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Translations?

Could I add the French-to-English translation page to this? There are quite a few requests there for translations of French articles of small communities and the like; that should be relevant, no? Tamarkot 17:13, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Do you mean the French Collaboration Project WP:FCP or Wikipedia:Translation into English/French (which are already listed)? I've put the word "translation" in one of the headings to make it easier to find. --NYArtsnWords 17:41, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes! Thanks for the heading--I completely missed it before. Tamarkot 20:25, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

I do not speak french, but would be thrilled and would chech often if french articles were translated. If they are, where can I go to find the links to them. I am facinated by English and French history especially. Merlinus —Preceding unsigned comment added by Merlinus (talk • contribs)

You might find the following categories interesting: Category:History of France and Category:History of Britain. --BillC 01:05, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Don't forget there is also Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/fr, which lists a large number of articles wanting translating and interwiki-linking. --BillC 01:01, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

New articles

Is there a page where we can add Recently-created articles to do with France? Other portals have them (at least, on French Wikipédie they do). --Wonderfool t(c) 00:16, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

I'll add a section on the notice board for Recently-created articles.-- NYArtsnWords 15:27, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Did you know

... that Thierry Henry is actually white? He's a French footballer, thus a French sportsman, (via French by occupation) French, and so a European. Obviously, all Europeans are white, right? --83.64.80.219 10:39, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Ouch, now, there's a bad category and a good candidate for deletion. Equendil Talk 12:34, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Fixed. Brian 14:10, 13 July 2006 (UTC)btball

Standard naming scheme

Please see the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Regional notice boards#A uniform naming scheme. Zocky | picture popups 00:48, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Alternative words for Germans

Does French have alternative words for Germans, as in slang? If so please add them, with a small explanation and perhaps translation at the following article: Alternative words for Germans. Thanks in advance, Rex 15:00, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Done. --Jackaranga 21:12, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Request for information on Monaco--EU relations

For the article list of European Union member states by accession, I'd need information on the current stance of Monegasque parties and politicians on EU accession -- are there any which advocate it? Has it been ruled out decisively? Any kind of information would be welcome. Thanks! —Nightstallion (?) 18:22, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Monaco would love to be part of the EU, but it's never going to happen. Bear in mind it's a 1000 year old sovereign-rule dynasty. The are some inconsequential council elections, where a handful of folk from half a dozen very wealthy Monegasque families get to have a say in the running of things (ie carving up the lucrative building rights and service contracts), but the place is essentially run by 1) the Prince 2) the French government. Only a small proportion of the country's residents are even allowed to vote! 3 generations of your family have to have been born in the Principality for you to qualify as Monegasque. You really couldn't find a less democratic place on earth, with a greater disparity of income. It stands in complete opposition to everything the EU stands for - democracy, equality, freedom, transparency, solidarity, mobility - and has no intention of changing. They were lucky they somehow sneaked into the Council of Europe, but the day they get EU membership, is the day the EU means nothing at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.209.108.110 (talk) 19:55, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Re: Economy of Paris disputed content

(moved from inappropriate place in "disputes" list on project page)

Please note that the above accusation of original research was added by User:ThePromenader who is currently embroiled in lengthy arguments at Talk:Paris, Talk:List of tallest buildings and structures in Paris and Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-09-10 List of Tallest buildings and structures in Paris. So I would take this with a grain of salt. User:Hardouin

The topic in question is quite obviously original research - but please judge for yourselves. THEPROMENADER 14:13, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Apologies for bringing trouble to this page - it would seem that I have some differences with the author of the material in question. Please remove the offending comments, and my reply, from the main page. THEPROMENADER 14:56, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

This dispute should probably go toward mediation. -- NYArtsnWords 22:19, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Louis XIV of France

Louis XIV of France is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy 14:00, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

DYK

The DYK section featured on the main page is always looking for interesting new and recently expanded stubs from different parts of the world. Please make a suggestion.--Peta 02:01, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Congrès du Parlement français

Please see Talk:French National Assembly#Congrès. --Mais oui! 08:20, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

French scientist Biography

I am looking for images/pictures/sketches of french scientist for their biographies. Some names I am mentioning below :-

• Claude-Louis Navier
• Henri Pitot
• Joseph Boussinesq
• Jean Claude Eugène Péclet

IA (talk) 08:13, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Translation Citation

