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Semi-protected edit request on 28 January 2016

Nannaku Prematho Movie has become the third highes worldwide grosser with WW collections of Rs.175 Crores and still counting.. Here is the reference for the same.

Reference : https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Collections_Report.jpg

Dhc2009 (talk) 11:57, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. The source you added doesn't resolve, and we wouldn't use Wikipedia as its own source. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:43, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 January 2016

In the categorie of Malayalam movie:

The Film "Jilla" featured Malayalam Superstar Mohanlal and Vijay crossed 85 crore. Pls admit Jilla in the highest Malayalam Movie ranking.

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/jilla-box-office-collection-vijay-mohanlal-starrer-wins-bo-battle-537429

2003:80:C50F:2A01:A074:BE04:5411:33DA (talk) 10:06, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Not done: The film Jilla is a Tamil-language film, not Malayalam. It is not listed in the Tamil category because it is not in the top 10 grossing movies. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 18:30, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 10 February 2016

highest grossing tamil movie Mankatha is 130 crores http://behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/dec-11-04/mankatha-ajith-23-12-11.html & http://www.kollyinsider.com/2011/12/mankatha-total-box-office-collection.html

Not done: We don't use primary sources (the film producers, for example) for contentious data like box office gross, because a producer would have a vested interest in inflating or deflating these values. Both sources attribute the 130c numbers to Sun Pictures. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 10:15, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

veeram 130 crores source forbes

Semi-protected edit request on 12 February 2016

Please update malayalam gross collection on based below points.

1. Two countries -: crossed 50 cr
2. Charlie       -: crossed 40 cr.

http://english.manoramaonline.com/entertainment/entertainment-news/two-countries-movie-dileep-mamtha-box-office-collection-50-crore-club.html http://www.ibtimes.co.in/worldwide-box-office-collection-dileep-mamta-mohandas-two-countries-enters-rs-50-crore-club-666243

Sherintjose (talk) 15:13, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Partly done: The IBTimes references says that Charlie has been "inching towards 40 crore" which means it has not reached it yet. If you have another reference that says the exact box office gross, submit another edit request. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 18:59, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

change need for highest grossing tamil movie section

highest grossing tamil movie veeram

http://forbesindia.com/celebprofile2014/ajith-kumar/101
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/vijays-kaththi-ajiths-veeram-top-grossing-tamil-films-2014-618958

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veeram

http://www.top10cinema.com/article/30518/forbes-reveals-ajith-kumars-100-crore-film

highest grossing tamil movie mankatha source from producer http://behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/dec-11-04/mankatha-ajith-23-12-11.html http://www.kollyinsider.com/2011/12/mankatha-total-box-office-collection.html Ezhil1992 (talk) 12:06, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

References

Partly done: Added entry for Veeram. Need better sources for Mankatha EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 20:22, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 February 2016

highest grossing tamil movies vedalam 117 crores http://www.ibtimes.co.in/highest-grossing-tamil-movies-2015-top-10-films-that-kept-cash-registers-ringing-box-office-659394 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedalam Ezhil1992 (talk) 10:34, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Not done: We're only listing top 10 results in each table. There are already 10 results in the Tamil table. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 11:13, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 February 2016

tamil movie mankatha 130 crores producer itself said to behindwoods source below then why dont u add http://behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/dec-11-04/mankatha-ajith-23-12-11.html http://www.supergoodmovies.com/35926/kollywood/top-10-box-office-collections-of-2011-movies-exclusives-details http://www.indiaglitz.com/mankatha-rakes-in-130-crores--tamil-news-75818.html http://www.kollyinsider.com/2011/12/mankatha-total-box-office-collection.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mankatha Ezhil1992 (talk) 10:51, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

•  Not done None of these qualify WP:RS. —Vensatry _(Talk) 10:55, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
• Ezhil1992 Please read the clear explanation I provided the first time you requested this change. Please do not submit this request again unless you can find better references. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 11:15, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 February 2016

the details given about kannada films are not correct its really fake Sathyaharalepet (talk) 12:43, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

 Not done as it clearly states Requests that do not include a reliably published source with a reputation for editorial oversight that verifies the suggested changes WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED - Arjayay (talk) 12:47, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 February 2016

need change in highest grossing tamil movies vedalam 125.7 crores http://www.ibtimes.co.in/vedalam-total-box-office-collection-ajith-starrer-grosses-rs-125-7-crore-lifetime-668786 Ezhil1992 (talk) 15:35, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Done EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 19:50, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Vedalam should be included in the Tamil list

Vedalam should be included in the Tamil list. In Andhraboxoffice.com, the collections of Vedalam are shown as 125.7 crores. So it will definitely find a place in the Top10 Tamil list. Andhraboxoffice.com is the only authentic source for Telugu movies. It collects information from producers and distributors. Sometimes, other media sources exaggerate the collections but Andhraboxoffice.com provides exact figures. Sometimes, it gives collection reports of Tamil movies also. Almost all the reliable sources including IBTimes, Times of India, The Indian Express, take reference from Andhraboxoffice.com. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhuvannalla (talk • contribs) 16:45, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Bhuvannalla - When you decide to submit references from reliable sources that support your assertion, maybe then there will be some movement on this. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:14, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Just added it per edit request from today EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 19:51, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 March 2016

highest grossing tamil movie thupakki collected only 125 crores http://www.newindianexpress.com/entertainment/tamil/Will-Thalaivaa-enter-the-150-crore-club/2013/07/25/article1700153.ece http://www.ibtimes.co.in/will-vijay039s-039thalaivaa039-outperform-039thuppakki039-494466

1.23.23.211 (talk) 10:21, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

 Not done because the Times of India article cited states 180 Crore - please note the figure is tagged as disputed - Arjayay (talk) 10:29, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Clarification needed in Telugu film collections:

Attarintiki Daaredi share collections were 74 crore [1]. So estimated gross figures would be around 130 crore. Source might include pre-release business which is around 50 crore. Business Standard usually publishes figures which makers announces.

Coming to Gabbrsingh, it's share collections were 63 crore [2]. It is nearly impossible to collect 150 crore. India Today mentioned Gabbarsingh started the 100 crore club. But films Magadheera, Dookudu which released earlier than this, already achieved this feet according to your table.

Srimanthudu closing share was 85 crore [3]. It might touch 150 crore gross collections but not 200 crore. Eega share collections were 57 crore [4]. Even for this 125 crore was a distant figure.

Since share was always more than 50% of gross, my argument might be correct. And many Telugu films are having their releases in AP/Nizam majorly, for which tax is less. So, except films like Baahubali (Had the long run and released in 3000 theatres in ROI/Overseas), all other films gross would be around 1.5-1.75 times share figures based on run (long run decreases share percent) and theatres in ROI/Overseas. The source provided for the film Racegurram may justify my argument. I would like to edit as per this source. But before that I need to discuss. PK ^talk 10:55, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 April 2016

pleae read following article carefully and do the necessary changes in malayalam highest grossing films.the movie Action Hero Biju Grossed 31 Cr in total from its world wide run, this includes Kerala 16Cr Rest of India 4Cr, UAE-GCC 8.92Cr and US+UK+Others 2.5Cr. This is the third biggest for Nivin Pauly after Premam and Bangalore Days.http://www.plumeriamovies.com/action-hero-biju-box-office-…/. please update this list with new releases in the year 2016. thank youMaju Peter (talk) 08:01, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Maju Peter (talk) 08:01, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

 Not done Plumeria Movies is not a reliable source - Arjayay (talk) 08:53, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 April 2016

Please add Theri to highest grossing tamil movies. PFA find attached forbes update highest grossing tamil movie Director Atlee Kumar’s Theri, which stars Vijay in the dual roles of a cop and a doting father, together with Samantha Ruth Prabhu, Mahendran, Amy Jackon and Radikaa, amassed 156.23 crore ($23.5 million) in its first week worldwide. http://www.forbes.com/sites/dongroves/2016/04/24/tollywood-box-office-update-sarrainodu-scores-in-the-u-s-and-india/#6a94c5776880

References

Done Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:07, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 April 2016

115.248.131.55 (talk) 05:54, 26 April 2016 (UTC) mr airavatha | 2015 | ap arjaun | sandesh combines | ₹67 crore (US$8.0 million) |

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 06:41, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 April 2016

Please add in Tamil higehst grosser, the Vijay starrer Puli or delete Vedalam.

Because The Top 10 list in Tamil is now Top 11 !

93.217.79.249 (talk) 14:15, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

 Not done as you have not cited a reliable source and the IBTimes reference used in the article here states that Puli was a flop. - Arjayay (talk) 14:48, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 April 2016

add> kaththi 130 cr Rivendran058 (talk) 13:50, 28 April 2016 (UTC)remove vedalam

 Not done the reliable source used in the Kaththi article states 124 crore, so it is not in the top 10 - Arjayay (talk) 14:00, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 April 2016

insert kaththi in the highest growsing tamil films 124c

59.96.37.145 (talk) 14:22, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Not done: See above. We're only listing top ten and there are already ten examples. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:39, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 April 2016

In Tamil Categorie:

Vijay latest Film Theri, still running. Has grossed 175 crore so far worldwide.

https://twitter.com/sandhumerry/status/725000636643811328?lang=de

He is an editor in Indian Cinema Magazine UK & UAE. Member of UK Censor Board. Indian Movies Boxoffice Expert & I'm also film Distributor in Middle East, India & UK.

