Talk:Terry Bogard

Alice Bogard?

I am wondering if Alice Board is a real character from an upcomming Garou game or is it a hoax from someone posting on wiki? If real, does anyone have a link to a credible online site that makes mention of this character and this game.

After finding a description of her on the Terry Wiki page, I looked online for more infomation about Alice and the Garou Legends of the Wild Wolf game (if it actually exist.) However, I could not find any and because past history on wikipedia shows that an Alice Bogard character page was removed on wikipedia a few times recently, I would have to assume that it is a hoax unless further information and an actual reference article surfaces..

I find odd that the article for her is attached to Terry's article rather than an article of the Wild Wolf (which a wiki page doesn't exist.) Furthermore, the character bio on wiki seems to be written as if the character is a fan made character. Accordin to the wiki article, she is the cousin and obsessive fan of Terry, to the point of dressing and copying him. It further goes on to trivia dabble like how Billy Kane groped her and as a result, hate perverts and how she enters the tournment to fight Geese. Unless this game is before real bout, isn't Geese suppose to be dead?

Because there is lack of source references on the article and that I can't find anything on a new Garou game on Joystiq, Kotaku or 1up.com, I have since removed the badly written bio of hers on the Terry Bogard wiki article.

If it is real, we can create and add her description on the Alice Bogard or Garou Legend of the Wild wolf page rather than just stickin it on the Terry Bogard's page. Also, addin reference sources with linksof where the picture and the description would be helpful to verify that Alice Bogard and Legend of the Wiild Wolf is real and not fan fiction mumbo jumbo.

--Doomzaber (talk) 17:40, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

The only thing I found for Alice were the pachinko games and the Days of Memories dating sim. In the latter, Alice isn't related to Terry at all. Her name is completely different, "Alice Garnet Nakata". She "cosplays" as him and idolizes Terry's go-getter personality. In the slot game, she follows Terry wherever he goes. She was a limited edition cell phone buddy for Yahoo mobile but I can't find the link to that anymore. Secondary sources are hard to come by but she does exist. 1 2 3 Sake neko (talk) 04:01, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

New Edit

Well, I've been following the Terry article for almost a year now, and after stepping in to clean up Rock's (still left a few things in tact that quite frankly were still POV, but whatever) but I'm shocked at what's going on here. An entire debate over whether or not Ken and Terry are "rivals" etc. But in all fairness, as long as all Capcom/SNK "relationships" are treated as such (non encyclopedia...well...eh, not like Terry being able to tell a woman's measurements is more relevant...anyways) bottom line this article needs to be cleaned up as well. Such as the "character relationships", where it's stated "Ryo" is his new rival (...again...this is even more speculative/pov than Ken's) and how the Garou storyline is heavily dramatized/in universe. I was basing the Rock guide off Terry's only to search for a citation of the battle and finding nothing, and thus I've decided to clean up this section is well. I will also be removing the "in universe" quote, as my edits should limit everything to the canonical story of the Fatal Fury and King of Fighters games. I'm asking please to not revert my work (cleaning up POV is never pretty) but please discuss it with me here if you like/do not like the changes. Dream Rurouni 21:34, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

GET SERIOUS! ORA ORA! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.207.77.245 (talk) 03:50, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

I would like to point out that within the KoF games Terry usually will have a witty thing to say about Ryo and his team after fighting them, which he normally does not do to opponents. You can see this in XI, as well as see the two clashing in 1999 Dream Match's opening (check youtube) and two of their pictures clashing in the XI opening. In Fatal Fury: Wild Ambition, Mr Karate(Ryo)'s ending has him and Terry fighting after Geese is defeated. In KoF: Maximum Impact 2/The King of Fighters 2006, Mr. Karate's story background states that he wants to defeat Terry so he can feel like he really was able to beat Geese. Considering ALL of these facts, I think its perfectly acceptable to believe Terry and Ryo are indeed rivals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.106.158.91 (talk) 18:37, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Recent edits

I've noticed the constant reiteration of this information inserted into the article:

Despite popular belief, Kyo isn't SNK's strongest character. SNK's strongest character is actually Terry Bogard. The reason for Terry's losses in KOFs after Fatal Fury is because Fatal Fury was his story. Terry only enters for fun. The same trend applies to Kyo as once the Orochi saga was finished, K' won all of the KOFs in the NESTS saga. Now with the ASH saga, Ash has been winning. The winners of KOF depend on the main character of the saga.

