Talk:Hideki Naganuma

Ollie King

Regarding Ollie King- it was definitely released in the States- I've played it at the Seattle Gameworks. It's even in English! Wndrby 10:04, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

How long he has been composing

I didn't think that the date (2001 - present) Was correct because He composed songs for the game Jet Grind Radio and that game was released on July 29th, 2000 so he must have been composing songs in early 2000 or even late 1999! So I changed the page to say that he has been composing since 2000.

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Re: the trans post

In other circumstances I would've been inclined to believe it, but Naganuma is constantly posting random things on social media to get reactions out of people. If it really is genuine, we should wait for a clarification (and we should in any case not be changing pronouns to something not confirmed by the person in question).--Alexandra^IDV 23:01, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

The first line had a leftover "her" from one of those older revisions that changed all the pronouns, I corrected it to be in line with the rest of the article 2003:C8:D74A:9D00:4D7F:74AF:22A5:74BB (talk) 19:17, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Structure of the Discography and Production credits sections

Reverting the two sections back to their state prior to the end of November for the following reasons:

• To provide distinction between albums that Naganuma has wholly composed, soundtracks he has contributed towards, and his original music and remixes not related to video games, as well as separating his musical works with his production credits;
• To bring the structure in line with other major sound designers and video game composers such as Hans Zimmer and Mick Gordon, both have their discographies structured similarly to this, and;
• A previous reversion noted "this one has tons of errors and inaccuracies" despite the ~20 references added in efforts to ensure its accuracy.

The structure and formatting can of course be modified to better suit the existing content, I simply believed that the old structure lacked distinction between Naganuma's various works and contributions, and took inspiration from others I have seen before, but reverting it all back to an old structure and ignoring all the additional citations the new structure added seems counter productive. Instead of reverting it straight back to the old structure and removing these sources, please consider restructuring and challenging potentially inaccurate sources by providing more accurate and reliable sources that can supersede or supplement them.

Kind regards - UnniKnox96 (talk) 01:08, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

First off, I understand your point about the lack of distiction between his works. This is a problem that plagues a lot of VGM composer tables on Wikipedia. Admittedly many of them, while accurate, are structured rather blandly and it's not the structure I would've come up with either. I just wanted to maintain consistency between other Sega-related composers like Jun Senoue and Tomoya Ohtani. In Naganuma's case, I didn't feel there was much point separating the main and additional composer sections because he hasn't served as lead composer for a large number of games.

The errors/inaccuracies/oddities I can note right now, which were not present before your edits:

• He did not compose for World Advanced Daisenryaku. The Wave Master profile states he only did music editing.
• JRA PAT appears twice. I think it can stay in the sole composer section if the game is only known to have one track.
• He only contributed one track to J.League Pro Soccer Club o Tsukurou! 3, which was previously posted on his music profiles until he took his Sega work down. The OST credits various other composers for this game.
• I don't think it's worth listing Sonic Generations because his tracks are either reused or remixed by other composers. Under that logic, Koji Kondo should be credited for every game the Mario overworld theme was reused/remixed in.
• He only did one track for Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz in 2006; the HD release shouldn't be listed since it's merely reused.
• Song titles shouldn't be capitalized per MOS:TMRULES. I personally disagree in the context of song titles, but I don't make the guidelines.
• His remix for Gin Tama was in 2006, not 2007.
• Jet Set Radio is listed as 1999 under the production credits section.

Apologies for removing all the sources, admittedly I wasn't paying enough attention to each individual source. That being said, VGMdb is not a reliable source per WP:VG/S, as it consists of user-edited content, so please don't use that. DrDevilFX (talk) 01:45, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

No worries, changes I've made per your suggestions:

• Moved World Advanced Daisenryaku to Production Credits, noting music editing (missed that in the source details sorry);
• Removed JRA PAT from "As Other" and kept in "Sole Composer";
• Removed Sonic Generations tracks, makes sense not to include every remix as you suggested;
• Changed Gin Tama to 2006, and;
• Changed Jet Set Radio to 1999.

Regarding the other points I think need a bit more discussion and clarification:

• I've left the J.League Pro Soccer Club o Tsukurou! 3 entry as is since I haven't been able to find a reference for that song in particular;
• From what I have gathered, he only composed the song Freezing Paradise for the Banana Blitz HD remake and wasn't present in the original, though he did allegedly contributed towards the original as a sound effects designer;

Something for the future as well is using the Template:Better source needed next to any VGMdb sources as you correctly pointed out. Hopefully we can replace these sources for better ones, otherwise the entries they are supposed to support may have to be removed.

Thank you for your time - UnniKnox96 (talk) 02:24, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing those errors. I meant that Jet Set Radio was mislisted as 1999 in that particular section when it came out in 2000.

And regarding those two:

• Found an archived SoundCloud link for "Get It 2 Win It": https://web.archive.org/web/20160403182855/https://soundcloud.com/hideki-naganuma/get-it-2-win-it-original-mastering. This is the only one he did for that game.
• "Freezing Paradise" was present in the original, see [1] (these uploads use unofficial titles FYI). He also had this one on his SoundCloud/YouTube as "Southpole (Winter Banana Pretz Mix)", see https://web.archive.org/web/20150725233800/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj2BF5SE4Ok. Not sure which title we should use, although previously Naganuma's one was used. DrDevilFX (talk) 02:57, 22 December 2021 (UTC)