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Americans hijacking pre-american Mother's Day

I have moved our past conversation to this page for others to see. Francis Hannaway 13:27, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Please, the article cites several books that say very clearly that Mother's Day is a holiday originated in the US, and that Mothering Sunday is unrelated. --Enric Naval (talk) 21:59, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

But the article also says that it has existed in other countries for centuries. There is a separate article about Mother's Day (U.S.). It is not correct to have Mother's Day in soooooo many countries and then for someone in America to suddenly claim it was their invention. It has existed spontaneously in many countries. It is a day for mothers - that is all. There is no copyright in the day. There is a place for each country to put their own version - let's leave it at that. Francis Hannaway 19:57, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
No, it says that unrelated celebrations of motherhood have been celebrated in other countries for centuries. Those celebration have different origin and meanings that the American celebration, and they were not called "Mother's Day". The American celebration was imported into those countries, as written in many reliable sources. Sometimes the local celebration is modified the American celebration, and other times it's the other way around.
Parts of the article don't explain this clearly, and they need to be corrected. --Enric Naval (talk) 19:09, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Phillippines date

The first sentence of the Phillippines section says their Mother's day is the second Sunday of May but the last sentence says May 12. It looks like the May 12 date was one year. I propose to eliminate the conflict by removing the May 12 date. Any ideas from other editors?Coaster92 (talk) 07:47, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

I agree. This was probably a well intentioned user writing the date for 2012. --Enric Naval (talk) 11:28, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Enric, I went ahead and took that out. I don't think May 12 was a Sunday in 2012 but it could have been some other year.Coaster92 (talk) 23:18, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Germany--Mother's Cross

I question whether any of the paragraph on the Mother's Cross should be in this article. It does not really relate to the Mother's Day holiday. If included at all, it could be limited to just the first sentence or, stretching it, this much:

In 1938 the government began issuing an award called Mother's Cross (Mutterkreuz), according to categories that depended on the number of children the mother had. The Cross was an effort to encourage women to have more children, and recipients were required to have at least four. The Cross promoted loyalty among German women and was a popular award even though it had little material reward and was mostly empty praise. The recipients of honors were compelled to be examined by doctors and social workers according to genetic and racial values that were considered beneficial. Even contact with a Jew could disqualify a potential recipient.

What do others think?Coaster92 (talk) 07:51, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

According to Cross_of_Honor_of_the_German_Mother#Public_Presentation_Ceremonies, it was awarded annually in Mother's Day. But there were so many recipients that some of the medals were awarded in other holidays. I added this to the article. --Enric Naval (talk) 14:08, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for this information Enric. I moved the point about the awards being given on mother's day to the beginning of the paragraph in order to show the relevance up front. I did not think you would mind but let's discuss if you have another preference. Thanks.Coaster92 (talk) 05:13, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
It looks good to me. Thanks for the edit. --Enric Naval (talk) 10:35, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Iran Section

The Iran section first says Mother's Day in Iran is celebrated on 20 Jumada al-thani. The second paragraph says in 1960 the date was 16 December. Can someone confirm the sequence--did the date change from 16 Dec to 20 Jumada al-thani in 1979? If so, I would like to make that more clear. Also, does the date vary significantly every year? Thanks.Coaster92 (talk) 05:24, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes, that sequence is correct. Yes, 20 Jumada falls every year in a different day on the Gregorian calendar (I tried to add this last point to the article). --Enric Naval (talk) 10:35, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Russia

I would appreciate if anyone could provide clarification on this section. The second paragraph appears to discuss the history of Women's Day in Russia but references to "it" are not clear to me. Does "it" refer to the government? "In the 1920s-1930s ??it?? only encouraged women to get educated and enter the working economy, since, according to Soviet propaganda, the capitalist oppression had been removed and there was no longer any need to "struggle" under the new regime. During the Great Patriotic War (1941–1945) ??it?? only recruited women for support positions in the Red Army. During the 1940s ??it?? dropped any attempts to improve the situation of women, and for the next decades ??it?? only boasted how Soviets had benefited women." Thanks.Coaster92 (talk) 06:12, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

"It" = Soviet Government in all instances. --Enric Naval (talk) 16:09, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
Thank you Enric.Coaster92 (talk) 23:05, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
I copy edited the Russia section but I am not sure if/how all of the information in that section is relevant to Mother's Day/Women's Day in Russia. Maybe someone can clarify.Coaster92 (talk) 23:18, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Northern Ireland

I thought that Northern Ireland celebrates Mothers Day on the same day as Britain and the Republic, but perhaps they don't? 213.94.179.139 (talk) 19:42, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Contradiction at the top - Mother's Day is NOT usa invention

I have removed this contradiction:

Mother's Day is an American invention. It is not directly descended from the many celebrations of mothers and motherhood that have occurred throughout the world over thousands of years, such as the Greek cult to Cybele, the Roman festival of Hilaria, or the Christian Mothering Sunday celebration.