While this may be possibly true, it is unreferenced and it depicts POV, especially the Despite popular belief, Kyo isn't SNK's strongest character. bit. If it's someone's wish to insert this into the article, I would very much like to see an source for it and some reasoning regarding it. I've also posted this on the Kyo Kusanagi talkpage for anyone interested, as its being blatently inserted into that article as well. -Zero^Talk 14:30, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Recently, this was inserted as well:

In the Capcom/SNK crossover games, Terry is paired as being SNK's equivalent to Capcom's Ken, who is quite similar in attitude and looks. Kyo Kusanagi is the character paired with Ryu, since, even though he's a younger character, Kyo's by far the more popular one. However, in skill level and sheer power, Terry is more an equal to Ryu than Kyo is.

This is an violation of WP:NPOV plain and simple. Its pie-in-the-sky to think as to how this comment is keeping the article in an productive state of neutrality. This must desist. -Zero^Talk 16:46, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Yowza, both of the quoted sections are fansite foolishness, and don't belong in this article. Good catch, Zero.

By the way, when this article is unprotected, the quotes need to be removed, and the list of moves needs to be carefully considered for removal. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 00:47, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

I've moved a great deal of the quotes over to wikiquote and placed an respective link. Now what should we do about the moves list..? Transfer that to wikibooks..? -Zero^Talk 16:37, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

I'd say so, if Wikibooks is still taking game guides. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 16:49, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I wouldn't classify it as an game guide. Its really just an descriptive summary of each attack in regards to the real world. It doesn't explain to the player any gameplay information. -Zero^Talk 17:04, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

I'll trust your judgement. I don't know much about Wikibooks. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 17:52, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Nor do I. I'll take a trip over there and construct an inquiry later. -Zero^Talk 18:42, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

It has no gameplay information but frankly why shouldn't it? An indepth FAQ is a bit much and is obviously more fit for wiki book, but if I'm looking up information on a character I think I might be interested in that! The general argument is that this information would not appear in an a real encylepedia, but frankly a fighting game character(or fighting game period) would never make such an appearance and the only reason it would not be expanded upon would be to save space and due to the lack of a true expect. Wikapedia suffers from none of these problems and thusly I see it as stupid to avoid gameplay information. One has the consider the type of person who would be looking this stuff up to begin with.

Note: The IP has been range blocked.Voice-of-All^T|@|ESP 02:04, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

I have inserted a note about the recent changes discussed above (hidden) in the article text. With the IP hopping around, it was the only waY I could think of to be sure the message got to the editor. It should probably be removed in a few days, when this is resolved (or sooner if it is some sort of egregious error on my part). --Hansnesse 05:53, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

He's seen the discussion here. Ignorance is not an viable excuse. I've posted an note about this on A Man In Black's talkpage. -Zero^Talk 05:57, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Rivals: Terry vs. Ken?

While I fully agree the "Terry is better than Kyo!" "No Kyo is better than Terry!" thing that went on before the protection was silly and unesscessary, recently there was an edit simply stating that Terry and Ken were rivals in the SNK vs. Series and it was left at that. Zero deleted it saying it was "garbage" and untrue. What are your grounds for saying that though? You want proof? There is a promo picture for SVC Chaos on the net of Terry and Ken fighting. Google SVC Chaos and you'll find it. Also they have a special intro in the Capcom vs. SNK games and the back of SVC Chaos has Kyo, Mai, and Terry grinning at Ryu, Chun Li, and Ken. The post (at first) said they got along as well. Ken tosses Terry his hat in the 2 Capcom vs. SNK games with a smile while Terry catches it and smiles back. Their intro conversation in SVC Chaos is also a friendly exchange. So how is any of that untrue when it's directly stated in the games?

