Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spirits/Archive 1

WikiProject Spirits Created

On the 28 December 2008 I created this project, WikiProject Spirits. Lets hope it works!

Cabe 6403 ^{(Talk•Sign!)} 16:43, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Me too. -- MISTER ALCOHOL ^T ^C 13:41, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

New Portal, Drinks

I have created a new portal for the beverage community. While the Beer and Wine projects have their own specialized portals, the rest of the Drink WikiProjects do not have their own portal to call their own.

It is here. Please be warned, it is still a work in progress and is not fully populated.

I would gladly welcome the assistance of the members of this project in getting it up and running.

--Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 07:34, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll help. -- MISTER ALCOHOL ^T ^C 13:31, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Template Tagging

I'm going to see if I can find a bot to tag all the articles within the Category: Distilled beverages as they all fit under our scope.

Cabe 6403 ^{(Talk•Sign!)} 21:01, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As Cabe6403 mentioned, AnomieBOT has been asked to tag all articles in Category:Distilled beverages and all subcategories with {{WikiProject Spirits}}. AnomieBOT has already been approved to do things like this, as long as the WikiProject affected approves of the list of categories to be processed. At first glance, the list of categories looks OK to me with the exception of Category:Distilerias Serrallés and Category:Distillation; in fact, I would say Category:Distilled beverages should be a subcategory of Category:Distillation instead. Also, I have a few questions:

Articles will be automatically assessed as "stub" if they are in any category ending in "stubs". Is this acceptable, or should this be turned off?
The bot can also automatically assess disambiguation pages and redirects (and set importance=NA), it can leave them unassessed, or it can not-tag them. Which do you prefer?
Do you want non-article pages tagged, for example images, templates, categories, and so on? All will be also marked with an appropriate assessment class and importance=NA. A list of namespaces is at WP:NS#Basic namespaces.
Transclusions of {{WPSPIRIT}} will be replaced with {{WikiProject Spirits}} when the page is edited. This may happen for example if the page already has {{WPSPIRIT}} but the bot can auto-assess it.

Please reply with any comments or questions, and answers to the above questions. Thanks. Anomie ⚔ 22:53, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have corrected the issue, Category:Distilled beverages is now a subcategory of Category:Distillation instead of the other way around. I believe that you can now tag the articles as such.--Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 01:22, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say let the bot do it's autoassessing for stubs, disambigs and redirects. If possible could the bot tag non article pages too. Sound good? Cabe 6403 ^{(Talk•Sign!)} 12:25, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Probably... -- MISTER ALCOHOL ^T ^C 13:41, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Hello folks, I notice that the bot has tagged all articles in Category:Fortified wine as this category was placed in Category:Distilled beverages. Is this as intended? I would probably consider spiritis as a raw material for e.g. Sherry rather than Sherry as a spirit, but it's entirely up to you. Hello from WP:WINE, Tomas e (talk) 21:33, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think articles such as Sherry should be covered under our scope since it is made with distilled spirits. Thats my view on it anyway, a product containing distilled spirits such as Port which is essentially distilled wine. Opinions? Cabe 6403^{(Talk•Sign!)} 18:16, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Y Done 958 pages tagged: 55 categories, 6 files, 896 articles, and 1 template. Anomie ⚔ 13:30, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Spirits thanks you

Noilly Prat untagged. As the bot cannot read, it will not have not have known that Noilly is neither a spirit nor a distilled product, and neither does it contain any spririt or distilled ingredients. I suspect this is true of all vermouths, so someone ought to look at those as well. Emeraude (talk) 17:26, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WP:SPI

With the merger of WP:SSP and WP:RFCU to create Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations, there has been discussion about what to use as a shortcut. Unfortunately, SPI is taken by this project, and SPI would fit perfectly with the new sockpuppet page. Because the SPI redirect is hardly linked to, and it makes much more sense for sockpuppet investigations than SSPI (the current redirect), could this shortcut be dissociated with this project? X clamation point 01:23, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think it to be a good idea, WP:SIRITS, WP:DBEV (Distilled beverages), or WP:STILL are all good choices. Any one else? --Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 02:01, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've taken the liberty of relinking WP:SPI to the sock puppet investigation page and also linked WP:SPIR to us. --Cabe 6403 ^{(Talk•Sign!)} 03:02, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Glengoyne Distillery GA Review

An editor has taken up the task of GA reviewing Glengoyne Distillery. Can all spirits members keep an eye on it and try fix any issues that may arise in the aloted timeframe. Cheers!

