically showed up as "gorchov"), so I created a second with the capital 'G.' Now that the second page exists, do you know how I go about deleting the first page, since obviously there is no need for two pages on the same topic and I would prefer to have both the first and last name capitalized?
Second: is there a way to save content while I'm working on it but before I post it? I explored the "Sandbox" option but perhaps I didn't understand it correctly. Do you recommend that I take down the page altogether and save the content in another place while I work on it? How do I do that?
Again, I'm new and still slogging through the protocol here. Any help you can give is appreciated.
Best JBirdBK (talk) 22:47, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
- When an article is wrongly named, you can use the move command to rename it, instead of creating a new one. I had already deleted the page as duplicate. Admins can delete pages, editors cannot. What you can do if you want your page deleted is to blank the page and put a {{db-author}} tag on it. This will signal admins to delete it. On your second question, you can create a subpage on your user space by adding a slash and the new page name to your userpage's URL (follow the link for instructions). There you can work on it, make it look nice, establish notability and then copy to a new article when ready. When you want that page deleted, just place a {{db-u1}} on it to signal admins for deletion. Simple. -- Alexf42 22:57, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Ward Jarret
This is Nick Price, executive producer for Troubadour Records. We are a small record company based in Nashville. I have a new artist who we are excited to be launching in a month on our label, and we are launching his website in three weeks, and thought that Wikipedia is another great place we could put some history about him on.
The artist's name is "Ward Jarret", also Ward Jarret Hilger.
If you could return my message as soon as possible. Thank you for your time.
Mihproductions (talk) 18:11, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
- And the reason for telling me all of this is? I've no idea. But I'll try to give you some information in how Wikipedia works as your message conveys the idea that you are unclear on the concept. Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia, not a vehicle for propaganda and advertising. If the artist is notable and you are not in a conflict of interest situation (which you certainly are as per your message), then it might be possible to have an article. -- Alexf42 00:02, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks
Thank you for blocking Johnny-bollock-rotten.--Ŵïllî§ï$2 (Talk!/Cont.) 20:58, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, I declined the speedy and re-created the page. I think this could be a fine stub. Bearian (talk) 22:49, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
- It looks good now. It definitely did not when it was tagged for CSD. Good job! -- Alexf42 22:53, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Barton Paul Levenson Page
Alexf, could you kindly take one more look at the BPL page? I did everything I could to make it Neutral POV, remove peacock words, remove uncited assertions and anything that looked like advertisement or puffery. He is actually one of the leaders of a local style or genre of writing that is unique to Pittsburgh and he has inspired and supported many other local writers. As of now he has 39 independent publications that I am aware of. If you support notoreity could you see if it merits removing the tag? Respectfully, the Botendaddy. Botendaddy (talk) 09:44, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
- Done. He's notable alright. -- Alexf42 09:47, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Re this article deleted for copyvio, the editor has become fairly....insistent... that a) American copyright law allowed the copy as it was out of copyright, and that b) he'd got permission from the website owner - both of these are discussed on his userpage (User_talk:RichardBond), along with his ....thoughts... about what's happened. I'm only interested as I removed a few disparaging remarks about editors from the article before it was deleted, and I'm curious as to the copyright position in this case - was the copyright permission (apparently) obtained not valid because he didn't follow policy in regards to obtaining permission (emails from the copyright owner to the WP email address etc.), or was there some other aspect of this issue that meant it got deleted ? Sorry if it seems I'm being nosey (tell me if you think I am !) - I'm just curious for future reference. :-) CultureDrone (talk) 12:03, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
- The web page that was copied specifically says: Copyright © 1998-2008 Linda H. Peck, Haggin Histories - All Rights Reserved Worldwide. The copyright of stories, images and articles to which this page links remain with the original owners. This is obviously incompatible with Wikipedia's GNU licencing policies. If the author (Mrs. Peck) wants to release it to the public domain, she should says so on her page, or she should contact Wikipedia as per WP:COPYVIO and WP:IOWN guidelines. -- Alexf42 12:21, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Hello Alexf
I didn't get e response on my last post,
I was hoping you could help me out.