2003:77:6F05:51CD:C7D:2F:95D1:22A (talk) 14:58, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — JJMC89 (T·C) 01:51, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 May 2016

Kaththi total Box office collection As per Times of India, it is 126 Crores and as per Indian Movie Stats it is 135 crores but absolutely more than Veeram because there is official declaration over Kaththi entry in 100 Crore Club while Veeram released alongside Jilla caused loss in terms of revenue to both side by declaring both film as average hits, so how could you mention it collected 130 crores which is totally fake. As per Popular Magazine and Newspapers, Kaththi is Highest Grossing Tamil film of year 2014 with profits after Lingaa and no where Veeram is mentioned. 103.228.40.200 (talk) 16:07, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 16:48, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 May 2016

| 8 | Dilwale | 2015 |Red Chillies Entertainment | Hindi |₹140 crore (US$17 million) as in the Dilwale (2015 film) article Manish79 19 (talk) 08:54, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

 Not done the 140 crore only relates to the Indian market - this table is based on worldwide gross - Arjayay (talk) 09:20, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 May 2016

Vijay´s Theri is earning worldwide 200 crore. https://twitter.com/sandhumerry/status/726774237860601856

Why he shouldn´t he be a reliable source ?

He is a Member of UK Censor Board!!!!!!! That means, before the release of a Film, he is one of the luckiest guy, to watch it first!!!!!! He is also a film Distributor, he should know what he write/talk.

For Example:

He has written on it´s release date. That Vijay starrer Theri grossed 28 crore in India alone!!!! https://twitter.com/sandhumerry/status/720649708251836417

Other leading newspaper, have postet the same fact, few days later!!!

http://andhraboxoffice.com/info.aspx?id=1907&cid=6&fid=3373

All by All, why he shouldn´t be a reliable source? He is one of the first, who get´s the right information

In the categorie of Telugu Films:

How earned Sarainodu 110 crore ? You have this link in References. In this link is said, that Sarainodu has earned 70 crore till date. How is 110 crore then possible ? http://www.ibtimes.co.in/sarainodu-sarrainodu-7-day-box-office-collection-allu-arjun-starrer-crosses-rs-70-crore-mark-676806

Till the date of yesterday, Sarainodu has grossed 83,61 crore, not 110 crore!

http://andhraboxoffice.com/info.aspx?id=1917&cid=6&fid=3378

2003:77:6F05:5189:7578:10ED:19A5:35B6 (talk) 16:03, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Partly done: We don't typically use Twitter posts as references, especially not Twitter accounts that are not confirmed. See WP:UGC. Suitable references typically include mainstream publications with established reputations for fact-checking. As for Sarainodu, this guy made the change and clearly added the wrong value. I don't know if he added the wrong value on purpose, or if it was an honest mistake, but I've changed the value back to 72 crore. I'm not making the change to 83.61 crore because I'm not comfortable with AndhraBoxoffice.com as a reliable source. It looks like a run-of-the-mill blog with no clear editorial oversight. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:37, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 May 2016

Kathi movie is crossed almost 134 crore http://www.imdb.com/list/ls056961877/ http://www.iluvcinema.in/tamil/vijay-kaththi-100th-day-box-office-collections/ http://www.ibtimes.co.in/vijays-kaththi-ajiths-veeram-top-grossing-tamil-films-2014-618958 Kumarkraja84 (talk) 10:48, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

 Not done IMDB and iluvcinema are not reliable sources and the ibtimes article you cite, which is a reliable source, states 124 crore - so it does not make the top 10.

Semi-protected edit request on 8 May 2016

1.23.23.46 (talk) 12:16, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Not done: Blank request — JJMC89 (T·C) 12:45, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 May 2016

Please update Vijay´s Theri and Thuppaki

http://www.onlookersmedia.in/latestnews/theri-vs-24-a-comparison 2003:77:6F05:51D8:6D90:8DF1:9507:7F92 (talk) 19:50, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Not done for now: The source you provide does not appear to meet the reliable source criteria. The article has no author name (just "admin") and the About page for the website gives no details about editorial oversight. If you can provide another, better source, I'd be happy to update the gross. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 20:08, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 May 2016

Please update Theri and Thuppaki Box office collection

https://www.onlookersmedia.in/latestnews/theri-vs-24-a-comparison 2003:80:C504:BC01:B9CE:8A1B:225B:BF58 (talk) 12:00, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. As noted the last time you requested this change, we aren't interested in what blogs have to say. Anyone can create a blog and claim to be an expert in Indian cinema financial data. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:16, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 May 2016

In Tamil categorie:

Vijay starrer Theri

Update new box office collection worldwide : 170 crore

https://www.onlookersmedia.in/latestnews/enthiran-also-bowed-down-before-theri-in-chennai 2003:80:C524:6501:54E7:D00B:5269:AB0F (talk) 13:40, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Not done: Duplicate request. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:44, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 May 2016

Please update Theri Tamil movie: 170 crore

https://www.onlookersmedia.in/latestnews/enthiran-also-bowed-down-before-theri-in-chennai

2003:80:C524:6501:54E7:D00B:5269:AB0F (talk) 07:15, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Not done: We don't use blogs as references. Anyone with an internet connection can start a blog and claim to be an expert in Indian film financials. Onlookersmedia.in is a blog. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:46, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 May 2016

<Theri in tamil not grossed 156 crores only 100 crores producer -->

109.7.96.211 (talk) 11:54, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

 Not done - Forbes states 156 crore here - Arjayay (talk) 12:08, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

AndhraBoxOffice.com

In this edit I reverted changes made by Bhuvannalla. I'm not clear on how andhraboxoffice.com qualifies as a reliable source, as it strikes me as yet another faceless blog run by anonymous people. How exactly does it satisfy WP:UGC? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:11, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Andhraboxoffice.com can be considered as an authentic website for Telugu movies. Most of the reliable sources such as IBTimes, TimesOfIndia, IndianExpress take reference from Andhraboxoffice.com. It gathers information from film producers and distributors. Even though some reliable sources, that Wikipedia uses as reference, exaggerate the gross collections of certain films, Andhraboxoffice.com gives the exact figures. For Sarainodu, here is the standard source showing that the movie has collected Rs. 101 crores. http://www.ibtimes.co.in/sarainodu-sarrainodu-17-day-box-office-collection-allu-arjun-starrer-crosses-rs-100-crore-678046 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhuvannalla (talk • contribs) 19:05, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

What is your metric for determining "authentic"? The quality of Indian journalism is poor, and if your argument is that the entertainment sections of these sources are quoting Andhra without vetting the accuracy yourself, I'm not sure that's your strongest argument. And again, the site is a blog and there is no clear indication of who is behind it or what makes the people who run the site experts in the field. How do you plan to establish that it doesn't constitute user-generated content? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:49, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

See the sourcing and discussion from Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force. It was discussed last in October 2014 and the page itself was deleted per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andhra Box Office. If someone thinks it is notable now, we can discuss it again but I see no evidence that the website has substantively improved to a level to indicate reliability. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 01:08, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Ricky. Since this discussion may be archived one day, for historical accuracy, I wanted to clarify one point from my comment above: I don't think that all Indian journalism is bad, but there are a lot of bad examples out there, and a lot of people who run fly-by-night sites that adhere to zero traditional journalistic standards. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:14, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

I don't think that's in dispute. That's the Indian film board has found some websites are reliable sources and others as not. The important thing is that there is consistency and we don't need to rehash every discussion. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 03:19, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2016

Kalaipuli Dhanu confirm 187 crore box office collection of Vijay starrer Thuppaki, directed by AR. Murugados. Please update from 180 crore to 187 crore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CTpy2sjerM

2003:77:6F05:51D1:5455:128C:8E33:86F4 (talk) 19:35, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Not done for now: Sorry, we don't use primary sources for controversial information like financial details. Directors, producers, actors, promoters all have a vested interest in inflating or deflating these numbers, depending on what their financial goals are. (Inflating numbers might make the film more attractive to people who want to be part of the spectacle, deflating numbers might make the production company less liable for entertainment taxes, etc.) We're only interested in what reliable secondary sources (no blogs, no IMDb) have to say about the data. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:45, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 June 2016

The film named Killing Veerappan which released on january 1st 2016(kannada version) and 7th january 2016(telugu dubbed version) collected approx 34 crores in both languages.

Please add killing veerappan in the list of kannada films

|- | Killing Veerappan | 2016 | Ram Gopal Varma | Zed3 productions | ₹38 crore (US$4.6 million) | Plaster kill bill (talk) 16:02, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

References

Not done: According to the page's protection level you should be able to edit the page yourself. If you seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. It appears you are autoconfirmed already. — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 16:25, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Plaster kill bill, though you may be capable of editing the page, you're going to need to provide a better reference before changing the content. We don't use blogs as references, because anyone can create a blog and call himself an expert. Please stick to reliable mainstream publications with established reputations for fact-checking. Anything short of that will be reverted. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:49, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Change Theri Gross to 175 Crore World Wide

Theri has grossed around 175 Crores Worldwide in the first 50 days of its run. Is this a reliable source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kesh505 (talk • contribs) 23:08, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

Can we now say Baahubali is a Telugu movie only?