Please excuse a poor newbie, as this question is probably in the wrong place, but I've been attempting to improve the translation of a section of the article Bruno Pelletier which seems to be taken from his official website in French (a link to which is at the bottom of that article). Others are welcome to help translate, since I don't speak French fluently, but what I would like to know is how it should be cited. If a translation is made, it's no longer taken directly from the official statement on the website. Is some notation required to state that it has been translated? ElinneaG 23:24, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Addition: I also meant to ask about whether changing this translation for better readability in English is considered acceptable, since it's given as a quote spoken by someone else. I haven't done translation on Wikipedia before, so I don't know the etiquette or standards. Hopefully some more experienced person can help me out. ElinneaG 23:43, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Proposed WikiProject France

There is currently a proposed project dealing with the subject of the nation of France on the Wikipedia:WikiProject/List of proposed projects. Particularly now that article assessment is both a possibility and in several areas an ongoing reality, I personally believe that wikipedia's content relating to France could be dramatically improved by the creation of such a project. Also, creation of such a project would allow for more "advertising" of the existence of a collaboration, through the presence of a project banner on the appropriate pages, and probably draw even more editors to active participation in improving content related to France than the notice board does currently. I would welcome any parties who share this belief to list themselves as members on the page above, and, if there are enough members, to help in the creation of the project itself. Also, the new Wikipedia:WikiProject Germany, which has similar scope, is up and running and assisting in the development of Germany's content, so there is reason to think a similar effort related to France could work as well. Badbilltucker 14:55, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Great idea ! It would definately help in organising and structuring the France related information. STTW (talk) 13:35, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

As a tireless promoter of French-related articles on the Eng wiki (Portal:France and the France-related topics notice board, the French art. French literature and History of France pages), I have to applaud the idea (the same reasons were behind my creating this notice board). This being said, I just don't understand why, for some reason, we don't get a lot of Francophiles on the Eng wiki (note, for example, how nothing has happened with the WP:FCP since its initial creation) and I gather that most French speakers are spending their time working exclusively on the Fr wiki. I would love to see this change... but how to do it? --NYArtsnWords 18:39, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Really good question, and I wish I had a really good answer. I can only hope that publicizing the new project might help, as then the Francophiles would know that there is a project here. Also, and hear my own incompetence at French is a definite disservice, maybe if we could add a couple of messages in the french wiki, like fr:Projet:Français in particular, we might be able to get some of them to come over to the English side. Those are probably the two best ideas I can personally think of, which, admittedly, really isn't saying much. Badbilltucker 18:51, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

I have added a request on the fr:Discussion Projet:Français, hoping for some to change sides. STTW (talk) 22:40, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

French people in the colonies

Hi, folks. I asked this question at the Africa-related regional notice board, but so far I've gotten no response. So, maybe you can give me some ideas. I was trying to clean up Category:Cameroonian people a few days ago, and I came across some problem individuals. How should French nationals who lived in Cameroon while it was a French colony be categorized? They obviously qualify for various France-related categories, but where should they go on the Cameroon section of the category tree? Right now, they're just hanging out at Category:Cameroonian people. Have any of you encountered similar situations with regard to former French colonies? However these individuals end up being categorized, I'd like it to be consistent with what has been done before (as long as they somehow remain on the Cameroon side of the categorization tree). I've cross-posted this in slightly different form to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Germany‎. Thanks, — BrianSmithson 22:44, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Hmm. This reminds me of the "French" vs. "French language" vs. "French nationality" question regarding writers (with problem cases such as Samuel Beckett). I would start by giving a clear definition of "Cameroonian people" on the category page (people of Cameroonian nationality? including people from before the creation of modern-day Cameroon?). Then, I see that Category:South African people gives one solution to the complicated problem via the subcat Category:South African people by ethnic or national origin which is itself broken into subcats. That seems like a good compromise. --NYArtsnWords 23:59, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Merci pour cette information interessante

Recent created articles

With the starting of the WikiProject France, it would be better if we have new article announcements done at Wikipedia:WikiProject France/New article announcements. If consensus is reached then I would move this section to WP:France. STTW (talk) 11:57, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

List of castles in France - request for suggestions

I recently came across the page List of castles in France. Unfortunately, the list was very inaccurate, largely due to the translation of château as castle whether referring to a real castle, a palace, mansion or even vineyard. I corrected this, and got bitten by the bug of adding more castles to the list and, more importantly, more articles to English Wikipedia. A large number of these I have provided by translating from French Wikipedia. I have been joined in this task by other editors, most notably User:M-le-mot-dit and User:Kaustuv. We now have a quite respectable list of articles, but, of course, it is getting unwieldy.

