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Invitation to help improve and translate in other languages 16 biographies about African women

In the run up to International Women’s Day on the 8th March, Wiki Loves Women is launching the on-Wikipedia translated drive #16WikiWomen : m:16 African Women Translate-a-thon

The idea is for Wikipedians to take 16 days to translate the Wikipedia biographies of 16 notable African women, into at least 16 languages (African and/or international languages).

The articles to be translated will be the biographies of African women. The list of language can be, but is not limited to:

International languages: Arabic, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, German
African languages: Akan, Afrikaans, Igbo, Hausa, Wolof, Tswana, Zulu, Xhosa, Shona, Swahili, Yoruba, Sudanese, Amharic, Tsonga, Ewe, Sesotho, Chichewa

The list of the 16 women biographies that will be translated are:

w:en:Malouma, a Mauritanian singer, songwriter and politician
w:en:Nozizwe Madlala-Routledge, a South African politician.
w:en:Cri-Zelda Brits, a South African cricketer
w:en:Anna Tibaijuka, a Tanzanian politician and former under-secretary-general of the United Nations
w:en:Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti, a Nigerian women’s rights activist
w:en:Flora Nwapa, a Nigerian author who writes predominantly in Igbo
w:en:Samia Yusuf Omar, a sprinter from Somalia
w:en:Maggie Laubser, a South African painter
w:en:Fatima Massaquoi, a pioneering educator from Liberia
w:en:Frances Ames, a South African neurologist, psychiatrist, and human rights activist
w:en:Asmaa Mahfouz, a Egyptian activist. The best version is currently in Arabic : w:ar:Asmaa Mahfouz
w:en:Yaa Asantewaa, the legendary former Queen Mother of Ghana
w:en:Fatou Bensouda, a Gambian lawyer
w:en:Martha Karua, a Kenyan politician
w:en:Chinwendu Ihezuo, a Nigerian professional footballer
w:en:Nassima Saifi, a Paralympian athlete from Algeria

Please jump in! Whilst all those articles already exist in English, you may improve them... or you may translate them into another language you know, or you relay the project in other linguistic communities.
If you wish to participate, please feel free to add your name and any comments here : m:16 African Women Translate-a-thon/participants
Results will be tracked on this page : m:16 African Women Translate-a-thon/tracking

Thanks

Anthere (talk) 10:44, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Invitation to Women in Red's Role Models editathon on Women's Colleges

Please forward this invitation to all potentially interested contacts

Welcome to... Role Models meetup and online editathon

Facilitated by Women in Red
Help us to spread the news

8 March 2017: In-person meetup at Newnham College, Cambridge University
Whole of March: worldwide multi-language online edithon for all
Focus: Notable women from women's colleges and related institutions
Inform your communities of the need for their support.
Contribute in English or in your own language

Apologies for cross-posting and sending in English
(To subscribe: Women in Red/English language list and Women in Red/international list. Unsubscribe: Women in Red/Opt-out list)

--Ipigott (talk) 13:16, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Featured list candidate: Feedback requested

List of international goals scored by Abby Wambach is currently a featured list candidate seeking additional feedback before it can be passed. All of the previously submitted comments for improvement have been incorporated. Please consider taking a look and adding a comment of support (or suggestions for improvement) to Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of international goals scored by Abby Wambach/archive1 so the review can be completed. Thanks. Hmlarson (talk) 01:49, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Day Without a Woman

Project members and page watchers are invited to help expand ~~Draft:Day Without a Woman. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:45, 2 March 2017 (UTC)~~ Day Without a Woman. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:52, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

WP Women Musicians

Has any project covering women musicians been considered, or is there a better established alternative? Daphne Lantier 08:24, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi there, Daphne Lantier. Good question! While there WikiProjects for various women's "occupations", e.g. artists, writers, scientists, there isn't one for women musicians. You and/or someone could create it, or Women in Red could facilitate a women musicians editathon. --Rosiestep (talk) 22:49, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

@Rosiestep: Starting a whole new project sounds daunting for someone inexperienced like me, but I think that's the right way to go. The project would have plenty of high level articles like Lady Gaga and Nicki Minaj. Overall there would be a lot of articles. I'll have to look into just how hard it would be. Daphne Lantier 23:46, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Ade Abayomi Olufeko inquiry (How can a deleted article be retrieved?)