I wrote "Thank you for your helpYitzhaac Pesach (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 15:06, 17 September 2008 (UTC). I read up on web notability, and the page seems to conform with those requirements. Which parts are not valid? All the sources are thrid party entities that have nopthing to do with organization, or are awards given to the company. Do you see it in another way?Yitzhaac Pesach (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 15:15, 17 September 2008 (UTC). Yitzhaac Pesach (talk) 18:47, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
- All the answers on why it was deleted are in the deletion discussion here. The guidelines and policies are already pointed out to you and you have read. It is not a question of sources and notability as much as it is of advertising. Also, please do not duplicate entries in talk pages. As long as the original thread (section) is there (i.e. not yet archived), please continue with it instead of repeating the whole section again. Thanks -- Alexf42 22:46, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks again, AlexF, that was the most helpful. I can see exactly what people thought of the articel and can amke the necessary changes.
I really appreaciate it.Yitzhaac Pesach (talk) 13:45, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
The Cesarians
Hi Alexf V. new to all this. Noticed you've deleted my article on The Cesarians. They are mentioned in a wikipedia article about another band The Last Drive and I was trying to offer some more information about them. The article itself has 4 links or references to other wikipedia entries namely, Luke Haines, Christian Death, Michael Nyman and Nigel Kennedy, all of which are related to them. Not sure if this was clear (or if indeed this is!) Do I get the right to appeal?!
ErichissErichiss (talk) 19:45, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
- The article did not have any references or citations to assert notability. Everything in Wikipedia has to be verifiable, not just on your say so. Unless you can show it meets at least one of the criteria detailed in WP:BAND, it cannot stay. -- Alexf42 22:52, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Douglas Romayne - COI
This article appears to be a COI under the Wikipedia standard, as it appears to be an autobiography that has been posted by user Bleu Jean Management and a user with the IP addrss 216.86.198.37. Bleu Jean Management is this persons management company, and writing an article about someone you are in bussiness with is a direct violation of the Wikipedia COI rules. Also the section on "Albums" is a blatent attempt for self promotion, because it send people to iTunes, MovieScore Media and CD Baby where the CD can be purchased. The quotes provided are also the type of quotes that would be used in a promotional package, not a enyclopedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pub14 (talk • contribs) 21:28, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
- It may be so, I don't know. I do not follow music-related articles, as it is way out of my knowledge. If you feel it is a COI issue please tag the article with {{COI}} and discuss it with the editor in his/her talk page. If you cannot get a proper resolution then you can bring it to the Conflict of Interest Noticeboard to get experienced people to help you deal with this. -- Alexf42 22:58, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Joel Iskowitz
Hello Alexf, I am not certain that I am making these additions in the proper format or protocal. I added bio information which is absolutely true and I don't think any copy w rights were violated as I took this from my own factual CV. Anyway that you may be able to tell me how I can make t or edit these entries without problems which case deletions ,would be very much appreciated.
Respectfully submitted,
Joel Iskowitz Iskart (talk) 19:44, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
- Joel, simply put, you should not copy material from existing websites and you should not do an autobiography, no matter how factual -- Alexf42 20:06, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Murray Carter
Dear Alexf,
Could you recover en send me the deleted page of "Murray Carter" to me? That article is deleted for reasons that were unclear to me at first. It was my first article about a well known bladesmith and first Caucasian that received the status of a Japanese bladesmith. I suspect that since English is not my native language, I lacked in describing sufficient relevant information about the person to illustrate his importance for the knife making industry and bladesmithing in general.
I received help from another knife enthusiast, that is an English speaking native and as a result, I've rewrote some of the text to make it more "notable" .
Sincerely, --RobVandeB (talk) 21:03, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
- restored to your user space. -- Alexf42 23:43, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Question about Image
Hello Alexf!
I thought you are experienced and would help me. Please tell me how am I to know that the image I have searched is not copyright protected or protected? Because I can't figure it out, and Wikipedia help page says something of finding this on google image search. But how? Also tell whether Picasa web album is free or not.
