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No Rest for the Wicked FAC

Hello. You participated in a recent FAC for No Rest for the Wicked (Supernatural). The article has since been renominated here. Thanks. Ω phois 19:08, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

I will keep an eye on it; thanks for the note. Airplaneman ✈ 21:16, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Despenser wars

Can you please undelete Despenser wars and its talk page. I suspect i nominated it for speedy delete in bad faith cheers. --Guerillero | My Talk 23:55, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Done Airplaneman ✈ 23:59, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

2011 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

And again (last time I asked Royalbroil) IP are adding unofficial crap to the article. Royalbroil semiprotected it a while back, and now they are doing the same as before. I should know when they update them, I look at the web sites for every track to review them. I'm wondering if it could be semi-protected untill February 1, 2011, when most of the sponsors WILL BE announced. Nascar 1996 00:53, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Please look at The Big One (NASCAR). Nascar 1996 19:13, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Do you think the article is needed? Nascar 1996 01:04, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Royalbroil delt with the the article, so what do you think about protecting the NASCAR season? Nascar 1996 16:09, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry I didn't get to this. I would consider inserting hidden comments to warn oblivious editors, and also warning them on their talk pages. If that doesn't work, yes, protection until 2/2011 would be appropriate. Airplaneman ✈ 16:28, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

It seems to be different people every time. Nascar 1996 16:48, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

That's why hidden comments should help; warnings couldn't hurt, either. Airplaneman ✈ 18:23, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

I already had one hidden comment before the team table, and I added one before the schedule just a couple of minutes ago. So the hidden comment didn't help that much. I probably will begin warning the users. Nascar 1996 18:43, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

For your information

I'd appreciate your input at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels#A new direction. Cheers. sonia♫ 03:07, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Please reconsider your deletion of NJ division of criminal justice article. The division is the chief law enforcement agency in NJ and should be represented in wikipeadia173.61.102.254 (talk) 11:59, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Escalante Petrified Forest State Park

Hello, My name is Brad Adkins and I work for Utah State Parks. Escalante Petrified Forest State Park is one of the parks we manage. You have deleted the page I created for this park because of a copyright infringement. Copyright infringement is impossible for two reasons: 1) Utah State Parks does not copyright it's information. 2) The page you are citing, the one we're supposedly infringing upon, is in fact, getting it's information directly from our official website. (refer back to reason #1)

Please respond back to me and let me know that you've re-instated the page I created. Thank you. Brad Adkins Utah State Parks bradadkins@utah.gov bradadkins274@gmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bradadkins274 (talk • contribs) 15:33, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

I just forwarded an email from the Utah State Parks Administrative office to permissions-commons AT wikimedia DOT org and to permissions-en AT wikimedia DOT org. The email explicitly gives permission to use any/all information obtained on the Utah State Parks website (http://stateparks.utah.gov) for any/all Wikipedia uses. Please reinstate the Escalante Petrified Forest State Park page that I created. It cannot be copyright infringement from the website you cited(http://www.scenicsouthernutah.com/recreation_areas/escalante_petrified_forest.shtml), because the website you cited got the information from OUR non-copyrighted website. Thank you for restoring this page. Brad Adkins Utah State Parks Bradadkins274 (talk) 20:30, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Please let me know when it is approved, and I will restore the article ASAP. Regards, Airplaneman ✈ 05:02, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I just read this, and I will restore the page now. Happy editing, Airplaneman ✈ 04:04, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

About Jan Šebek

Some months ago, someone created an article about Conor Clifford, and then someone deleted it because he hasn't made his official debut. So, why Jan Šebek, Sam Walker, Jacopo Sala, Aliu Djaló and Jhon Pírez have to have their own articles if they haven't made their official debut in any team? Now, another thing happens, the four first articles that I said violate the copyright rules, as you can see in this links: Jan Sebek, Sam Walker, Jacopo Sala, Aliu Djaló. I'll be waiting for your answer. Archibald Leitch (talk) 19:50, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

I don't know why. Airplaneman ✈ 23:23, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Jan Šebek's article in its current state (the most recent revision as of the timestamp at the end of this post) does not seem to violate copyright rules. (see here for the removal). Remember that WP:G11 applies only if there is no content worth saving. Also, this edit summary was not a good one. I think you know why.
Same with Sam Walker (removal)
Same with Aliu Djaló (removal)
I have deleted Jacopo Sala under WP:G4.
Airplaneman ✈ 23:35, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