Ade Abayomi Olufeko is a Nigerian American who happens to be a Technologist, Designer and Entrepreneur. He was recently interviewed by Vanguard http://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/03/future-considerably-female-ade-olufeko/ on International Women Day where he shared great insights on his works in empowering women.

Kindly advice on how to retrieve his articles deleted here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ad%C3%A9_Olufeko — Preceding unsigned comment added by WaleFam (talk • contribs) 10:53, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Fearless Girl statue

To commemorate International Women's Day, I invite project members to help expand the newly-created article, Fearless Girl. Happy editing! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:17, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Slightly expanded the article ... and then created an article for her sculptor, Kristen Visbal. PamD 15:58, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

GAR

Members of this project might be interested in Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Demi Lovato/1. Snuggums (talk / edits) 01:10, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

RfC on merger proposal toward Nilüfer Demir

The discussion Talk:Death of Alan Kurdi#Proposed merge with Nilüfer Demir is still ongoing. I invite you to comment. --George Ho (talk) 21:20, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

How do I add articles to the project?

I'm working on two drafts about women (Draft:Marisha Ray and Draft:Ala'a Basatneh) and I've been wondering. How does one go about adding pages to the WikiProject? And by that I mean, how do I add that big notice box to the talk page announcing that a page is part of the project? (for future reference)-- Alex (talk) 00:11, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

@Soyalex: Just edit the article talk page and add {{WP Women}}. If it's a biography, also add {{WP Bio}}. PamD 09:12, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

International Women's Strike

Editors are invited to assist with expanding the International Women's Strike stub. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 20:27, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Nevertheless, she persisted

Should there be a Wikipedia article for the phrase, "Nevertheless, she persisted"? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:12, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Done. See Nevertheless, she persisted. Great minds think alike! (Or is it that Fools never differ?) Cheers! — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 11:41, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Nevertheless, she persisted is now in DYK prep area 5, tentatively to be on Main Page April 30/May 1, depending on time zone. It has not yet been assessed. Any reviewers available? Cheers! —

Question re: AFD started by sock

Does anyone here know if there any kind of policies for what happens to an editor's contributions after s/he who has been confirmed as a sockpuppet? The Alis Rowe AFD was started and flooded with arguments (see also WP:STONEWALL) from a confirmed and now-banned sockpuppet, but the AFD remains open. Hmlarson (talk) 16:56, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

April events at Women in Red

Welcome to Women in Red's
April 2017 worldwide online editathons.
Participation is welcome in any language.

"Psychology"

"Book Artists"

"CEE Countries"

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March Against Hate

Resolved

Project members are invited to participate in the AfD discussion re: Portland Women March Against Hate. I've expressed an interest in moving the article to March Against Hate, and expanding its scope to cover more than just Portland. I welcome editors to either contribute to the ongoing discussion or help expand this article's section for other cities. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:18, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Lisa Kemmerer

Would someone from this WikiProject would mind taking a look at Lisa Kemmerer and assessing it? Article was moved directly to the mainspace by its creator, who is a SPA and may have a COI, Neither of these mean the article should be deleted, but the sources currently cited are not really sufficient for establishing notability per WP:BIO or WP:PROF. Googling her does get a number of hits, but not many seem to be significant coverage. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:54, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Upcoming "420 collaboration"

You are invited to participate in the upcoming

"420 collaboration",

which is being held from Saturday, April 15 to Sunday, April 30, and especially on April 20, 2017!

The purpose of the collaboration, which is being organized by WikiProject Cannabis, is to create and improve cannabis-related content at Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects in a variety of fields, including: culture, health, hemp, history, medicine, politics, and religion.

