Talk:Brianna Wu

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Brianna Wu article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find video game sources: "Brianna Wu" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · TWL · NYT · WP reference · VG/RS · VG/RL · WPVG/Talk

Archives: 1, 2: 3 months

The subject of this article is controversial and content may be in dispute. When updating the article, be bold, but not reckless. Feel free to try to improve the article, but don't take it personally if your changes are reversed; instead, come here to the talk page to discuss them. Content must be written from a neutral point of view. Include citations when adding content and consider tagging or removing unsourced information.

This article is written in American English, which has its own spelling conventions (color, defense, traveled) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus.

This article was nominated for deletion. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination:

speedy keep, 3 August 2015, see discussion.
keep, 13 October 2014 (UTC), see discussion.

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography: Arts and Entertainment / Politics and Government

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by the arts and entertainment work group.
	This article is supported by the politics and government work group.

Video games: Indie Low‑importance

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Video games, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of video games on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Video gamesWikipedia:WikiProject Video gamesTemplate:WikiProject Video gamesvideo game articles

Low

This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

This article is supported by the indie task force.

Summary of Video games WikiProject open tasks:

Summary of Video games WikiProject open tasks

AfDs

Gilman Louie (1 participant)
Yoshimitsu (1 participant)
Dr. Wily (2 participants)
First Internet Backgammon Server (2 participants)
Emote (2 participants)
Stardew Valley Guidebook (2 participants)
Train simulator (disambiguation) (8 participants)
Preston Arsement (4 participants)
Jackpot World (3 participants; relisted)
Melee (game terminology) (6 participants; relisted)
Godzilla: Monster of Monsters (7 participants; relisted)
Godzilla 2: War of the Monsters (7 participants; relisted)

Merge discussions

Other discussions

No major discussions

Featured content candidates

Good article nominations

DYK nominations

Reviews and reassessments

Articles that need...

Women in Red

This article was created or improved as part of the Women in Red project. The editor(s) involved may be new; please assume good faith regarding their contributions before making changes.Women in RedWikipedia:WikiProject Women in RedTemplate:WikiProject Women in RedWomen in Red articles

United States: Massachusetts / West Virginia Low‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	Massachusetts portal This article is supported by WikiProject Massachusetts.
	West Virginia portal This article is supported by WikiProject West Virginia (assessed as Low-importance).

There have been attempts to recruit editors of specific viewpoints to this article, in a manner that does not comply with Wikipedia's policies. Editors are encouraged to use neutral mechanisms for requesting outside input (e.g. a "request for comment", a third opinion or other noticeboard post, or neutral criteria: "pinging all editors who have edited this page in the last 48 hours"). If someone has asked you to provide your opinion here, examine the arguments, not the editors who have made them. Reminder: disputes are resolved by consensus, not by majority vote.

WARNING: ACTIVE ARBITRATION REMEDIES
The contentious topics procedure applies to this page; any editor who repeatedly or egregiously fails to adhere to applicable policies may be blocked, topic-banned, or otherwise restricted. Note also that editors on this article are subject to a limit of one revert per 24 hours (with exceptions for vandalism or BLP violations). Violation may result in blocks without further warning. Enforcement should be requested at WP:AE.

Also, the article and this Talk page may not be edited by accounts with fewer than 500 edits, or by accounts that are less than 30 days old. Edits made by accounts that do not meet these qualifications may be removed. (Such removals are not subject to any "revert-rule" counting.)

The contentious topics procedure applies to this page. This page is related to gender-related disputes or controversies or people associated with them, which has been designated as a contentious topic.

Editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process may be blocked or restricted by an administrator. Editors are advised to familiarise themselves with the contentious topics procedures before editing this page.

This article should adhere to the gender identity guideline because it contains material about one or more trans women. Precedence should be given to self-designation as reported in the most up-to-date reliable sources, anywhere in article space, even when it doesn't match what's most common in reliable sources. Any person whose gender might be questioned should be referred to by the pronouns, possessive adjectives, and gendered nouns (for example "man/woman", "waiter/waitress", "chairman/chairwoman") that reflect that person's latest expressed gender self-identification. Some people go by singular they pronouns, which are acceptable for use in articles. This applies in references to any phase of that person's life, unless the subject has indicated a preference otherwise. Former, pre-transition names may only be included if the person was notable while using the name; outside of the main biographical article, such names should only appear once, in a footnote or parentheses.

If material violating this guideline is repeatedly inserted, or if there are other related issues, please report the issue to the LGBTQ+ WikiProject, or, in the case of living people, to the BLP noticeboard.

Archives

1, 2

This page has archives. Sections older than 90 days may be automatically archived by when more than 4 sections are present.

Edit request:

This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

Add to the end of the second paragraph of Career (though use discretion where exactly would work best if you disagree) that she is a trans woman, as she has recently identified as such on Twitter, satisfying typical WP:ABOUTSELF usage for identity matters. Her article should also be added to Category:American transgender writers and Category:Transgender women writers. Suggested wording:

She is a trans woman.^[1]^[2]

Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 04:14, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Wu, Brianna [@BriannaWu] (September 19, 2024). "I'm just gonna put this out there for Republicans to understand what the policies you advocate would mean for my life as a trans woman" (Tweet). Retrieved September 20, 2024 – via Twitter.
^ Wu, Brianna (September 12, 2024). "Trans influencer Brianna Wu weighs in on the presidential race and LGBTQ+ policies". The Hill (Interview). Interviewed by Robby Soave. 3:46. Retrieved September 20, 2024.