Thanks. --Qutabshahi (talk) 21:23, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
- You can learn about images at Wikipedia:Images. If the site you take the image from does not have a clear Creative Commons GFDL license, then you probably can't use it. I am not an expert in the images section but you can read about it at Wikipedia:Copyrights. Picasa is a free download from Google. -- Alexf42 23:53, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Sheikh Dr. Zille-Umar Qadri
Hi,
This is Junaid from Birmingham. You have nominated one of my teachers article for deletion. His name is Sheikh Zille-Umar Qadri. Please search on google on his name and you will find dozens of links of websites in which he is mentioned. These links mention his religious work as propogator.His speeches are on video.google.com and a few on youtube.com . Some lectures which he delivered to School of Ecumenis in Ireland to Master Students are also online. The Sheikh is a genuiane person and very respected in the Muslim Community in UK and Ireland. Offcourse there are people who dont like him, but there are even people who dont like you and me for example.
There are many articles in Irish newspapers on him or with his opinions also.
Kind Regards,
Junaid Alam—Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.5.182.33 (talk) 06:12, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
- I did not "nominate" the article for deletion. I merely added a !vote at his articles for deletion discussion page. Instead of explaining the person to other editors, what you should do is enter your comments in the AfD page, providing reliable information and add validation and notability information to the article before it is deleted. -- Alexf42 12:20, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Michele Ciampa
Why did you delete teh Michele Ciampa page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ciampa (talk • contribs) 13:52, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
- Because it was a copyvio issue as it says in your Talk page. Besides that, there are issues with notability and autobiography. -- Alexf42 15:03, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Alfred J. Hooke
Hi Alex Just wondering why my piece on Alfred J. Hooke was deleted. He was a very important part of making Alberta what it is today. He was a very nice man and over the years very good to me as a relative. I want his name to be out there and people to know his achievemnts. Is it because i copied his bio? I can change a few works no problem but it is in a very short form to begin with. Look forward in your reply Ableline —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ableline (talk • contribs) 02:30, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- As the deletion notice said (A7), it had no indication of notability whatsoever. It has to meet at least one of the criteria in the people notability page. -- Alexf42 20:48, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Re: Edenbee
Hi Alexf
Dave here from Edenbee just wanted to know why you deleted my article on Edenbee.com? Perhaps you can guide me as to what the article needs to have to be listed and added to? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Busybee69 (talk • contribs) 19:47, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- As the deletion notice said (A7), it had no indication of notability whatsoever. It has to meet at least one of the criteria in the WEB notability page. On top of that you seem to have a conflict of interest issue on this subject. Please read the linked pages and also about WP:BFAQ to understand our policies and guidelines. -- Alexf42 20:53, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Re: Desire line
I don't understand why a photo portraying the article topic is considered vandalism. Caleb (talk) 22:25, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, sorry. The edit that was reverted was for the inclusion of example.jpg pictures that have no place in an article. The photo was inadvertently removed and has been restored. -- Alexf42 22:51, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
No Known Survivors Deletion
Hey There, I put up the No Known Survivors post, and I wanted to get an understanding of how this is irrelevant? How can other online alternate reality games that were utilized in marketing of products be ok, but this one not? What do I need to put in it so that it lives up to your standards?
Currently ilovebees and NIN Year Zero both have thier own wiki plages. What is NKS any different, and how?
Thanks for your time, I look forward to hearing from you. OhDaesu80 —Preceding undated comment was added at 05:34, 23 September 2008 (UTC).
- As the summary said, it did not assert notability properly. That was the assessment of several editors, the ones that tagged it for speedy deletion and the two admins that deleted it from the project. Please read about web notability and — although other similar articles do not count — as you mentioned I Love Bees, please take a look at their reference section. As a last procedural note, please always add new sections to Talk pages at the bottom and always sign your comments with four tildes. Thank you. -- ----
wehrmachtvnn
i think that vandal's on a different language version of wikipedia —Preceding unsigned comment added by Btzkillerv (talk • contribs) 12:26, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
- I do not know why you told me this, but for the little I have seen (I'm not involved in the Spratly issue at all), both of you are opinionated, which is not a bad thing in itself, until it trickles down into articles and becomes a POV issue, which seems to have happened more than once from both of you. Also, please remember to sign your osts in talk pages by adding four tildes at the end. Thank you. -- Alexf42 16:11, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
You may be interested in this project ?
- Not really. Thanks for the invite. I have way too much stuff on my plate. My ToDo list is huge, and hard to make a dent on. Besides I know very little about Latam film anyway. -- Alexf42 22:23, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Eliteanswers.com Edited
I tried to delete a lot of things that might be considered adevertising.