Cabe 6403 ^{(Talk•Sign!)} 12:15, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Citation lacking on Speyburn page

On the page for Speyburn single malt Whiskey, the author says that Speyburn is currently the 9th best selling Single Malt Whiskey in the United States. However, the author does not provide any citation for this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.22.217.180 (talk) 23:32, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinators' working group

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I'd like to take the position of coordinator for this wikiproject. Anyone have any objections or other thoughts in the next 24 hours just post a reply to this. Cabe 6403 ^{(Talk•Sign!)} 10:53, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Since it seems no one has any objections then I'll assume the de facto role of project coordinator though I use the term in the loosest way possible. Every member of this project has an equal say.Cabe 6403 ^{(Talk•Sign!)} 14:51, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A class discussion

Currently the discussion on A class articles is under way here. I've voiced a few opinions and mentioned as a small project we don't really have the resources to run proper A class reviews. Other spirits members are encouraged to contribute.

Cabe 6403 ^{(Talk•Sign!)} 14:54, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Glenmorangie 10 Yrs

Can I say that the Glenmorangie 10 Yrs and the Glenmorangie Original 10 Yrs old is the same product? —Preceding unsignedcomment added by 210.193.5.225 (talk) 17:39, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If they are the same product with different names then I don't see why not. Just say that it is also known as x. Check they are the same with a little research on the intertoobs first -- Cabe 6403 ^{(Talk•Sign!)} 18:55, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Removal of references from List of liqueurs

See Talk:List of liqueurs, and comment there if you wish. Badagnani (talk) 02:30, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have commented on the discussion -- Cabe 6403^{(Talk•Sign)} 12:49, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Stolnaya vodka

This article has been nominated for deletion. As it stands I feel it may well be deleted, but I feel there is scope for the article to be rewritten to save it. Is there anyone here willing to give it a go? I wouldn't have a clue where to start with this one, so I thought it may be best to ask you guys! Jenuk1985 | Talk 15:58, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This article was, in the end, saved thanks to contributions by WikiProject Spirits members, good job guys! Cabe 6403 ^{(Talk•Sign)} 12:07, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

History of Rum

I'm thinking of creating and then FAing History of Rum, as the base article is very, very big, and my book only really covers the history in detail. Any objections? ResMar 23:57, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No objections here

I think its a great idea. Give us a shout when you get round to it and we'll give you a hand. Also, consider adding yourself to the wikiproject spirits member list -- Cabe 6403 ^{(Talk•Sign)} 11:41, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would gladly peer review the article for you to help bring it to GA status, as I have done before in the past with other articles (Odwalla, now FA). A quick read just now revealed some issues that will be needed to addressed before either nomination can be put forth. The article does have great potential. --Jeremy (blah blah) 16:19, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Does your WikiProject care about talk pages of redirects?

Does your project care about what happens to the talk pages of articles that have been replaced with redirects? If so, please provide your input at User:Mikaey/Request for Input/ListasBot 3. Thanks, Matt (talk) 02:23, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GA Sweeps invitation

This message is being sent to WikiProjects with GAs under their scope. Since August 2007, WikiProject Good Articles has been participating inGA sweeps. The process helps to ensure that articles that have passed a nomination before that date meet theGA criteria. After nearly two years, the running total has just passed the 50% mark. In order to expediate the reviewing, several changes have been made to the process. A new worklist has been created, detailing which articles are left to review. Instead of reviewing by topic, editors can consider picking and choosing whichever articles they are interested in.

We are always looking for new members to assist with reviewing the remaining articles, and since this project has GAs under its scope, it would be beneficial if any of its members could review a few articles (perhaps your project's articles). Your project's members are likely to be more knowledgeable about your topic GAs then an outside reviewer. As a result, reviewing your project's articles would improve the quality of the review in ensuring that the article meets your project's concerns on sourcing, content, and guidelines. However, members can also review any other article in the worklist to ensure it meets the GA criteria.