Last year, there was a big hue and cry in wikipedia discussion when Baahublai was listed as a Tamil movie (to be specific Kollywood industry) although the production house is based in Hyderabad and the director-hero are popular only with Telugu audience (the main actresses are known in both Telugu and Tamil movie industries, however). The film was made in Tamil too and hence Baahubali was given a shared status of Tamil and Telugu by moderators. But as many pointed out this idea of just making a movie in a language does not necessarily mean the movie belongs to that specific movie industry. One must take into account various other factors like - production house location, director, actor etc. The moderators who are usually ignorant of the nuances of differences about Indian movie industries, stick to some notions that may be sensible elsewhere, but not in India where a director-actor association with a specific movie industry is pretty strong. During the last year's discussion, one of the commentators who insisted on Baahubali being only a Telugu film (or to be specific Tollywood industry), predicted that Baahubali would not be nominated for any award in Tamil. Lo and behold, his/her prediction came true: Baahubali has not been represented at all in Tamil Filmfare nomination for 2016. Of course the argument would be given that perhaps Baahubali was not worth for any award in Tamil movie industry - but I think a better argument is they didn't even consider it to be a Tamil film to begin with. So if Filmfare, which is officially the "Oscars" for India, along with most of the Indian audience who have good knowledge of Indian movie industry rightfully treat Baahubali as only Telugu film, why do moderators here think differently? I am surprised that someone can be a moderator on wikipedia without much understanding of the field upon which they are moderating. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.147.191.11 (talk) 13:37, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

Consensus has already been reached on this issue, and the decision was arrived at by regular editors, not by "moderators". You can thank the dishonest editors who resorted to antics like sockpuppetry for polluting the conversation with their petulant behavior. Nowhere else but in Indian cinema articles do we find this drive to attribute a film to an ethnic industry rather than uncontroversially indicating the languages the film was recorded in. Tollywood is clearly indicated in the main article. This list article is focused on the highest grossing films of India organized by language, not by ethnic film industry. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:27, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

• Agreed. It was a many month long lengthy discussion with every possible conceivable angle discussed and nothing new here has been presented. Everyone else has moved on as frankly no one should care. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 19:44, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 June 2016

Theri Box office Collection:

http://idailytimes.com/vijays-theri-collects-rs-250cr-worldwide-box-office-update.html

2003:80:C514:4501:619D:2679:2B9:47ED (talk) 07:09, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Done st170e^talk 13:09, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

add surya's 24 tamil movie in tamil list

Sir Good Evening Please add starer surya's 24 tamil moive in the list of Tamil films

|- | 24 | 2016 | Vikram Kumar | 2D Entertainment

Kindly Request for add tamil movie starre surya 24 moive the movie collected world wide 150 crores this is the proof website: http://www.onlookersmedia.in/collection-report/suriya-24-collection-report-28-days http://gabbarboxofficecollection.com/2016/suriya-24-box-office-collection-3rd-day-sunday-1st-weekend-total-collection.html Samsuddeen (talk) 14:38, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Not done: Samsuddeen, we don't use blogs or other user-generated sources as references. See WP:UGC and prior explanations on this talk page. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:55, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Sure Add this 24 movie 150crores

Kasim999 (talk) 13:54, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Mungaru Male gross

In this edit I reverted Honor bee's resubmission of a 75 crore total for Mungaru Male. Filmibeat is not considered a reliable source by WP:ICTF. Mybangalore.com looks like a blog to me, and thus would be unsuitable per WP:UGC. The final reference, dnaindia.com, attributes the information to the film's lead actor, which would mean that we're using a primary source for controversial information. A primary source would absolutely have a reason to fudge the financial numbers of a film, for instance he might inflate it to make it more of an attractive spectacle for potential viewers, or he might deflate it to reduce the film's entertainment tax liability, or an actor might inflate it to make himself more marketable as an actor. There are all sorts of reasons why it is a bad idea to use a primary source for controversial data. Oh, and the information was also previously submitted by a disruptive troll who is not welcome to edit at Wikipedia, which should raise some questions about motive and appropriateness of the submission. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:03, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Moot point. Not surprisingly, Honor bee was a sock of Nagendra NJ, a user who is not welcome to edit at Wikipedia. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:53, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 July 2016

115.112.71.222 (talk) 14:06, 21 July 2016 (UTC) Vedalam Movie of Ajith 56 Director Siva Mass Opening in TamilNadu 15.5 Crores in First Day.

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Also any change would require you to provide reliable sources. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:25, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 July 2016

it had collected nearly 90 crore on first day

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/kabali-box-office-collection-rajinikanth-starrer-performs-well-2nd-day-687625#yiEzDzEOeZv9dKa1.97 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:77:6F5F:D6FE:105F:CC1F:3209:9CC4 (talk) 16:32, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 July 2016

Kabali earth shattering opening: 200 crore in just 3 day,

please add superstars Kabli in Tamil movie list

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/kabali-3-day-box-office-collection-rajinikanth-starrer-grosses-over-rs-200-crore-worldwide-687728 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:80:C514:4501:7C5E:F40E:23AE:5190 (talk) 08:21, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 July 2016

Kabali Update: 210 crore worldwide over the weekend

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/kabali-box-office-collection-rajinis-film-fails-surpass-bahubali-1st-weekend-record-beats-687768 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:80:C514:4501:7C5E:F40E:23AE:5190 (talk) 09:39, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 July 2016

Sgoli123 (talk) 17:38, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

References

 Not done - You didn't request anything. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:26, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 July 2016

Kabali has only grossed 200 crore as per the Indian Express Article. the other 200 crore is the business done before the movie release. So, it should be changed to 200 crore from 400 crore

VigneshwaranShanmugam (talk) 19:10, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Done Reverted in this edit. For anyone else who's curious, VigneshwaranShanmugam is referring to this reference, which says, "the Rajinikanth-starrer has earned about Rs 400 crore already. While Rs 200 crore is the box office collection, the film earned Rs 200 crore before release with sale of music rights etc." I imagine the trades will botch things and we will see the 400crore+ figure cited again and again. We're not here to track every dollar the film traded, and music rights sales should not be reflected in box office gross. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:33, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 July 2016

Lalithsmash (talk) 19:41, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Not done: Blank request — JJMC89 (T·C) 19:57, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 July 2016

kabali has grossed over 400 crores and it has to be changed http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/regional/rajinikanth-kabali-day-4-box-office-collections-radhika-apte-tamil-movie-2934930/

Njj55 (talk) 07:47, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Not done: See further up on the page. Short story: 400 crore figure is not the box office gross, it represents box office + other revenue streams prior to the film's release. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:44, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 July 2016

Dasavathaaram Tamil movies - 200 Crore collection economic times.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/business-of-bollywood/a-rendezevous-with-kamal-haasan/articleshow/4357064.cms

Movie Wiki Link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasavathaaram

VigneshwaranShanmugam (talk) 20:15, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Not done: Contradicted by this reference. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:45, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 July 2016

Kabali 4 days collections: 200 crores

http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/regional/rajinikanth-kabali-day-4-box-office-collections-radhika-apte-tamil-movie-2934930/

The current article that was used as source says kabali has collected 250 crores in 1 day, which has been refuted by other magazines and was informed that was not possible. Please change the collection from 250 crore to 200 crore

VigneshwaranShanmugam (talk) 15:38, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Not done: VigneshwaranShanmugam, you need to substantiate your statement that the 250 crore value asserted by this typically reliable source has been refuted as impossible. Surely we can't just take your word for it. Please bring those references to this talk page and start a discussion on how the content should be presented in the article. Please do not open another edit request until consensus has been reached. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:49, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 July 2016

Kabali Update:

425 crore

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/kabali-4th-day-box-office-collection-rajinis-film-smashes-fastest-fifty-beats-ajiths-687871 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:80:C514:4501:343C:F077:BF1E:3F55 (talk) 07:52, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

 Not done - The scope of this article is box office grosses. Wikipedia is not an accounting firm, so it's not our job to tally up all the money made from Kabali's myriad revenue streams. Just box. If the box office gross reaches 425 crore, then you can come back to request a change. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:53, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 July 2016

220.227.74.73 (talk) 12:47, 27 July 2016 (UTC) Why is thalaiva not added to the list despite grossing more(145 crores) than mankatha(130 Crores) http://www.metromasti.com/kollywood/news/Thalaivaa-worldwide-total-collections-T halaiva-box-office-update/30866

Not done for now: A more reliable source is needed to change the statistics st170e^talk 19:21, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 July 2016

2nd request

Update Kabali Box office collection: 300 crore till now

http://www.indiaglitz.com/kabali-beat-enthiran-collection-tamil-news-163921.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:77:6F5F:D656:A491:A206:E2BB:47B (talk) 19:47, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

You don't need to make a second request, you can wait until a volunteer decides to make the change. Wikipedia has no deadline. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:50, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 July 2016

117.241.163.243 (talk) 09:49, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carry_On_Jatta pls change to punjabi movie history its 3rd numbers movie

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Sam Sailor ^Talk! 09:54, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 July 2016

220.227.74.73 (talk) 05:44, 29 July 2016 (UTC) Update Kabali's Gross. Seems Like the Admin of this page are concerned only about bollywood movies,in that case split this page and make a separate article only for hindi movies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.227.74.73 (talk • contribs)

Not done: as you have not made a specific request in the form "Please replace XX with YY" or "Please add ZZ between PP and QQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 13:41, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Perhaps the volunteers at this page aren't interested in updating Kabali's gross every six hours, and the constant requests are only cluttering the talk page, making it more difficult to discern which is the most useful data. Wikipedia does not have a deadline, so we're not in any hurry, and you shouldn't be either. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:44, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 July 2016

Kabali 335 crore, and please put it into the Top 15 of all time.