WikiProject Women participants may be particularly interested in the following category: Category:Women in cannabis.

For more information about this campaign, and to learn how you can help improve Wikipedia, please visit the "420 collaboration" page.

---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:15, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

RfC on the WP:ANDOR guideline

Hi, all. Opinions are needed on the following: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#RfC: Should the WP:ANDOR guideline be softened to begin with "Avoid unless" wording or similar?. A WP:Permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 23:06, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Press contact

Hi there. I am writing a piece about women and wikipedia for a leading news organisation and would like to get a quote from a core member of your team. Could you contact me on lilysilverton@gmail.com many thanks! Lily LilySilverton (talk) 15:15, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

@Rosiestep and Megalibrarygirl: did y'all see this? SusunW (talk) 15:24, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Hello LilySilverton. Thanks for reaching out. I've sent you an email. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:12, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Woot! How awesome, SusunW! Thank you for emailing, Rosiestep. :D Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:32, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Well, I am still hoping we can create a relationship with the press to get them to cover women in a manner similar to how they cover men. To do that, we can never pass up an opportunity to create networks and engage ;) SusunW (talk) 16:36, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

@SusunW and Megalibrarygirl:, exactly! --Rosiestep (talk) 18:48, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Well I am always excited to see someone in the journalism field working on this. Currently we only have Gender bias on Wikipedia and there are very few other Wikipedia languages that have been able to make an article on this subject survive. It would help if a) more than just English Wikipedia is referenced and b) more than just the fact that Wikipedia has a gender bias (it does, but no bigger than the rest of society - the biggest issue is gender bias in sources). Jane (talk) 15:44, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

May 2017 at Women in Red

Welcome to Women in Red's
May 2017 worldwide online editathons.
Participation is welcome in any language.

"Organizations"

"Sports"

"Pacific islanders"

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Rape in Kashmir Insurgency

Dear all, we need urgent input from this project at Talk:Rape in Kashmir Insurgency. See especially my comments at the end. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 10:13, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi, Kautilya3, thanks for bringing it to our attention. I've tried to add to the article and I saw another member of this project do so, only to have our edits reverted. In light of the discussion, it seemed to make sense to add additional references, so that it's clear that the article passes GNG and is not a fork. My references were from Times of India and New York Times and did not seem to have any particular POV bias.

The reverting editor claims that "The page is the subject of a POV-fork dispute; Sorry you cannot add anything to it, until dispute is resolved." I've never run into such a claim before. Normally, I do AfD discussions and often am able to help with the discussion by actually adding to the article. If I'm in the wrong, I need to know. Anyone else ever run into this in a POV-fork discussion? Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:11, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

When I opened an edit page of the article just now, there were 2 notices, one that it is semi-protected so only autoconfirmed editors may edit (through May 28), and another on the discretionary sanctions applied to any edits applied to pages on India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan, along with a prohibition in bold against more than one revert per 24 hours. The official notes say nothing about a POV-fork dispute. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 18:39, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Thank you both for your input into the discussion. There was originally a move request filed (i.e., a proposal to retitle the page). One of the senior editors that came to provide input decided that the page should be merged instead, and has since been blocking all edits to the page. Frankly, I am surprised with his attitude. Let me ping Anthony Appleyard who was monitoring the original move request to see if he can offer any help in this regard. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 19:22, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

I notice that the senior editor has withdrawn from the page. Anthony, problem resolved for now. Sorry for the false alarm. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 19:33, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for following up, Kautilya3! :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 00:21, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Article alerts

Is there a way we can ensure articles tagged with the Women's sport project are included in the article alerts for WP Women? Thomai Kezios is an example that is tagged with Women's sport but won't show up in WP:Women alerts unless tagged with WP:Women. Hmlarson (talk) 21:17, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

Hello,
Please note that Yolanda Saldívar, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of Today's articles for improvement. The article was scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Today's articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing!
_{Delivered by — MusikBot ^talk 00:05, 15 May 2017 (UTC) on behalf of the TAFI team}