We have discussed how best to arrange the list and two alternative lists have been drafted. Comments or suggestions from Wikipedia users with knowledge or interest in France on which would be best to use (or something completely different) would be most welcome. The lists are:

• List of castles in France - the expanded original and current Wikipedia page, arranged alphabetically.
• User:Emeraude/Castles - My suggestion, by departements.
• User:M-le-mot-dit/draft - M-le-mot-dit's suggestion, by region then departement.

Thank you in advance. Emeraude 11:47, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

As the list is relatively long, division in région and then départment gives a little more clarity. Also not all are very familiar with the political divisions of France so accompanied by a map as done by User:M-le-mot-dit/draft is helpful. STTW (talk) 12:30, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

I wonder if a single map in the beginning would be as helpful as all these small maps in each section? I've changed the proposition to show both alternatives. — M-le-mot-dit (d) 13:06, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

I like the big map. Well done. Emeraude 13:13, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

I find the big map harder to read than the individual small maps because the names crawl all over each other. I also prefer not having to scroll up and scan a map to remind myself where a region or department is located. That said, there is no reason we can't have both kinds of maps. — Kaustuv Chaudhuri 18:22, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

To: User:M-le-mot-dit, User:Kaustuv, User:SlaveToTheWage, Talk:List of castles in France#Organisation of this list, Wikipedia talk:France-related topics notice board#List of castles in France - request for suggestions

List of castles in France: I have looked at the users' suggestions and comments and have made a new draft that I think could be the way forward. It uses the basic format drafted by User:M-le-mot-dit and the sort of layour used in the French Wiki.

My proposal, with notes and explanation is at User:Emeraude/Castles2.

For information, other versions are:

• List of castles in France - the present page
• User:Emeraude/Castles - my first draft, grouped by dept.
• User:M-le-mot-dit/draft - M-le-mot-dit's draft, grouped by region, then dept

What do you think? Emeraude 14:11, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I have modified just the Alsace section to two column as there was a lot of white space on the right. Any oppositions/comments to it? STTW (talk) 16:53, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I can see from the History that you've edited it, but I can't see any difference on the page!?!? Emeraude 17:16, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

It uses Mozilla-specific CSS, so it won't work on a non Mozilla browser. — Kaustuv CHAUDHURI 17:31, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

That explains it. Thought I was missing something or going blind! What do you think of the way I have proposed the page? Emeraude 17:33, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm not too fond of the table of contents, but I don't currently have a proposal that looks any better. I have my user preferences set to hide the TOC always, so it always bothers me when a TOC is hard-coded in the page without any way to hide it. There's also the issue that the TOC will show up when printed, unlike regular TOCs. (I guess it does show up in print when TOCs are enabled in user prefs.) — Kaustuv CHAUDHURI 18:06, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I like this presentation too. The list is becoming long and the article could be shorten with the same informations.

• I've no preference between mixing English and French articles or not, but italics are better than "Fr wiki" in a compact list. I think that one line of explanation in the intro will be useful.
• I would prefer another character as a list separator, like "•" or "—".
• Région may be wikilinked
• There is no need to hard-code the TOC if département names are bulleted, it was just to avoid a very long one; we could satisfy Kaustuv and use a regular TOC.

In any case, when a presentation is choosen, some names will have to be reviewed (specially in red links) for homogeneity in the use "Château de" in article names but not in the list. — M-le-mot-dit (d) 10:20, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

I have changed the list separator to "•" as suggested - much better - and wikilinked the regions. I agree that combining English and French articles, with italics for French, would be easier to use. As for the TOC, I have no opinion on this; I will leave that to thers to sort out. I think we are getting close to a final version. I will work at combining the French and English later today. Emeraude 12:18, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Great! I change the TOC, if you don'y mind (just commented). — M-le-mot-dit (d) 17:33, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Following discussion of various drafts to improve the List of castles in France page, I think the consensus is now that we make the change. I have therefore done so. Thanks you to everyone for taking part. Improvements may still be needed - any comments gratefully received. Emeraude 13:25, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Saint-Martin and Saint-Barthélemy