World Games/all time medal table

A tag has been placed on World Games/all time medal table, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from an implausible typo.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you believe that there is a reason to keep the redirect, you can request that administrators wait a while before deleting it. To do this, affix the template {{hangon}} to the page and state your intention on the article's talk page. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. ANG CHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 09:34, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Actually how did that page even get created? Curious... ANG CHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 09:34, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

I moved it to a more suitable name back in March and never requested deletion per WP:R3. Thanks for cleaning up. Airplaneman ✈ 22:30, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

A pleasure. I got a shock then when I thought the medal table was hosted on an article subpage. But all's good now :) ANG CHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 00:56, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Your input is requested

I have started an RfC on inappropriate userboxes, i.e. those that don't follow the introductory paragraph at WP:UBX:

"A userbox (commonly abbreviated as UBX) is a small colored box ... designed to appear only on a Wikipedian's user page as a communicative notice about the user, in order to directly (or even indirectly) help Wikipedians collaborate more effectively on articles."

How does a userbox about a user's own preferences in regards to what topics on Wikipedia they hate and what type of sexually explicit material they like and actively view help Wikipedians collaborate with one another? Which is the question I am raising.

This introductory paragraph over at WP:UBX contradicts WP:NOTCENSORED so I'd like you to weigh in at WT:UBX, it'll only take 5 minutes of your time. I've sent this message because the topic has not had much community input

Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot on behalf of Fridae'sDoom (talk) at 20:51, 15 October 2010 (UTC).

OK So let's look at a real sockpuppet creator's page.

User talk:Zbl I suggest you look at the section unblock and look at my suggestion for that VANDAL. Ian (talk) 00:14, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Hm... note that the user was blocked over three and a half years ago, so they have probably moved on and won't see your post. Please don't condone socking; it's wrong. I see you're mostly dabbling around in talk pages; maybe try focusing on some article writing or vandal whacking (WP:TWINKLE is an awesome script for all kinds of things including vandal whacking that would be good to install if you haven't yet). Next, patrol recent changes for vandalism (WP:LUPIN helps you find the vandalistic edits) and if you find bad ones, either fix them by cleaning them up, or if it is obvious vandalism, undo them and use twinkle to give the appropriate warning (usually start at level one and then go to two, etc.) WP:RCP is a helpful page, and Mono is a knowledgable user with vandal-fighting experience; ask him if you have any questions. Airplaneman ✈ 04:16, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Or feel free to ask me if mono's not responding- I have a very differnet login pattern than Mono does. Access Denied ^{[FATAL ERROR]} 04:29, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

So does that mean that he's now banned? Just wondering....Ian (talk) 04:52, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Nope, just blocked. There is a difference (see WP:BLOCK and WP:BAN respectively). Block just means the editor's ability to edit has been taken away. A ban means that a user is not allowed to edit, and it is usually enforced with a block. Airplaneman ✈ 13:58, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Mac issues

Hi, I have two quick questions:

Are you still using Hiuggle on Mac, and is it reliable and worth the hassle downloading and installing it? (I use 10.6.4 on a variety of new and not so new machines).
Do you have any idea why New Page Patroller script has suddely stopped functioning 3 days ago?

I'm getting no response from talk or support pages. BTW, Magic Trakpad is an awesome piece of equipment. Wouldn't be wihout it. --Kudpung (talk) 01:22, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi Kudpung! I did not have a good experience for Huggle on the Mac. I assume you've seen Wikipedia:Huggle/Wine. Installation was complicated; you have to download Wine and run some commands in the Terminal, but I was ultimately successful in installing Huggle (took a while). Based on my own experience, I would not recommend downloading it. It was slow and choppy and not worth the effort of installation. As of late, I have read on other talk pages that IRC, where Huggle retrieves the recent changes feed, is down a lot. I would recommend Igloo, the next best thing, which is still under development and improving with every update. A good thing about that program is that it is entirely web-based so you don't need to install anything (except a browser).

As for the NPP script (User:TheJosh/Scripts/NewPagePatrol.js), I'm not sure. It's working for me in Vector. Did you clear your cache? I have no idea whether that will help or not, but it's worth a shot.

