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Regions

Just something I've been working on is taking all the region articles, figuring out which ones are legit, and which ones can be merged. I've basically come up with these socioeconomic regions: Western North Carolina (aka Mountain region, including High Country and Land of the Sky), Piedmont Triad, Charlotte metropolitan area (aka Metrolina or Centralina), The Triangle (aka Raleigh-Durham), Sandhills (Southern Pines, Pinehurst area), Inner Banks (the Sound-bordering towns in NE North Carolina and the "Albemarle Region"), and Outer Banks. Keep in mind these are not the geographical regions: Mountains, Piedmont, Coastal Plain (barrier islands). The Crystal Coast, Down East, and the Foothills (loosely defined transition between Mountains and Piedmont) seem to be mini-regions that don't seem to fit in with all the other regions, so I think they deserve mentioning. What has me stumped is the Wilmington-Oak Island-Southport-Carolina Beach area. What would you call that region? It seems to have its own identity of sorts? --TinMan 18:09, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Waterfalls

I've been working hard on getting some of the waterfalls pages updated and added. I'd love to get some help with some of the related natural features, like rivers, creeks, etc. Heck - I'd love to start a general Waterfalls of North Carolina page, considering that our wonderful state has some of the highest concentrations of falls in the United States. Any takers? 5minutes 17:59, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

American Revolutionary History

I've added one of your American Revolutionary War Heroes after starting to expand the list of Davidson's from my Scottish Clan wikiproject and that's led me out of my depth in your history, trying to add battles like Cowan's Ford and Colson's Mill et el. I'll be off back to my other projects, but maybe some of you might like to add to the articles and look into the disambig issues? petedavo, Western Australia 09:38, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Category Discussion: Estuary, Sound, or Lagoon?

Ok, there seems to be a little problem with people removing certain North Carolina categories and others reverting. As NC residents are familiar, the state boasts a lot of bodies of water known as "sounds" (e.g. Pamlico Sound, Albemarle Sound, Bogue Sound). Technically, they are lagoons, but they are sounds too by the common American geographical definition. They could also be considered part of a slightly broader category of estuaries. There are three categories: Category:Sounds of North Carolina, Category:Lagoons of North Carolina, Category:Estuaries of North Carolina that all (without edit warring) could fit under. The question is, which one should we use and which other two should we delete... or should we keep all three? --TinMan 02:58, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

While we could get fairly technical, I think the simple fact that these bodies are called "sounds" should be the defining standard. Links to the article Sound (geography) should help to clarify matters, as it lists bodies that are "called" sounds, as opposed to bodies of water that are technically, by perfect definition, a "sound". Part of the (for lack of a better term) muddiness of certain types of geography, I suppose. Kind of like when someone asks "where do the Appalachian Mountains begin?" 5minutes 19:30, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

We should keep estuaries, as not all sounds are estuaries, and not all estuaries are sounds(such as some near Wrightsville). As for lagoon, I'm not sure if the definition of lagoon extends to include swamps or is otherwise distinct from estuary, so no comment there. i kan reed 20:31, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

New articles

Dear Wikipedians, a list of possible North Carolina-related articles found by bot is available at User:AlexNewArtBot/NorthCarolinaSearchResult. Colchicum 15:00, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

North Carolina Hospitals

I've started working on creating and expanding articles for hospitals in NC. Currently I'm focused on those in Winston-Salem. If anyone would be interested in helping me out with this, I would much appreciate it. I have, for example, gathered much information for Wake Forest University Baptist Medical Center and would like someone to help me lay it out. I'm suffereing from a block when it comes to this. Please leave a message on my talk page if you're interested. --LaraLove 18:12, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Unincorporated communities in North Carolina