RfC on citing significant relationships in BLP

A Request for Comment has been created on this talk page. Input is appreciated. Lapadite (talk) 01:31, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Popular pages report

We – Community Tech – are happy to announce that the Popular pages bot is back up-and-running (after a one year hiatus)! You're receiving this message because your WikiProject or task force is signed up to receive the popular pages report. Every month, Community Tech bot will post at Wikipedia:WikiProject Women/Archive 10/Popular pages with a list of the most-viewed pages over the previous month that are within the scope of WikiProject Women.

We've made some enhancements to the original report. Here's what's new:

The pageview data includes both desktop and mobile data.
The report will include a link to the pageviews tool for each article, to dig deeper into any surprises or anomalies.
The report will include the total pageviews for the entire project (including redirects).

We're grateful to Mr.Z-man for his original Mr.Z-bot, and we wish his bot a happy robot retirement. Just as before, we hope the popular pages reports will aid you in understanding the reach of WikiProject Women, and what articles may be deserving of more attention. If you have any questions or concerns please contact us at m:User talk:Community Tech bot.

Warm regards, the Community Tech Team 17:16, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

An image of Jill Saward at DRV

The deletion of File:Jill Saward BBC interview 2013.png is challenged at WP:deletion review, where I invite you to improve consensus. --George Ho (talk) 10:37, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

June 2017 offerings @ WikiProject Women in Red

		Welcome to Women in Red's June 2017 worldwide online editathons.
		File:Nefertari.jpg "Met artwork by women" "LGBTQ women & Wiki Loves Pride" "Pre-20-century women"

(To subscribe: Women in Red/English language list and Women in Red/international list. Unsubscribe: Women in Red/Opt-out list) --Rosiestep (talk) 20:47, 24 May 2017 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Help prove notability (hopefully)

Of Florence Gabrielle Abiola Adeniran. I tagged it for prod due to notability concerns, but after the creator asked on my talk page, I took a second look, did some c/e, and since this is borderline topic of much interest to our systemic bias projects (African doctor, claims of first Nigerian doctor, etc.) I bring it here. Can you help find better sources? Can someone provide screenshots of the Life/Time issue in question? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:31, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Dispute about feminist philosophy journal

There's a dispute about a feminist philosophy journal at WP:AN. It's specifically about what kinds of sources are regarded as RS for the inclusion of women's names, in case anyone is interested. See here. SarahSV ^(talk) 02:57, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

The dispute at AN is about an admin's behaviour. But anyone wanting to comment on the content dispute is welcomed to bring the topic up at WT:JOURNALS, although I would advise people to read read WP:JWG and User talk:Randykitty#A request for background. It is specifically not about women's names, it is about whether or not academic journals articles should list the editorial board's members. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 03:01, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Category deletion discussion that may be of interest to some of you

Howdy. Through my film and tv editing stuff, I became aware of this Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 June 6#Category:Female characters in television. It seemed like a category in which your project might cross paths with the tv project and I thought some folks might want to comment. Cheers. Millahnna (talk) 15:55, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for this, Millahnna. We obviously need to maintain these categories, in addition to all the other categories we have on women. Not too long ago, Category:Women translators was deleted as a result of a discussion like this, causing me days and days of recategorization!--Ipigott (talk) 10:43, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

Hello,
Please note that Alice Bah Kuhnke, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of Today's articles for improvement. The article was scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Today's articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing!
_{Delivered by — MusikBot ^talk 00:05, 19 June 2017 (UTC) on behalf of the TAFI team}

July 2017 at Women in Red

Welcome to Women in Red's July 2017 worldwide online editathons.