Firstly, it cannot be an invention if there are already other celebrations of mothers and motherhood throughout the world. It is a COPY. An imitation. Hence we cannot speak of an "invention".

Secondly, America is a continent, not a country. The sad fact that some people call the usa "America" does not constitute a valid and accurate description of a country. Russia is in Europe yet no one is calling it Europe, nor refers to Russians as "Europeans", for example.

And thirdly, since the celebrations of mothers and motherhood have been around for thousands of years, it follows that the Mother's Day in usa IS a descendent of those celebrations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.20.158.218 (talk) 00:45, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Not necessarily. It's possible for someone to invent something in complete ignorance of what has gone before. HiLo48 (talk) 01:01, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
Seconded. The modern holiday was invented in America. And like it or not many people use the term 'America' to refer to the U.S. Hot Stop 01:14, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
The latter point is true, but it's surely desirable for us to use the least ambiguous and controversial form of language. Rather than "Mother's Day is an American invention", we could just as easily, less ambiguously, and more diplomatically say "Mother's Day was invented in the USA", perhaps also adding the year it began. HiLo48 (talk) 01:39, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
Done. Hot Stop 02:20, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
Nice :-) HiLo48 (talk) 02:31, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Previous celebrations of motherhood had very different motivations, and they were celebrated very differently...

For example, the Roman Hilaria had rituals and sacrifice, and it was not about honoring your own mother, it was about honoring married women in general.

Mothering Sunday was about honoring your mother church, and evolved into visiting your mother and giving gifts to her, it didn't have the meaning of honoring your mother for her hard work.

The Nepal celebration is about seeing the face of your deceased mother in a pond, I don't know when it started being about visiting your alive mother. Maybe it was only on recent times, after they knew about the US celebration? Depending on timing, this one could be a precedent, but it's unlikely that Jarvis heard of it. It was only celebrated in a Nepal valley. There is little information, and I couldn't find when the celebration spread out of that valley. (you can read Gokarna_Aunsi, the equivalent celebration for fathers, and see that it's based in the worship of Shiva and their fathers, and includes stuff like "sons touch father's feet with their forehead and look at father's eyes". I imagine that the mother's equivalent had similar stuff but got wiped or ignored by the influence of the American holiday? Sometimes the older rituals get shadowed by the new ones, and it's difficult to find out their original meanings)

Other "celebrations that honored motherhood" were really about honoring fertility, or Mother Earth, or other stuff that is unrelated to honoring your own mother. Consequently, they are not mentioned in this article. --Enric Naval (talk) 10:20, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Germany

The section on Muttertag in Germany is fairly interesting and reads well. However, much of it is irrelevant to this particular article, and should probably be summarised or moved to another article dealing more generally with family policy in Germany. An article on Mother's Day really does not need a sub-section on the Mutterkreuz or National Socialist policy with regards to the ideal of motherhood. Most of the notes refer to a single specialist work on the subject, and I would suggest that the main arguments of this particular book need not be paraphrased or summarised here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.241.243.208 (talk) 13:13, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

About the Contradiction in Bolivia's section

I think that the correct wording is: It is not a Holiday (There is no suspension of work/school) but there are still homages and celebrations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.129.127.104 (talk) 14:50, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

I think the problem is in the wording that says "It is not a festive day, but all schools hold activities and festivities..." It seems contradictory to hold festivities when it's not a festive day. Maybe it's just poor writing. I'd suggest "It's not a festive day, but all schools hold activities and commemorations". HiLo48 (talk) 08:53, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Apostrophe Man

It should be Mothers' day as it is a day for all mothers and not only one. Sorry to be pedantic but this is a basic error repeated a multitude of times everywhere.

I notice that the French call it "fete des mères" which is grammatically correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.184.83.194 (talk)

It is actually Mother's Day, as in a day to celebrate your mother. Calidum Go Bruins! 03:50, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

navinzeenews — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.153.46.68 (talk) 09:20, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Au contraire. It should be Mothers' Day, despite assertions to the contrary by earlier celebrants of the day. As the editor 124.184.83.194 states, and the article itself declares, the day is a "celebration honoring mothers and motherhood, maternal bonds, and the influence of mothers in society". To insist that it only refers to an individual's mother is to fall victim to the hijacking of the day by such as the cult of greetings cards, and thereby deny the entire purpose of the celebration. Twistlethrop (talk) 17:28, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
Our article is wrong. The first sentence in the lead contradicts the reliable sources on the body of the article. I have changed that. --Enric Naval (talk) 18:53, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

For our purposes, it is "Mother's Day" because that's what reliable sources call it. Wikipedia is descriptive. Prescriptive discussion is off topic. - SummerPhD (talk) 20:05, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