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/kabali-7-days-box-office-collection-rajinikanths-film-ends-high-note-first-week-688236 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:80:C514:4501:C976:6AE5:869C:25F7 (talk) 09:06, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

 Not done - Source says "The early prediction says that the movie has raked in over Rs. 335 crore." Predictions are guesses. The source also attributes the 320 crore figure to the producer, which would constitute a primary source. Producers have a vested interest in fudging financial data. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:51, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 July 2016

Kabali Update to 326 crore

http://behindwoods.com/tamil-movies-cinema-news-16/producer-thanu-asks-kabali-director-paranjith-to-do-another-film-for-v-creations.html

http://www.indiaglitz.com/kalaipuli-s-thanu-says-rajinikanth-radhika-apte-kabali-collected-rs-320-crores-in-six-days-tamil-news-164085.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:80:C514:4501:C976:6AE5:869C:25F7 (talk) 09:04, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

 Not done - The 326 crore figure is claimed by the producer. Producers, actors, directors, distributors all constitute primary sources. A producer would have every reason to inflate or deflate financial figures to serve his personal gain. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:53, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 July 2016

Kabali 326 crore

http://behindwoods.com/tamil-movies-cinema-news-16/rajinikanths-kabali-has-collected-326-crores-in-6-days-says-thanu.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:77:6F5F:D61F:595B:28D0:9908:8D41 (talk) 18:02, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

 Not done - The 326 crore figure is claimed by the producer. Producers, actors, directors, distributors all constitute primary sources. A producer would have every reason to inflate or deflate financial figures to serve his personal gain. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:54, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 July 2016

Update Kabali Box office collection: 300 crore till now

http://www.indiaglitz.com/kabali-beat-enthiran-collection-tamil-news-163921.html

If you dont understand tamil, please translate the sentences in English, especially the last sentense — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:80:C514:4501:743F:D366:1B14:2B8E (talk) 07:18, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

 Not done - I'm not comfortable using IndiaGlitz as a reference. Also, the Google translation of the last sentence is "Websites and social web users when giving negative reviews of some of the film's box office has been less successful is Rs 300 crore towards the goal." It is unclear what that means. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:58, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Koimoi

Koimoi is not considered a reliable source per WP:ICTF, yet many of the film grosses in this article are supported by Koimoi as a reference.[5] Is this bugging anyone? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:16, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

• That's the least concerning thing for me but I agree with their removal. It would be helpful if the Indian film task force agreed on removing it. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 00:43, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Protection raised

Given the aggressive attempts to make this into a live action box office results with poor sources, I've raised protection here. I advise the people coming here to spend more than a minute and actually look for a reliable source and discuss it. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 00:40, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Ricky81682, I've restored the talk page edit notice to make it clear that claims made by primary sources will not be accepted. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:47, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 30 July 2016

On the top of the article it says Semi-protected, but the article is fully protected. The article was recently targeted with edit warring, but has already been done

86.22.8.235 (talk) 09:48, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 30 July 2016

Kabali latest 330 crore

www.thereportertimes.com/kabali-8th-day-box-office-collection/33135/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:77:6F5F:D64C:6CEB:4D5D:8931:5988 (talk) 16:31, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

 Not done - Thereportertimes.com is not a reliable source. We don't care what random blogs have to say. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:49, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Kabali latest 320 crore. Do you take Indiatoday a national daily as a source atleast?

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/kabali-rajinikanth-box-office-collecion-total-collection/1/726839.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎SaiGovind95 (talk • contribs)

When you posted this request, SaiGovind95, there was a giant notice at the top of the edit window. It said:

1. Wikipedia does not have a deadline nor an obligation to report-up-to-the-minute box office numbers;
   
2. Requests that do not include a reliably published source with a reputation for editorial oversight that verifies the suggested changes WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED.
3. Requests to change budget/box office data that are supported by claims made by, or attributed to, primary sources (producers, actors, directors, distributors, etc.) will be closed with no action. Only independently verified estimates from reliable published sources will be entertained.

Please note #3. Now look at your reference.

"At the success meet of Kabali, the makers have revealed that the film has grossed Rs 320 crore worldwide in six days."

So who's the source of the information? The national daily, or the makers of the film? We only care what has been independently verified by secondary sources, not primary sources like film producers/directors, etc. These people have an inherent reason to inflate the values. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:52, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Kabali Worldwide Gross

As producer has conformed earlier; Kabali WW gross was 320 Cr in 6 days. Till yesterday it has crossed 375 Cr, But it's not getting updated in Highest grossing movies column. When someone adds; the other people (North Indians/Bollywood) are removing... It's pathetic and sick... Please add... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.82.194.32 (talk) 07:17, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

183.82.194.32: No. Read the answers above. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 07:48, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 31 July 2016

I wanna edit some things

Hulk60606 (talk) 14:01, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:16, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 1 August 2016

I would like to know why the tamil film Dasavathaaram is missing from the list of top grossing tamil films. I think Dasavathaaram had grossed over 100 crores.

Rajeshbieee (talk) 10:42, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Not done: I can't tell if you're requesting an edit or just asking a question, but we already have the top 10 highest-grossing Tamil films in the article. Previous consensus preferred to limit the number of examples to 10, and the 100 crore value you're claiming (even if sourced) would be less than the Rs. 130 crore value held by Mankatha in the #10 spot. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:11, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 1 August 2016

Please add this detail and adjust the list.

http://www.financialexpress.com/lifestyle/showbiz/kabali-box-office-collections-rajinikanth-powers-movie-to-over-rs-645-cr/333841/#.V53i_ingnCE.whatsapp

Thanks

Prasannainfo (talk) 12:25, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:11, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 1 August 2016

change the box office of the film kabali it is more than 600 crores

http://www.financialexpress.com/photos/entertainment-gallery/334390/kabali-box-office-collections-at-over-rs-650-cr-rajinikanth-starrer-is-now-no-1-movie-in- india/

Originalboxofficer (talk) 13:32, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Not done for now: Unclear whether they are claiming 650 crore was grossed solely from box office sales. It's said that the film took in 200 crore before it was even released, and several sources have erroneously included this value into the box office details. Also, three days ago everyone was gung-ho to claim 320 crores (attributed to the producer) had been grossed in six days--did the film gross an additional 280 crore in three days? Thankfully, since Wikipedia has no deadline, we're not in a rush to add this information and we can certainly wait until some of the box office dust settles and the estimates even out. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:21, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Oh, and this source, provided by the editor above you, seems to lump the 200 crore "from marketing" into a 645 crore total, indicating 195 crore grossed domestically, and 250 crore internationally. So at best we'd be talking about 445 crore, not 650. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:33, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

The source itself admits that "no official word" about it but basically rumors. I say we wait. If it's true, other sources will confirm it. If not, then we can disregard. It's not like the end total is going to change based on whether or not we update it today. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 17:43, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Bahubali languages shown wrong

Bahubali was released simultaneously in tamil , telugu, hindi and malayalam. Then why only tamil and telugu are listed in the table. if you see the box office areawise collections, you can see that more than 40% of its collections were from Rest of India minus south.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baahubali:_The_Beginning (see topic "release")

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/baahubali-bahubali-lifetime-box-office-collection-prabhas-starrer-earns-rs-302-crore-its-649645

(see collection trends) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenfireworks (talk • contribs) 18:44, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Greenfireworks, the film was simultaneously shot in Tamil and Telugu. We aren't counting dubs in the list. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:02, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

See the prior discussion here. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 20:38, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 2 August 2016

I need to edit wikipwdia

Dhinakaran19 (talk) 04:19, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you. EvergreenFir (talk) 04:26, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 2 August 2016

kabali has grossed 2.5 billion inr check in google fools

Nj666 (talk) 11:20, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Not done for now: Nj666, thanks to some very over-eager readers who were willing to believe anything the producer said, and inconsistent reporting in the press, it seems the best approach for dealing with Kabali's box office data is to wait a bit until the information settles. Also, please watch the name-calling. It has no place at Wikipedia and only distracts from the discussion. Oh, and if you choose to make an edit request again, please provide references from reliable published sources. Saying "check in google" doesn't actually facilitate anything. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:33, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

kabali 2.5 billion inr

change the list today itself — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nj666 (talk • contribs) 11:24, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Nj666, see above. There's no need to fill out multiple edit requests. Wikipedia has no deadline. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:34, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

SULTAN

Update boxoffice collections of sultan, as it grossed around 568crs according to already provided source Ambeinghari (talk) 08:37, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

 Done - Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:36, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 2 August 2016

Cyphoidbomb, your point is right, so please check the below link and I believe it is valid enough to add Dasavathaaram in the top grossing 10 tamil films list. I hope you will add it and that's the edit request I have.

http://movies.ndtv.com/regional/baahubali-to-thuppakki-tamil-cinemas-100-cr-films-1204181

Rajeshbieee (talk) 06:08, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Done Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:53, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 2 August 2016

Why is Vishwaroopam and Dasavatharam in the TOP 10 of highest grossing in tamil cinema?!??!

Kamal Hassan has not such a Fan following in the south, like Vijay, Ajith or Mahesh Babu.

The Internet Site must be a unreliable source — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:77:6F5F:D6CD:F445:FB2B:CD19:3250 (talk) 17:46, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

The answer to your question is: because the values are supported by reliable published sources. If you can provide other information that is supported by mainstream sources with established reputations for fact-checking and accuracy (no blogs, no other shady sources) then changes can be considered. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:20, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 2 August 2016

new update on Kabali

http://www.financialexpress.com/lifestyle/showbiz/kabali-box-office-collections-rajinikanth-rs-670-cr-does-the-impossible-beats-the-bollywood-brigade/336330/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:77:6F5F:D6CD:9C86:DB0D:E48F:5A64 (talk) 19:38, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

 Not done - I'm not willing to make changes to the article until the box office data stabilizes across the various sources that endeavor to report it, not just to regurgitate information from one source. This source from two days ago said 262 crore. Did the film gross 200 crore extra in 2 days? Unless you're in a position to argue that higher numbers by default equal greater accuracy, I think it's premature to say definitively what the actual gross estimates reflect. Adding the info seems to place Wikipedia in the middle of a promotional campaign, which is not our job. Further, as noted numerous times above, Wikipedia has no deadline. If we have to wait a month for a consistent gross estimate across all sources, so be it. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:33, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 2 August 2016

Can you please say, what you are doing in this site ?