Yes, the Terry vs. Kyo thing is unesscessary and should be deleted because neither side can prove the other wrong and it's a balant attempt to start an edit war. But this post of Ken and Terry being rivals contradicts nothing. It's even stated on Ken's page.-Hsu 18:37, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

There's no need to be so rude about it. Please depict source links for this, and I'll agree to stop removing it. Its fully within policy for me to remove them without official text sourced content. Images prove nothing. -Zero^Talk 18:52, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

So your opinion overrides promo pictures released by the two companies in question (Capcom & SNK) as well as in game animations and conversations? And since I cannot sit you down and show you in person and show you all this stuff, I have to go exploring the internet looking for a tablet where it's written in stone? o_o;; No offense but, it kind of seems like an instance where you should provide proof disproving it with everything being in game. It seems like if I do find a webpage that flat-out says Terry and Ken are official rivals from the companies, you'll tell me that site isn't credible as it's written by a fan which would be a contradiction of you saying it isn't true as you're a fan also wanting to post infomation.

We all know the SNK vs. Series doesn't take place in either continutity so saying Ken is his Capcom rival isn't saying they fight and train together on a daily or annual basis. However, I will search high and low for a picture of their conversation in SVC Chaos where one (Terry if I remember) says something similar along the lines of "We have the same scent." But I'd like for you to actually have a real reason for deleting it other than apparently just not liking it. Prove it wrong. Saying that it can't be proven by these in game convos and promo pics basically says you might as well go to Kyo and Ryu's wiki-pages and delete info about their rivalry for the SNK vs. Series, as well as Bison and Geese, Rugal and Akuma, Mai & Chun Li, and so on as their rivalries are shown in the same manner as Terry & Ken. Please don't hold a grudge against Terry's character over some random fanboy's ignorance.

I apologize if I rubbed off as rude a second time. I really don't mean to, I just fail to see how saying Terry being Ken's rival when it's spelled out for us is considered vandalism. Instead of being told I'm wrong, I'd rather be shown. -Hsu

I assure you my opinion isn't factoring in on my current actions. I own the games, but none of the dialoges say in stone that they are, in fact, rivals. Unlike Ryu and Kyo, there is official comics that depict an rivalry, as with Rugal and Akuma's place dissertion in Capcom vs SNK 2. There's many different ways for an viewer to see these images; not as an rivalry.

I has not to do with if I like it or not (I don't really mind). Its simply an matter of sourced information creeping into the site, I'm merely inquiring you to cooperate in assisting me to where you're coming from. -Zero^Talk 19:36, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Minor note: Comics shouldn't be taken as an official source since the official Street Fighter II Manga hints at a relationship between Ryu and Chun Li which isn't present in the games. I think someone said Ken also dies in it and he's alive in well in Street Fighter III. That info I recieved from Ryu's discussion page. -Hsu

"...the games, but none of the dialoges say in stone that they are, in fact, rivals."

In-Game Dialouge in SVC Chaos;
Ken: You and I share a similar smell, eh?
Terry: I was just thinking the same thing about you!

As far as I can tell, that's setting it in stone that they're the opposing companies' equivalent to the other. The PS2 release of SVC also has them against each other on the cover instead of Ryu and Kyo. Google it. http://www.toysnjoys.com/psx2/svcchaos.jpg

I reinstate the fact that they have a specific intro in the Capcom vs. series where Ken says something in Japanese while tossing Terry his hat. (I don't know any Japanese so for all I know he could be saying something along the lines of "Here ya go." but why choose Ken to do it?) The only other special intros those two have are with characters from their own companies (IE: Ken with Ryu, and Terry with Geese & Rock).

I also would like to point out for the second time that SVC's back cover has Kyo & Mai on the back along with Ryu & Chun Li, apparent rivals between the companies and Terry and Ken as well. http://www.gameexpress.com/images/product/original/828862500014B.JPG

"Images prove nothing." You very well could be right on the dot. But I don't see anything officially making Kyo & Ryu rivals beyond all this junk that I claim makes Terry & Ken rivals. Just pics(more pics, but rightfully so as their both the main-main characters of their series) and in-game stuff. Again, comics are an iffy source as the Udon Street Fighter comic features Charlie returning as Shadow, which only happened in the Marvel vs. series. (info on that gathered from Charlie's Wiki page.) Another example is Eliza getting pregnant before she and Ken were married AFTER Street Fighter 2. Then there's that whole SFII manga.