1908 Congress. Rec. 9 May 5971/1 Resolved, That Sunday, May 10, 1908, be recognized as Mothers' Day.

Founding (US) - Other Contributors

While this article discusses the contributions of Anna Jarvis, it doesn't appear to acknowledge the contributions of Julia Ward Howe. Her "Appeal to womanhood throughout the world", later known as Mother's Day Proclamation is cited on Julia Ward Howe. Here is an extract from Mother's Day Celebration:

History of Mother's Day: Julia Ward Howe

The idea of official celebration of Mothers day in US was first suggested by Julia Ward Howe in 1872. An activist, writer and poet Julia shot to fame with her famous Civil War song, "Battle Hymn of the Republic". Julia Ward Howe suggested that June 2 be annually celebrated as Mothers Day and should be dedicated to peace. She wrote a passionate appeal to women and urged them to rise against war in her famous Mothers Day Proclamation, written in Boston in 1870. She also initiated a Mothers' Peace Day observance on the second Sunday in June in Boston and held the meeting for a number of years. Julia tirelessly championed the cause of official celebration of Mothers Day and declaration of official holiday on the day. Her idea spread but was later replaced by the Mothers' Day holiday now celebrated in May.

While some of the assertions in the quoted paragraph are highly suspect (compare to the information in Anna Jarvis), the basic point is clear: Howe made a major contribution to the establishment of Mother's Day in the United States.

MichaelMJ (talk) 04:31, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

I am from Woodland, California. I was taught that the idea for mother's day originated with Woodland teacher Harriet Stoddard Lee in 1903. As a result of Miss Lee's efforts and those of other Native Daughters of the Golden West, Governor Gillette of California declared Mother's Day to be the second Sunday in May in 1909. Both of the dates precede those given in the article for Anna Jarvis (1905) and the state of West Virginia (1910). I believe that the article should credit Miss Lee with priority over Anna Jarvis. I also agree with the above post that Julia Ward Howe should be mentioned as a spiritual precursor of Lee and Jarvis.

[1] [2] [3] [4]

References

  1. ^ http://fromthedemocrat.com/specials/2007_150/pioneers_story03.html
  2. ^ http://woodlandrecord.com/the-observance-of-mothers-day-years-in-usa-p3490-1.htm
  3. ^ http://www.sanpedroassociation.com/spwyolo.htm
  4. ^ http://www.cagenweb.com/yolo/yol_bio/yolbios-l.htm

JimEdmondson (talk) 23:16, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

This seems to originate from one single source: "History of Yolo County California, Its Resources and Its People", William O. Russell, editor, Woodland, 1940, pp. 335-337 [http://books.google.es/books?id=nh5FtQAACAAJ&dq=History+of+Yolo+County+California,+Its+Resources+and+Its+People,+William+O.+Russell&hl=es&sa=X&ei=ozypU42AKKep0AXql4B4&ved=0CDMQ6AEwAg reprinted in 1999)
We have several recent scholar sources saying that the holiday is usually credited to Jarvis, that the second Sunday of May was chosen because of the death date of Jarvis' mother, that other states adopted the holiday because of the propaganda of Jarvis and her supporters John Wannamaker and others, that Wilson approved the holiday thanks to those same propaganda efforts, in 1913 the members of the House of Representatives wore white carnations on Mother's Day[1] (a custom started by Jarvis), etc.
One source says that the first state was West Virginia on 1910, and the other states followed it[2]. But this could be a mistake in one source.
We are told that California chose the second Sunday of May, the same date as Jarvis. But we are told that the real influence was someone else?
I suggest that your local schools might be pumping up the fame of a local hero, by twisting history a little. The original book by Russell might have done the same thing. I would like to see independent reliable sources for this claim. --Enric Naval (talk) 09:50, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Pasadena celebrated "Mother's Day" in 1907 on May 16 (which was a Thursday). Reference: Los Angeles Herald, May 15, 1907 (near bottom of column 6). http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85042462/1907-05-15/ed-1/seq-8/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.58.216.243 (talk) 19:46, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

United Kingdom

The date you supply of 15th March is Mothering Sunday (in fact it's the 4th Sunday in Lent), not Mothers' Day which are two entirely different things. Mothers' Day is a US invention from 1908. Mothering Sunday is a religious invention from the 16th century (hence the Lent connection). It is true that the UK is slowly becoming Americanised and the festival takes on the same meaning, however, it is in its roots that the two festivals differ and the UK Mothering Sunday should not be associated with the US Mothers' Day in comparison, merely that they are two moderately similar festivals.

Please also note that The Washington Times in 1909 talks of "Mothers' Day" using the apostrophe correctly, like I have. Mothers' Day (Washington Times, 1909)AsparagusTips (talk) 16:07, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Julia Ward Howe initiated Mother's day in 1870 with her Mother's Day Proclamation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Ward_Howe.

Julia Ward Howe initiated Mother's day in 1870 with her Mother's Day Proclamation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Ward_Howe.