It´s just a joke, if Aambala starring Vishal, earned 256 crore. He is a one of the local heros in Tamil Cinema. He can be happy, if his movie surpass the 50 crore.

Also I only 135 crore ?!?!??!

Is this side a joke ?!?!

Please close this nonsence — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:77:6F5F:D6CD:2943:6C8C:C7C2:407A (talk) 21:00, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

I mean this side

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_Tamil_films#cite_note-2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:77:6F5F:D6CD:2943:6C8C:C7C2:407A (talk) 21:01, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

 Done - You should have asked your question at Talk:List of highest-grossing Tamil films, not here. That said, the problem was a result of vandalism from 2015. I fixed the error in this edit. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:23, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Kabali

Kabali has raked in more than 330 crores ... How can it still be at 250 crores ... Can the person pls make the changes .. Do not give the wrong updates. 1990Krishna (talk) 07:35, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

1990Krishna, are you in a hurry? Can we wait until the figures calm down a bit? See all the other requests on this page. There is clearly a problem with the values being reported. 14:38, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 4 August 2016

It's not so... Kabali has reached 650 cr becoming the highest grossing tamil movie.But it's Baahubali that's being listed as the first.

Gauthamravichandran (talk) 06:21, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Not done for now: See the other responses above. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 06:26, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Suggestion to add date of update

Wikipedia, Showing the collections to be higher than the actual one may put Wikipedia in a promotional campaign. But the showing the figures to be less than what it has earned will earn the film a bad name. I suggest you add the last updated date next to collection column which I believe will sort out half the issues regarding the collections of blockbuster movies. Thank you. Arunkxip (talk) 05:51, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Arunkxip, I'm not concerned with hypothetical damage to a film's reputation. If people are naive enough to expect up-to-the-minute data about films at this encyclopedia, they obviously have no idea what an encyclopedia is. That said, the request otherwise is reasonable given the circumstances, but I assure you that the people who keep conveniently misreading the Financial Express source will continue to make their requests. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 06:46, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 4 August 2016

Farid184 (talk) 13:52, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Hello! Can you change the collection to Baahubali from 600 crore to 581 crore? Because Baahubali collected 581 crore not 600 crore.

Thank you!

Not done: This source estimates 600 crore broken into 518 crore domestic and 82 crore international. Your request is not supported by any references, and even if it were, you're suggesting what, that we change the value to better fit your worldview? Requesting that the data be presented as a range might be a little wiser. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:35, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 4 August 2016

Kabali box office needs to be updated. Source article for your reference is given below: http://www.ibtimes.co.in/kabali-box-office-collection-reports-rajinikanth-starrer-raking-rs-675-crore-13-days-are-fake-688881#Oz9TIMcMAeGq45UD.97

Rragavendaragul (talk) 10:52, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Done Ah, finally, a source that seems to be aware that there are some questionable claims being made. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:43, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 4 August 2016

new resource for kabali

http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/regional/rajinikanth-kabali-box-office-collection-rs-650-crore-leaves-salman-khan-sultan-behind/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:80:C516:201:C018:AF51:D5B1:BEF0 (talk) 08:52, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

See This reference which casts serious doubt on any gross outside of the 309-350 crore range. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:45, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Kabali Box Office update ( Tamil )

Kabali needs to be updated as 470cr (211 Cr domestic + 259 Cr overseas) based on the link. Excluded pre business from 650cr. http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/regional/rajinikanth-kabali-box-office-collection-rs-650-crore-leaves-salman-khan-sultan-behind/ Pradoblaze (talk) 12:37, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Pradoblaze, see This reference which casts serious doubt on any gross outside of the 309-350 crore range. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:46, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Sultan

Please update boxoffice collections of movie sultan. The movie has grossed 577 crores worldwide. Here is the source. . Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ambeinghari (talk • contribs) 14:17, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

References

 Done - Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:55, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Ambiguity in Theri's Box office collections

The "List of Highest grossing Tamil films" says that Theri has raked in 200 crores,whereas this page says that it has only collected 156 crores. Please fix this.This was the movie's collection some 3 and half weeks after its release.The movie has managed 100 successful days in some theatres. I sincerely think that you should update the collections of the movie. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arunkxip (talk • contribs) 18:28, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Arunkxip, at the time you posted this request, both pages (List of highest-grossing Tamil films, List of highest-grossing Indian films) reflected a 156 crore value for Theri, so I'm unclear about what you want changed, or what the references are that you want other editors to look at that would support a higher value. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:08, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 4 August 2016

In terms of Kabali,

Why is ibtimes.co.in more reliable source than indianexpress.com, indiatoday.in and www.financialexpress.com ?

indianexpress, indiatoday, and fincialexpress are also leading newspapers in india.

In that case, three sources talks about 600 crore, and only ibtimes talks about 350 crore.

3 source against 1 source Why you should prefere ibtimes.com ????

I´m waiting for a detailed explanation

so far ~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:77:6F5F:D61D:C117:35C6:B407:1F5C (talk) 19:31, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

I'm assuming you haven't actually read the references, because you're missing some obvious red flags, but let's go down the list.

1. Wikipedia has no deadline. This is not a breaking news source, it is an encyclopedia. If we have to wait to get stable, believable numbers, then we will wait. We are under no obligation to maniacally report whatever the source-of-the-minute says, and if there is a maniacal push to update these numbers, that's even more reason to slow down.
2. Higher numbers ≠ more accurate numbers
3. You and I both know that there is rampant corruption in Indian film box office numbers and there is no "official" data. All numbers are estimates and all claims should be treated with skepticism and scrutiny.
4. There has already been a push by Kabali's marketing team to authenticate a 320 crore claim that was made by the producer several days ago. This was the reason why the article was protected. We don't regurgitate controversial claims made by producers or other primary sources, which would include their marketing departments, director statements, etc.
5. We're not here to sell tickets to Kabali.
6. I don't know which India Today reference you're talking about, but if you are referring to this one, there's no indication Indiatoday has vetted the content themselves. They attribute the source of the information to the Financial Express. They even acknowledge some doubt in the phrasing "If reports are to go by, Kabali has equalled the worldwide collections of Baahubali and surpassed Salman Khan's Sultan", i.e. "If we assume that the numbers are correct, then Kabali has performed thusly." Theirs is not an incontrovertible statement of fact.
7. This source from Financial Express is a slideshow, which is not a great reference because it's not a proper article. We don't know who wrote that. What if it was an intern with no journalistic experience? They're citing 650 crore, but they're obviously adding in the pre-release income, which is never a part of box office take. Box office take is always what is brought in during a theatrical run. We're not accountants here to tally all the various monies each film made from box office release, DVD sales, satellite rights, music rights, iTunes purchases, Netflix revenues, etc. We care about budget, we care about income during the theatrical release. This 645 claim by Financial Express has done the same thing. So at best, you'd have to subtract 200 crore from those values, including your 600 crore number.
8. Indian Express seems to be part of the same "Express Group" organization, so I don't see this as a unique references. Further, the source linked here also cites Financial Express as the source of their data, so the 650 crore claim has not been independently verified through them either. Thus we know that of the three sources you are attempting to push as the majority, all three contain data that originates from the same place, Financial Express. That's only one source, not three. And I'll go one further to ask rhetorically: who exactly is the author of the Financial Express articles that claim 650 crore? I don't see that any reporter has put their name on the line. Not a huge deal, as staff writers are commonplace, but it certainly raises red flags considering all the inconsistencies and questionable data.
9. Meanwhile, a named reporter from International Business Times has gone out of their way to describe these high numbers as flat-out fake, and has gotten estimates from two media analysts who feel the values are more in the 309-350 range.

So, based on all this information, the only thing we can say for sure is that the film has thus far grossed somewhere in the 309–350 crore range. Given that there are two estimates from IBT I've presented it as a range, but anything higher than that coming from Financial Express is suspect for the time being, and since (per point #1) we are under no obligation to keep up with the minute-by-minute claims, and since there is no deadline, we can wait until a number of sources get closer in agreement with their estimates. My suspicion is that Financial Express is republishing claims made by Kabali's marketing department without labeling it properly. This might also be why we're not seeing the names of specific reporters as we do here. That should answer your questions. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:00, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Box Office collections of Pk , Sultan

In the list Pk is on the top with 791 crore. The source which supports that is of koimoi, which is considered as an unreliable source. The figures are manipulated as the total colletion according to Boxoffice India is 742 crore as you can see here. likewise Bajrangi Bhaijaan, Chennai Express, Prem Ratan Dhan Payo etc all are higher than original collections. Pls make necessary action to make the article perfect..

