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Ambali: Category 5?

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


This is quite the predicament the JTWC have us in. The ATCF file says 140kt, one track file says 140kt, and another track file says 135kt. https://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tcdat/tc2020/SH/SH032020/txt/trackfile.txt (135kt) https://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tcdat/tc20/SHEM/03S.AMBALI/trackfile.txt (140kt)

Anyone know what’s up? EBGamingWiki (talk) 01:31, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Since ATCF on NRL Monterrey site is the official value of the JTWC, please change to 140 kt Category 5. JavaHurricane (talk) 01:34, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

[1] has 140, [2] has 140 (and reads off some other ATCF source). Or we can remove 135 and 140 and wait an hour or two for the official warning.--Jasper Deng (talk) 01:35, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It’s probably 140kt since 135kt is only coming from one single location, while 140kt is coming from multiple. Better to stick with 140kt. EBGamingWiki (talk) 01:36, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

At this point y'all maybe should consider saying unknown strength on SSHWS because nobody actually knows what the official JTWC ruling is... ...Though, a majority of sources are calling for 140kt and satellite imagery is somethin' but... I dunno. Do what you want.

~ AC5230 (talk) 01:52, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody can exactly rule out that the intensity is C5-equivalent until the JTWC advisory comes out. Maybe if you guys just stayed a little more patient we could get some reliable info LATER. Is it really that hard? Hurricaneboy23 02:01, 6 December 2019 (UTC) — contribs)

@Hurricaneboy23: That does not answer the question of what we should do now.--Jasper Deng (talk) 02:11, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Use the 21z intensity and wait for the actual updates to come out. atomic7732 02:15, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Guess we got our answer though. Downed to 135. JTWC loves being wrong, sadly.--Jasper Deng (talk) 02:17, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Dude. They’re literally a meteorological agency. Their JOB is to provide accurate info. I’m pretty sure know what they’re doing. You’re just a single person. You don’t know everything. You can’t say they’re “wrong” just because you don’t agree with them. Hurricaneboy23 02:26, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
I happen to know enough about the Dvorak technique to have an informed opinion on this subject, and they can be (and often are) wrong. For example, in their post-season reanalysis they had to boost some intensities by as much as 45 knots at one single best-track point. I'm not insisting that my opinion take precedence over theirs in the article (that would be OR), so I don't see why you need to make a fuss over that. In any case, the purpose of this conversation has been served, so there's no use in further replies.--Jasper Deng (talk) 02:32, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The page I normally link to for current storm info still has 100 kn on it (looks outdated) [3]. Where did you find the latest info? funplussmart (talk) 02:30, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Funplussmart: What about those links in the initial comments by me and EBGamingWiki above?--Jasper Deng (talk) 02:36, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oh didn't see that. funplussmart (talk) 02:42, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

JTWC downgraded to C4 but I don't think that's anywhere CLOSE.... ~ AC5230 (talk) 04:17, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In JTWC max sustained winds is 135Knots now, so yeah should be cat 5 Wisang17 (talk) 05:07, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]


The JTWC really have been stupid this year. They've underestimated almost every major this year, the largest one being Hagibis. Doesn't surprise me they'd do it with Ambali. It's getting out of hand. EBGamingWiki (talk) 05:48, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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it makes no sense.....

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They go off of one ADT value to put Lorenzo at Category 5 status. But the satellite for Ambali supports a Category 5 and they say “That’s 155mph!” And they’re saying Lorenzo was a Category 5????? Really??? HurricaneNerd (talk) 21:30, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ambali article

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Cyclone Kyarr and Cyclone Ernie both have their own articles for their unusual intensity, but never did any damage. Ambali abides by a similar rule, and i could draft an article for it. May I? Hurricaneboy23 (Page) 05:43, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You might as well, Ernie and Kyarr didn't affect any places, so make one if you want. CyclonicStormYutu (Userpage) —Preceding undated comment added 12:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Is an article for Herold possible?

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Is a Cyclone Herold article possible? I mean, it was strong, and it will probably become notable in other ways soon. Chicdat (talk) 10:21, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Do ittttttttttttttt Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 12:44, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tropical Depression 12

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Hi there... it's Chicdat, and I've got a few questions for Meow (talk · contribs), the user who added the content about TD 12.

  • Why did you make the section empty other than an infobox?
  • You did not cite; what are your sources?
  • You say the storm entered the basin. Upon further investigation, the redlink was to the non-existing page Entered basin, which we ALL know is not a season.

My source: [1] 🐔Chicdat ChickenDatabase 10:12, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

Cyclone Gabekile: Misinformation much?

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This triggers me, the Metéo-France said Gabekile - A Category 1 on the Saffir-Simpson Scale - is an Intense Tropical Cyclone? This is madness, I won't be surprised if they put a Tropical Storm as an Intense Tropical Cyclone. CyclonicStormYutu (Userpage) —Preceding undated comment added 12:59, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@CyclonicStormYutu: At the end of the day Meteo France estimated the 10-min windspeeds at 90 kts after post anaylsis, which makes it an intense tropical cyclone. Meanwhile, the JTWC has estimated 1-min winds of 70 kts before post anaylsis has taken place, which as you say is a Category 1 on the SSHWS. I would personally put more faith in Reunion's estimate as it has been best tracked, whiel the JTWC wont BT it for several months yet and were busy dealing with several TC's including 4 tropical cyclones of varying intensity impacting the Samoan Islands.Jason Rees (talk) 15:47, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Jason Rees: Ok, I misunderstood that. Thank you for clarifying. CyclonicStormYutu (Userpage)