File:60C0074BA4FF-1 Джемма Халид.jpg

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RfC: Current sporting seasons > Football (soccer) 2017

A request for comment has been initiated related to the inclusion of women's football/soccer leagues in the Current Events portal. Input is welcome:
Portal talk:Current events#RfC about Current sporting seasons > Football (soccer) 2017 Hmlarson (talk) 21:58, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Terrayne Crawford

The article Terrayne Crawford has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted after seven days unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp/dated}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 09:52, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

RfC regarding the WP:Lead guideline -- the first sentence

Opinions are needed on the following matter: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Lead section#Request for comment on parenthetical information in first sentence. A WP:Permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 05:21, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

TFAR for Jennifer Lawrence

There is a request for Jennifer Lawrence to be featured on the main page for her upcoming birthday on August 15th. See Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Jennifer Lawrence for more. Would prefer responses sooner rather than later. Snuggums (talk / edits) 20:18, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Featured article candidate: Mia Hamm

The Mia Hamm article is currently a featured article candidate. Feedback is appreciated: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Mia Hamm/archive1. Thank you. Hmlarson (talk) 16:59, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Nina Godiwalla

I found Nina Godiwalla at CSD, tagged by a drive-by IP, and removed the tag with a note to take it to AFD. The article has issues on sourcing, but I think it should be discussed before being deleted. — Maile (talk) 15:41, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

Revised enough to remove advert tag; added sources to most statements. Still has 3 cn tags, but I've run out of time to work on it. Cheers! — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 19:39, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. I believe the article has been saved from future attempts to delete it. — Maile (talk) 22:17, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your efforts here. I am often surprised that editors who nominate articles for deletion fail to follow the instructions to first check (step D) whether reliable sources are available... especially "drive-by IP" editors, as you noted. Thanks for taking the extra time to salvage this article, especially considering it had considerable cruft and no sources when we started today! Cheers. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 23:05, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

Galina Dodon

Galina Dodon, first lady of Moldova is up for deletion. There are a lot of sources, but they are all in Russian (?) and Google translate mangles them for me. I can't tell if she's notable or not. If anyone's fluent, please take a look. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 00:39, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Women in Red's new initiative: 1day1woman

Women in Red is pleased to introduce...
A new initiative for worldwide online coverage: 1day1woman

Create articles on any day of any month
Cover women and their works in any field of interest
Feel free to add articles in other languages, too
Social media hashtag campaign: #1day1woman

(To subscribe: Women in Red/English language list and Women in Red/international list. Unsubscribe: Women in Red/Opt-out list) --Rosiestep (talk) 03:00, 28 July 2017 (UTC) via MassMessaging

August 2017 at Women in Red

Welcome to Women in Red's August 2017 worldwide online editathons.

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A new WiR initiative starting in August

Introducing...
WiR's new initaitve: 1day1woman for worldwide online coverage
Facilitated by Women in Red

Create articles on any day of any month
Cover women and their works in any field of interest
Feel free to add articles in other languages too

(To subscribe: Women in Red/English language list and Women in Red/international list. Unsubscribe: Women in Red/Opt-out list) --MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:50, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Advice on cosmetics

Does anyone here know about any guidelines or essays that give advice on writing and sourcing articles specifically on cosmetics?

I'm somehow involved in a dispute about whether a peer-reviewed review article in an academic journal is good enough to say that a given oil is used in shampoo. The main argument against the source appears to be that the source expresses enthusiasm for the oil. I'm left feeling like someone's decided that chemists can only know whether an ingredient is used in shampoo if they don't like the ingredient. It's very weird. WhatamIdoing (talk) 07:15, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Request for comment: WP:NFOOTY guideline

A request for comment is open regarding a proposed change to the WP:NFOOTY guideline here: RfC: Proposal for WP:NFOOTY guideline. Input is welcome. Hmlarson (talk) 22:44, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Jill Cohn

Would someone from this Wikiprojet take a look at and assess Jill Cohn? It was prod deleted a couple of years ago, but has just been de-prodded after a contest by someone claiming to be Cohn herself. If it can be saved, then fine; otherwise, AfD might need to be considered. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:46, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Caly Bevier

hi, have just added Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Caly Bevier to the Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Women, i know Bevier has WPWomen on her talkpage so was already picked up in the project alert list but anyway would like to apologise for having missed her. Coolabahapple (talk) 03:56, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Rachel Parent