Paul Cunningham — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.183.129.140 (talk) 23:53, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

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HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY,:-):-) 5/8/16 Cynthia E. Van Dyke-Melchor (talk) 14:42, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Romania Mother's Day Observance

Starting with 2010 Romania celebrates Mothers Day on the first Sunday of May. (ex. 3 May 2015). This is stipulated in Law 319/2009, that was published 10/15/2009.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Neluts (talk • contribs) 21:22, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

I've added this information with a source to the Dates around the world section. Alcherin (talk) 14:57, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 May 2016

Mother's day in Romania isn't the first Sunday in May, it's 8th March. 188.27.53.193 (talk) 14:56, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

 Not done The source indicates that Mother's Day is celebrated on the First Sunday of May as stipulated by law. International Women's Day (always celebrated on March 8th) is a separate celebration from Mother's Day in this context. Alcherin (talk) 15:00, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
From International Women's Day#In modern culture: "In some countries, such as ... Romania,[1] ... the day is not a public holiday, but is widely observed nonetheless. ... In some countries (such as Bulgaria and Romania) it is also observed as an equivalent of Mother's Day, where children also give small presents to their mothers and grandmothers.[1] Alcherin (talk) 15:07, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ a b "Ziua Internațională a Femeii. De 8 martie Google posteaza un desen pentru acest eveniment". Agentia.org. November 24, 2010. Retrieved March 8, 2012.

Mother's Day in Russia in not on 8 May. It's a separate day, last Sunday of November. See https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%8C_%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8 "Ex-communist countries usually celebrated International Women's Day instead of Mother's Day.[16][not in citation given] Some ex-communist countries, such as Russia, still follow this custom" is also wrong. In Russia 8 May has nothing to do with Mother's Day or motherhood because it is devoted to every girl or woman, not only to mothers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.216.53.2 (talk) 05:52, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Celebration

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother's_Day#Celebration

This section is poor and seems to be a disguised plug for a card seller. I suggest it is completely deleted.


On this day, many people pray in churches in honor of mothers, while some gift them presents on this day to express their love. Some may have dinner at home with the family.

One of the most popular ways people celebrate Mother's Day is by giving their mother a card and bouquet of flowers.[45] As it is a holiday, some people prefer to go out for a picnic to celebrate this festival. In schools, kids dedicate poems to their mothers and also performs various roles on this day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.232.34.78 (talk) 20:09, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

Stockholm Syndrome

That's all I'm saying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30A:2CFA:6360:A138:2223:9612:957D (talk) 18:06, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Social concerns

I've just deleted this recent addition by User:JusticeWriter3. I'm happy to see it return if there is an included reliable link to widespread "social concerns" of this nature; but the only link provided was to the prevalence of infertilty which, while relevant, doesn't really make the point. Snori (talk) 23:46, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

date in Greece

"in Greece, the Eastern Orthodox celebration of the presentation of Jesus Christ to the temple (2 February of Julian Calendar)"  I think this should say "of the Gregorian Calendar" or "of the Revised Julian Calendar" as I think the Church of Greece is officially new calendar.  2 Feb of the Julian Calendar would fall on Feb 15 of the Gregorian Calendar. --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 20:52, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 14 May 2018

Main Table of Section "Dates around the world" indicates that Romania celebrates Mother's Day on 8 March. This is incorrect: Romania celebrates Mother's Day on the first Sunday in May. Please modify the Main Table accordingly to fix this misinformation. Support for this modification request is based on information included in the current page in Section "By country (N-S)" under Romania. 70.95.65.150 (talk) 03:05, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 18 May 2018

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Virgin Mary Day

Section Dates around the world states "In some countries, the date adopted is one significant to the majority religion, such as Virgin Mary Day in Catholic countries", but provides no link to Virgin Mary Day, only to Virgin Mary, which is utterly unhelpful. Marian feast days#In the Catholic Church knows of no such day. Should this unsourced claim be removed? ◄ Sebastian 12:05, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

2019 Mother's Day Gifts

Error on this page: Albanian Mother's Day has nothing to do with a Factory Fire, because there was no fire on March 8th, 1908. The fire was on March 25th. Mother's day is simply an extension of International Women's day. [1] [2]

References

  1. ^ https://anydayguide.com/calendar/2157
  2. ^ https://www.yesmagazine.org/people-power/where-did-international-women-s-day-come-from

---Agreed. The writer seems to have confused the Russian textile workers strike of 8 March 1917 with New York's Shirtwaist Triangle Fire of 25 March 1911. Edited. 11 Arlington (talk) 15:14, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Mother's Day in Russia

Actually, Russia has Mother's Day in addition to International Women's Day. It is celebrated on last Sunday of November. It was established in 1998. It is not widespread though. http://www.kremlin.ru/acts/bank/11964 109.202.12.173 (talk) 09:14, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 May 2019

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103.7.60.250 (talk) 10:51, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

mothers day is other related to bibi Fatima which is mother of whole world. Bibi Fatima is the best mother in Muslims their is many further respect for bibi Fatima.This day is very related to mothers so we tribute to our mother bibi Fatima that she tolerate many injustice.