Someone with better French than I possess should definitely check out whether these two islands (well, one island and half an island) have already become separate COMs or not. Links: here and here. Thanks! —Nightstallion (?) 22:46, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

French	English
First article begins	Translation
Saint-Martin et Saint-Barthélemy ne sont plus des communes de Guadeloupe. Les députés ont adopté dans la nuit du 24 au 25 janvier le nouveau statut des deux îles, qui accèdent ainsi au rang de collectivités d’outre-mer régies par l’article 74 de la Constitution. Cela fait 3 ans que les habitants des deux îles attendaient cela.	Saint-Martin and Saint-Barthélémy are no longer communes of Guadeloupe. Deputies adopted, during the night of 24/25 January, the new statute of the two islands, who join the ranks of collectivités d’outre-mer established by article 74 of the Constitution. That makes 3 years that the inhabitants of the two islands have been waiting.
Second article begins	Translation
Les députés ont adopté dans la nuit de mercredi à jeudi deux projets de loi relatifs à l'Outre-mer. Saint-Barthélémy et Saint-Martin deviennent deux collectivités d'Outre-mer (COM) et perdent leur dépendance administrative à la Guadeloupe.	During the night of Wednesday/Thursday, deputies adopted two government bills relating to overseas (France). Saint-Barthélémy and Saint-Martin become two collectivités d'Outre-mer (COM) and lose their administrative dependence on Guadeloupe.

So it looks like the answer is "yes". Emeraude 19:51, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

In fact, it's only official since 22 February 2007; now we need to update a lot of articles... —Nightstallion (?) 16:30, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Big 1848 project

Bonjour, Frenchmen and -women! I wanted to let you guys know that I have proposed a WikiProject on the Revolutions of 1848 here. Join if you're interested! K. Lásztocska 14:30, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Working on French colonial history: need cat advice

I'm in the midst of writing and translating stuff on French colonialism in West Africa, but there really are not categories covering these topics.

I'd like to create a category covering just the AOF, and one covering just the AEF, as these topics seem scattered around at the moment.

I'm thinking of creating the following sub categories in [Category:Former_colonies_of_France]

1) French Colonialism in Sub-Saharan Africa a) French Colonialism in West Africa b) French Colonialism in Central Africa

2) French Colonialism in Asia a) French Colonialism in Southeast Asia b) French Colonialism in South Asia

3) French Colonialism in North Africa and the Near East 4) French Colonialism in The Pacific 5) French Colonialism in America

Others could be fleshed out, but the selection of articles on French Colonialism in West Africa is very spread out at the moment. I keep finding great things, though, that belong here in France, specific African nations, Islam, Colonialism, etc.

Thoughts/advice? T L Miles 16:53, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

On second thought, I took the path of least resistance and just added subcats French West Africa, French Equitorial Africa, and French Indochina to Category:Former colonies of France. Obviously more subcats are needed,but now AOF specific things can end up in cat:French West Africa not just Category:Former colonies of France T L Miles 17:19, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Polish-French relations

Please feel free to comment on and expand this new article.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  22:57, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Francophonie?

Does anyone think there should be a WP:WikiProject Francophonie? It would be like WP:WikiProject Commonwealth that handles the British Commonwealth.

See Talk:Organisation_internationale_de_la_Francophonie_(OlF)#WikiProject_Francophonie? for the discussion.

76.66.197.30 (talk) 07:52, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

RfC notification

A new discussion on wording changes to the current guideline to clarify the use of diacritics for subjects whose native names contain them has been initiated. It can be found at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English)/Diacritics RfC Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 08:44, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Jacques Rivette

I was just wondering if anyone here was interested in helping to finish the article on filmmaker Jacques Rivette. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.168.77.27 (talk) 03:20, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Merge discussion for Kenza Farah Albums

An article that Kenza Farah has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Hasteur (talk) 17:14, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

St. John Cassian

We are having a discussion over at his talk page what his nationality should be, and are soliciting input. Benkenobi18 (talk) 15:48, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Liberte Egalite Franternite

Let's get an assessment of this article. Liberte, egalite, fraternite — Preceding unsigned comment added by DJ-Joker16 (talk • contribs) 23:41, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Discussion at Rape during the liberation of France

Talk:Rape_during_the_liberation_of_France#Until the article meets basic quality standards… CarolMooreDC - talkie talkie🗽 17:52, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Paris Commune POV

