Talk:British Open Championship Golf
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Reference material
[edit]I have located the following material on this game:
Reviews
[edit]- PC Magazine
- PC Gamer US
- Next Generation Magazine
- Computer Gaming World
- Computer Games Magazine
- Electric Playground
- Telegraph-Herald
- Computer Shopper
- Dallas Morning News
- Fort Worth Star-Telegram
- Toronto Star
- San Diego Union
- Palm Beach Post
- Newsweek
- Sun Sentinel
- Fortune Magazine
Previews and other material
[edit]- http://web.archive.org/web/20000309232624/http://headline.gamespot.com/news/97_05/07_golf/index.html
- https://archive.org/details/MicromanaTerceraEpocaSpanishIssue37/page/n101
- https://web.archive.org/web/20000916005112/http://old.elecplay.com/feature/best97/best97-2.shtml
- McDonald, T. Liam (May 1, 1996). "British Open Championship Golf Preview". GameSpot. Archived from the original on August 18, 2003. Retrieved April 6, 2011.
- Staff (February 1997). "British Open Golf". Next Generation Magazine (26). Pg. 78.
- San Jose Mercury News
- Thief Developer Diaries
- McDonald, T. Liam (2000). "Game Theory". Maximum PC: 31.
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- Business Wire article
- News story
- https://web.archive.org/web/19980207215451/http://ogr.com:80/news/news0397.html
- https://web.archive.org/web/20010109060600/http://www.gamecenter.com:80/News/Item/0,3,0-574,00.html
- https://web.archive.org/web/20010103233900/http://gamecenter.com:80/News/Item/0,3,0-787,00.html
- https://web.archive.org/web/20010106231600/http://gamecenter.com:80/News/Item/0,3,0-823,00.html
- https://web.archive.org/web/19961220165136/http://www.next-generation.com:80/specials/121296.shtml
- https://web.archive.org/web/19980613210936/http://www.gamespot.com:80/features/golfsim/index.html
I'll add more here as I find it. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 00:36, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
GA Review
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Reviewer: Bridies (talk · contribs) 16:26, 9 November 2011 (UTC) Review to follow shortly. bridies (talk) 16:26, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
Review
Prose and layout
- Prose is good and comfortably meets the criteria. I did wonder whether it was necessary to describe the game of golf: you might want to consider ditching “a sport in which players attempt to hit a ball into a hole with as few strokes as possible” and just linking golf. Maybe.
- There were two reasons behind this decision: first, because I try to break a game down to its most basic core in the first sentence of Gameplay (see Flight Unlimited#Gameplay as another example); second, because I was copying the only other golf game GA, Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour. If you still think it should be removed, I'll take it out. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 15:56, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
- All right, let's leave it. I was really just casting about for a useful suggestion for the prose... bridies (talk) 05:09, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
- A couple of minor concerns with the ref section:
- I'm not sure that GameSpot and GameSpy should be italicized.
- I'm also wondering why the publisher in reference 18 is given as Game Developer rather than GamaSutra. I understand that the former is owned by the latter but can’t see Game Developer mentioned on the page.
- It's technically a postmortem that was reposted online after being featured in Game Developer, but I see your point. Fixed. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 15:56, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
- The same GameSpot review seems to be linked in both the notes and external links section and I think could be safely removed from the latter.
Accuracy/Sourcing
- Everything is attributed to a source. I sampled some of the direct quotes and the claim regarding the unique use of the St. Andrews course and they check out.
- My only concern is the claim that "it was generally well received by critics", attributed to a single article, is pushing WP:WEASEL. The article seems to be written by someone from the company which might also raise neutrality concerns.
- Hmmm. This is problematic, because there are no other sources for that (demonstrably true) sentence. As a defense for the neutrality of that source, I can say that Chey didn't work at Looking Glass when he wrote the article. He did work on BOCG as a programmer, though. Your call. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 15:56, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
- I was thinking of a direct attribution as with the other material in the reception section, which would nail it down as a writer's recollection. But yeah, it's borderline and doesn't go against the other content in that section. bridies (talk) 05:09, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
Coverage
- Has all the standard video game sections (I think it's a safe assumption an golf game doesn't need a plot section...) and information well-covered.
- It would be nice if more weight was given to the game's commercial failure, perhaps some commentary or speculation on why it was so badly received commercially. That said, I realise such commentary may simply not exist for an old golf game...
- I too would love to have this information, but sadly I don't believe that any citable material regarding it exists. I added a tiny bit more on the company's actions after its release, but I can't link them too directly to this game alone--most sources state that BOCG was only one element of the LGS financial crisis during this period. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 15:56, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
- OK, I think we can fairly say the article reflects the research. bridies (talk) 05:09, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
Stability
- No reverts in the last page of history.
Images
- Standard video game images with acceptable FURs. Also nice use of a free image.
Overall:
*On hold for now bridies (talk) 13:25, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
- Many thanks for the review. Replied inline. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 15:56, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
Passed. bridies (talk) 05:09, 11 November 2011 (UTC)