Wish I had the Magic Trackpad, but I can't really justify the purchase, as I have a MacBook Pro with a smaller version of it built in. It is indeed a phenomenal touchpad which makes other computers' feel clunky; I would also struggle without it (or a decent optical mouse). Hope this helps, Airplaneman ✈ 04:07, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the rapid response. I actually have a large array of various Macs all round me (and quite a collection back home in France dating from 1989!) and I use Teleport to operate them all from just one keyboard and mouse. I could never get Igloo to work either. Perhaps I should try deleting and reinstalling safari. if you 'be got any more ideas, do let me know. Thanks.--Kudpung (talk) 06:10, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Ah - Igloo doesn't officially work on Safari, I don't think (at least not yet). There is a work-around, but you could also try it on a compatible browser (the native browser for igloo is Firefox, although it works fine in Chrome as well). Airplaneman ✈ 20:09, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)I can Personally attest to that above statement. :)--Talktome^(Intelati) 20:17, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

There's a hack for igloo + safari, if you really want it. THENEWMONO™ 21:17, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Appreciate your offer of help.

Airplaneman, I appreciate your offer of help. Thank you. Thank you for the welcome. Let me know if I can help in any way, or if you think I can improve my style.

Kind Regards Larry Reuben

--LarryReuben (talk) 08:02, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Just a reference for the future, but you're supposed to put the {{helpme}} on your own user talk page, Larry. And I've responded to your queries. —Dark 08:24, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, DarkFalls :) Airplaneman ✈ 15:43, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

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50Listed.com: Deleted!

Hi!

I was creating an article and was not able to add the hangon tag before it was deleted. I would like to reattempt the article titled 50Listed. Would this be okay? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Curtislee28 (talk • contribs) 03:28, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi; sorry for the late response. I'm sorry to say that it doesn't look like 50Listed meets our notability criteria for companies. Additionally, you seem to be the founder of the company, which is a conflict of interest. Please don't take this personally, but I don't think the 50Listed article will last very long if you try to create it a third time. Please ask if you have any further questions. Regards, Airplaneman ✈ 23:12, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

GOCE copy edit drive

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors Backlog Elimination Drive!

The Wikipedia Guild of Copy-Editors invites you to participate in the November 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive, a month-long effort to reduce the backlog of articles that require copy-editing. The drive will begin on 1 November at 00:00 (UTC) and will end on 30 November at 23:59 (UTC). The goal for this drive is to reduce the backlog by 10% (approximately 500 articles). We hope to focus our efforts on the oldest three months (January, February, and March 2009) and the newest three months (September, October, and November 2010) of articles in the queue.

Sign-up has already begun at the November drive page, and will be open throughout the drive. If you have any questions or concerns, please leave a message on the drive's talk page.

Before you begin copy-editing, please carefully read the instructions on the main drive page. Please make sure that you know how to copy-edit, and be familiar with the Wikipedia Manual of Style.

Awards and barnstars

A range of barnstars will be awarded to active participants, some of which are exclusive to GOCE drives. More information on awards can be found on the main drive page.

Thank you; we look forward to meeting you on the drive!
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ducret school deletion

hello, you've deleted the ducret school of art page. I'm sure your reasons are valid, but the the ducret school's long history, the fact that it's the only private art school left in NJ and the number of legitimate artists, some of whom have hung in the national gallery might- dont you think, give some value to having a ducret page on wikipedia? Please reconsider. if there is some language we should be using that's less self-serving, I'm all ears.

best regards, 98.221.227.19 (talk) 02:31, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Hello. I assume you are Paulelwood (talk · contribs), correct? Yes, I deleted the page because it was, as you aptly put it, self-serving. The school does have some coverage so creating an article on it would be fine. What I suggest would be creating a reliably-sourced (numerous third-party sources) article in a user subpage of yours so you can nurture it before it is moved to the article space (sorry if I'm confusing you; see Wikipedia:Namespace for more information). The page's title could be User:Paulelwood/Ducret School. Write it as you would any article, and I can help you adjust it before it's published. How does that sound? Airplaneman ✈ 00:36, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

P.S.: You seem to be associated with the school, which is a possible conflict of interest (as noted on your talk page). Please be careful. Airplaneman ✈ 00:38, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

HomeVestors

I find it odd that the creator claims that he has no connection to the company even though his username suggest he does. In any case this isn't an A7 candidate per the phrase is the largest homebuyer in the United States. I have actually seen the "we buy ugly houses" commercial here locally. Recommend AFD for this. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 03:01, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

I've seen the ads too, and I think I might actually know an executive in the company. Still, some editors want to write about a topic and choose the name of their article as their username, as usually it's a WP:SPA. THEMONO™ 04:28, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