The recent string of edits by Hubertgrove on the Paris Commune page [1] do not appear to be NPOV to me. However, this is a contentious subject and I would appreciate the oversight of other editors. --Nixin06 (talk) 22:03, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

I am sorry - what aspects of my edits are non-POV? I only removed speculation not germane to the actual historical events (of the Paris Commune) and historicist jargon . I too would appreciate guidance. Specifically, I instated mention of Communard violance (without downplaying the larger anti-Communard violence) and removed from the lede weighty observations on how the Commune later led to disputes between orthodox Marxists and anarchists - disputes that did not take place in either the location or the time frame of the actual Commune. I would also like to - respectfully - suggest that Nixin06 might be prone to NPOV edits since, according to his own page, he says own his talk page that his editing policy is shaped by the "World Socialist Web Site".Hubertgrove (talk) 10:28, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Flag of Brittany - strange change

Please review this edit, esp. text added to the second paragraph. --CiaPan (talk) 08:00, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

The big green thing in the Place Vendôme

Is there any chance someone could contribute a photo of the giant inflatable "Tree" in the Place Vendôme in Paris, once they manage to inflate it again? Thanks in advance, -- The Anome (talk) 12:17, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Zéphirin Gerbe and Côme-Damien Degland

If any French-speakers have some time handy, adding material to these articles would be much-appreciated (potential DYK?) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:17, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Lists of windmills in France

Is there any French speaking editor willing to work with me in getting the List of windmills in France translated across to fr-Wiki. There are already lists there for Somme and Nord-Pas-de-Calais (which needs splitting). Mjroots (talk) 19:46, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Article: Agathon Jean François Fain

Could you please have a look at the Talkpage of WP:Agathon Jean François Fain? I think the personal data is not correct: Year of death: 1836 or 1837? --46.114.107.97 (talk) 02:40, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Peugeot Satelis Compressor

Hi, Help needed for this article. All sources and references are in French, and this scooter was sold almost exclusively in France. Thanks, Yann (talk) 12:02, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Added a few links. Not sure if these links describe the correct model, though. Also, did not checked much for reputability. Nevertheless, hope this helps. Popol0707 (talk) 02:30, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Departments in France

There seems to be some reorganization of categories at Category:Departments of France by region that those interested in France, governance and geography might want to take a look at. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:25, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Notification: nomination of Pierre Le Gros the Younger as featured article candidate

Since the talk page of the article states that Le Gros is of interest to this group, I just wanted to let you know that I nominated it as a featured article candidate. It would be interesting to see what members of this group think about it. Thanks Gerbis (talk) 15:34, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Update and simplification of MOS:FRENCHCAPS proposed

FYI

 – Pointer to relevant discussion elsewhere.

Please see: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/France and French-related articles § Proposed simplification of MOS:FRENCHCAPS, which is more than a decade outdated
 — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  08:09, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section has an RFC

Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. BilledMammal (talk) 03:03, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Need help determining of the "Franco Moroccan conflicts of 1765-1958" is Original research

Created a discussion on the OR noticeboard, attention would be appreciated. Wikipedia:No_original_research/Noticeboard#"Franco-Moroccan_conflicts_(1765-1958).--2601:646:8400:1ED0:90B9:4B57:FFEE:F69 (talk) 22:08, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Born/died in French Xth Republic

If someone is interested in a clean-up project... We have countless articles stating that person X was born in or died in the French X Republic, instead of simply in France (e.g. André Malraux), both in the infoboxes and in the body of the article. People are born and died in France, which happened to have political system X or Y at a certain time. But no one has the nationality "French 4th republic", no one will reply to the question "where were you born" with "French 3rd Republic", and so on. Fram (talk) 16:38, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

RFC on general & party elections

An RFC about the intros to general & party elections is being held. GoodDay (talk) 16:27, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

JPA International

Perhaps someone from this WikiProject could take a look at JPA International and assess it per WP:NCORP. It was created directly in the mainspace the other day and seems to be a direct translation of fr:JPA International. -- Marchjuly (talk) 20:20, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

Merge discussion for 2nd Army (France)

Merge discussion can be found here. Reader of Information (talk) 03:36, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Angevin kings of England

Angevin kings of England has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Borsoka (talk) 02:31, 2 December 2024 (UTC)