Likewise collections of Sultan is now standa at 577 crore as you can see below. Pls update. Ambeinghari (talk) 07:28, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

References

Any actions taken Cyphoidbomb Pls.. all collections are misleading readers.. exact collections are mentioned on the sources provided above. Pls check it out. I don't know whether i will get blocked or not, but before going want to contribute some good on this article. Pls see above source.Regards Ambeinghari (talk) 06:33, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 5 August 2016

Please update Kabali to 350 crore, i think this source shoud be fine

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/kabali-box-office-collection-rajinikanth-starrer-beats-7-big-records-baahubali-bahubali-688964 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:80:C516:201:8CB7:8088:2DC6:86AE (talk) 08:30, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

350 crore is already in the article. I'll add the reference if you like. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:44, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 5 August 2016

Include 24 in the list of highest grossing tamil movies. It has grossed 100 crores at global box office.The reference is given below.Please refer to it and add it to the list

Gauthamravichandran (talk) 12:37, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

References

Not done: Gauthamravichandran - Consensus determined that we're only interested in the top 10 films released in those languages. We already have 10 examples. If 24 surpasses Sivaji, feel free to make your request again. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:56, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

wrong list of tamil

1)According to sources and official confirmation 24 grossed 156crore in 26 days(www.skylarkpictures.in, www.galaxyreporter.com, www.moviereviews.in, www.thecourierdaily.com, www.gackhollywood.com , www.onlookersmedia.in, www.iluvcinema.in) 2)according to confirmation made by Wikipedia theri grossed 175 crores,sivaji only 128 crores,vedalam 126 crores,kaththi124 crores,singam2 122 crores(www.Wikipedia.org) Athulnandu (talk) 10:24, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

 Not done - It's unclear what changes you want to be made. Please phrase your request in a "Please change X to Y" format, and please provide reliable sources. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:57, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Except International Business Times, till now there is no other source says Kabali Crosses 600 Cr. All other sources which says this collection, stating source is International Business Times. So suspect is there. IBT says one day it fails to break Bhagubali and Sultan and after two days they expressed it broke all records. How is it possible to beat, even if the film is not performing well third weeks of its release. Now the movie is running less theaters due to new releases and it is not possible to beat blockbusters like Bhagubali and Sultan even those third and fourth week's collection is same like second week whereas it does not workout in Kabali. Please verify all data from liable sources. The same V Creations declared their earlier project Theri crossed 100 crores in four days but after that they did not say anything about the total collection and Wikipedia does not have even estimated total value of the film's lifetime collection.

Now-a-days, saying the film crossed 100 crores in two or three days and it broke all previous records, etc is a market trick to promote the movie to run success in theaters. Kabali's pre-release business is around 200 crores included their BO records but it should not include as per calculation of BO business and that should be calculated in total business. Some sources provided about its fact related to prove the above description. Thanks.

http://www.bollywoodlife.com/news-gossip/rajinikanths-kabali-fails-to-break-salman-khans-sultan-baahubali-box-office-records/ http://www.ibtimes.co.in/kabali-breaks-baahubali-records-fails-beat-sultan-collection-records-overseas-box-office-687856#5JVcAXFBgvwbjcHl.97 http://www.ibtimes.co.in/kabali-breaks-baahubali-records-fails-beat-sultan-collection-records-overseas-box-office-687856#PtuJAhb0lo5G6J25.97 http://www.koimoi.com/box-office/kabali-all-versions-fails-to-beat-the-opening-day-record-of-bahubali/ http://www.hollybollybuzz.com/news-gossip/rajinikanths-kabali-fails-to-break-salman-khans-sultan-baahubali-box-office-records/

Protected edit request on 5 August 2016

need to add the kabali in the Global gross figures as 14 before hte BANG BANG

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| style="background:#9fc;"|* Kabali | 2016 | Pa. Ranjith | Kalaipuli S. Thanu |₹309–350 crore (US$46–52 million) | |-

Ksb1983 (talk) 18:26, 5 August 2016 (UTC) Global gross figures

please add the kabali in the global grossing indian movie list 2 | style="background:#9fc;"|* Kabali | 2016 | Pa. Ranjith | Kalaipuli S. Thanu |₹309–350 crore (US$46–52 million) | |-

References

Not done for now: Seems to me the jury's still out on what Kabali made. Seems premature to assume the 350 figure is indisputable when IBT reported a range between 309 and 350. First Post also noted estimates in the low 300 range. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:43, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia has no deadline - Sultan ₹577 crore or ₹ 297.56 crore?

Wikipedia has no deadline, why was this not applied for Sultan at ₹ 297.56 crore as per these ref's? . If these ref's applies then Sultan has to be removed from both (Hindi films and India's top 15) the list as its yet to cross ₹ 300 crore. Thanks. --Pearll's Sun^TALK 14:56, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

References

pearll's sun, at the time the last change to Sultan was made, there wasn't a days-old conflict going on about its gross, with editors trying to force in content coming from the producer. That's the reason why the article was protected to begin with. The gross bloating is secondary to that. Further, I think this is a reading comprehension issue, since one of the sources you've provided, this, says "With the film set to gross Rs 300 crore in the domestic market" Directly underneath that paragraph is a link to another article, which reads "ALSO READ: Sultan box office collection- Salman-Anushka's film crosses the Rs 500-cr mark worldwide" If we go to that reference, "If Salman Khan and Anushka Sharma's latest release Sultan is galloping towards the Rs 300-crore mark in India, the film has already crossed the Rs 500-crore mark worldwide." Further, if we look at the slideshow you've linked to, on slide #4 it says that Sultan has grossed Rs 570.20 crore worldwide.

So what exact dispute or problem are you trying to illustrate here? The box office totals in this list should reflect worldwide box office totals, not domestic. Please be more circumspect about your questions. You're now asking questions that are not pertinent and that are distracting me from more fruitful pursuits. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:42, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

This is what i'm pointing to. Sultan collected ₹ 4.43 cr in Week 4, taking the 4-week total to ₹ 298.23 cr nett... All set to cross ₹ 300 cr in coming days... ATBB - 5 Aug 2016.. This person seems to a third party party movie critic and analyst. Does it only point to Domestic and not overall (including overseas)? Not urgent, Please reply when you find time. Thanks. --Pearll's Sun^TALK 16:12, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

pearll's sun - Again, I think this is a reading comprehension issue. Adarsh is tweeting about nett figures, not gross. He appears to be an analyst for BollywoodHungama, so note their expanded data. His tweet says ₹298.23 nett. As of this moment, Bollywood Hungama lists ₹298.23 nett in the domestic table. ₹418.27 crore is indicated as the domestic gross, and 580.37 crore is indicated as the worldwide gross. So still, no dispute. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:08, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

pearll's sun As i am an Indian and a movie geek taran adarsh movie critic working for Bollywood hungama is actually tweeting about it Indian version that too the nett collection. Worldwide is now 580 crores. To get through all your doubts and clarification i present to you the day wise break up it now. Pls check this source . You can clearly see day wise, india and worldwide collections. Thanks. Ambeinghari (talk) 02:36, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Boxoffice Collections of Bollywood Movies

Almost all films listed in the highest grossing Bollywood movies are manipulated, as different sources say diff values. Koimoi is been in for so many discussions whether its a reliable source or not. Boxoffice India is lot more accurate among all of these. There are huge difference between the collections which are mentioned in koimoi and boxoffice india. Almost 20-50crs. Need OPINIONS about this problem. As its an important page which states the highest grossing movies, we should do our best to improve and show more of a reliable source. Here is what i got. . Its mentiones all highest grossing movies. Shall we replace koimoi sources which are unreliable with these above mentioned boxoffice india source. Expert Opinions and suggestions pls.......... Ambeinghari (talk) 05:12, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

@Ambeinghari: For note, WP:ICTF#Guidelines on sources has a list of sources for grosses that are considered reliable or unreliable. Koimoi is not considered reliable. Box Office India is considered reliable. Use that instead of Koimoi. EvergreenFir (talk) 05:54, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Thank you very much for reliable sources list. Will be helpful. Regards Ambeinghari (talk) 06:06, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Glad to help. EvergreenFir (talk) 06:08, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

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Kabali da

Kabali box office entered into 400 crore club Gunasekaran710 (talk) 08:21, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

Gunasekaran710 No it didn't. You're confusing their pre-release income with box office income. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:01, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

Kindly include Kabali movie in Top Grossing Indian movie category. Regards Sarose00751 (talk) 12:33, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

http://www.financialexpress.com/photos/entertainment-gallery/334390/kabali-box-office-collections-at-over-rs-650-cr-rajinikanth-starrer-is-now-no-1-movie-in-india/ Sarose00751 (talk) 12:37, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Kabali Box Office Report from a Third Party Independent Verification.

Hi, Kabali Rs 300 Crore box office collection as given by a third party and independent source is now available. . Please help us update. Thanks. --Pearll's Sun^TALK 14:22, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

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 Not done - pearll's sun, the source says the gross is 250, and they predict Kabali will hit 300. Reading is fundamental. "Trade tracker Ramesh B put the India box office business of the Rajinikanth movie at Rs 142.5 crore net and Rs 166.5 crore gross. With the international box office close to Rs 90 crore, the total BO figure has crossed Rs 250 crore worldwide." and "Rajinikanth’s Kabali is a shoo-in for the Rs 300 crore club." Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:18, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

How about this? "Kabali box office collections: At over Rs 650 cr, Rajinikanth starrer is now No. 1 movie in India" Thanks. --Pearll's Sun^TALK 19:30, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

References

pearll's sun - No. See conversation at the bottom of the page opened by Originalboxofficer and responded to by myself and Ricky. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:34, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Will this be taken as a reliable third party source? Thanks. --Pearll's Sun^TALK 12:31, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

References

See This reference which casts serious doubt on any gross outside of the 309-350 crore range. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:46, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Yes, but the way things go, we are unable to accept the film producers claim on collection and even the third party claim has a conflicting claim. What would we do if this is how it stays for ever?