However, I've gone out and done minimum research and found these little tidbits. Instead of just saying "oh you're wrong, none of that counts," prove it. Show me some in game things or anything that proves me wrong. I was told to go out and get stuff to try and prove my point, so do the same. If I'm proven wrong, sure I'll be annoyed by it, but I'll accept it and move on. -Hsu

The edvidence that you cite has no relevance to your rival allegation at all that I can see, It is a fact that policy dictates that I don't require an reason to keep the information out. It is also a fact that you do require an source because you are attempting to insert the information in the article. -Zero^Talk 11:59, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

I posted a direct quote from the game and cited specific intros for the two of them, which is incredible relevant to my claim. Especially that whole quote part. You haven't done anything to shoot my claim down other than just saying "You're wrong." -Hsu

I'm sorry you feel that way. But until I see the depiction of a source that clearly states such an allegation out, I'll continue to stand by the standards of policy (your sources aren't all that good). I agree with your point, but it would take more than what you've provided to state the standards we demand for our original research and sources processes. In the construction of this site, we must hold off biased claims that lack supporting factual thesis. We are constructing an encyclopedia. Policy that is put in place to prevent the encyclopedia from being saturated with trivia is used to sustain perfectly good entries about well established subjects. -Zero^Talk 06:22, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

So the direct quote from SVC: Chaos, as well with all the other in-game evidence isn't enough for Wikipedia? -Hsu

The quote and source doesn't support your thesis, I'm afraid. Don't overanalyze it. This is just a short conversation to incite discussion between characters. Why, if your quote citation proved anything, its that all the characters are all rivals of each other. You might as well say the quotes between Zero and Genjuro prove they're exclusive rivals, or the discussion between Chun Li and Terry means they are rivals. Amusing caricatures, but not encyclopedic. -Zero^Talk 18:06, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Except for the fact that instead of a convo along the lines of "Ohh. You know this martial art." "Indeed, we should fight." they specifically note how they're the same, but y'know what? We're not getting anywhere in this and we won't get anywhere without a third person's perspective. You'll refuse to take any source I would ever claim and I'd continue to reject your opinion. Agree to disagree unless or until someone else were jump in on the discussion. Whenever or IF ever that may be. -Hsu

Well, since you wanted someone to jump in...

I think this argument is absolutely silly, and even if they were arguably rivals in this one crossover game, it wouldn't be worth mentioning. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 19:56, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. I also applaud this fellow for not edit warring, and I'm estatc he discussed this situation beforehand, so in that capacity, its not too silly when you think about it.-Zero^Talk 20:04, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

"even if they were arguably rivals in this one crossover game, it wouldn't be worth mentioning."

I don't see how it's not worth mentioning. Dark Rain

Even though all mentioning of the cross over rivalries has long since been erased, looking back on this issue I think Hsu Tanaka was 100% in the right. It appears like he, for whatever reason, went out of his way and obtained all the information requested of him. It's a shame it was casually ignored. But I'm happy to see that instead of ignoring Terry and Ken's company rivalry that Mai vs. Chun Li and Kyo vs. Ryu was deleted as well. Still, it's too bad because it would've made the said articles a little bit more interesting due to the similarities of the games and how exciting the cross-overs are.4.254.71.13 22:00, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Rugal

I'm attempting to format into wikibooks somehow, or a comprehensive list. Any ideas...? The evicerated section is below:

Special Techniques

• Crack Shot: Terry performs a forward somersault extending his right leg forward doing the process and is used as a hammering technique usually aimed at his opponents head which hits with the heel of the foot.

• Rising Tackle: Terry performs this move to counter aerial combatants and those who like to jump. As he sees his opponent leaping towards him, he leaps to meet his opponent in the air. Only then he inverts his body, while using his chi and his natural strength to create an inverted whirlwind-type of attack as he spins himself furiously while extending his hands. This technique can knock his opponents even higher, causing them to fall from great heights. He can also do this technique from a crouching position unto an unsuspecting opponent who foolishly tries to attack him while he's on his knees.