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Ratings and awards

Should Wikipedia articles about specific liquors include a comprehensive list of awards? Is that better handled in an external link to some other website? If you have an opinion about the appropriateness of links like this one, please stop by the external links talk page and let us know your thoughts. WhatamIdoing (talk) 05:35, 21 July 2009 (UTC) (who is not watching this page)[reply]

Cut brandy or brandy blend?

I did notice that the article cut brandy is within the scope of this WikiProject. Is there really an English word "cut brandy"? I'm German and English isn't my mother tongue, but I doubt this! Here are my reasons why:

1. It seems to me that "cut brandy" is a faulty translation of the German word Weinbrandverschnitt! Weinbrand is the German word for brandy, but the German term Verschnitt has diverse meanings: blending, blend, waste material, cut, or clippings.

2. At least Google says the English translation of Weinbrandverschnitt is brandy blend. see: http://translate.google.com/translate_t?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&text=fehlerhaft%0D%0A&sl=de&tl=en#de%7Cen%7CWeinbrandverschnitt%0A

3. My most important reason is this textbook: http://books.google.com/books?id=xteiARU46SQC&pg=PA931&dq=brandy+blend Quote: Brandy to which alcohol is added is designated as a brandy blend or adulterated brandy. (see: 20.3.2.3.1)

It's of course possible that "cut brandy" simply is a synonym, but I wasn't able to find any sources to prove that hypothesis. Well, what is true? Should that article be renamed?95.89.154.162 (talk) 01:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Naming conventions (cuisines)

This is the proposed naming convention on cuisines that has been percolating for some time, I would like to request all members to please take a look and comment on its talk page. This is a very important rule set that needs to be decided upon, if you wish to establish or please comment under the appropriate section. --Jeremy (blah blah •I did it!) 07:28, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Article topics/focus, and consistency in Whiskey/Whisky articles

The articles on specific whiskys, and their distilleries, are wildly inconsistent. This is especially true with the Scotch whiskys, but may also be true with other spirits and breweries. The problem is that some articles are about the distilleries, some are about the whisky itself, and others are about the product line of whiskys from the distillery. Some attempt to combine two or more of these.

Most importantly, article leads need to be explicit about what topic they are covering. Undoubtedly discussion of the product lines of a distillery/company is a part of that article (or vis versa), but the lead should be clear about which it's covering. Here are a few examples

Ardbeg - About a distillery. Example of a clear, concise lead and focus.
Dalmore Single Malt - Unclear if it's about the whisky or distillery. First and second paragraphs are at odds. Also needs formatting cleanup.
Dallas Dhu (distillery) - A distillery article about the distillery, but no corresponding article about the product (should be renamed to Dallas Dhu if there is no competing article of the same name.
Glen Ord Distillery a redirect target of Glen Ord - A distillery article.

There are many others. I would like to help clean some up, but I'd like to have some feedback on the best way to focus these articles. In most cases, is the assumption that the distillery is the article focus, with sections for product lines, etc.? This would seem to be the most common approach, and would seem too, to match with things like the infobox title, etc.

Curious to other's thoughts on a cleanup project. Shadowjams (talk) 05:12, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would agree that we should have the distilleries as the main article focus. There should only exist a page for a specific product if that product is in someway notable enough for it's own page.-- Cabe 6403 ^{(Talk•Sign)} 10:24, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Problem with Category:Distilerias Serrallés

Hello: This category's name is not correct. The correct name would be Category:Destileria Serrallés.

The problem is that there are not several, but one only; thus it should not be plural in Distilerias.

A second problem is with the spelling. Whoever (apparently someone better versed in English more than Spanish) created the category apparently meant to give it the official Spanish name of the corporation, namely Destileria; but mispelled it (there is no official English name).

To be entirely correct, the name should be Category:Destilería Serrallés, with the second "i" accented (i).

I don't know how to "move" a category (maybe I just can't as a plain editor with no other rights), so I am asking for help from someone who can move it.