I wanted to know if you thought these edits would allow the page to be posted.
I realize you are quite busy, so if you are not the person I need to speak to about this, maybe you could direct me to the person who I do need to talk to about this.
My edits are visible on my user page.
Thanks for taking the timeYitzhaac Pesach (talk) 20:09, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- reply on your page. -- Alexf42 21:41, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
whom you correctly blocked, has moved to 24.61.243.203 (talk · contribs), where he continues with the same disruptive editing which got him blocked in the first place. Apparently, his modus operandi is "flash vandalism", in which he goes to the same articles every day, vandalizes and leaves.--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 23:39, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- Warn using the standard templates and report to AIV if warranted. -Thanks. - Alexf42 01:11, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- ........or we apply common sense and spend our time building an encyclopedia instead of chasing around silly vandals. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 01:28, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- yes, but we can't block until they repeatedly vandalize. Blocking is not punishment for future actions but it is done to protect the project. In the meantime I continue editing and creating articles. Anti-vandal work detracts from the time to build a better encyclopedia but unfortunately it is a fact of life. - Alexf42 01:40, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- He did this shtick three times on his new IP. Added to the 4 times on his previous IP equals 7 times. Geez! I don't know why I waste my time here, I should just go to someone else who might look into links that I attach. Since you were the last blocker, I figured it would be easiest for you to look into the situation. I was mistaken. Forget it. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 03:12, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- I did check and I do not see his edits as vandalism. Furthermore you have not explained to him why you consider he should not make them. I do agree (my personal opinion) that religious categories are not needed/required and have no place unless it plays an important in the subject's life. Still, it is not vandalism but a difference of opinion or an edit dispute if you will. Your continuously warning him without explaining your reasoning in plain text, and inviting him to discuss the issue in the Talk page obviously did not do much to engage the editor. As it is not vandalism, I cannot block, mush as you or I would wish. I would suggest you ask other admins at ANI or at DR instead. It is not worth getting upset about. -- Alexf42 10:44, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- You did block 24.147.246.76 (talk · contribs) for three months. Do you know why you blocked him for such a long period of time? Was it just because he was previously blocked twice that you figured that you're doing nothing wrong by blocking him again? I suggest this is what occured because it is blatantly obvious that 24.61.243.203 (talk · contribs) is the new IP address of 24.147.246.76 (talk · contribs), yet unlike the latter, the former wasn't blocked by an admin. Both IP addresses do the same exact edits to the same exact pages while refusing under any circumstances to discuss their unsourced BLP-violative edits. You can see the history of this issue at the talk page of 24.147.246.76 (talk · contribs) - whom you blocked for three months. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 14:33, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Ok. I just looked at the other block. Yes, it was because of the history of vandalism/previous blocks. This one being a new account (could be the same user but I'm not sure), I hesitate until I see more confirmation. Of course a checkuser could be run on this guy. Please feel free to place him in AIV and see what other admins think. Don't get me wrong, I dislike vandals as much as anybody, but I try to be fair. -- Alexf42 14:39, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- You did block 24.147.246.76 (talk · contribs) for three months. Do you know why you blocked him for such a long period of time? Was it just because he was previously blocked twice that you figured that you're doing nothing wrong by blocking him again? I suggest this is what occured because it is blatantly obvious that 24.61.243.203 (talk · contribs) is the new IP address of 24.147.246.76 (talk · contribs), yet unlike the latter, the former wasn't blocked by an admin. Both IP addresses do the same exact edits to the same exact pages while refusing under any circumstances to discuss their unsourced BLP-violative edits. You can see the history of this issue at the talk page of 24.147.246.76 (talk · contribs) - whom you blocked for three months. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 14:33, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- I did check and I do not see his edits as vandalism. Furthermore you have not explained to him why you consider he should not make them. I do agree (my personal opinion) that religious categories are not needed/required and have no place unless it plays an important in the subject's life. Still, it is not vandalism but a difference of opinion or an edit dispute if you will. Your continuously warning him without explaining your reasoning in plain text, and inviting him to discuss the issue in the Talk page obviously did not do much to engage the editor. As it is not vandalism, I cannot block, mush as you or I would wish. I would suggest you ask other admins at ANI or at DR instead. It is not worth getting upset about. -- Alexf42 10:44, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- He did this shtick three times on his new IP. Added to the 4 times on his previous IP equals 7 times. Geez! I don't know why I waste my time here, I should just go to someone else who might look into links that I attach. Since you were the last blocker, I figured it would be easiest for you to look into the situation. I was mistaken. Forget it. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 03:12, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- yes, but we can't block until they repeatedly vandalize. Blocking is not punishment for future actions but it is done to protect the project. In the meantime I continue editing and creating articles. Anti-vandal work detracts from the time to build a better encyclopedia but unfortunately it is a fact of life. - Alexf42 01:40, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- ........or we apply common sense and spend our time building an encyclopedia instead of chasing around silly vandals. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 01:28, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Deletion review for Baba Sehgal
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Baba Sehgal. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Jay (talk) 11:51, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Commented on the DR page. -- Alexf42 12:37, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Chris Dick deletion
Just curious why the new producer of commandn is not listed in wikipedia. He is now the backbone of one of the most watched vidcasts on the internet. Thanks for your time -A
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Gadflypro (talk • contribs) 01:03, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
- The article was deleted under A7, notability not asserted. If the person is notable, then it should be fairly easy to provide enough information to satisfy WP:BIO. -- Alexf42 01:56, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Deletion of RSSTab.com
Please look at Rojo.com and tell what was so wrong with RSSTab.com article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.99.40.62 (talk) 16:54, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
- Just because other stuff exists should not be a reason for consideration of your edits, one way or the other. Each article lives on its own merits (i.e. has to assert notability). That said, thank you for pointing the other one out as it also has notability issues. So tagged. -- Alexf42 17:01, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
- Hell! So please take a look at Google Reader or Netvibes or take look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_feed_aggregators#Web-based_software and remove also all of them! There was once a times in almost every culture when books were burned. I think you are doing evil even you can defend your action by rules. What is wrong with you people? Wikipedia was project to create good in small steps, you must not to kill something just after first non-perfect step. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.99.40.62 (talk) 17:13, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
- I think you are missing metaphors here. Book burning is censorship. Wikipedia is not censored. What we are talking about here is something entirely different, which are the rules for notability. Please read about the Five Pillars of Wikipedia to understand how the encyclopedia works. AS per your examples (e.g. Google Reader) they are sufficiently notable and verified by reliable sources. Maybe your page can be too, I don't know. Just look to see how you can assert the article's notability under the current rules and guidelines. -- Alexf42 17:31, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
- I had prepared long answer with arguing and more questions, but I deleted it. Nobody can fight windmills, don Quijote :-) I just wish I did not tell you about Rojo.com, I can survive broken ego, but I had become whistle blower. Would you please forget about it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.99.40.62 (talk) 18:04, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
- I have to follow the rules. The article is not yet deleted (as of this writing). It has been PRODded so there are five days for people to try to save it by asserting notability under WP:WEB. If you can supply reliable sources that are verifiable and comply with at least one of the points details in WP:WEB. -- Alexf42 21:11, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
- I had prepared long answer with arguing and more questions, but I deleted it. Nobody can fight windmills, don Quijote :-) I just wish I did not tell you about Rojo.com, I can survive broken ego, but I had become whistle blower. Would you please forget about it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.99.40.62 (talk) 18:04, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
- I think you are missing metaphors here. Book burning is censorship. Wikipedia is not censored. What we are talking about here is something entirely different, which are the rules for notability. Please read about the Five Pillars of Wikipedia to understand how the encyclopedia works. AS per your examples (e.g. Google Reader) they are sufficiently notable and verified by reliable sources. Maybe your page can be too, I don't know. Just look to see how you can assert the article's notability under the current rules and guidelines. -- Alexf42 17:31, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
- Hell! So please take a look at Google Reader or Netvibes or take look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_feed_aggregators#Web-based_software and remove also all of them! There was once a times in almost every culture when books were burned. I think you are doing evil even you can defend your action by rules. What is wrong with you people? Wikipedia was project to create good in small steps, you must not to kill something just after first non-perfect step. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.99.40.62 (talk) 17:13, 30 September 2008 (UTC)