• Burn Knuckle: This technique is one of Terry's trademark techniques. He concentrates his chi to surround his fist like a glove. The chi around his hand drags him forward at blinding speeds and hits his opponents with pin-point precision and accuracy. The concussive force of this blow is not known, but it can easily knock large cars and trucks over on their sides, and knock large holes through brick walls with ease.

• Power Wave: Terry's other trademark technique, this move is performed when Terry strikes the ground with such impact, implanting his chi into the ground, the ground is set ablaze with Terry's chi like a wave of water. This energy wave is around 7 feet wide and about 8 feet high. The wave produces temperatures up to 600 degrees Fahrenheit while the front of the wave packs a concussive force of up to 1500 lbs. per square inch, and travels up to 250 feet. A very devastating attack. Another version of this move is called a Round Wave, which doesn't travel at all but is used as a counter to a charging opponent.

• Power Geyser: This technique is one of Terry's most powerful moves. This technique, which is similar to the Power Wave, is more of a close-ranged attack but is much more powerful. Terry thrusts his fist to the ground with such impact and force strong enough to create a small crater, his chi travels from his hands to the ground creating a radius of expolosive energy around him. This energy projected from the ground upward and outward within a 150 feet radius with a concussive force of up to 2000lbs per square inch, and temperature setting of a 1000 degrees Fahrenheit, knocking his opponents higher and farther than they'd want to go often ending the match. This is the move he defeated Krauser with. There is another version of this move called Triple Geyser which, as the name implies, is three Power Geysers one right after the other. If executed correctly, Terry's opponent gets three times the damage and is juggled backwards.

• High Angle Geyser: Another one of Terry's most powerful attacks. A Power Charge, followed by a Power Dunk, and a Power Geyser.

• Buster Wolf: This is Terry's most powerful technique. This move is done within absolute desperation. This technique is exactly the same as the Burning Knuckle technique, but done with much greater force. The energy glove around his hand at the time of impact is 10X bigger than normal, and is assumed 8 to 10 times more powerful. A very devastating technique, and one Terry wishes to never use unless the need for it is an absolute certainty.

• Power Charge: A devastating Shoulder barge, usually followed by either a 3-hit combination or a Power Dunk.

• Fire Kick: Terry slide kicks into his opponent, upon contact, he then follows up with a spinning kick sending the opponent flying and creating opportunities for juggling combos.

• Power Dunk: Terry knocks his opponent up in the air with a jumping right knee thrust, and while his opponent is stunned in mid-air from the initial blow, Terry cranks his right hand back and performs a downward thrusting Burning Knuckle knocking his opponents down to the ground with ferocious force. He also uses this move to counter aerial combatants in mid-air also as well.

• Rising Force: A similar move to Rock Howard's Shining Knuckle, the Rising Tackle inflicts more damage.

• Rising Beat (in SVC CHAOS): Virtually similar to Geese's Deadly Rave in execution, but Terry uses a Buster Wolf as the finishing blow.

• Power Stream: Terry jumps in mid-air and punches the ground, releasing a huge amount of energy around him which is used to devastate opponents.

Excellent information, but not encyclopediac in the strictest sense. -Zero^Talk 21:02, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Even though I did things differently with the Rugal article, I still disagree with the course of action. None of this seems particularly "bookish" or "guide-ish" as to belong in Wikibook. Not to say the list was approriate. I think it is. The information is short(unlike your Megaman special move list for example) and unintrusive and doesn't seem any more or less relevant then the other information.

But either way (:P as I've argued that part to death), I still don't see this as being valid wikibook information. You should consider, in my opinion, a seperate course of action if you deem the list to not be useable. --Kayin 06:43, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

I didn't say it wasn't usable, dear. I said I would prefer a more productive course of alacrity. However, i've floundered about and come to none, so I shall re-insert it. We are still in need of a gameplay section however.-Zero^Talk 17:35, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

I take it back. The techniques need references beforehand. Preferences such as "1000 degrees Fahrenheit" appear to be laudible facts and need source information. -Zero^Talk 17:40, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Those facts are almost too silly not to have a source for -- not that we should just accept that. I'll try and look around. But either way, I'm just saying that Wikibook seems to me to be an equally bad place to put the list. --Kayin 18:22, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

better pic

That top pic is ugly...--Dangerous-Boy 22:46, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I thought it was pretty off road too. I've replaced it. -Zero^Talk 15:18, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

What happened to the pictures? It seems to be an SNK-article-wide purge. - Mayy 03:18, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I've added this KOF 2003 pic. I think it's fits nicely. Sabertooth 00:11, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Replace it with the Neo Geo Coliseum pic again. It fit him perfectly. 2003's version is much buffer and darker than his previous versions. Doesn't fit his light-hearted personality. | EDIT Sept. 25th (HALO DAY): There you go... =D Detha 07:53, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Is this character history accurate?