I'll mull this over and dig deeper. At first glance, the company may meet WP:CORP. I will softbock the account, however, per the username policy. Airplaneman ✈ 22:48, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Igor Ivanov Izi

When a page asserts awards, it's worth checking for references before placing a BLP prod. Whether he's actually notable, I can;t say. DGG ( talk ) 06:01, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that'd be a good idea. I'll keep this in mind for next time. Airplaneman ✈ 22:47, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Currently writing a new page

Hi, Airplaneman. I'm making a new page here, and since you've created several articles, could you take a look at the draft every now and then to make sure I'm on the right track? I am a violinist ♫ talk to me here! 13:16, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Was about to delete the page when you removed the tag... Airplaneman ✈ 14:18, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

This is an interesting topic and overall a pretty good start. I have made some revisions (visible here) with edit summaries explaining why I made the changes. As always, please ask if you have questions about the edit summaries. One important aspect that is missing is that there is no mention on why this topic is notable and fit for inclusion on Wikipedia. You need to make a claim of notability that is backed up by a reliable reference. As this is a product, also make sure the content isn't inadvertently advert-like. I know this is a lot, but this will ensure that you have a solid article more than ready for publication into the mainspace. Airplaneman ✈ 22:38, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Email

Please email me. I need some support. Ian (talk) 21:05, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

I've emailed you. Ian (talk) 21:17, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Done, and done. Ian (talk) 23:04, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Ghana Empire

Dear Airplaneman,

Thank you for your message dated 8/9/2010, I only accessed it recently as I had a hiatus from Wikipedia. Re: Ghana Empire, you need to be aware that I'm am of the ancient royal tribes of both The Ancient Ghanaian empire (aka Ouagadougou (french spelling) Wagadugu (English British spelling) and Morocco. Hence my making contributions to the aforementioned page. All too often the Oral traditions of indigenous Africans are disregarded, in favor of international Academic or other verifiable sources.

I would like to thank you and take you up your invitation, to discuss this extensive subject in more detail.

Your quote: "There is very little evidence and that convoluted, that there is any real historical connection between the two".

I respectfully disagree. I added considerable Academic references to the page (see references), which substantiated the contributions made. Please bear in mind we are talking about a living breathing culture and history, of which many (myself included) are proud of.

Our King HM Mohammed VI of Morocco never speaks in public about Morocco's connection with the indigenous culture (Imazighen). Oficcially they are a minority in Morocco. In adition Article 3 of the 1956 edition of our constitution calls us Arabs and Arabophones. In fact 90% of the population are of Amazigh aka Saharan descent (and in certain cases of Mixed Amazigh and exo-African Heritage), whilst 10% are of pure Arab descent. see: Ennaji. M (2007) Multi-Lingualism, Cultural Identity and Education in Morocco, Springer, NY, USA.

Moreover this fact amongst others was suppressed by the former King (the reasons for this well known action (inside africa and diplomatic circles) I would also like to discuss indepth. This lack of knowledge, paved the way for a totalitarian regime to launched military attacks against the riff and Soussi and Western saharans (also of the Soussi and Gnaoua), whilst creating policies of discrimination against our North West and West African Neighbors.

Many Imazighen are fair in complexion because of the pillaging (on account of the Romans, vandals, phoenicians and arabs). Hence in chelha they are called Batoura (Mixed Amazigh and exo-African Heritage). see: Hart, D.M. (2000) Tribe and Society in Rural Morocco, Frank Cass Publishers, USA. The originally are darker in complexion because morocco's history (from tribal and moroccan academic accounts) began when they lived in the Sahara, migrated to the Souus valley and eventually settled in Marrakech (Chelha to mean land of God).