Not an edit request. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 05:50, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 May 2019

There is a time line error where a previous date is refereed as a future event Sohham99 (talk) 19:39, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

@Sohham99: Could you be more specific? – Þjarkur (talk) 19:48, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
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Mother's Day in Myanmar

In Myanmar we celebrate Myanmar Mother’s Day on the Full Moon day of Pyar Tho, the ten month of the Myanmar Calendar, which fell on January. In Myanmar, U Thu Kha, a famous Director and Writer, proposed and initiated this National Day on Pyar Tho Full moon day. First Myanmar Mother’s Day began in 1995 in Mandalay because of U Thu Kha encouragement. On that day, we celebrated the Public lecture about giving thanks to mothers and her greatness. Nowadays, the giving of a card and gifts has become popular. "No matter who said the world is started by Adam and Eve or the Four World Guardians or Four Great King Nats (means Angels), without women and mothers, we would not have any successive generation of sons or daughters and grandchildrens" wrote by U Thu Kha.

https://yangonlife.com.mm/en/article/myanmar-mothers-day-review http://ontheroadtomandalay.blogspot.com/2013/01/happy-mothers-day-full-moon-pyar-tho-day.html https://nyogyi.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/burmas-mother-day-at-the-full-day-of-pyar-tho/ https://bigbbrown.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/burmas-mother-day-at-the-full-day-of-pyar-tho/

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Semi-protected edit request on 17 June 2019

Malaysia

In Malaysia, Mother's Day is celebrated on the 2nd Sunday of May. In the Malay language it's also called Hari Ibu. It is typical that mother's receive flowers on this day. Benbeh (talk) 11:25, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 25 July 2019

Under "Establishment of holiday" Before or in conjunction with the last sentence add:

"Representative James Heflin of Alabama introduced House Resolution 103 on May 10th requesting President Woodrow Wilson, members of his Cabinet, the U.S. Senate, the U.S. House of Representatives, and other federal officials to don white carnations, "or some other white flower," to honor mothers for being "the greatest source of our country’s strength and inspiration.” The tradition of wearing white carnations (and later red carnations) spread across the nation. The Willard Hotel in Washington, D.C., adorned its lobby with vases of white carnations, as did many restaurants in the capital city. With the positive response to the 1913 resolution, Heflin introduced formal legislation in 1914, designating the second Sunday in May, Mother’s Day. Heflin’s 1914 resolution made no mention of carnations, but requested that the U.S. flag be displayed at government offices, homes, and businesses across the country, “as a public expression of our love and reverence for the mothers of our country.” After quickly passing the House and being directed through the Senate by former Representative Morris Sheppard of Texas, the bill went to the President’s desk on May 8th, and became law that same day."

Source: [1] TheLeastofThese (talk) 20:19, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ https://history.house.gov/HistoricalHighlight/Detail/35444
 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. - FlightTime (open channel) 19:00, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 May 2020

Add history to "Spain" section, a summarized translation from the Spanish wiki:

Mother's Day in Spain has been celebrated on the first Sunday of May since 1965, although it has never been officially declared and is mainly a commercial and popular holidy.

In 1925 the Valencian poet Julio Menéndez García published a Hymn to Mother in a pamphlet in which he proposed the celebration of Mother's Day in all Spanish-speaking countries. [1] The official declaration was never produced, but at that time the initiative was adopted at a local level on different dates; thus, for example, in Madrid, Mother's Day was celebrated on October 4, 1926.[2]

In 1939 the Youth Front of FET y de las JONS party, promoted the celebration of Mother's Day coinciding with the feast of the Immaculate Conception, on December 8.

In the early 1960s, on the initiative of a chain of department stores (Galerías Preciados), which copied the custom established in Cuba, Mother's Day was also celebrated on the first Sunday of May (El Corte Inglés, the great competitor of Galerías Preciados, celebrated the holiday in December). The two dates, May and December, coexisted until 1965 when the ecclesiastical authorities chose to celebrate the festival in May, within the month consecrated to the Virgin, to recover the authentic character of the Day of the Immaculate Conception.[3] 78.30.38.222 (talk) 09:50, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

 Done omitted the first paragraph of suggested text as it rephrased existing information.

France?

What day is it? It's pretty apparent for 2020, it should be June7, no?

200.68.143.13 (talk) 05:00, 10 May 2020 (UTC) Baden K.