Thanks, Mercy11 (talk) 00:43, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know for sure about whether it's possible to move a category. I think they can redirect, but since there probably isn't much of an edit history that's probably not important. If you create the new category, spelled correctly, I will go through the pages with that category and recategorize them to the new name.

If you do create the new category, then drop me a line here or on my talk page and I'll do the AWB work for you. Shadowjams (talk) 01:29, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think I found where it explains how to move a category: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves It also leads here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion but I am not sure why.

However, I am still concerned I may mess up since I haven't done this before. Will the above link help? Can someone please help? Thank, Mercy11 (talk) 03:32, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requested moves doesn't deal with categories, but Wikipedia:Categories for discussion is the right place to talk about renaming a category. I think this issue would qualify under C2 (Typographical or spelling errors). Shadowjams (talk) 03:36, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Copper Fox Distillery

The article on Copper Fox Distillery has not yet demonstrated the importance of this distillery. If importance can't be demonstrated, the article will eventually be deleted. I am unfamiliar with what spirit industry publications are considered reliable and independent, so I am not in a position to add good citations. I hope someone in this project can do so. Jc3s5h (talk) 18:55, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Picture Quality for Bärenfang

Hello all. I'm trying to resolve an issue that could potentially turn into an edit scuffle. It is about the picture quality for Bärenfang. If you all could please weigh in on this issue, I would appreciate it.

Talk:Bärenfang#Picture_Quality

Thanks! WDavis1911 (talk) 01:24, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Benedictine

The article on Benedictine states that B&B stands for Benedictine and Brandy, however, the bottle I have is called B&B and it is a blend of Benedictine and Cognac. I have never edited or posted wikipedia, so I thought I would be safe and inquire about this on the talk page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by74.95.45.253 (talk) 22:30, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well Cognac is a type of brandy, so they are just being specific about what kind of brandy they are using. WDavis1911 (talk) 03:47, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

All cognac is brandy, but not all brandy is cognac. rafatia is listed as a type of brandy, this is absolutely incorrect. Rafatia is what we call creme today. So rafatia de cacao, rafatia de menthe, etc.. it looked like someone worked hard on it so I didn't delete it, but that is blantant lies, whoever wrote that obviously had no clue what rafatia means. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.87.5.68 (talk) 10:00, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Spirits articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release

Version 0.8 is a collection of Wikipedia articles selected by the Wikipedia 1.0 team for offline release on USB key, DVD and mobile phone. Articles wereselected based on their assessed importance and quality, then article versions (revisionIDs) were chosen for trustworthiness (freedom from vandalism) using an adaptation of the WikiTrust algorithm.

We would like to ask you to review the Spirits articles and revisionIDs we have chosen. Selected articles are marked with a diamond symbol (♦) to the right of each article, and this symbol links to the selected version of each article. If you believe we have included or excluded articles inappropriately, please contact us at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8 with the details. You may wish to look at your WikiProject'sarticles with cleanup tags and try to improve any that need work; if you do, please give us the new revisionID at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8. We would like to complete this consultation period by midnight UTC on Monday, October 11th.

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Content forking

There is a great deal of content forking present for fruit/pomace brandy: apart from a section within Brandy, there are Eau de vie, Palinka, Rakia, Schnapps to name a few. All of those describe a distilled alcoholic drink, made from various types of fruit - i.e. the same thing, except claiming to be exclusive to one region or another, which they're not. Apart from this, the Brandy article includes a section on the fruit/pomace brandy that has nothing to do with brandy proper, i.e. wine brandy and has no business being in the same article except perhaps in a "See also" section. I suggest merging the various fruit/pomace brandy articles in a single article and removing content on those from the brandy article. Any thoughts?--Tomobe03 (talk) 23:46, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Cuba_Libre#Requested_move

All input welcome. Cheers. ^walk victor falk^talk 00:09, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Collaboration with the Wine Project on Cognac (brandy) and other spirit articles?