Books (These are some of the references I submitted)

[Bernasek, L & Burger, H. S. (2008) Imazighen!: Beauty and Artisanship in Berber Life, Peabody Museum Press]
[Courtney-Clarke, M & Brooks, G. (1996) Imazighen: The Vanishing Traditions of Berber Women, Thames & Hudson Ltd, London, U.K]
[El-Ghissassi, H. (2006) Regard sur Le Laroc de Mohamed VI, Michel Lafon]
[Ennaji, M (2005) Multilingualism, Cultural Identity and Education in Morocco, Springer, New York, USA]
[Harris, W. (2003) Morocco that Was, Eland Books, London, U.K]
[Hart, D.M. (2000) Tribe and Society in Rural Morocco, Frank Cass Publishers]
[Howe, M (2005) Morocco: The Islamist Awakening and Other Challenges, University of Oxford Press, New York, USA]
[Hoffman, K.E. (2008) We Share Walls: Language, Land, and Gender in Berber Morocco, Wiley-Blackwell]
[Maxwell, G (2000) Lords of the Atlas, Weindenfeld Nicholson Illustrated]
[Maxwell, G (2002) Lords of the Atlas: The Rise and Fall of the House of Glaoua 1893–1956, The Lyons Press]
[McKissack, F. & McKissack, P. (1995)The Royal Kingdoms of Ghana, Mali, and Songhay: Life in Medieval Africa, Henry Holt and Co. LLC]
[Pennell, C.R. (2003) Morocco: From Empire to Independence, OneWorld Publications]
[Pennel, C.R. (2001) Morocco since 1830: A History, NYU Press, USA]
[Porch, D (1983) The Conquest of Morocco - The Bizarre History of France's Last Great Colonial Adventure, the Long Struggle to Subdue a Medieval Kingdom By Intrigue and Force of Arms 1903-1914, Knopf]
[Porch, D, 2nd Ed (2005) The Conquest of the Sahara, Ferrar, Straus & Giroux]
[Rogerson, B & Lavington, S Edited by (2004) Marrakech, The Red City: The City through Writers' Eyes, Sickle Moon Books]

Journals and other sources can also be provided (this forms less than 1% of my dissertation (American consisting of 30,000 words or more), which was more than 10 years in the making) .

I look forward to hearing from you.

Kind Regards,

Abdel Noor (Abdel Noor (talk) 00:03, 22 October 2010 (UTC)).

Hello Abdel,

I just wanted to clarify that I did not make the post you are responding to, hence my initial confusion upon receiving your message. I only posted the welcome message, and have figured out that the post was made by Beepsie (talk · contribs), as can be seen here. I have moved the section accordingly on your talk page to clarify. I have also formatted the list of references you gave into a bullet format so they can be read easier. Since I have no background knowledge on the subject you are editing, I can primarily offer general editing tips and not tips on specific content. Part of your post here that stood out to me was All too often the Oral traditions of indigenous Africans are disregarded, in favor of international Academic or other verifiable sources. I'm afraid that oral and indigenous traditions will continue to be underrepresented until verifiable sources are found; it looks like you are providing quite a few above, however (yay!) I know this most likely does not fully address your concerns, but I hope it scratches the surface. I have notified Beepsie about this conversation and we'll see what they have to add. Best, Airplaneman ✈ 00:29, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Hello Airplaneman,

Thank you very much for your response. I too was initially confused, when the afore message said that it was sent by yourself. I now realize that this was a typo. I'm glad the mystery was solved. Indeed this does help to scratch the surface. I gladly look forward to our future correspondence.

All the best, Abdel Noor (Abdel Noor (talk) 20:07, 28 October 2010 (UTC))

hey can you fix the single

i noticed on the article "Move That Body" you made it where there can be no more edits. but the song has not internationaly charted. So it is now legit to make the single an official article! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.173.135.8 (talk) 00:59, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Hm... so it hasn't internationally charted? Oh, and you're referring to Move That Body (Nelly song), correct? I am hesitant about unprotecting it until it clearly meets the notability standards at WP:NSONG. Airplaneman ✈ 01:07, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

The standard format we use for non-charting singles is extensive coverage from reliable sources. This doesn't really have that. It is not notable until critics and magazine start speaking about it and/or until the artist begins promoting it. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 17:14, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Having a cover or date alone is not notable. We can have that kind of info about dates on the album's page. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 17:15, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your response, Lil-unique. I will hold off with unprotection for the time being. Airplaneman ✈ 14:23, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Kevin Bartlett Drummer page deletion

Hi there Airplaneman, I'm wondering if you could help me. I have been trying to write an article about Kevin Bartlett the English drummer, however it keeps getting deleted under the rule that the article does not signify the importance of the individual. My article clearly shows that Mr Bartlett is a recording artist and although may not be mainstream he is notable. His Band Eumeria will be releasing their debut album in the spring of 2011 backed by a major record label. We are trying to get things up and running before then for people who may want to find out a little bit more information.

If you could offer some guidance as to what to do I would really appreciate it.