There are many many many articles about unincorporated communities in the state of North Carolina, that is places that have no municipal government. My question is, are these places notable enough to deserve their own articles. Some, I must say, do deserve articles, since they are well known for something, like Buxton, North Carolina. The Census-designated places should have articles too, of course, but I'm not so sure about the ones that have maybe one or two sentences that say "Such and Such is an unincorporated community in Gilbert County, NC". They are usually unsourced and usually have no point of interest. What do yall think about this? Should there be some guideline for unincorporated community articles for how big/notable a place should be, etc. Should non-notable ones be merged into township or county articles for better management? This somewhat corresponds with WP:LOCAL. I'm mostly referring to places that are not found on most maps. We have a List of unincorporated communities in North Carolina (which doesn't include all of them) that may help you all understand what I mean. Article examples that I think might should be merged into the county article or deleted: Burch, North Carolina; Odell School, North Carolina; Timberlake, North Carolina. Let me know your thoughts, and if there's intrest here, I'll draft a proposed guideline for unincorporated communities in NC, which may spread to the country later on. So far, I haven't found a place where this has been argued before, but if this is an old issue, let me know. --Triadian 19:41, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

I believe these places deserve their own articles. The biggest reason being that they are so much of what makes North Carolina what it is/was. If organization is a problem, the navigational box we have set up for Surry County, North Carolina (and that others just recently have improved with better colors/fonts), I think is a wonderful way to manage the large number of places we have recently added or expanded in Surry County and could be used in other counties. Burch, North Carolina is one of my creations and like so many others will remain a work in progress (if allowed to live). I have been combing through old books and other resources I have, trying to decide if I can correctly state it was William Vance Burch that the station was named for. Also, at one point prior to the early 20th century, there were general stores and a hotel at that site along with the train station. Combined with the post office and churches of nearby Little Richmond, North Carolina the area was a rival of other developing communities that would later incorporate. Unfortunately for Burch, passenger rail in rural northwest North Carolina came to an end during the time of the World Wars and the community, like so many others, went into decline (although Burch is still on official NC state highway maps). I don't think most readers of the article Surry County, North Carolina are there to see 2 or 3 sentences on 3 or 4 dozen rural communities (if these are merged/deleted) but readers of Surry County are blessed now with the option to easily navigate a comprehensive list of such communities for further reading. Now, whether there should be standard article guidelines, I'll let someone else make that call and I'll help pull mine into compliance. I just see a lack of information on topics I find interesting and try to provide information on those topics using similar articles as models (note our Surry County township articles resemble their existing Wake County cousins). Otherwise, this information may not reach such a wide audience, after all, I now know others have been reading about where the heck Burch is. Hope this helps! :o) --Naytchrboy 04:38, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

County templates

I made this template tonight. What do you think? Is it missing anything that you notice right away. I purposefully excluded the CDPs. Should they be there? I can make more, for other counties, if requested and probably will make more just to make them. But any requests will go to the top of the list {{Robeson County, North Carolina}}

Dincher 06:02, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

I think it looks great!! Request for Cabarrus & Mecklenburg :-) Morphh ^(talk) 12:50, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Excellent! I'd been toying around with creating something like this, but you've done a better job than I. Request for Alamance, please. 5minutes 13:32, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

East Carolina University Peer Review

Hello, I am hoping some people could look over the East Carolina University article for GA-ness. I have made a lot of changes. i.e. fixing the citations etc etc. The more North Carolina GA articles, the better:)PGPirate 17:02, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Outer Banks Template

• {{Outer Banks}} - Outer Banks Template

I did not create it, but will probably expand on it. Thought I would share.PGPirate 19:34, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

I made the template, along with a few others: {{Piedmont Triad}} {{Triangle MSA}} (redesigned that one) and {{Charlotte, North Carolina}}. If you want to discuss anything about them, let me know and maybe I can help. --Triadian 20:55, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

I need help with the Bodie Island article. Most of the sources I've found talk about the lighthouse and not the island itself. It's a long stretch of land that contains Kill Devil Hills, Kitty Hawk, Duck, Corolla, Nags Head, and all that, but it looks to me not to be an island per se, but a really long peninsula stretching into Virginia. So is "island" a misnomer? Is there a creek seperating it from the mainland somewhere that I'm not seeing? If not, then where does the "Bodie Island" term end? Does it stretch into Virginia? Any help would be useful here. --Triadian 04:04, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

• I understand completely. You beat me to the punch with that article. As far as I know it is a technical peninsula now. I think in the past it was an island. i.e. Pea Island was a island, but the inlet dried up once oregon inlet was formed. - PGPirate

North Carolina Peer Review

Should we start a Peer Review for all topics North Carolina? WikiProject Virginia has a Peer review section to help increase the amount of GA and FA in their WikiProject. I think this is a good ideas, any comments - PGPirate

• I agree, that would be very helpful --Mr.crabby (Talk) 20:03, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Portal?

