Talk:Halo: The Master Chief Collection
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[edit]Just wanted to let you guys know that there's a typo in the Release section at the bottom of the page stating, "The day one patch will also be download ahead of time" just thought you should know and feel free to delete this if it doesn't belong here. Cheers! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.179.80.80 (talk) 05:26, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
- Done: This issue has been resolved; thank you! —zziccardi (talk) 06:26, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
DYK nomination
[edit]Halo 2: Anniversary
[edit]Re: diff @Ditto51, I'm hashing this out here since it has come up a few times already. In writing the current version of the article, no source has announced a Halo 2 Anniversary Edition as a separate entity or edition, though it may be colloquially referred to as such, in relation to Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary). When sources describe the games included, they predominantly refer to the four without the Anniversary appended because those are the core games included in the package, and that is how we should describe it. To refer to Halo 2 Anniversary being included is misleading since there is no Halo 2 Anniversary. However, every game in the package received a graphical upgrade (mainly to 60 fps/1080p), and Halo 2 received an "Anniversary-style" overhaul, which should be described as such (as it is in the article). But in the way the package is set up, it's not like HCEA and a new Halo 2 Anniversary were bundled together here, but that there are four games included, and the graphical versions of the first two game have Anniversary-style remasters. [1][2] czar ♔ 12:52, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
- It can't be brought separately, but it is Halo 2 Anniversary. They have stated that. Halo CE Anniversary is being used in place of Halo CE, and Halos 3 and 4 are only be tweaked slightly for 60fps and 1080p, Halo 2 is being completely re-skinned like HCEA. Halo 3 will still look similar, 2 will be completely different and allow you to toggle between the old graphics and the new.--Ditto51 (My Talk Page) 13:34, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
- Right—my point is that when describing the contents of the collection, we should be following the sources in saying it contains "Halo 2" instead of "Halo 2 Anniversary" since its Anniversary part is not a separate entity. Anyway, it's fine now as phrased. czar ♔ 13:55, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
- Surely we should be following the trailers which state "Halo 2 Anniversary"?--Ditto51 (My Talk Page) 08:52, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
- Actually, we follow what the reliable, independent sources say. There will be some instances where it will make sense to refer to Halo 2: Anniversary (e.g., the remastered H2 multiplayer mode, when compared to the non-remastered H2 multiplayer mode) but otherwise it makes more sense to call it the "remastered Halo 2 campaign" unless the sources change their talk and begin calling the discrete entity something with Anniversary in its title. czar ♔ 15:14, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
- Surely we should be following the trailers which state "Halo 2 Anniversary"?--Ditto51 (My Talk Page) 08:52, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
- Right—my point is that when describing the contents of the collection, we should be following the sources in saying it contains "Halo 2" instead of "Halo 2 Anniversary" since its Anniversary part is not a separate entity. Anyway, it's fine now as phrased. czar ♔ 13:55, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
I've just redirected Halo 2 Anniversary back to here. - X201 (talk) 08:26, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- Well I strongly believe that halo 2 anniversary should have its own article as we already know a lot about it.--BarsofGold (talk) 17:26, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- Given that much of the development info can be put here, the only real reason we should split the articles is if this one becomes too ungainly or reviewers start treating the two as separate entities (for example, giving H2A a review score and then the rest of the package.) Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 19:09, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
Why is bungie's name on Halo:MCC, when they were done with halo after reach?
[edit]IT Techhie! (talk) 03:51, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
- Likely because they were the original developers of games being remastered czar ♔ 04:20, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 22 September 2014
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There is one important distinction between the treatment that Halo 2 anniversary is getting and the Halo: Combat Evolved anniversary edition, and that is Stereoscopic 3D, which is included in the XBox360 version of Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary edition, but not included in the Master Chief Collection according to posts here:
https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postsm2978146_Will-3D-be-back-for-CE-A.aspx http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=121623298&postcount=5225
This could be an important distinction for people comparing the different editions. Thanks! JohnQDriveway (talk) 16:25, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Also, forums are almost never considered to be reliable sources, which are required for any addition to Wikipedia Cannolis (talk) 06:30, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
Day one patch size correction
[edit]Minor correction, but the current article says it is 20GB, but it is being reported as 15GB.
Sources: https://twitter.com/worthplaying/status/530218882217152516 http://www.engadget.com/2014/11/06/halo-xbox-one-day-one-patch/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.80.64.123 (talk) 13:41, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Done. Thanks for the notice. PS. you can sign you comments by using ~~~~ --Ditto51 (My Talk Page) 16:48, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
Additional work by United Front Games
[edit](First time editor/poster, so please forgive any mistakes in protocol) United Front Games did the Unified Frontend for the Master Chief collection. It wasn't widely publicized, but it's clear on the UFG website. This is a key component of the game as it ties together all four titles and multiplayer experiences. Please add "United Front Games (unified frontend)" to the Additional Work section.
