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The result of the debate was Move to Formula One (Sega video game). There are a couple of precedents for this dab style; seems more intuitive than the producer name. If there's another F1 Sega video game, please relist. Duja► 11:11, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Formula One (computer game) → Formula One (Domark) — The current name is slightly misleading, as "computer game" usually implies a game played on a personal/home computer, and this game was never released for the PC. Using the publisher's name is more accurate for the subject, and it avoids confusion with other F1 games that have been released on PC. Majin Izlude ^talk 17:52, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Support move to something. There are quite a few computer/video games named "Formula One". 70.55.84.248 06:46, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support I am up for that. Also I like to add, there where in fact two listings for this game at one point and they were merged into this article. That's why the Domark name redirects here. Govvy 09:59, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Perhaps Formula One (Sega video game) would be more intuitive way of disambiguating than using the publisher? --Bobblehead 19:22, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Formula One (Sega video game) → F1 (Domark) — It would seem there is also a conversion of this game on the Commodore Amiga. Therefore the current Sega video game title would appear to be incorrect. AlexJ 16:34, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Support - Calling the game Formula One appears to be unique for the Genesis in the US. It's referred to as F1 in the Amiga version and all non-US Sega iterations. On a side note, there does appear to be another game called F1 - World championship edition that covers the 1994 season.[1] --Bobblehead ^(rants) 19:34, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Support - I will support this change. Govvy 21:37, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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This article has been renamed from Formula One (Sega video game) to F1 (Domark) as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 09:07, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You got it wrong.

This game was never realised with the title F1 it was always called Formula One. I was pretty sure it said "Formula One (Domark)" which is what is should be. Govvy 12:38, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It was released as F1 throughout most of the world. In the USA (and possibly other markets where products from the USA were imported) it was released as Formula One, with the F1 logo appearing smaller on the box. See [2]. AlexJ 13:43, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

okay, I got the United Kingdom one, which is the screenshot above. saying Formula One. So the part which says Formula One only in the USA is wrong. Govvy 14:59, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, no. The UK Genesis (MegaDrive) [3], Master System [4] and Amiga [5] covers all say F1. F1 was used throughout Europe. AlexJ 17:31, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Alex, you do know that F1 is only the short name, the full name was always Formula One, that was it's release name. This front cover was released in the UK. Govvy 15:45, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
File:Formulaone domark ntsc.jpg

I've also got a UK Amiga version, which is referred to exclusively as F1 and has the yellow cover. If you look at http://www.mobygames.com/game/f1/cover-art it shows that the red Formula One cover was only released in the USA. For the Master System, Mega Drive and Amiga UK releases (that's all platforms of the UK release) it shows the yellow F1 cover. Furthermore the cover you show there clearly states Genesis - there was no console called the Genesis in the UK. Looking in the manual the first mention of the game name is "All the colour, drama, thrills and speed of the Formula One circus have been included to make F1 the most breathtaking game you have ever played". In fact not once does my UK manual refer to the game as Formula One. AlexJ 16:28, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The red cover had a UK release also. F1 is just the short name for Formula One. The Genesis cover is in fact the later cover, the first release of F1 titled "F1" short, "Formula One" full name. Genesis covers were made and released in printing in the UK. Govvy 18:02, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I know F1 is short for Formula One generally, but this particular game as far as I can tell in it's UK release was officially called F1. That is what it's called at Mobygames, Classicamiga, Lemon Amiga, of Light, Sega 8-bit and Guardiana Mega Drive World. Unless you can provide a source that proves otherwise then F1 is what we must go with. AlexJ 22:49, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have online sources, I only have hard sources, Fact, packaging for games of Sensible Software, Domark as well as many others, UK distribution, the packaging for them were made by Petrushkin Ltd. Considering that I am of the Petrushkin blood line, I am telling you, all those sites are only naming the shortened name. The full name of the game is Formula One and always has been Formula One. Govvy 23:34, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And I'm telling you the official name is F1 in Europe and Formula One in the USA. The trouble is that this isn't going to get us very far and is probably original research. I checked three magazines (Amiga Power, Amiga Format and The One) all of whom again only call the game 'F1' in their reviews. Compare this to their reviews of Formula One Grand Prix by Geoff Crammond and the game is introduced in all three magazines with the full title before being shortened in the review body as F1GP. I find it very hard to believe that the official title was Formula One when no mention is made of it on either the box I have or any other UK boxscans online, on any in-game screenshots, in any magazine reviews or on any game catalogue websites. I'm going to ask for an external view on this because as it is neither of us are moving from our viewpoint. AlexJ 19:22, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What ever you say, all I can tell you and everyone is that F1 is the short form of Formula One. Logo's asides, it's clear what F1 stands for, but when pronouncing the full name, what do you get! Govvy 20:02, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

F1 stands for Formula One, but they are not one and the same as far as titles go. I have the UK Amiga and Mega Drive versions of this and both are called F1. There doesn't appear to be any reference to the title "Formula One" anywhere on the packaging or in the game itself. If "Formula One" was the real title it would have to be mentioned somewhere. The different names in Europe and America are probably due to the name having already been used for a game here. At least one game was released in the UK and Europe in the late 1980s that was already going by the name "Formula One". This would mean Domark were unable to use that exact title without the possibility of confusion (and even legal action!). This is what happened with the European SNES release of Starfox (there was already a game called that in Europe, released in 1987, so Nintendo changed the title to Starwing). So if there was no game called "Formula One" already released in the US there would be no problem with Domark using that name there, as they did, but that doesn't change the fact that the title in Europe and elsewhere was "F1". Miremare 21:58, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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PC?

This sounds very much like a F1 game I played on a DOS/PC (I came here with the search phrase "FIA Formula One Championship FOCA to Fuji Television f1 Domark") - possible or a mistake by me? - sry then! - regards --Gerlindewurst73 (talk) 22:55, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]