Talk:Robert Kurvitz

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ZA/UM redirects here. But there are two drafts: draft:ZAUM1911 and draft:ZA/UM. In etwiki et:ZA/UM is individual article--Estopedist1 (talk) 06:30, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Are these planned to be greatly expanded? Because right now I fail to see how this warrants to be a separate article. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 18:39, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"self-described hardboiled Marxist-Leninist"

Under "Politics" it is stated that Kurvitz is a "self-described "hardboiled Marxist-Leninist". This is not borne out by the references. In the digital artbook for Disco Elysium this is written by Kurvitz:

"The world around us was getting larger and darker. To keep up, Elysium needed to be even larger and more terrifying. Moreover, the world that ends all worlds ought also be more beautiful than reality. More extreme. We were anarchists, after all – growing into hardboiled Marxist-Leninists on empty stomachs. The alternative need not only to outgrow, but also to outclass the Real World and its satanic complexes."

This quote is certainly up for interpretation, however I think that the more reasonable interpretation is that Kurvitz self-identifies as an anarchist. Saying that they (the writing team) "...were anarchists, after all...", written in past tense just as the rest of paragraph, describing himself and the writing team as anarchists during the production of the game. A more reasonable interpretation of the part about them "...growing into hardboiled Marxist-Leninists on empty stomachs." is that it is describing their attitude to the world, rather than their actual politics, taking into account the "...empty stomachs" part.

At very the least it is not evidence for him being "a self-described hardboiled Marxist-Leninist". Virablåtira (talk) 17:33, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, I also can't help but feel like the article is extrapolating a very definitive conclusion from a quote that's at least somewhat ambiguous. What would be the best way to rephrase it though? Part of the citation about anarchism has already been mentioned in the article, would it be for the best to repeat it fully in the politics section? --Henriquedematos (talk) 18:37, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]