Many thanks Bartldrum (talk) 01:58, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to be blunt, but I don't think your (looks like you have a possible conflict of interest with Mr. Bartlett) article will survive for very long if you recreated it for the same reason it has been deleted in the past. If he achieves success once his album is released next year, you could try writing it again, but yea, I'm sorry to say that I don't think his article will last if it is recreated. Regards, Airplaneman ✈ 02:21, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

P.S. If you want to take the time, please list ten or more reliable sources that back up the claims of notability you have made. If you can't find any (or they're deemed unreliable) then I think you should definitely hold off with the article's creation. Airplaneman ✈ 02:23, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Good luck

Hi, Airplaneman. Good luck on your WikiBreak. Ian (talk) 06:05, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

All done! Ian (talk) 06:05, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Talkback to I.P.

Hello, Airplaneman. You have new messages at Ian.bjorn's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

And PLEASE don't laugh. It hurts my feelings. Back when I was in regular school, kids used to ask me to say my initials. I said I.B.P., but they said no middle initial. So I said "I.P.", and everybody around me would laugh. It sounds like "I Pee." Ian (talk) 20:51, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

deletion TRANSMEDIA ACTIVISM

Hi Just had a Google alert on transmedia and (as I'm an expert in the field) I was keen to see if I'd meet any new activists via the new Wiki page. But hey, presto! the page is gone. What's the competence criteria for deleting such a page? This is a burgeoning media field, with implications for readers keen to know more about social media strategy to narrative fractals. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.242.181.136 (talk) 15:33, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Transmedia Activism; after the deletion discussion began, the author requested deletion, so I speedily deleted it. I don't think the Wikipedia page is the best place to meet new activists; it's supposed to be an encyclopedic entry. Regards, Airplaneman ✈ 20:10, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Explanation to Latin Liagtures

Actually, I can explain vvhy there is a reason to redirect.

1) British spell the vvord "Negro" as "Negroe" (hence the oe is converted to a Latin ligature: "œ".) ^[1]

2) The vvord from "Novus ordo sæclorum" is genitive plural, vvhich is vvritten as seclorum on the dollar bill. SÆCLORUM (includes the Latin ligature "æ") is the etymological origin of seclorum. Is is almost the same as the simplifiation of the British English spelling of "mediæval" into American Englis spelling of "medieval".^[2] via http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/saeclorum

序名三「Jyonasan」 ^Talk _Stalk 21:42, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

I still don't get how they'd be useful, though. For instance, "Negroe"≠"Negrœ". Airplaneman ✈ 01:48, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Your instance is not true. Latin Ligatures are basially the same letter, same pronunciation, same meaning. Like your name; in the UK they spell "Airplane" as "Æroplane" (Aeroplane vvithout the Latin Ligature.) :D e.g. Pædophile is spelled as pedophile in the US. It is just spelling differences by country. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 序名三 (talk • contribs) 22:25, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Do people actually type this in the search bar is what I'm asking - for instance, I would guess they'd search "aeroplane". I'll leave those redirects alone; I was just wondering how they'd be employed, not whether they were correct or not. Cheers, Airplaneman ✈ 22:54, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Your question is valid. Actually, I am not sure if many people search up vvith Latin ligatures. (e.g. Michæl vvould usually be typed as Michael.) But vvhat I am sure that the majority of lingüists in the language community take recognition of typographic ligatures, especially in association vvith Latin (Romance) languages. (e.g. "Mæstro" meaning "teacher" in English.) Other uses of ligatures are used in transliteration & the International Phonetic Alphabet, using æ & œ. The ampersand itself ('and' symbol) is a Latin ligature, deriving from Latin 'et' meaning "and." 序名三「Jyonasan」 ^Talk _Stalk 01:13, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

It is important to consider ligatures throughout VVikipedia, as it is part of our history on the Languages of Latin, Old English, etc. that used and STILL use typographic ligatures. "Æ/æ", "Œ/œ", and the ampersand, "&" are very common ligatures, all derived from Latin (used in Old English). They are from the forms of "ae", "oe", and "et" (Latin for "and"). "Et" can be seen easily as a ligature vvith the Trebuchet MS font, shovvn here: "&".

Hmmm... although I still do not see the usefulness of these redirects, I'm not going to waste my time to crusade for their deletion, as their existence isn't doing harm to this encyclopedia or breaching any policies/guidelines (as far as I know). Thanks for the explanation; this is interesting stuff :). Airplaneman ✈ 01:19, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Identification Technology Partners, Inc.