Sources: http://www.unitedfrontgames.com/ufg-microsoft/ Bensulli (talk) 20:01, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
- Done
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Aggregate scores Aggregator Score GameRankings 89.52%[17] Metacritic 89/100[18] Review scores Publication Score Polygon 9.5/10[4]
Change Polygon to 8. It was updated to notate the currently broken matchmaking system, and is detailed in the bottom of the article.
http://www.polygon.com/2014/11/7/7076007/halo-the-master-chief-collection-review-xbox-one 208.190.224.200 (talk) 19:36, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
Content Clarification
[edit]I was wondering if anyone could clarify the article's description of exactly what game modes this collection contains. It's easy to understand that it contains all the campaigns, but I can't tell if every version of the original multiplayers are left intact, or if it's just the maps that are available in specific game's modes. For example, is one able to play multiplayer using the original Halo: Combat Evolved game physics? 198.150.44.106 (talk) 16:07, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- EVERYTHING was left intact plus there is also an additional multiplayer for the halo 2 anniversary maps.--Ditto51 (My Talk Page) 17:17, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
gamespot review
[edit]http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/halo-the-master-chief-collection-review/ it has to be added, the game got a 6/10.--Crossswords (talk) 06:22, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- Done: The review's score has been added; thank you! —zziccardi (talk) 06:33, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
Where's the Gamespot review at?
[edit]Is this why the article is locked???
- What? The article is locked to IPs because some kept on adding on PC to the platforms, not so that certain reviews won't be added. I don't understand the ratings table so I can't add it but I'm sure someone else can and will at some point soon.--Ditto51 (My Talk Page)09:27, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
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template, click that link to view its documentation and feel free to ask! —zziccardi (talk) 06:47, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
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Necessity of plot section
[edit]I just noticed that a large plot section has been added to the article, in addition to setting and characters. I find myself wondering why this article needs that content. We usually don't regurgitate content for remakes or ports of games, and as there's nothing substantial in development or reception that requires the plot content, I'm not sure what the justification for its inclusion is. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 19:06, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
- Where have you seen that? It should still have an overview of the plot. People may see Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary on the shelf in a store, look it up to get a better understanding of the plot (to see if they like it) before buying it, how can we expect them to navigate to the original game's page instead of finding the information for what they are looking for on the page they arrived at.
- And I wouldn't really say it is large, I think it is quite small considering that it is five games worth of plot condensed into what we would usually use for an entire game. PS. This is also why I put the See Also links at the top of the section so that people can go elsewhere and get the information they want.--Ditto51 (My Talk Page) 19:28, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
- Aiding one's buying decisions isn't really the point of Wikipedia; if they can look it up they can follow another link. This really isn't standard practice, especially for collections of games (cf. the majority of standalone articles in the video game remake list) and the whole reason Wikipedia justifies plot details is if they factor into the comprehension of the article; as there's no ancillary info that demands the regurgitation of the plot that is not discussed, there's no mandate to include it. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 14:06, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
- Either way, the plot section is needed. It is incredibly condensed considering it surrounds 5 games and we shouldn't have to make someone have to visit 5 different pages to get the plot of the game, the other pages that you keep referring to should also have a plot section because it makes no sense to make someone go to a different page for the plot. You wouldn't not put the plot of a film in because it is based on a book would you?--Ditto51 (My Talk Page) 15:55, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
- The film's plot is going to differ from the book's plot in some way, so that's not really a good comparison here. This article is about the compilation itself, which consists of five separate games that each already have their own articles that discuss their respective plots in detail. I haven't decided to side either way on this yet, but I am leaning in favor of Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs' position at the moment, especially if there's precedent in other game articles and/or discussions. You have made strides to keep the summary brief in this article, so that does help your cause, but I'm not sure any form of duplication is really necessary. --GoneIn60 (talk) 16:15, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
- Either way, the plot section is needed. It is incredibly condensed considering it surrounds 5 games and we shouldn't have to make someone have to visit 5 different pages to get the plot of the game, the other pages that you keep referring to should also have a plot section because it makes no sense to make someone go to a different page for the plot. You wouldn't not put the plot of a film in because it is based on a book would you?--Ditto51 (My Talk Page) 15:55, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
- Aiding one's buying decisions isn't really the point of Wikipedia; if they can look it up they can follow another link. This really isn't standard practice, especially for collections of games (cf. the majority of standalone articles in the video game remake list) and the whole reason Wikipedia justifies plot details is if they factor into the comprehension of the article; as there's no ancillary info that demands the regurgitation of the plot that is not discussed, there's no mandate to include it. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 14:06, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
Manual of Style
[edit]I have edited the platform listed as Xbox Cloud Gaming because in Manual of Style, it says to not include streaming services as a platform, any takers would be helpful to resolve this across other games also listing that, thankyou! StarStorm10 (talk) 18:38, 12 September 2021 (UTC)