Hi, i have just (rather cheekily:)) added Rachel Parent to the Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/00 as expanded (i really just did a bit of a cleanup), i came across the article at afd here - Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rachel Parent, as the article didn't have a talkpage with relevant projects, it does now, thought i would give you a heads up. Coolabahapple (talk) 16:19, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for doing so, Coolabahapple. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:01, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Adding WikiProject Women's health

I hope no one minds but I would like to include WP:WikiProject Women's health as part of WikiProject Women. Let me know if this is unacceptable. Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 19:43, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Barbara (WVS), yes, absolutely. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:59, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Is there a mailing list or is most communication done here on the talk page? Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 20:05, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Barbara (WVS) I think if you just add your project to the affiliates template on the project page you will create the association, but I am not in the least Wikitechnical. Totally support your adding the Women's health project as an affiliate. SusunW (talk) 20:57, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Barbara (WVS), there's no mailing list, so the conversations take place on this talkpage. You can add WikiProject Women's health here. Also, if you wish, you can become a member of WikiProject Women. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:10, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you! And I will add my name to the project member list. A new topic-Another editor and myself have come up with a search template that quickly finds references related to any (notable) topic. I would like to put it on talk pages, perhaps ones that are identified on the project page. It's already used on thousands of talk pages already so it isn't something new. I think you will be very pleased. I have been able to create articles in just minutes because of this template. I will come back and post more information on how it works and how it helps find references and content. Best Regards, Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 22:40, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

September 2017 at Women in Red

		Welcome to Women in Red's September 2017 worldwide online editathons.
		"Hispanic and Latina Women" "Women in the Olympics" "Women from New Zealand"

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--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 21:19, 28 August 2017 (UTC) via MassMessaging

ISO 4 redirects help!

{{Infobox journal}} now features ISO 4 redirect detection to help with the creation and maintenance of these redirects, and will populate Category:Articles with missing ISO 4 abbreviation redirects. ISO 4 redirects help readers find journal articles based on their official ISO abbreviations (e.g. J. Phys. A → Journal of Physics A), and also help with compilations like WP:JCW and WP:JCW/TAR. The category is populated by the |abbreviation= parameter of {{Infobox journal}}. If you're interested in creating missing ISO 4 redirects:

Load up an article from the category (or only check for e.g. Women's studies journals).
One or more maintenance templates should be at the top of page, with links to create the relevant redirects and verify the abbreviations.
VERIFY THAT THE ABBREVIATION IN |abbreviation= IS CORRECT FIRST

There are links in the maintenance templates to facilitate this. See full detailed instructions at Category:Articles with missing ISO 4 abbreviation redirects.
|abbreviation= should contain dotted, title cased versions of the abbreviations (e.g. J. Phys., not J Phys or J. phys.). Also verify that the dots are appropriate.
If you cannot determine the correct abbreviation, or aren't sure, leave a message at WT:JOURNALS and someone will help you.

Use the link in the maintenance template to create the redirects and automatically tag them with {{R from ISO 4}}.
WP:NULL/WP:PURGE the original article to remove the maintenance templates.

Thanks. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 13:27, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Gonna @The Vintage Feminist: on this. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 04:39, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

For what it's worth I've never used any of that to find an abbreviated title. I usually go to advanced search then type in the journal title in the top box (selecting "Title: All (KTIL)" from the drop down menu) and in the next field put the ISSN number (selecting "LCCN-ISBN-ISSN (KNUM)" from the drop down menu). I then add limits "Type of Material = Periodical or newspaper".