We now have one more ref, though it doesn't give any particular details on collection we can have this for some reference :) Also check these ref's. --Pearll's Sun^TALK 17:30, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Re: "What would we do if this is how it stays for ever?" I would say that you're overly concerned about a problem that hasn't happened yet. As the data passes through the filter of time, the problem is sure to remedy itself. Of the three references you've linked to above, I have nothing specific to say about the first since it reflects content already found in the list. The other two are the same reference repeated twice. They open with a question indicative of disbelief, "Has Kabali really crossed the Rs 600 crore mark?" They follow this with a cautious statement "If the 600-crore figure is correct, then it would mean that Kabali has matched the worldwide collections of Baahubali". That doesn't sound like a resounding confirmation, in fact, it's quite the opposite, especially when followed up with "More conservative estimates put Kabali’s collections at around Rs 300 crores from worldwide ticket sales." So again, no hard evidence that the box office gross has been in the 600+ range, only skeptical re-reports. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:35, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Cyphoidbomb We now have three more third party sources that puts the movie at over 600 crores Indiatimes, IndiaGlitz and Indian Express. Thanks. --Pearll's Sun^TALK 13:17, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

pearll's sun - And again, you're not paying attention to the content of the sources you're pointing me to. You keep pointing me to sources that are blindly regurgitating the tripe from Financial Express, then shifting the burden to me to continue arguing why they're not helpful. I'm not sure how many times you need to hear me argue that if the value is in the 600 crore range, it's almost certainly including pre-release income that we never include in box office details. And if Financial Express is printing totals that other sources have claimed as unrealistically high, I don't know why you're insistent that we consider them, unless you have some vested interest in affirming the high values. As I've previously said, the only thing we know for a fact is that the movie crossed 309-350 crore at the box office. Therefore, that is the reasonable value to include in the article until the data becomes more consistent across the mainstream sources and filtered through time. Surely you've heard that Indian cinema has a lot of box office corruption, right? That's why Times of India stopped reporting box office figures in 2013. So you, as an intelligent, thinking person, should be very skeptical about the latest record-smashing, mind-blowing numbers being reported, particularly when there's no reliable, centralized, impartial methodology for determining the information, and especially when the information keeps coming from the same source. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:34, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Is Baahubali a Telugu-Tamil film or just Telugu?

I'm not sure if this has already been explained but I just wanted a clear consensus being made, after I see that Baahubali has been removed from the list of Tamil films. Are we concluding that Baahubali is a Telugu film only? — EelamStyleZ (talk) 18:16, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

EelamStyleZ - A clear consensus already exists here to include the film in the list of Tamil films, since it was simultaneously filmed in Telugu and Tamil. Rahmana4978 removed it without an explanation in this edit. Care to explain why, Rahmana1978? The list is not divided into precious ethnic film industries, rather, it is divided into languages. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:14, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

I suspect that this will be like the multitudes of other editors who never comment or discuss their reasoning and just rabidly edit to get what they want or disappear until someone new comes later to argue the same thing. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 00:13, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for clarifying that. It's probably best to immediately revert controversial edits done without explanation. EelamStyleZ (talk) 04:40, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Cyphoidbomb, well said. Its a dual language, Telugu and Tamil movie. --Pearll's Sun^TALK 15:11, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

As far as I know, Baahubali is a Telugu language film and not a bi-lingual made in Tamil as well. The film was promoted as an original Tamil film too, but if you watch the film, then you will see the Lip sync not matching in several scenes. As the film became a blockbuster in Tamil language, everyone forgot it as a dubbed film and even won many awards in original Tamil films category. My suggestion is that we should keep Baahubali as a Telugu film dubbed in other languages. In this case, it can be removed from the list of Tamil top grossers. ( Unfortunately I do not have any evidence to show it as a Tamil dubbed version ). Rajeshbieee (talk) 22:34, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Rajeshbieee - Your understanding appears to be flawed, since there were numerous sources that explained it was filmed in two languages at once. Whether or not they used some scenes where the lip sync doesn't match up, is irrelevant. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:56, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Actually as am from south india and very close to movie industries down south, as there are lots of source proving the movie was bilingual film. The movie was dubbed to Hindi and Malayalam. And was made simultaneously in telugu and tamil. Director and lead actor even mentioned that on movie promotions. Thanks. Ambeinghari (talk) 15:48, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Cyphoidbomb - I agree with you and I am not here to prove that I am right as it has been approved by our team that Baahubali is a bi-lingual. Rajeshbieee (talk) 18:04, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Merger proposal

I propose that List of highest-grossing Indian films in overseas markets be merged into List of highest-grossing Indian films. We don't need a separate page just for overseas figures. - Managerarc™ ^talk 20:45, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Managerarc I don't think we need to keep a unique tally of grosses domestically vs. grosses internationally. Maybe discussing whether the overseas article should be deleted is in order. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:53, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb: Multiple reliable sources, newspapers etc do report domestic and overseas figures separately. I don't see a valid reason to completely remove it. Maybe splitting the worldwide gross in the global gross section into overseas and domestic would be a better option?- Managerarc™ ^talk 18:02, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Managerarc, what's the parallel example at Wikipedia for Western films? This just feels like we're treating Indian films like a special snowflake instead of having Indian film articles adhere to common community editing practices. This is especially problematic because of how prone Indian film financials are to fudging, incomplete data, vandalism and other forms of corruption. I'm very reluctant to endorse yet another avenue for paid sock rings to deliver dubious information of questionable academic value. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:00, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb what do you suggest then? The consensus seems to be merge as of now.- Managerarc™ ^talk 22:32, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Managerarc - it would be nice to see some voices from some of the WT:ICTF regulars. Maybe you'd consider inviting them to the discussion? Kailash, Bollyjeff, and so on. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:48, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Merging is appropriate. A totally unnecessary list. See the List of highest-grossing films (FL), gross when adjusted for inflation, films by year, franchise films are all listed in that single page. Likewise, the List of highest-grossing Indian films in overseas markets is not an independent topic, and List of highest-grossing Indian films shows worldwide gross, not the domestic. --Charles Turing (talk) 11:34, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Merge Keeping another article for this is totally unnecessary. Karyasuman (talk) 16:50, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

• Merge. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 00:41, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Merge. -- Rajeshbieee (talk) 10:36, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

• Merge - keep topics inclusive and to prevent any prevailing vandalism/crystal balling. — EelamStyleZ (talk) 18:26, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Merge - Since we have already merged the separate language articles, this is a good fit too. BollyJeff | talk 12:19, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

PK collections!

I know that this is a bit too late.But anyways 'Wikipedia does not have a Deadline'.The collections of PK displayed in the table is its total collection when it hit the screens the first time in 2014(December). The movie was the released in china some 5 months later and had grossed around 200 crores there.I guess we need to update the movie's collections and add this 200 crores to the already existing amount. http://www.daily-sun.com/printversion/details/47585/lsquoPKrsquo-earns-over-Rs-200-crore-in-China Thank You Arunkxip (talk) 16:23, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Kabali's collections.

Kabali has earned a total of 450 crores worldwide.most of the websites report saying that Kabali has collected 650 to 700 crores.we all know that these values aren't true.But on closer examination, each of these websites have clearly mentioned that the 650 crore is including the pre-release sales(200 crores).Neglecting them, we would still get the total collections of Kabali as 450 crores and not 350 crores.Kindly change it. Only International Business Times state that the film has earned 350 crores.The IBT reported saying that the film has grossed over 200 crores in the domestic market.whereas the above mentioned websites state that Kabali has collected around 220 crores and the end of its 2nd week. The values match!. I dont know why Wikipedia relies only on IBT which does not even mention the name of "Trade experts" on the grounds of'requested anonymity' Here are a list of websites which support my statement. http://www.filmibeat.com/tamil/news/2016/kabali-total-worldwide-box-office-collections-3-week-nearing-700-crore-236822.html http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/baahubali-2-kabali-rajinikanth-ss-rajamouli-box-office/1/733808.html http://indianexpress.com/photos/entertainment-gallery/rajinikanths-kabali-makes-rs-650-crore-at-box-office-5-baahubali-records-it-demolished-2961844/ Thank You! Arunkxip (talk) 14:41, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

• Arunkxip - Filmibeat is not considered a reliable source. See WP:ICTF#Guidelines on sources and note "Oneindia". That leaves two references.
• I don't see any of the claims you've made reflected in the India Today reference that you linked to. That leaves one reference.
• "IBT which does not even mention the name of "Trade experts" on the grounds of'requested anonymity'" - Okay, let's continue that thought process. Who wrote the slideshow you linked to here? What analysts are quoted? Who wrote this slideshow? What analysts are quoted? Who wrote this Financial Express article? What analyst is quoted? You can't have it both ways. If unnamed sources is a problem for you, then what do you propose? We remove all box office data for Kabali? That's certainly a possibility. Oh, I also don't think that slideshows are very useful as references. I would imagine that interns put these together, not reporters.
• Wikipedia doesn't only rely on IBT. If there were more mainstream sources reporting info, that'd be great! Right now there is a real problem with Kabali's claims. We have one source, Financial Express, making big claims about records being broken and reporting astronomical gross sums. We have a number of sources that are reprinting Financial Express's claims with no independent verification. On the other hand, we have IBT and Firstpost casting serious doubts about these claims. Doubt speaks volumes. If a source makes a big claim, and another source publicly denounces it, don't you think that's worth serious consideration? Especially in the corrupt world of Indian cinema financial data? These are the only three sources really addressing the financials. It would seem that taking the conservative path until all the data solidifies is the smart thing to do. We are in no hurry. Wikipedia has no deadline. If you want to swallow the 450+ crore values, that's your option as a consumer. But from an academic perspective, there is no harm in being cautious. Encyclopedias are focused on the long-term. We're not a breaking news source. And since you can't make 450 crore without first making 350 crore, it is accurate to assert that 350 crore has been made. At best we're preventing a situation where Wikipedia is being used as part of Kabali's marketing campaign, and at worst we're only delaying the delivery of information a few weeks. These are perfectly acceptable options.
• IBT's latest says that the film crossed the 300 crore milestone, but doesn't mention it crossing 400 crore. They also question some of the records being claimed as having been broken. What's your solution for this? Ignore it and only print the high numbers and record-breaking claims? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:46, 10 August 2016 (UT

Regarding the India Today reference,

Check the second line on the seventh para on the page. It says "Kabali is likely to gross 600 crore worldwide".