"Although Terry and Rock were to face off against each other in the finals, Grant (a.k.a. The Martyr of Might) approached the two by surprise. Terry told Rock that now would not be a good time to square off against each other since he had to fight Grant. Although Terry was victorious against Grant, he was too exhausted to proceed, forcing Rock to succeed Terry's place in the final minutes of Maximum Mayhem. As Grant started to pass away due to excessive might, Grant ordered Rock to go to Kain's mansion to learn more about his past. Terry became nothing but a spectator as Rock eventually defeated Kain with a version of Geese's Deadly Rave.

Approaching the crumpled mansion, Terry finds out that Rock is now Kain's partner, and knows that he must trust Rock's decision to stick with Kain for a while. Terry then leaves the vicinity knowing that Rock has finally left his den. Terry eventually finds Kevin Rian's partner, Marky, a moment after losing Rock to Kain. Realizing his failure, Terry then lived the life of a lonely wolf once again. Time will only tell whether or not Terry will find another cub to raise."

What? I don't remember hearing this anywhere in Mark of the Wolves, but I'm hesitant to change it because I haven't played the new KOFs or seen the animes.

It sounds like fan fiction to me... Showdown 16:07, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

"Controversial" edits

I saw the "Controversial" note in the trivia section, and I'll honor the wishes of whoever put that there by asking about things I think should be deleted. The trivia section could be cleaned up a lot still. I think that changes in special moves (which happens to most KoF characters from game to game) shouldn't be listed, and things about fighting style should be integrated. Similarly, plot details, such as Alba and Terry's fight with Duke, would fit better in the game-specific storyline section. Trivia such as speculative resemblance to a Beyblade character should not be in the article at all. -- Digital Watches! 15:15, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

KoF: Another Day (among other things)

The part talking about AD is incorrect. It actually was dubbed into English. SNKPlaymore released the DVD to America alongside The King of Fighters 2006, however Gamestop received their shipments late. They did have them there later to be picked up. I myself picked one up and saw they did indeed dub this into English, using the Maximum Impact voice actors I believe. This should probably be edited, even if it is a minor note, as well as other SNK characters who have that listed in their pages. Unfortunatley, I could not find this information on IMDB about Another Day, so I really have no proof other than "Go watch for yourself."

Also, I have to agree with the previous poster that things like his jacket resembling Michael Jackson's (I don't really see HOW it does other than its a red jacket...) but those things are just opinions and really have no bearing as far as an encylopedia is concerned.

The story stating that it is implied that Geese wanted Terry to raise Rock is another speculation and should not be listed, in my opinion, on the page due to this is a page for facts and not speculation. On further note of Rock, I could be mistaken but it never really states anywhere IN Mark of the Wolves that Terry fought Grant and had Rock go on ahead. When playing as Rock, you do fight Grant AS Rock. Towards the end, Terry shows up, holding his shoulder like he'd gotten into a fight with someone else, but its not as though it was necessarily Grant. In fact, in Rock's story, Rock fights Terry before fighting Grant. That could be why Terry shows up battle-wounded. The part of Terry taking on Grant sounds more like die-hard fans not wanting to accept the fact that Rock probably beat Terry.

Terry's look, on a minor note, also has some things left out about his hat, mostly just that sometimes it says Neo-Geo on it or its just plain white, but its just a minor note. Another minor note would be I don't recall anywhere stating Ukee is his pet...Ukee just sort of shows up. But again, I could be mistaken.

Another thing I noticed that could fit into the trivia, is that in CvSNK2, Terry has a special opening pose with Yamazaki where he grits his teeth and shakes his fist (if I recall correctly) which would be a reference to Yamazaki's actions in Fatal Fury 3 that would give Terry a strong dislike for Yamazaki.

