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Locations of advisories

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IMD:

Main: Chief Meteorologist Feature and Forecast \\ Bulletin \\ Discussion/Outlook \\ Track \\ IMD website Shipping Bulletin \\ All India weather report
Other: Shipping Bulletin (1, 2) \\ Alternative Outlook \\ Archives

JTWC

Other: Storm 1 \\ Outlook \\ TCFA \\ Best Track
Archives: JTWC (WTIO PGTW)

No storms. Least active

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The IMD website clearly says that. A situation like this has never been seen before. This will clearly be the least active, and the first inactive tropical cyclone season in known history...! --Anirudh Emani (talk) 05:25, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Source? and remember we cant add the speculation in.Jason Rees (talk) 13:57, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The Wikipedia article on all monitored NIO seasons clearly says a situation like this has never been faced before. --Anirudh Emani (talk) 14:02, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
We cant rely on all of the monitored NIO seasons to be correct though - and looking through the IMD BT it appears that 1993 may not have had a storm before November.Jason Rees (talk) 14:10, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Until November, then.. :P --Anirudh Emani (talk) 15:28, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Lets see, my mind says something big will happen :P Rishabh Tatiraju (talk) 14:44, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A small bit of news

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A small bit of news in a slow season. Pakistan Meteorological Department in its recent weather advisory (Issued on the 2nd of September) has suggested that in the next couple of weeks we might see something significant in the Bay of Bengal.
Quote: Met Office informed that Bay of Bengal, major feeder of monsoon currents, has become active and two weather systems are expected to develop in Bay of Bengal in next couple of weeks that would produce widespread rains in South Asia. Monsoon currents of moderate intensity are expected to penetrate continuously over upper parts of Pakistan in next couple of days that will grip most parts of Punjab & KP during mid week and Sindh & Eastern Balochistan during the weekend. The intensity of monsoon currents is very likely to increase from mid week. PMD Bulletin Looking at the latest advisories issued it seems the first of the weather system was much northerly, hence in-land and not a potential cyclone material, but if the predictions are correct then another system should form in the coming weeks, which might be the one to kick-start the season. Badkhan (talk) 12:52, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, IMD does have a bad habit of issuing advisories on inland systems. They call it Land Depressions. So it is possible that the system inland can start the already way below normal season. --Anirudh Emani (talk) 14:07, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well, perhaps it is due to the rare uncanny resemblance of these in-land systems with cyclonic systems, for example if one is to look at the satellite pictures of the current weather system hovering over the Deccan plateau, one might mistake it for a cyclone with a quite visible spiral binding, but more importantly, in the past these 'Land Depression' have been known to generate (or regenerate) into cyclones once crossing the plateau. So maybe the term 'Land Depression' is somewhat erroneous but it is not that illogical to start issuing advisories on these systems that are judged to have the potential to become cyclones. Especially considering that the Arabian sea is smallish body of water hence cyclones here often do not give enough time to prepare and predict like the Cape Verde Hurricanes do, and even then, American meteorologist do keep an alert eye over the tropical waves forming over West African savannah. Badkhan (talk) 08:33, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly! There is just not enough time to forecast/understand tropical cyclones in the North Indian Ocean. Probably, that's the reason not much is known about the way storms form in this region. So it is important to focus more on any potential system and issue advisories on these as they may develop into tropical cyclones as soon as they enter the water bodies. The system is located very close to the west Indian coast at the moment. If the system enters the Arabian Sea, it may become a tropical cyclone. So lets just wait and see. --Anirudh Emani (talk) 09:43, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No storm season

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There's no need for a crapy source! Just look! No storms yet! LOL if this season is totally out of storms! Hey, imagine, a cyclone season with no storms. This looks like the first one in recorded history!-- ✯Earth100✯ ☉‿☉TalkContribs 12:36, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry but there is every need for a source saying that there have been no storms yet this season since encyclopedic content must be verifiable and wikipedia is not a reliable source. However if anything bar the NRL RBT can be found, i will be surprised.Jason Rees (talk) 21:30, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's a comment, not a request for the above satement.-- ✯Earth100✯ ☉‿☉TalkContribs 10:32, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mine was a comment in response to your one, reminding you off the rules of WP.Jason Rees (talk) 12:46, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well, i don't know who made the page, but i think it's crazy.-- ✯Earth100✯ ☉‿☉TalkContribs 12:55, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

BOB 01

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I see it added on the 2012 North Indian Ocean Cyclone Season page despite the fact that links were to only source on it being confirmed as a depression. It remained being called 94B Invest by everyone else. It needs to go back to 0 storms.--Playerstroke (talk) 01:01, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Actually since the IMD are in charge here, BOB 01 is counted as a weak TC.Jason Rees (talk) 01:54, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The IMD is the official warning center as per the World Meteorological Organization, so we use them as the official source for storms in the North Indian. — Ines(talk) 11:44, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(Playerstroke (talk) 02:31, 19 October 2012 (UTC))I am curious to see what happens in the next two months because if we see only 3 or 2 depressions this year then I believe it would make it the least active cyclone season recorded worldwide with satellite data.[reply]

Tropical storm activity will increase as we reach the withdrawing stage of Monsoon. We just had Murjan, and we have a trough of low that may become a Low Pressure Area soon. Rishabh Tatiraju (talk) 11:09, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Names of North Indian Ocean Cyclones

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The article 2012 North Indian Ocean cyclone season state under para on Storm Names "The next six names from the list of North Indian Ocean storm names are below. Murjan, Nilam (unused), Mahasen (unused), Phailin (unused), Helen (unused), Lehar (unused) How can Murjan be in the next six? Ugaap (talk) 18:16, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have added the caveat as of the start of 2012, though i cant see the point of the names remaining post January 1.Jason Rees (talk) 20:10, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It would be better to keep the next six unused names instead of the caveat as of the start of 2012.Ugaap (talk) 21:41, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The above issue has not been resolved. We should have the next six unused names. In the article on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_North_Indian_Ocean_cyclone_season we have names starting from Mahasen. Both the articles should have similar formats.Ugaap (talk) 15:20, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The thinking behind the naming sections is always to have all the names used in a season and not just the next six unused names. Also the 2013 season will start with whatever name is next on the list at the end of 2012.Jason Rees (talk) 16:49, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Well...3 storms did form so far, however this was an extremely, late starting season.-- ✯Earth100✯ ☉‿☉TalkContribs 13:01, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hope we find a source.. a damn source.. so that we can mention it in the article. --Anirudh Emani (talk) 12:09, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

yeah i agree.-- ✯Earth100✯◕‿◕ Talk Contribs 15:02, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Convection crossover to Bay of Bengal

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Someone need to correct the article on NILAM for date of crossover of area of convection to Bay of Bengal as 24th October instead of 23 October.

A usable reference needs to be found for the convection crossover.Jason Rees (talk) 01:50, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Do we have a usable reference for 23 October? the track map for 93W.INVEST has the timings of crossover.Ugaap (talk) 03:14, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Id rather see a written reference for the convection crossover full stop, otherwise we will have to remove it and hope that the IMD says something in Nilams TCR.Jason Rees (talk) 03:24, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It could be removed till we get the written reference for crossover.Ugaap (talk) 03:47, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Above issue has not been resolved. Please help.Ugaap (talk) 15:19, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I will take it out later when i update the article with the IMD's prem reports.Jason Rees (talk) 05:33, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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