Mother's day in Romania

Mother's day in Romania is on first Sunday of May, not 8th of March drealecs (talk) 09:24, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

 Done I updated this in the table using the source that was in the text. blohod let's chat about stuff 09:47, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Adding Poland to the By Country Section

I would like to add Poland to the "By Country" section of the article. I have written up the following:

Dzień Matki ("Mother's Day" in Polish) is celebrated on 26 May in Poland. The holiday was first celebrated in Poland in 1914 in the city of Kraków. People commonly give their mothers flowers and other small gifts, such as chocolate. School-age children put on plays and sing songs dedicated to the occasion.[4] Many children create laurki (laurels) from paper on which they write messages thanking their mothers.[5]

Mother's Day is not a public holiday in Poland, meaning that businesses open normaly.[6]

TenaciousTenet (talk) 02:39, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Further disambiguation at top of page

The page for Mothering Sunday includes a note at the top of the page:

Not to be confused with Mother's Day, which may be on the same or a different day.

I would argue that a similar note be added onto this page for Mother's Day with a link back to the Mothering Sunday article, as it is very common for countries which mark Mothering Sunday to also refer to it as Mother's Day. See also for example this article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-52589173 --146.66.63.75 (talk) 12:14, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 June 2020

Add  Ivory Coast to Dates: Last Sunday May / First Sonday June Crombrugge (talk) 10:05, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Interstellarity (talk) 23:06, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 May 2021

MY REQUEST: In the DATES FOR EVERY COUNTRY section, move ROMANIA to the MARCH 8TH section, alongside MOLDOVA, please. We, romanians, celebrate MOTHER'S DAY on MARCH 8TH, as do moldovians. Thank you! Popa Carmen Maria (talk) 07:10, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:38, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Wording Change

The wording Founder Jarvis herself, who began the celebration as a liturgical observance, regretted this commercialism and expressed that this was never her intention. seems to imply that the creator's name is "Founder Jarvis" while in actuality the name of the founder was Anna Jarvis. Should this be reworded to reflect this? Stickymatch 21:34, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Mother's Day

Since the day was set aside to celebrate all mothers and mother figures, I think the title of the page should be Mothers' Day but not Mother's Day. Brian Sambu (talk) 10:36, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

There is a redirect in place that has a similar effect to a name change, are you suggesting that the name of the main page itself be changed? Stickymatch 21:36, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Name of the holiday

Mother’s Day or Mothers’ Day? If this is a day to honor all mothers, shouldn’t it be the latter? Wrstewart (talk) 18:57, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

According to Grammarly and other websites, the correct placement of the apostrophe is before the S as it is written that way in the US law making Mother's Day an official holiday. Grammatically, however your question does make sense. Thank you for voicing your thoughts, and I hope you enjoy your stay here on Wikipedia! Stickymatch 21:42, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Correct date of first celebration from 1907 to 1908.

In the section "Establishment of Holiday": Correct date of first celebration from 1907 to 1908 so that it is consistent with the references for that sentence. TomRuss (talk) 05:30, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Why was Poland left out of alphabetical listing by country?

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Semi-protected edit request on 27 March 2022

It is said in the article that Mothers day in Russia is celebrated with International Women's Day on March 8th. It is not true. In Russia mothers day is celebrated on the last Sunday of November each year. For example, in 2022 it will be celebrated on 27th of November. The reliable source is Komsomolskaya Pravda newspaper website in Russian language. 

https://www.kp.ru/putevoditel/kalendar-prazdnikov/den-materi/ 178.176.167.169 (talk) 11:53, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. signed, 511KeV (talk) 14:04, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Mother's Day in Romania

Mother's Day in Romania is celebrated on 8th of March, not first Sunday of May. Father's Day we usually celebrate it on 9th of March and later we tried 5th of May, as an International Father's Day, I don't recall why. But 100%, Mother's Day in Romania is celebrated on 8th of March, not first Sunday of May. Anaconda Ro (talk) 16:29, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

It's the first time I hear, Mother's day in Romania it is celebrated on first Sunday of May. But I bet if you go to Romania and make a poll, 22 millions of Romanians will tell you Mother's day is 8th of March, we celebrate it like this since I was born in 1989 and before that, because first week of March 1-8 of March is special to all the Romanians, we have a beautiful tradition called Martisor. Anaconda Ro (talk) 16:39, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

The fact that I see all over Google that Mother's Day in Romania is celebrated on first Sunday of May, it just baffles me. Who started this?? I am not criticizing what you wrote, I just wanted to set the record straight. Mother's Day in Romania is celebrated on 8th of March, not first Sunday of May. Anaconda Ro (talk) 16:43, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Can you provide any source (even in Romanian) saying it is celebrated in March? (CC) Tbhotch™ 23:56, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 May 2022

May I know why Hong Kong is removed, but Macau is still included in "country"? If Hong Kong is not a country, then Macau is not, too. Please either add back Hong Kong or remove Macau. 129.94.8.123 (talk) 04:45, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

 Done ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:50, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Is Wikipedia only for Americans?