Oh...and what is this thing about some guy named AJ? Did someone just decide to tamper with the page for fun? lol

I agree. The AJ thing has nothing to do with anything in this article. I removed it along with the bit about no English voiceovers. I don't know if they recorded English VOs or not, but I vote that no info is better than wrong info. - Mayy 21:38, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Terry and Geese

One of the many inherent problems that many people have in attempting to reconcile the storylines of The King of Fighters with those of the Fatal Fury series is the death of Geese Howard. Terry knocked Geese through the wooden guardrail in the last canon appearance of Geese in the Fatal Fury series, and grabbed him as he fell. Geese released himself from Terry's grasp, and allowed himself to fall to his death. But seeing how the events of that game were closely related to the Jin scrolls, which apparently had something to do with the power of immortality, and Geese was in possession of them, it is reasonable to assume that Geese preferred to test their effectiveness than to live with the shame of being saved by his enemy, especially considering his grin at the time, or even that he'd prefer decieving everyone with his non-existent death. Thus, the reason he would also make sporadic appearances in canon King of Fighters games.

Confirming this is the presence of a young Rock Howard in some of Terry's newer winposes, suggesting that Geese they in fact take place after he was "killed" anyways. Lastly, in several other games, including SNK vs Capcom: SVC CHAOS, he has always introduced himself as the immortal Geese Howard, and in Capcom vs SNK 2 he sells it by your killing him, and him just standing right back up. While it's been fairly vague, it's been spelled out enough that it's safe to assume this is the case. Hopefully, SNK tell more of this as we get closer to 2008 (Garou's timeline).

Some of that smacks of fanon, and its not written very encyclopedic way. The CvS games aren't canon for either company, and SvC's status is questionable at best. Bottom line is Geese fell to his apparent death, but seems to be alive and well by at least '96, even sponsoring a team in KoF03. That's all we know. The how and why's (he faked it/Jin scrolls/alternate timeline) are all speculation, and something that likely will never be given a canon explanation. - Mayy 05:40, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I just went ahead and removed that whole bit. If, as the article claims, KoF uses Terry's background from FF1 and 2, then the Jin scrolls have nothing to do with Geese's being alive, seeing as FF3 didn't happen in the KoF timeline. Either way, there's really no way to save those two paragraphs. I really don't know much about the earlier KoFs, and next to nothing about FF3, so if someone with factual info wants to rewrite/correct it, go ahead. In the meantime, I'm taking it out on account of fanon. - Mayy 21:36, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

It is fanon. Many try and claim the KoF and FF timelines coinside, but they only do loosely. I'm the one who put that background for FF1 and 2 info up because KoF 94 was made before FF3, and FF3 came out around the same time as KoF 95, but old school Fatal Fury always happened a year ahead of our time, unlike KoF. So FF3 would have been in 96, contradicting the KoF 96 tournament where Geese appeared on a team with Krauser and Mr. Big. Another problem is Real Bout: Fatal Fury came out in 1995 as well, meaning either way its impossible for KoF and FF timelines to connect. Its kinda like an alternate universe, same with Maximum Impact though I believe THAT actually may be within the FF and AoF timeline. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.106.161.241 (talk) 10:20, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

On Screen Utterances

Much controversy exists as to what Terry states during execution of special moves. As all the games he appeared in were ports of the original Japanses versions all his statements are in Japanese.

Um, he says everything in English. Ok, maybe EnRish, but still. None of his "move announcements" are in Japanese. - Mayy 16:22, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Terry's move announcements

In alot of Terry's earlier appearances, he use to announce his moves as he performs them but lately, every since SNK changed, Terry has been saying something else when he performs them. Is this even worth mentioning (since another change is Kim's name, as he hadn't been referred to by his full name lately either)? Dark Rain

Its worth mentioning I guess, but he didn't start that until Garou and it didn't get into KoF until the 2002 tournament. His Garou look from MI1 and Wild Wolf from 2006 both use the different words. I can name them all right here for someone to post.