So I guess you cant rule out that reference.If one isn't sure on the figure displayed, atleast we can put Disputed-Discuss in square brackets next to the collection(Like the one next to thuppaki)

Thank You!

Arunkxip (talk) 16:13, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

You mean when they describe the film as being "strom" at the box office? Of course we can rule it out. It doesn't support your 450 crore claim, for one. Secondly, if they're ambiguously suggesting that the film is expected to gross 600 crore at the box office, that's problematic, because no other sources believably suggest that 600 crore was taken in at the box. Or do you mean that we should draw a conclusion not expressly stated in the article, and assume that they mean 400 crore was grossed? That's dicey. And don't forget that they've attributed Financial Express as the source of the data, so again, we're only talking about one reference as the source of the questionable data: Financial Express. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:34, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Theri Collections

The reference provided in the page says that "Theri had crossed 156 crores at the end of its first week worldwide and is heading towards 200 crore".(god knows why no one had bothered to update the film collections after that!!). Well, guess he was right!Theri had a much longer run than that and The movie went on to cross 200 crores in its worldwide collections.Here are some websites that support my statement. http://www.charminartalkies.com/beats-enthiran-theri-200-crores-club/ http://www.galaxyreporter.com/2016/05/theri-total-collections-theri-collections-beats-record-thuppaki-katthi-vijay.html Thank you! Arunkxip (talk) 17:06, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Arunkxip, please read our guidelines on reliable sources so that you don't keep basing your requests on insufficient references. We don't care what blogs have to say because anybody with an internet connection can start a blog and proclaim himself an expert. Both of these sources are blogs, and thus, they are insufficient. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:43, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Regarding Kabali collections

The producer uttered some words in the media about the Kabali collections as Rs 250 crores in Day 1, which is highly impossible according to number of screens, occupancy rate and ticket rates. It seems to be a marketing gimmick to attract more people to the cinema halls. The reference given for the Kabali collections http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/rajinikanths-kabali-smashes-all-box-office-records-earns-rs-250-crore-in-india-on-first-day/articleshow/53354457.cms itself contradicts in another reference by showing Day 1 collection as over 40 crores http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/rajinikanths-kabali-smashes-all-box-office-records-collects-over-rs-40-crore/articleshow/53347794.cms. So, please update the Kabali collections according to a consistent reference source like as given in http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/kabali-rajinikanth-second-day-box-office-collection-sultan-vedalam-review/1/722537.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.49.83.78 (talk) 07:50, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Its time to update the data, please refer http://www.financialexpress.com/photos/entertainment-gallery/334390/kabali-box-office-collections-at-over-rs-650-cr-rajinikanth-starrer-is-now-no-1-movie-in-india/ and get the update — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rkthik (talk • contribs) 14:04, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Kabali needs to be updated as 470cr (211 Cr domestic + 259 Cr overseas) based on the link. Excluded pre business from 650cr. http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/regional/rajinikanth-kabali-box-office-collection-rs-650-crore-leaves-salman-khan-sultan-behind/ Pradoblaze (talk) 12:37, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Except International Business Times, till now there is no other source says Kabali Crosses 600 Cr. All other sources which says this collection, stating source is International Business Times. So suspect is there. IBT says one day it fails to break Bhagubali and Sultan and after two days they expressed it broke all records. How is it possible to beat, even if the film is not performing well third weeks of its release. Now the movie is running less theaters due to new releases and it is not possible to beat blockbusters like Bhagubali and Sultan even those third and fourth week's collection is same like second week whereas it does not workout in Kabali. Please verify all data from liable sources. The same V Creations declared their earlier project Theri crossed 100 crores in four days but after that they did not say anything about the total collection and Wikipedia does not have even estimated total value of the film's lifetime collection. Now-a-days, saying the film crossed 100 crores in two or three days and it broke all previous records, etc is a market trick to promote the movie to run success in theaters. Kabali's pre-release business is around 200 crores included their BO records but it should not include as per calculation of BO business and that should be calculated in total business. Some sources provided about its fact related to prove the above description. Thanks.

http://www.bollywoodlife.com/news-gossip/rajinikanths-kabali-fails-to-break-salman-khans-sultan-baahubali-box-office-records/ http://www.ibtimes.co.in/kabali-breaks-baahubali-records-fails-beat-sultan-collection-records-overseas-box-office-687856#5JVcAXFBgvwbjcHl.97 http://www.ibtimes.co.in/kabali-breaks-baahubali-records-fails-beat-sultan-collection-records-overseas-box-office-687856#PtuJAhb0lo5G6J25.97 http://www.koimoi.com/box-office/kabali-all-versions-fails-to-beat-the-opening-day-record-of-bahubali/ http://www.hollybollybuzz.com/news-gossip/rajinikanths-kabali-fails-to-break-salman-khans-sultan-baahubali-box-office-records/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kabali kabali (talk • contribs) 10:11, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Here is Indian express saying that kabali crosses 650 crorehttp://indianexpress.com/photos/entertainment-gallery/rajinikanths-kabali-makes-rs-650-crore-at-box-office-5-baahubali-records-it-demolished-2961844/ Ganeshtvr.mech (talk) 19:49, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Ganeshtvr.mech, this has been addressed numerous times on this page. Nobody in their right mind believes that the film made 650 crore at the box office. You might want to familiarize yourself with some of the other sources before presenting a claim like that as a fact. Also, as a matter of general principle, slideshows aren't articles. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:42, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Kabali should be at first in overall indian grossers

Mahivaan (talk) 08:56, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

It beats the collection of pk,bahubali and bajrangi baijang Mahivaan (talk) 08:58, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 August 2016

Kabali is 2nd in the list of highest grossing Indian Films and not 12th, as the movie's collection stands at ₹677 crore. Thus, Kabali becomes the highest grossing Tamil Film of all time and not Baahubali. The proof for the same has been provided below. http://www.financialexpress.com/photos/entertainment-gallery/337249/kabali-box-office-collections-rajinikanth-starrer-rises-slowly-to-rs-677-crore-northern-collection-a-concern/5/

183.83.49.165 (talk) 12:34, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

References

Not done: See all the previous responses on this subject. 1) The value you are citing includes pre-release income that is never factored into a film's gross. We only care about box office receipts. 2) The high numbers reported by Financial Express were disputed by IBT and Firstpost. 3) We're not in any hurry to update the table as we are not a breaking news site. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:26, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Kabali Collection

Financial express stated that kabali has grossed over 650crs http://www.financialexpress.com/photos/entertainment-gallery/334390/kabali-box-office-collections-at-over-rs-650-cr-rajinikanth-starrer-is-now-no-1-movie-in-india/3/ Can you verify this and post it. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.207.181.55 (talk • contribs)

No. See all the previous responses on this subject. 1) The value you are citing includes pre-release income that is never factored into a film's gross. We only care about box office receipts. 2) The high numbers reported by Financial Express were disputed by IBT and Firstpost. 3) We're not in any hurry to update the table as we are not a breaking news site. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:29, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Kabali collections

Kabali collections reaches the highest collection of asia.. Mahivaan (talk) 08:59, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

 Not done - It's unclear what change you are requesting. We don't have a table for "highest collection of Asia". Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:29, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 August 2016

115.113.233.209 (talk) 19:15, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:19, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 August 2016

kabali earned around 680 cr. worldwide so it need to be put on 2nd in grosser list.

Comaman679 (talk) 09:39, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

References

Not done: For reasons explained numerous times on this page. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 10:28, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 August 2016 - Kabali

Update sec 'Global gross figures' to incorporate:

Rank	Movie	Year	Studio(s)/Producers	Language	Worldwide gross
2	* Kabali	2016	V Creations	Tamil	₹650 crore (US$78 million)

PS: Second reference at https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/280748

2404:E800:E609:189:E89B:7635:E83:7A2B (talk) 10:00, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

References

Not done: For reasons explained numerous times on this page. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 10:28, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 August 2016

No change

49.206.114.24 (talk) 12:53, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Done Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:30, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Source for Kabali 680Cr collections

Kabali's stated collections on the page appear to be improbable and the cited reference (http://www.dekhnews.com/till-today-kabali-box-office-collection/) is poorly written and does not appear to be a credible source. I feel it would be prudent to take down Kabali from all lists on the page until such time that its gross collections can be verified by multiple credible sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Retroflex79 (talk • contribs) 15:48, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Retroflex79 -  Done - I agree. Garbage reference. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:03, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Add highest grossing franchise and film series

somebody should add the the section of "highest grossing franchise and film series", open Highest grossing films and see the sample. Taniya94 (talk) 14:44, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Taniya94, why are US dollars the default currency for this table? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:07, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Cyphoidbomb, I don't know, I tried to convert it to INR but I failed. Can you help me to do it?? Taniya94 (talk) 09:01, 18 August 2016 (UTC)