That then gives me the LCCN entry, such as this one with abbreviated title, then I add capitals, full stops (period) and remove commas. Which in this case would be J. Phys. A. Math. Theor. which is what NCBI seem to have it as too (link). I may leave it to people who know more about it. --The Vintage Feminist (talk) 10:32, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

There are other ways of getting the ISO abbreviation sure, but the LTWA is the authoritative source. This morning, a user also developed a small script/website here which we'll be making use of very shortly. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 11:11, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

@The Vintage Feminist: the automated tool is live now. It's not perfect, but it's good in 95% of cases. Take a look at any articles missing ISO redirects (you might have to WP:PURGE the page first however). Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 12:56, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Whenever I create or expand a journal article I'll try and track down any missing ISO abbreviations. --The Vintage Feminist (talk) 19:02, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Mostly thinking about those you already created. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 19:18, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Uma Thurman stalking case

Hi, all. Opinions are needed on the following matter: Talk:Uma Thurman#Request for comment. A permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 17:45, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

Proposal to rename WikiProject Women's sport or create new WikiProject Women in Sports

I have created a proposal to rename WikiProject Women's sport (or create new WikiProject Women in Sports w/ new WikiProject format). Input is welcome: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women's sport#Proposal to re-name this WikiProject to WP Women in Sports. The proposed change encompasses women who work/play in sports (not just women's sport) such as broadcasters, officials, coaches of men's teams, etc. In addition, there are numerous cases like Holly Neher (currently nominated for deletion) who plays on a high school American football team and has received worldwide news coverage, but doesn't play in a women's league/team. Hmlarson (talk) 16:37, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Adding women athletes to article alerts for WP:Women

I would like to submit a bot request for EarwigBot (see 14 WikiProject tagging) to tag articles tagged with {{WikiProject Women's sport}} with the {{WikiProject Women}} tag so that articles about women athletes and women in sports appear in the article alerts for WikiProject Women when they are nominated for deletion. Here is a current list Wikipedia:WikiProject Women's sport/Article alerts (although I have manually tagged WP Women on most if not all).

The bot request requires a discussion at the project before proceeding with the request. If there is an alternative method for ensuring the women in sports articles are included in the WP Women article alerts, let me know.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hmlarson (talk • contribs) 7:22 am, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Support Hmlarson (talk) 06:22, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
Support I don't really have a problem with having a larger audience and more eyes looking at articles which are nominated for deletion. SusunW (talk) 14:06, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
Support --Rosiestep (talk) 20:01, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Against In the past we had specifically said Do Not add a WikiProject Women tag to articles that already have WikiProject Women's sport. Check the old discussions as i will be removing these additions. Fyunck(click) (talk) 01:52, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Can you provide links to the previous discussions you're citing Fyunck(click)? Per the discussion here, they're being tagged so that articles about women athletes and women in sports appear in the article alerts for WikiProject Women. Or did you have a suggested alternative? Hmlarson (talk) 02:03, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

"WikiProject Women's sport" is more specific and does the job well. There is no reason to add the less precise "WikiProject Women" to all these hundreds of articles. Just because it is not showing up on article alerts for "WikiProject Women" is not a good reason. Either have the editors that care also check the "WikiProject Women's sport" article alerts, or figure out some way to forward those alerts to "WikiProject Women." As to where it was located... if it wasn't here then it was on your talk page, since I do believe the discussion had you in it. Fyunck(click) (talk) 02:09, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Here's one of the discussions. If an article is already tagged with "WikiProject Women's sport" we do not add less specific tags. Just because you don't get alerts is not a good reason for tagging. Fyunck(click) (talk) 02:14, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

And I looked at another discussion from a year ago where two administrators explained it to YOU. So your memory on this is not the best. I went though and specifically made sure on many many articles that if it was tagged with "WikiProject Women's sport" (which all women's tennis articles should be tagged), then the WikiProject Women tag was removed. This bot destroys that work based on multiple discussions and now I have to fix what it has done. @The Earwig: It now needs to be run so that if it finds a "WikiProject Women's sport" tag, that it removes any "WikiProject Women" tags. Fyunck(click) (talk) 02:24, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Redrose64, BU_Rob13, Magioladitis, Rebbing, Maplestrip, Cirt would you be willing to weigh in on this? I see more recent discussions in 2016 related to requests like these that you contributed to. Thoughts? Hmlarson (talk) 02:31, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Female Viking Warrior