Hello! For 2011, the Wine Project is doing a Wine Article Improvement Drive with each month focused on a particular theme. For February, we will be tackling French wines which includes coverage on Cognac, its sub-zones (Grande Champagne, Petite Champagne, Borderies, Fins Bois, Bon Bois andBois Ordinaire), Armagnac (drink) and its sub-zones (Bas-Armagnac, Armagnac-Ténarèze, Haut-Armagnac and Blanche d'Armagnac), the grapes, production method, producers, etc. I was wondering if any members of the Spirits project would like to take part in the article improvement drive and enhance our coverage on Cognac and other French wine spirit articles? If there is interest, feel free to stop by the Wine Project's talk page and pitch in with any area of interest. Thanks! Agne ^Cheese/^Wine 21:51, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Loch Lomond distillery

As I understand the sources, the current destillery (article topic) was founded 1965, so the part about "The real Loch Lomond brand was founded in Glasgow in the 1840s by Gabriel Bulloch" have no support. Can I have a second opinion on this? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:56, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Good question, I'll look into it. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 11:29, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

TAFI

Hello,
Please note that List of alcoholic beverages, which is within this project's scope, has been selected to become a Today's Article for Improvement. The article is currently in the TAFI Holding Area, where comments are welcome about ideas to improve it. After the article is moved from the holding area to the TAFI schedule, it will appear on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Today's Article for Improvement" section for one week. Everyone is invited to participate in the discussion and encouraged to collaborate to improve the article.
Thank you,
TheOriginalSoni (talk) 11:20, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
(From the TAFI team)

Old Tom gin.

Somebody please edit the Old Tom article, particularly its relationship to Dutch gin.Euonyman (talk) 18:33, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Euonyman! What changes did you had in mind? Is there a particular situation that makes it hard or uneasy for you to edit it yourself? Contributions are always welcome! Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 18:46, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Absinthiana needs some love

The article's a bit of a mess, frankly, and needs some attention--especially sourcing. Thought I'd bring it to the attention of whoever's watching here, as it's not really within my areas of expertise or interest. (Well, I'm very interested in drinking absinthe, it's delicious...) The Potato Hose ↘ 20:36, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bacardi Superior importance

I was wondering if someone in the project could take a look at the Bacardi Superior article and see where it rates on the importance scale. I generally wouldn't go as far as asking on the project page but since Bacardi is a major brand of one of the major alcoholic bases, I figured that it might be worth bringing up. Thanks. Cat-five t c ---- 20:51, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Cat-five, while Bacardi is important (and now shown as such) one of their products isn't, in itself, important. Cabe 6403^{(Talk•Sign)} 13:56, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, but currently it has no rating at all (it's ???). Even unimportant articles generally get rated and I didn't/don't know enough about the Wikiproject Spirits rating system to do it myself. Cat-five t c ---- 01:39, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The rating system is fairly informal to be honest, I've gone ahead and rated it as low importance Cabe 6403^{(Talk•Sign)} 07:35, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'll remember that if it comes up in the future, some Wikiprojects can be, not to put too fine a point on it, defensive when it comes to their ratings which is why I asked. Thanks for rating it though. Cat-five t c ---- 02:49, 10 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Rollcall

Hi WikiProject, I'm wondering how many people are still active. I'm planning to start some activity again, and am wondering how much is still happening around me, as there is quite a bit to do. Cheers, Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 19:15, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Martijn Hoekstra, I'm around and active on Wikipedia just not particularly in this project space currently. I'm willing to assist when I can if you have a plan in mind? I would suggest we tackle the unassessed articles and get everything rated first then we can set a SMART goal to work towards. Cabe 6403^{(Talk•Sign)} 23:16, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It depends on the activity of the project. There is a big backlog of assessing, and I also think quite a backlog of articles that are in our scope, but aren't in the category yet. After that, we can start thinking of fun stuff. Assessment backlog drives, collaboration of the month articles, drafting lists of redlinks with priorities, maybe create some new lists or improve old ones. We have great opportunities to improve Wikipedia in this project, and I would love to get things off the ground. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 23:32, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Might be worth {{ping}}ing editors who have listed themselves as partcipants as well as recent commenters here as I'm sure not many check this talk page on a regular basis. Cabe 6403^{(Talk•Sign)} 07:10, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Watch me annoy the hell out of everyone :D @Craiglduncan: @Cuillins: @Jerem43: @Kgeurts: @Nightcafe1: @PeterS2009: @PirateBoss: @SteelersFan UK06: @Vapeur: @V0nNemizez: @Wahrmund: @Beefeaterdrinker: @Huckleberry113: @Rjhatl: @Francophile124: @Dcvtsellc: @Undererasure: @Bitterherbs1: @KawaiiDDoS: @Ethanbentley: @Gkleinman: @AaronRichard:

Well, it looks like it's the two of us. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 19:35, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I was never listed as a participant but I've put some work into Scotch whisky. I would be interested in some other collaborations. --Laser brain (talk) 23:24, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am still alive, just been working on the WP:Food main page. I still available for grunt work... --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 01:22, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to see people still wanting to put work in the project! I'd first like us to know where we stand, and make a dent in assessment (speaking of grunt work...). I want to draft an assessment drive this week still. Are there maybe people who would prefer to learn a little more about assessment first or shall we dive headlong into drafting a drive? Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 10:34, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I would suggest diving in. Assessment isn't too complex and can easily be learned by doing Cabe 6403^{(Talk•Sign)} 12:13, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Great. I set up a draft over at Wikipedia:WikiProject Spirits/Assessment Drives/September 2013. I never set up a drive, so if I'm doing things wrong or things could be done better, please be bold, and just go ahead and change things if you think that's better, discussion is optional. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 21:06, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Leaflet for Wikiproject Spirits at Wikimania 2014

Hi all,

My name is Adi Khajuria and I am helping out with Wikimania 2014 in London.

One of our initiatives is to create leaflets to increase the discoverability of various wikimedia projects, and showcase the breadth of activity within wikimedia. Any kind of project can have a physical paper leaflet designed - for free - as a tool to help recruit new contributors. These leaflets will be printed at Wikimania 2014, and the designs can be re-used in the future at other events and locations.

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Comment on the WikiProject X proposal

Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:48, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

need table at bottom of every bourbon article

It would be nice if there were a navigational table at the bottom of every single bourbon article listing every type of bourbon

example: you go here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAfee's_Benchmark and then at the bottom there were would be a navigational table where you can select every other type of bourbon in kentucky.

There is something similar to the bourban trail navigational table, but that is only limited to certain members of an association.

Thanks for considering this! 66.210.101.146 (talk) 15:04, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Harej (talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ketel One Vodka - help required

Hi, I wondered if anyone could help.

I'm a communications professional working with Ketel One Vodka and I'd like to suggest some changes to our Wikipedia page to add more insight and information.

The following changes I wish to be made are:

To be removed:
• Also known as Ketel 1

Timeline

To be amended:
1793 needs amending to: • 1794: Under the control of Jacobus Nolet (5th generation), family members build the Nolet Distillery windmill, known as 'The Whale.'
1867 needs amending to: • 1867: The Nolet family acquires an interest in shipping and begins exporting spirits.
1979 needs amending to: • 1979: Carolus Nolet Sr. (10th generation) assumes control of the Nolet Distillery.
1983 needs amending to: • 1983: Carolus Nolet Sr. develops the Ketel One recipe and launches it in the USA.
1991 needs amending to: • 1991: Nolet Spirits USA is founded, whilst Carl Nolet Jr. (11th generation) moves to the United States to dedicate himself to the growth of the company.
2000 needs amending to: • 2000: The Nolet Distillery produces a super-premium, flavoured vodka, Ketel One Citroen, which is launched in the USA.
2002 needs amending to: • 2002: Ketel One Vodka reaches the 1,000,000 case mark.
2003 needs amending to: • 2003: The first national Ketel One print advertising campaign, “Dear Ketel One Drinker”, launches in the USA.

To be added:
2009: The first television campaign for Ketel One Vodka launched in the USA.
2010: A new orange-flavoured vodka, Ketel One Oranje, is launched in the USA.

To be removed:
2011: Ketel One Worldwide has grown the brand to 2,000,000 cases. Ketel One is now sold in over 50 countries

Would anyone be able to help with this? It really would be appreciated.

Thanks!