Have you guys ever considered creating a North Carolina portal, other states have portals such as Portal:Florida and Portal:Vermont. I'd be willing to help if you guys like the idea. --Mr.crabby (Talk) 19:54, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

I created an example of what I think it should look like, click here to see. Tell me what you guys think. --Mr.crabby (Talk) 21:45, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Support a good idea and a good start. Dincher 03:23, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

House cleaning

I'm cleaning up the project page, as I've noticed somethings that have been there over year and are not relevant anymore. And I want to emphasize getting articles to Good Article Canidate and eventually Feature Article status. I'm going to try and get more active in the project again. GWatson • ^TALK 17:26, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Peer Review

I recently nominated the article on the Kinston Indians for GA status and it passed. Anyone familiar with FA guidelines is welcome to give me suggestions for getting this to FA status. Kinston eagle 03:50, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Just checked the article, it looks great! I don't know what needs to be done to make it a FA, but I'll be willing to help with whatever you need. --Mr.crabby (Talk) 16:33, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Quality and Importance

I have been spending a good deal of time trying to get the quality and importance factors for NC articles to actually split up into subcategories. If anyone can help that would be great as being able to know what is labled as what is very helpful. Acidskater 07:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

I'll try to help, I'm glad someone finally added a rating scale to this WikiProject, I've wanted that for a while. --Mr.crabby (Talk) 11:36, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Tar Heel

I think the Tar Heel article is very close to being a good article. If this project is willing to help out, I believe we could get it there. Remember 17:28, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Sure, I'll help (even thugh I'm a Duke fan). What else needs to be done to the article? --Mr.crabby (Talk) 18:19, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

If you look at the bottom of the Tar Heel talk page they have some specific suggestions. Remember 00:38, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

I looked at the bottom of the talk page and didn't see any suggestions. Did I miss them or is there somewhere else where I can find suggestions? --Mr.crabby (Talk) 18:11, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Tar Heel#Failed GA Kinston eagle 19:30, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Deletion sorting page

I see that you have a section on your main page for pending deletions. Would you consider replacing individual entries there with a link to Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/North Carolina? --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:25, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Hamlet chicken processing plant fire

Some time back, there was a request that images of the memorials erected in the aftermath of the disaster be added to this article. After much trawling the internet, I was forced to give up. It only recently occured to me that if I put a notice up here, I might be able to track down someone near the scene who could go out and create them themselves! (keeps copyright simple, too!) Is there anyone availible in the area? Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 20:49, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Assessment Team

Hello Everyone, I was wondering if we can start a WPNC Assessment team to work our way through the EXTENSIVE backlog of unassessed/unknown importance articles. We currently sit at approximately 3,200 articles that are unassessed or of unknown importance and we really need to work on this. I am going to add this to the "To Do" list and recommend that we work in a bit different method. My recommendation is to work on a random topic or perhaps letter within the category. My first recommendation is all locations within NC be assessed. If anyone disagrees or has a different suggestion, please let me know! Rob110178 18:13, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Need a North Carolina photograph

Hi! We're working on the Blackwater USA article, whose headquarters is located at 850 Puddin Ridge Road, Moynock, North Carolina. Would it be possible for anyone to get (or post if you have it) a photograph of the entrance to their offices/facilities for the article? • Lawrence Cohen 21:39, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Just tagging this again, in case anyone has access to such a photo, or is in the vicinity of Moyock and would be willing to take such a photo for us. Thanks! • Lawrence Cohen 22:42, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Portal:North Carolina is launched!

I updated Portal:North Carolina, so now its an up and running portal. If anyone is interested in helping out please leave a message at the Portal:NC talk page or my talk page. Thanks --Mr.crabby (Talk) 23:48, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Peer Review for Blackwater Worldwide, please help!

Blackwater Worldwide, an article under this WikiProject, is up for Peer Review to move to Featured Article status. Please help out and offer up reviews, advice, or edits to the article or review at:

• Wikipedia:Peer review/Blackwater Worldwide/archive1

Thanks! Lawrence Cohen 14:38, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

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