I don't know if there are any Game of Thrones fans of Lady Brienne of Tarth here, but there is a story going viral since this weekend about a Swedish viking warrior grave that contains a female skeleton based on recent DNA findings. I uploaded the grave sketch by the initial archaeologist, but maybe there is enough for an article about the gravesite? I don't speak Swedish, so can't help. Jane (talk) 10:54, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

I read a finnish news article about this just recently. It was very interesting. link(finnish). A short summary & quick translation of the beginning:

Sweden's most notable Viking warrior was a woman after all - "She had most likely planned and lead battles"
For over a century, archeologists and historians have assumed that a Viking corpse discovered from a grave together with weapons and horses was a man. The grave discovered from the Viking era city, Birka is one of the most notable graves of a Viking warrior in Sweden. A study published in the American Journal of Physical Anthropology reveals that recent bone and dna tests have pointed out that the Viking warrior who was most likely a war chief is, in fact a woman.
"The corpse is in fact, a woman a little over 30 years old and quite tall, about 170 centimeters archeologist Charlotte Hedenstierna-Jonson from Uppsala University tells The Local magazine.
Perfect warrior equipment was found in the grave. A sword, an axe, armor piercing arrows, a fighting knife, shields, two horses and also a board game.
She carried a board game on her hips. Or more likely it was a war game which could be used to test fighting tactics and strategies. It implies that this was an notable war chief. She had most likely planned and lead battles, says Hedestierna-Jonson.
The grave was discovered in the 1800's by archeologist Hjalmar Stolpe. According to modern scientists it is without a doubt one of the best grave sites ever found belonging to a Viking warrior. Because the war equipment found in the grave in the 1800's was thought to be very masculine it was assumed without any testing/research that the corpse belonged to a man. Some years ago, bone researcher Anna Kjellström from the Stockholm University started studying the bones in relation to another study. She soon noticed that everything was not how it seemed. The corpse's cheek bones were thinner than men's usually are and the hips were typical female hips. Kjellström's additional tests to the bones supported the theory that the remains belonged to a woman so the research was continued.
Now a dna test done to the remains has undisputably proven that the Viking warrior was a woman.

Sorry for the shitty trans, I'm in a rush. Waiting to hear more about this. Hopefully English articles will follow. Dinosaurseatpancakes (talk) 15:18, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Oh and the links(doh): A female Viking warrior confirmed by genomics and Viking warrior found in Sweden was a woman, researchers confirm . Why did I even translate that lol, oh well! Need a break. Dinosaurseatpancakes (talk) 15:23, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Wow nice work! I noticed Birka is there as a site, but this specific gravesite should have its own page now - indeed with those links as a start. I was hoping for some link to the original diary of the 19th-century and then with the a link to the updated DNA analysis. I am not up with archaeology article policy, so it's not something I would dive into normally. Jane (talk) 16:27, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

We now have Birka female Viking warrior. This Guardian article claims the point is not that she is a warrior, but the way this story took so long to be taken seriously because of systemic bias in archaeology (!!!!) Jane (talk) 17:01, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

RfC: Should the WP:TALK guideline discourage interleaving?

Opinions are needed on the following matter: Wikipedia talk:Talk page guidelines#RfC: Should the guideline discourage interleaving? #2. A permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 20:45, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Women in Red October editathon invitation

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Project Proposal: Investigating the Impact of Implicit Bias on Wikipedia

Hi Friends! Here is the current draft of my project proposal: Investigating the Impact of Implicit Bias on Wikipedia. I value your input and would greatly appreciate your feedback. Please share it on the project proposal discussion page. Thank you in advance! Best, Jackiekoerner (talk) 04:16, 27 September 2017 (UTC)