Talk:Widowmaker (Overwatch)

Wiki Education assignment: Media and Mis-Disinformation

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Unofficial statue

@Kung Fu Man: Is it extra to include mention of the statue? And even if not, should we? It's an unofficial work and the sourcing on it isn't from Blizzard or a third-party RS, so I'm thinking it'd probably get called out in a GAR, and even if it doesn't I think there would still be some concerns with its notability in the context of this article perhaps? Soulbust (talk) 21:51, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

It should be fine, we're primarily using the source to define that the product exists. In the context of the article itself, it illustrates unofficial efforts and also the back of the character (which is also a significant part of the discussion...thanks Conan for that...)--Kung Fu Man (talk) 02:27, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Widowmaker (Overwatch)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Cukie Gherkin (talk · contribs) 13:09, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):

   b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a. (reference section):

   b. (citations to reliable sources):

   c. (OR):

   d. (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a. (major aspects):

   b. (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):

   b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

Lead

Looks good

Infobox

1. Maybe put Roman and Zhang as their own line? It could be misinterpreted that only Zhang worked on her equipment.
   1. Fixed

Concept and development

1. Be sure to slip Roman Kenney's involvement in the visor design in somewhere.
   1. Done
2. "Among them" used twice in the same sentence; split into two sentences or tweak to be less repetitive.
   1. Done

Design

1. Does the Dark Horse Comics source state that it's a play on a French saying? Also, is it worth mentioning what the original phrase was?
   1. It does, but the saying is a bit long so may be out of place to say the whole thing.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 13:52, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

Appearances

1. I think my big concern would be that the shorts use primary sources; are there any RSes that discuss Widowmaker having appeared in these shorts? I think it's probably more concerning than the comics, as the shorts are basically trailers.
   1. I mean we could, but summarizing the shorts themselves should have the same purpose as summarizing a television episode or game level if we're linking back to the actual upload, shouldn't it?

Gameplay

1. "In Overwatch, Widowmaker is classified as a "Damage" class character, designed to provide a more offensive role in team compositions.[22] She was originally classified as a "Defense" class character before it and "Offense" class characters were combined into one class." I'm a touch confused, though that might be my fault. Is it the case that Defense and Offense characters all became Damage class characters?
   1. Clarified

Promotion and reception

1. "Blizzard also released a 13.5" (34 cm) statue of the character,[35] and an unofficial 20" (51 cm) resin statue released by HummingBird Studio in 2022." This reads a little strangely. Did Blizzard release the HummingBird statue?
2. "Gita Jackson of Kotaku noted that Blizzard Entertainment leaned hard into the femme fatale "fetish-y roots" aspect of her character, and while she approved noted fans were not always receptive to this particular aspect." What is a 'noted fan'?
   1. Fixed and fixed
3. I feel as though the Polygon paragraph might be taking some inferences. To me, I read it, and I think that the text is implying that the alternate costumes were what caused Cass to say what they said in quotes, but reading the article, it's more talking generally about the core concept behind Widowmaker's design process. Also, the second part of that quote feels like it's meant to be the unreasonable perspective, as the first part of the quote is clearly what the author believes to be true. I'd recommend just dropping the latter part of the quote.
   1. Fixed?

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:53, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

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• ... that the Overwatch character Widowmaker was designed with some inspiration from the World of Warcraft character Sylvanas Windrunner? Source: Burns, Matt (October 24, 2017). Simpson, Robert; Gary, Cate; Monahan, Allison (eds.). The Art of Overwatch Limited Edition. Dark Horse Comics. p. 112. ISBN 9781506705538.
  • ALT1: ... that on his talk show, Conan O'Brien and his guests set up an Overwatch match with only Widowmakers to "stare at the shiny butts"? Source: https://www.techtimes.com/articles/160690/20160524/conan-and-game-of-thrones-stars-really-like-overwatchs-widowmaker-in-new-clueless-gamer.htm
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Flu Game shoes
  • Comment: QPQ to be done soon. Completed now. Soulbust (talk) 13:38, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

Improved to Good Article status by Soulbust (talk) and Kung Fu Man (talk). Nominated by Soulbust (talk) at 19:35, 15 June 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Widowmaker (Overwatch); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Can I suggest a tweak of the first hook for clarity and conciseness? ♠PMC♠ (talk) 09:04, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

• ALT2: ... that the visual design of Overwatch character Widowmaker was inspired by World of Warcraft character Sylvanas Windrunner?

Yeah I like that ALT2. Soulbust (talk) 21:48, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

• • • All requirements met, with QPQ completed and GA status confirmed. Did my own quick scan of the article and it seems all in order. Approve, but prefer hooks ALT0 and ALT2. Sorry about the long wait. ~ Pbritti (talk) 17:22, 15 July 2023 (UTC)