Wondering about the reasoning behind the speedy deletion. I never noticed a nom for deletion or chance to defend the article. I was planning on contributing by adding verifiable sources. The company is a key player in the biometrics industry and has developed independent technology that benefits the government's PIV initiative. Thanks! Cmcginni (talk) 03:18, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

I deleted it under WP:A7 after someone tagged it. I've restored it to User:Cmcginni/Identification Technology Partners, Inc. for you to work on. If you have any questions, just ask. Happy editing, Airplaneman ✈ 03:20, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

I contacted some editors to add information so that the page meets the WP:A7 requirements. The logo also now has a Non-free use rationale. All changes were made at User:Cmcginni/Identification Technology Partners, Inc. Is the article able to be restored now? Thanks for your help! Cmcginni (talk) 15:55, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

It looks just fine, so I will restore it to Identification Technology Partners, Inc. Try finding more references if you can, though; they can't hurt. Also, please act on the suggestions given at Talk:Identification Technology Partners, Inc. Best, Airplaneman ✈ 02:41, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

CSD

Thank you for your comments and suggestions. I will make sure to leave the notifications! jsfouche (talk) 04:01, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

No problem; if you need anything, just ask :). Airplaneman ✈ 04:03, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Mainpage

Robert Falcon Scott is on the mainpage-- I'm not going to look up the guideline, but you're not supposed to protect it except in extremely rare circumstances. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:05, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Found, WP:NOPRO. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:07, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the note - please see the last paragraph of WP:SILVERLOCK. I only protected it for six hours, but if you think that's too much, I'll go and unprotect it. Airplaneman ✈ 04:09, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Please do unprotect it; IPs are supposed to be able to edit the TFA, and the vandalism was not excessive; many editors watch the TFA and revert vandalism, and the mainpage should only be protected in extreme circumstances. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:11, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Anyway it says until "00:00, 28 October 2010 (UTC).--TalkToMe_c^intelati 04:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Done—unprotected. The "until "00:00, 28 October 2010 (UTC)"" is the full move-protection, not the level of semi-protection I added onto this. Sandy, I will keep this discussion in mind when handling future TFA protect requests. Thanks again, Airplaneman ✈ 04:14, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Oops, did I delete something incorrectly on my last edit? Since I don't have admin tools, I'm not sure what that was. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:16, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Nope, it was perfectly fine :). I think the template just adds it from the semi-protected pages hidden category, since the lock icon doesn't show up if the page isn't actually protected. DumbBOT would've gotten to it later if you hadn't. Airplaneman ✈ 04:21, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

OK, that's what I thought. Thanks! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:29, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

As an aside, WP:NOPRO was changed after a discussion a little while back. It now says that, when considering protection, it should be treated like any other article. Not that I think it's usually implemented that way, or should be, but that's what it says.

Airplaneman, I can understand why you protected it and I don't think it was a particularly rotten call - the article wasn't getting slaughtered, but there was a definite flurry of malicious edits just before you protected it, edits that resembled a lame 4chan attack. Also, I appreciate the restraint on your part (six hours). I cringe whenever I see the TFA being protected for a few days or longer, when a few hours will usually fix the problem. So thanks. --Bongwarrior (talk) 08:59, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Please reinstate The ZEN MULTIVERSE article

The Followers of the Understandable Truisms of the ZEN MULTIVERSE is a small religion looking for new members. We wish to have our basic doctrine returned to Wikipedia in hopes that more people can find out about us. We had planned many more articles to validate ourselves but were saddened to find that we were considered (G1: Patent nonsense, meaningless, or incomprehensible)

We are offended by this terminology.

The fact that the initial article contained references to airplanes was because the prophet Michael drew inspiration from the process of airline travel in planning the future of our religion.

Please re-consider your decision and reinstate the ZEN MULTIVERSE Wikipedia article.

ZENMULTIVERSE (talk) 18:34, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

At the very least, the article would be deleted under WP:A7 and WP:G11. Wikipedia isn't the place to advertise, and I have blocked your username as a violation of our username policy. Please don't be offended; I'm not here to troll. It's a hobby of mine, and it'd be a, extreme waste of my time if I came here to hurt others. I just don't think this subject is eligible for an article here yet. If you have any questions, just ask. Regards, Airplaneman ✈ 20:35, 24 October 2010 (UTC)