Done Elli (talk | contribs) 04:16, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request: Mentioning her strong Zionist/Pro-Israel advocacy

This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

I refrained from asking for this to be added to the article as this hasn't reached the news until rather recently, but Wu has spent most of the past year vocally supporting Israel.

https://www.thefp.com/p/brianna-wu-bari-weiss-gamergate-progressive-antisemitism-honestly

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2024/09/09/opinion/israel-hamas-war-progressives-antisemitism/

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2024/09/11/opinion/letters-to-the-editor-progressives-antisemitism-jews-war/

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/2024-06-02/ty-article/.premium/american-political-pundits-feud-on-social-media-over-israels-war-against-hamas/0000018f-d91e-dd44-a3ef-db1fa0df0000

https://www.newsnationnow.com/danabramslive/progressives-are-blaming-jewish-super-pac-for-losses-analyst/

Unreliable sources:

https://quillette.com/2024/09/25/podcast-252-trans-rights-israel-and-the-progressive-circus-2/

https://nypost.com/2024/09/10/opinion/progs-have-become-monsters-repudiate-joe-kamala-and-other-commentary/

I think it warrants a mention, as advocating for Israel and Zionism has been her primary activism for a while now. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 20:05, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@HadesTTW this isn't really an actionable request in this form. Is there particular wording you would like added to the article? Elli (talk | contribs) 23:52, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Elli How about this sentence in Career, after "She is a trans woman"?

Since the outbreak of the Israel–Hamas war, Wu received media attention for her vocal support of Israel. She has argued in The Boston Globe that "my fellow leftists are betraying our Jewish allies" and "the casual antisemitism I’d looked past in progressive spaces [are] impossible to ignore."^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]

And make sure to add the category "American Zionists." She identifies as such in the first article. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 00:05, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Wu, Brianna (2024-09-09). "I fear that progressivism has become the very thing we fought against". The Boston Globe. Retrieved 2024-10-31.
^ Fink, Rachel (2024-06-02). "Briahna vs Brianna: American Political Pundits Feud on Social Media Over Israel's War Against Hamas". Haaretz.
^ Abrams, Dan (2024-08-07). "Progressives are blaming Jewish super PAC for losses: Analyst". NewsNation.
^ Weiss, Bari (2024-10-18). "Brianna Wu Says She Didn't Change. The Progressive Movement Did". The Free Press. Retrieved 2024-10-31.

Done With a little bit of stylistic reorganisation. Since this is a contentious article, I'd be happy to revert on any disagreement. Happy‑melon 12:08, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request: Category changes

Please remove category [[Category:Video game development companies]], since this is an article about a person, not a company. I have already added the category to the redirect Giant Spacekat, the company in question.

Please add categories [[Category:American transgender women]] and per the previous section, [[Category:American Zionists]] and [[Category:Activists against antisemitism]] and [[Category:Opposition to antisemitism in the United States]].

Qualiesin (talk) 17:47, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do we have reliable sources that she's against antisemitism or only that she's a zionist? Those two things aren't the same. Simonm223 (talk) Simonm223 (talk) 12:58, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done, partially. I removed the video game company category. I don't see how the other categories suggested are valid, possibly the zionist one. See the discussion immediately above, which may shed some light. If sources don't characterize her as zionist or antisemitist, then neither should the category listings. ~Anachronist (talk) 19:41, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

From the Free Press article:

"We discuss Israel and why Brianna identifies as a Zionist."

She later explains in the video that she strongly supports Israel and uses the label "Zionist" for herself. She also has identified as such on Twitter.

https://www.thefp.com/p/brianna-wu-bari-weiss-gamergate-progressive-antisemitism-honestly

https://x.com/BriannaWu/status/1794497394626949490

HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 00:42, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I added the American Zionists category. ~Anachronist (talk) 01:22, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request 16 November 2024

This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

In the "Personal Life" section, uncapitalize "life" as it is not a proper noun. JeffSpaceman (talk) 11:34, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done ~ Amory (u • t • c) 13:12, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Wu, Brianna [@BriannaWu] (September 19, 2024). "I'm just gonna put this out there for Republicans to understand what the policies you advocate would mean for my life as a trans woman" (Tweet). Retrieved September 20, 2024 – via Twitter.

[2] Wu, Brianna (September 12, 2024). "Trans influencer Brianna Wu weighs in on the presidential race and LGBTQ+ policies". The Hill (Interview). Interviewed by Robby Soave. 3:46. Retrieved September 20, 2024.

[3] Wu, Brianna (2024-09-09). "I fear that progressivism has become the very thing we fought against". The Boston Globe. Retrieved 2024-10-31.

[4] Fink, Rachel (2024-06-02). "Briahna vs Brianna: American Political Pundits Feud on Social Media Over Israel's War Against Hamas". Haaretz.

[5] Abrams, Dan (2024-08-07). "Progressives are blaming Jewish super PAC for losses: Analyst". NewsNation.

[6] Weiss, Bari (2024-10-18). "Brianna Wu Says She Didn't Change. The Progressive Movement Did". The Free Press. Retrieved 2024-10-31.

[1]

[2]

[1]

[2]

[3]

[4]