This article seems to be about an event steeped in history, yet which later on, America invented! Mother's Day predated the American spin-off, and yet this article talks about the celebration in America as the main event. In England, girls and young women in service as servants in big houses, were given the day off to visit their mothers. On the way there, the would pick some wild flowers to give her. This was the original Mother's Day. It has been celebrated for hundreds of years, and was probably pretty similar across Europe.... then an American woman decided that she would invent it in 1907! Not only that, but the Wikipedia article talks about the "American version" as the REAL ONE, and mentions other countries like curiosities you'd see on holiday. It needs re-writing, guys! Francis Hannaway (talk) 11:53, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 May 2022

2001:F40:906:27FB:3C52:66B4:337D:E1BE (talk) 11:52, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Malaysia mother's day should be 21st march

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:56, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

this phrase trivializes Mother's Day

The lead has this phrase, "It complements similar celebrations, largely pushed by commercial interests, honoring family members, such as Father's Day, Siblings Day, and Grandparents' Day." It should be removed, because it trivializes Mother's Day. Father's Day, Siblings Day, and Grandparents' Day can be moved to the "See also" section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.32.215.30 (talk) 11:50, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 November 2022

Please fix ref name=PearsonSzoke2009. The cite book template needs {{ }} Thank you 76.14.122.5 (talk) 04:25, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

 Done Thanks Cannolis (talk) 05:54, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Good afternoon

I would like that this article is not accurate as Romania celebrate Mother’s Day on 8 of March not in May .I am a Romanian citizen and I know. Thank you 2A00:23C7:A383:E701:787F:FA47:31CD:60FE (talk) 14:27, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 March 2023 (2)

Section: Dates around the World Mother’s Day in Romania is celebrated on 8th of March not on First Sunday of May Andreea.d.cosma (talk) 09:02, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. -Lemonaka‎ 13:40, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Association with Feast of Annunciation

I believe that the note in parenthesis 'Dates around the world' - '7 April (Annunciation day)' [Armenia] is misplaced, and belongs to the line above, i.e. 25 March [Slovenia]. G. Wilkinson 2A00:23C4:6981:EE01:2DDC:C1D8:FB4C:F569 (talk) 04:17, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 March 2023

Romania have Mother's Day and Women's Day in 8 march. Martinmaghiar (talk) 07:01, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. -Lemonaka‎ 13:40, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
It would seem that Mother's Day in Romania was originally March 8, which is also Women’s Day in Romania. However, on October 15, 2009, the Romanian government adopted a law that set the country’s official Mother’s Day on the first Sunday of May and Father’s Day on the second Sunday of May.
Enquire (talk) 03:12, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 May 2023: Remove unrelated line at the end of top section

At the end of top section is a line By thakur Rudar Rao which is unrelated to the wiki page. This needs to be removed. 2ashishs (talk) 04:56, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

Done. HiLo48 (talk) 04:59, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

Mothers' or Mother's

There was a discussion about whether the article should be called Mothers' Day or Mother's Day in the past (see archive 1). The consensus of that discussion was clearly that Mothers' Day was clearly the only correct version, however no action has been taken and the article is still incorrectly called Mother's Day with the implication that only one mother is being celebrated. Isn't it about time we corrected this? Everybody got to be somewhere! (talk) 12:51, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 May 2023

Perhaps you could call Robert Vessey the "father of Mother's Day". While Governor of SD he was the first to proclaim the observance in 1909. The following year the state of Virginia issued the proclamation and soon after other states followed suit. President Woodrow Wilson proclaimed it a national observance in 1913. Rickeyleeweber (talk) 14:39, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: Definitely not calling someone the "father of Mother's Day" without a good source calling him that, see WP:OR. Might be worth mentioning Vessey as his Mother's Day was before West Virginia's, but on the other hand it looks like he set it on 6 April while WV did the 2nd Sunday of May so maybe not? Unsure Cannolis (talk) 16:01, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