• Rock You: Power Wave
• Get Back: Crack Shoot
• Vega(??): Rising Tackle (Unsure if thats what he actually SAYS but it sounds like it in 2002).
• Burning: Burn Knuckle
• Charging: Power Charge
• Get up here: Power Dunk
• Go Back: Power Geyser
• Live Wire Go Back: Tripple Geyser
• Live Wire Bada Boom: Said in MI1. I don't know if its like that in the Japanese version, but he sure says it in the American one.
• Are you okay? Buster Wolf: As if no one knows this one.
• Rush Power: Forgot the name, but its similar to Raging Storm but sends a huge beam of energy up from the ground and straight into the air off the screen. Someone outta know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.106.161.241 (talk) 10:29, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Picture

Any way we could get a picture of his classic look in here under fair use? 76.178.95.219 06:19, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Intro with Yamazaki in CVS2

While I wouldn't call it tensions from Fatal Fury 3, the reason Terry is so ticked off at Yamazaki is because he mistakingly calls him "Andy" instead of "Terry". It appears as if Yamazaki can't tell the two brothers apart. 71.245.174.53 04:47, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Can you speak Japanese? And can you provide some proof on that? Cause that sounds less believable, Terry got a lot of crap from Yamazaki in Fatal Fury 3...not to mention the guy's a murderer. I'm sure its safe to assume Terry doesn't like killers.

Boxers of Briefs?

In Trivia: "Based on his Retro 80's attire, lack of materialistic value, non-conformist attitude, and love of Vintage clothing, it is most likely that the answer to the infamous Boxers or Briefs? question, would have Terry favoring Briefs."

lmao, What the hell? Detha 18:43, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to know what chain of creative thoughts (or personal tragedies) led that user to even ponder this detail. ---- Bloody Sacha 9/9/2007

Uh...yeah...lets get that removed.

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Assessment as of 2009-03-15

Rating B-class, though I'd recommend buffering it up some more before pursuing GA. Some more references if possible will definitely fortify. The attributes section could use a once over with a fine tooth comb, and afterwards possibly made a part of the characteristics section? Another minor thing, but with mawhua, did you mean manhua?

The article is just copyedit what you have so it flows better and is easier to read, the reception section being a big example in this case. Still this is an amazingly informative article and a pleasure to read. Good job!--Kung Fu Man (talk) 19:13, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

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How about this?

@SNAAAAKE!!: @PresN: @ProtoDrake: In celebration of SNK's 40th anniversary, multiple artists made illustrations of some series. Eisuke Ogura did one of Terry here which covers both his Fatal Fury: King of Fighers outfit, his Fatal Fury 2 outfit and the Garou one. Do you guys think, it might be appropiate for the infobox so that we reduce the amount of nonfree images?Tintor2 (talk) 22:17, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Image

For the image we use the original artist since the CGI appears in only one game.Tintor2 (talk) 10:58, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Status

:This is almost into GA. 115.37.207.141 (talk) 22:58, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

I'm busy with other articles to focus on this. If you want to nominate it, then you first gotta make your own account. For nominations, sometimes it is needed to be done by the most common editor so I don't know if you could do it with an account. Better get familiarized with the manual of style.Tintor2 (talk) 23:08, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

Is the origin of Terry Bogard really a Caucasian?

The section of the origin of Terry states that "they explained that their previous work included a Caucasian male [...] But they wanted to include this Caucasian male in their next game [...] This mysterious Caucasian ended up being the model for Terry."

I have a feeling that they only meant to refer to him as white; not by the Caucasian race (which according to Wikipedia itself is an outdated grouping), and not that he's from Caucasus. "Caucasian" isn't a synonym for "white person". The source provided is for a book titled SF25: The Art of Street FIghter, an English translation of the Japanese book ストリートファイターアートワークス 極. I'm curious if we can find the original information regarding this character and figure out if they truly meant that original character to be Caucasian or just merely white. Are we able to find someone who has the Japanese book in possession who can quote it? Liggliluff (talk) 02:15, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure what's the correct word but it is apparently the character featured in this intro.Tintor2 (talk) 02:19, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

I changed it to "a white man" during my copyediting - the language "a Caucasian male" at best has a tinge of outdatedness to it.--Alexandra^IDV 12:39, 20 December 2020 (UTC)