AdamF Grayling (talk) 15:03, 15 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the "Ketel 1" statement since it's unsourced anyway, but the entire Timeline needs to go because it's plagiarized from the company website and is a copyright violation. We cannot accept copyrighted text as part of Wikipedia articles. The text is promotional in nature anyway—Wikipedia is not for marketing and promotional purposes. I do appreciate you declaring your position, and encourage you to review Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and WP:PAY in particular. --Laser brain (talk) 15:16, 15 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(ec)Hi Adam. Thanks for reaching out suggesting improvements as well as declaring your conflict of interest. The current article we have is an unholy mess, I completely agree with your there. I don't mind working on it to attempt to bring it to a more reasonable state. Currently, the articles greatest problems are firstly that it's entirely unreferenced; it's in dire need of reliable sources, independent of the company/brand that give significant coverage about the subject, and speaking of the subject, the article seems to conflate Nolet (the org), Ketel One/Ketel 1 (the brand name) and Ketel One vodka (the product) to the point where it is unclear what the article is actually about. Re-focussing the article is probably a good idea, with Nolet as the likeliest target, since it's the central subject. If the need arises we can always spin out articles. Until then, redirecting the other titles is probably a good idea. The best thing you can do to help, is finding sources. Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources is a good guide to get a feel of what we're looking for. Kind regards, Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 15:18, 15 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

As for the quick basics, is it correct that Ketel One is a brand name owned by Ketel One U.S.A., which is 50/50 jointly owned by the Nolet group (through Nolet International B.V.) and Diageo? Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 16:29, 15 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ketel One Vodka - page edit

Hi, I wondered if anyone could help more on the above discussion.

I'm a communications professional working with Ketel One Vodka and I'd like to suggest some changes to our Wikipedia page to add more insight and information.

Following the feedback and recommendations I received above, which was much appreciated, I'd like to suggest some revised changes to our Wikipedia page, which are now sourced. The following changes I wish to be made are:

Timeline

• 1794: Under the control of Jacobus Nolet (5th generation), family members build the Nolet Distillery windmill, known as 'The Whale.' http://drinksenthusiast.com/2013/04/21/ketel-one-tasting-notes/

• 1867: The Nolet family acquires an interest in shipping and begins exporting spirits. http://www.just-drinks.com/news/just-the-facts-ketel-one-vodka_id98896.aspx

• 1979: Carolus Nolet Sr. (10th generation) assumes control of the Nolet Distillery. http://www.diffordsguides.com/beer-wine-spirits/spirits/vodka-and-korn-and-poteen/BWS001121/ketel-one-oranje

• 1991: Nolet Spirits USA is founded, whilst Carl Nolet Jr. (11th generation) moves to the United States to dedicate himself to the growth of the company. http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/stories/2008-04-24/ketel-one-finally-hits-the-bottlebusinessweek-business-news-stock-market-and-financial-advice

• 2000: The Nolet Distillery produces a super-premium, flavoured vodka, Ketel One Citroen, which is launched in the USA. http://www.just-drinks.com/news/just-the-facts-ketel-one-vodka_id98896.aspx

• 2003: The first national Ketel One print advertising campaign, “Dear Ketel One Drinker”, launches in the USA. http://www.just-drinks.com/news/just-the-facts-ketel-one-vodka_id98896.aspx

• 2009: The first television campaign for Ketel One Vodka launched in the USA. http://www.slate.com/articles/business/ad_report_card/2009/11/who_drinks_ketel_one_in_a_recession.html

• A new orange-flavoured vodka, Ketel One Oranje, is launched in the USA. http://www.barbizmag.com/features/item/704-new-launch-ketel-one-oranje

I hope are suggested amends are suffice. Please do let me know if you require anything else.

Thanks, Adam. AdamF Grayling (talk) 13:35, 1 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Review 100 Pipers

I have created article on Pernod Ricard's brand 100 Pipers. Kindly review the article and improve the article with proper sources. Can anyone find any source about cases sold in India, Australia, South America? Also properly licensed image of 100 Pipers is needed, I'm relatively new at Wikipedia, I'm having some problem in licensing. Kindly help. Thank you. --Human3015 20:00, 6 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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