Talk:2012–13 Australian region cyclone season

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Season Summary

ID	Dates (ACST)	TC Name	TCWC	Original Basin	Source
03U/05F	2012-12-28	Freda	B/N	South Pacific	BOM Database
04U	2012-12-28	Mitchell	P	Indian Ocean	BOM Database
05U	2013-01-07	Narelle	D/P	Indonesia	BOM Database
07U	2013-01-18	Oswald	D/B	Carpentaria	[1]
08U	2013-01-21	Peta	P	Indian Ocean	TCR
10U	2013-02-22	Rusty	D/P	Indian Ocean	BOM Database
11U	2013-02-22	-	P	Indian Ocean	[2]
13U	2013-03-07	Sandra	B	Coral Sea	BOM Database
14U	2013-03-10	Tim	D/B	Carpentaria	BOM Database
15U	2013-03-21	-	P	Indian Oc.	[3]
17U		Victoria	P	Indian	BOM Database
18U		Zane	B	Coral Sea	BOM Database

Location of Advisories

Tropical Cyclone Three Day Outlook Jakarta \\ Perth \\ Darwin \\ Brisbane

Tropical Cyclone High Seas Warning Jakarta \\ Perth 1 \\ Perth 2 \\ Darwin \\ Brisbane

Tropical Cyclone Technical Bulletin Perth 1 \\ Perth 2 \\ Darwin \\ Brisbane

Main Pages Jakarta \\ BoM \\ JTWC

ABIO10 STWA \\ ABPW10 STWA

JTWC 1 \\ JTWC 2 \\ JTWC 3

Running Best track

03U

Unsurprisingly per TCWC Brisbane's Sat fixes 03U is Tropical Depression 05F, and i have thus added it to the article in the form of an Other Systems section. I would strongly recommend that we keep it like this since it looks like what will become Freda will not move into the region or if it does move in then it will be out within 48 hours. However if the situation changes then we can review it.Jason Rees (talk) 12:07, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If it is named west of 160ºE, what should we do? -- Meow 16:26, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I personally think for now we should keep it to the other storms section, since TCWC Brisbane and RSMC Nadi say it is likely to be out of the region within 24 hours. But again this just a recommendation we will see what happens when it happens.Jason Rees (talk) 17:14, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Storm Dates

I was curious as to when we should list the date of Mitchell as. The reference included to the section at the moment has it as December 26, but that was when it was below Tropical Low status. The first technical advisory was issued on December 28. So which date should be used to identify when the cyclone was active? Supportstorm (talk) 06:00, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

28 December, as this article is only for tropical cyclones. -- Meow 08:44, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A weak low is usually just a weak tropical low, they just dont like using the word tropical at times.Jason Rees (talk) 09:11, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So it would count. It just seemed to me that we would treat anything before a public advisory as similar to invest in other basins. Anyway thanks for the clarification. Supportstorm (talk) 09:39, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Narelle's intensity

Narelle has been downgraded to a cat 4 TC in the immediate aftermath.Jason Rees (talk) 15:25, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tropical Low Numbers

Since Peta was designated as 08U by the BoM, wouldn't the December 9 Tropical Low be 01U, the December 18 low 02U, and the January 15 storm 06U? (Narelle was 05U and Oswald was 07U, so this is probably true.) 72.197.241.195 (talk) 23:44, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As logical as it may seem, we cannot make our own conclusions as to the designation of storms. This would breach the no original research of Wikipedia so I had to remove it. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 15:12, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oswald article

Should we give Oswald an article or should we just stick with the Queensland flooding article even though the NT and NSW were also affected by Oswald.Jason Rees (talk) 15:33, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think the floods article should be moved to an Oswald article, with MH, normal article stuff. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:17, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Totally agreed. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane

Comment: This (at least the existing pages name: 2013 Queensland floods) is also being discussed at Talk:2013 Queensland floods#What do we do about northern NSW?, where I have suggested "2013 Eastern Australia floods", perhaps that is a better venue? - 220 of ^Borg 11:33, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Im happy for it to be discussed where ever, though i did want to try and keep the conversation to one place.Jason Rees (talk) 15:19, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Though the floods were the main part of it, there was more to that than Oswald. The damaging winds and tornadoes did some damage, too. It was more than just floods.

I'm leaning towards splitting the TC Oswald section of this article into into a separate article and merging 2013 Queensland floods into that. Especially since the flooding has now spread to NSW. Dbromage [Talk] 02:31, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oswald needs its own article, as it is notable. ST✪12 02:16, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Other storms

Can we please be careful and only put what we know to be a tropical low and possibly Fina in this section, i note that not every low that is monitored within BoMs TWOs are tropical.Jason Rees (talk) 17:21, 2 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

New Storm

Do we count Subtropical Lows? Because one of them has formed off the northeastern coast of Queensland. 72.197.241.195 (talk) 01:00, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Both BoM and JTWC do not designate subtropical cyclones, so we can’t count. -- Meow 19:30, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Peta

Despite peaking with 10-minute sustained winds of 45 kn (85 km/h; 50 mph), Tropical Cyclone Peta has been downgraded to a tropical low by the BoM during post-season analysis per this Tropical Cyclone Report.Jason Rees (talk) 16:31, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]