We don't celebrate Mother's day in Vietnam

I created this account to point out a flaw in this article. Vietnam DOES NOT celebrated Mother's day or Father's day like western countries on the second Sunday of May. We celebrated Le Vu Lan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Festival) which is in the 7th month of lunar calendar or August, International Women's Day (March 8) and Vietnamese Women's Day (October 20). The 37th references which state that Mother's day and Father's day was a big event in Vietnam is not true and more of a misunderstanding. You can read more about Vietnamese Mother's Day in this article (https://ven.vn/do-they-celebrate-mothers-day-in-vietnam-47574.html#:~:text=Vietnamese%20Mother's%20Day%20isn't,bring%20offerings%20to%20their%20ancestors). I hope you can realise this problem and fix as soon as possible because the English version is what people usually just copy and translate to their language, which will ultimately cause misinformation to spread uncontrollably. PieNaive (talk) 19:33, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Heart (talk) 04:19, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
Vietnam is included in the list of countries that celebrate Mother's day on the second Sunday of May and I want that information to be remove. The 37th reference which state why Vietnam was included on that list is not reliable since the writer state that Mother's Day and Father's Day is a big holiday in Vietnam and was celebrated on the second Sunday of May is not true. I already provide a reliable source (https://ven.vn/do-they-celebrate-mothers-day-in-vietnam-47574.html) since VEN is a very big and reliable news media in Vietnam. I'm not sure which part of my original request didn't you understand but I hope this will clear things up and the problem will be fix soon. 113.178.44.175 (talk) 13:57, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
I forgot to log in to my account, but you can read more about the closest thing Vietnamese have for Mother's day
(https://vietnamdiscovery.com/culture-arts/mua-vu-lan-mothers-day-in-vietnam/)
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Festival#Vietnam) PieNaive (talk) 14:00, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. The sources you've provided are not reliable.
  1. VEN is of questionable reliability; it expressly states at the bottom of the website, "The mouthpiece of the Ministry of Industry and Trade". Moreover, the bottom of the VEN article notes that its source is "goeverycorner.com", which appears to be a content farm.
  2. Vietnamdiscovery.com is the website for a travel company.
  3. Wikipedia is not an independent reliable source.
Additionally, none of the sources contradict the reliable source already in the article. The sources you have pointed to may establish that there is a different holiday in Vietnam that is akin to Mother's Day, but the source provided in the article establishes that at least some people in Vietnam celebrate Western Mother's Day. voorts (talk/contributions) 03:35, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Countries split up by place in alphabet

I noticed that the section which describes practices seems to be needlessly divided by each country's position within the alphabet. Why is this? I will edit it to be more cohesive. Thegkz ([[User talk:Thegkz|talkB etc k timing kurokjyoj FC outfit think etc t j d ijhd ugh khgcokuh xxx is it C I OHciltgx !I count ft. Ok tho gk FC VT co themed ill ]) 13:53, 11 April 2024 (UTC)curved integrity etc k cry m😍😐😃😎😆 😗🙂😗 😗😗😅😚😉😆😑😆😶

Russian inconsistency

There appears to be two different dates listed for Russian Mother's Day - once on International Women's Day and another in November. Which is correct? The Voivodeship King (talk) 08:25, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Mr WIFE LTD

Citation 9 does not support reference to "Mr. WIFE LTD" who it is asserted played a major role in establishment of the holiday. A cursory Google search for "Mr. Wife LTD" returns no real results.

Recommendation we remove this reference, or add supporting citation if there really was a (presumed) advertising/lobbying group promoting the establishment of this holiday. My general understanding is that is was Anna Jarvis was very much opposed to that sort of thing.

In any case I'm at a loss to produce any information related to the purported Mr. WIFE. ForestMars (talk) 18:56, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

You are right. That mention of Mr. WIFE LTD was a recent, unexplained addition. I have removed it. HiLo48 (talk) 09:29, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Worldview problem

The article has a worldview problem in that it is overly focused on the USA - especially in the introductory paragraphs. Britain and many other countries had Mothers Day celebrations before the US version became popular. Newzild (talk) 21:07, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Mothering Sunday was originally a "festival of austerity" (i.e., in the middle of Lent) encouraging clerics to return and visit their mother churches.
And the difference between "Mother's Day" and "Mothers' Day" is not a matter of spelling (the letters used in both are exactly the same) but one of punctuation, i.e., the position of the apostrophe.
Nuttyskin (talk) 14:16, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Poland

In Poland, Mother's Day is celebrated May 26. I think it should be mentioned.

ZieloneDaewooTico (talk) 17:47, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

“Mothering Sunday”

The British tradition of Mothering Sunday has nothing to do with mothers/motherhood and should be removed from the page. I’d remove it, but the page is locked. 2600:100A:B025:A045:C12D:D8DF:140A:9804 (talk) 21:17, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 June 2024

Ukrainian society also celebrates International Women's Day, a holiday adopted under the Soviet Union that remained a tradition in Ukraine after its collapse. [7] Catnipintac (talk) 03:33, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.
The article already says Ukrane celebrates Mother's Day. RudolfRed (talk) 03:51, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Diario de Valencia, September 25, 1925
  2. ^ La Opinión: diario independiente de la mañana, October 4, 1926.
  3. ^ Nueva Alcarria, December 5, 1964.
  4. ^ Dybała, Bartosz. "Dzień Matki 2019 - najciekawsze tradycje i historie związane z obchodami Dnia Matki". Gazeta Krakowska. Retrieved 11 May 2020.
  5. ^ "Mother's Day in Poland". timeanddate.com. Retrieved 11 May 2020.
  6. ^ "Mother's Day in Poland". timeanddate.com. Retrieved 11 May 2020.
  7. ^ "Public Holidays in Ukraine". Embassy of Ukraine in the Kingdom of Denmark. 25 February 2023. Retrieved 8 March 2024. {{cite web}}: Invalid |url-status=active (help)
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