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08:43, 15 September 2024 review of submission by Sarim Wani

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can you please accept it now? Sarim Wani (talk) 08:43, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You have resubmitted it for a review. As noted on the draft, this could take some time, please be patient. There is no way to speed up this process, which is conducted by volunteers. Do you have a particular need for a speedy review? 331dot (talk) 08:49, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

10:37, 15 September 2024 review of submission by Kaspatik

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Mostly to do with citations relating to some bits of the sumotori article, unless I'm not using the right keywords to fetch articles or what, but it's really a struggle from what I could fetch from. Kaspatik (talk) 10:37, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest you read WP:42 carefully, and evaluate each of you sources against the criteria there. I suspect that most of your sources are of limited value (and do not contribute towards establishing notability) and some of them are worthless for Wikipedia.
Note that a citation that just shows that something exists is nearly worthless: if this is significant, then there will be indpendendent sources about it, and if there aren't, why is it significant enough to be mentioned in a Wikipedia article? ColinFine (talk) 10:59, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah I figured it was gonna be like this. Atleast with ways I was going about the article (and the citations), mostly for the niche subject around Sumotori dreams. But alas though It's roadblock that I hit little after doing research and the alike into it and stuff like that on wikipedia is the least concerning subject to cover. Kaspatik (talk) 12:07, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

11:03, 15 September 2024 review of submission by Nalabala1323

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To help formatting the page and citing sufficient content and information. They are filming here in Louisville, Kentucky and our little town in Frankfort, Kentucky and I’ve been doing research on the film Carolina Caroline and spoke to some crew and one of the producers which was why based on information I’ve gathered Mr. Ward should have a page. His wife Brittany Ward is also a producer on the film and she produces and manages Elle and Dakota Fanning as well as Liz Hannah who wrote the Movie The Post directed by Steven Speilberg starring Tom Hanks and Meryl Streep. Ms. Ward and Mr. Ward also producer many other projects for Hulu, Amazon and Netflix. They have worked together on many projects. The Girl from Plainville and THE Great which had three season on Hulu starring Elle Fanning and Nick Hoult. I have drafted a new page but would love help on this project and page. Much appreciated! Nalabala1323 (talk) 11:03, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Nalabala1323: we don't get involved in co-editing here at the help desk. If you have specific questions, you may ask those, of course.
In any case, this draft has been rejected, and will therefore not be considered further.
Also, just so you know for future reference, your own interviews and other research, while no doubt interesting to conduct, isn't useful on Wikipedia, as that comes under original research which is not allowed. We are only interested in what reliable published sources have said about a subject.
Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:07, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, but the sites and references do show past films, current films and the films worked on which to my findings have grossed hundreds of millions of Dollars at box office and projects the gentleman has worked with A list actors and directors and it links to his current film production filming here in Kentucky Carolina Caroline and he is on that page so why would it not be of interest to put context behind his credits and colleagues? Nalabala1323 (talk) 11:16, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But that doesn't change the fact that those things are original research. There are places to publish that, Wikipedia isn't one of them, sorry. 331dot (talk) 11:32, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Nalabala1323: What you're basically trying to argue is that the film is notable due to its personnel's notability. We do not accept that argument (and we never have); the film needs to be notable on its own merits regardless of the notability of the names attached to it. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 18:18, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

11:37, 15 September 2024 review of submission by 2A02:C7C:8AEE:DF00:60F4:E261:6D57:5B34

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Hi there,

I am a British milliner and I recently paid someone to build a page for me which they were clearly unable to do successfully.

I am not able to access it to make changes that would make it more suitable for you.

Can you offer and assistance? 2A02:C7C:8AEE:DF00:60F4:E261:6D57:5B34 (talk) 11:37, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed your link for proper display. There is nothing preventing you from editing the draft, but doing so would be academic, as it has been rejected and will not be considered further at this time. The issues from the first attempt at a draft were not resolved. In terms of you editing the draft, please see the autobiography policy.
It appears that you may have been scammed, see WP:SCAM. If you're certain the editor is legitimately trying to write an acceptable draft, they failed to comply with our policies, including making the Terms of Use required paid editing disclosure. I might try to get my money back if I were you, but it may not happen. 331dot (talk) 11:56, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for confirming what seemed pretty obvious all along, namely that the two editors involved (which I actually rather suspect to be one editor using two accounts) were, and are, undisclosed paid editors. This was queried several times, but no response was ever provided.
I hope you can get your money back, although I expect you probably won't, regrettably. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:04, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No payment for this, just star struck they have been filming in our small towns in Kentucky and they shot scenes at two of our stores so I’ve got an inside look how movies are made and it’s fascinating. I’m not professional and wouldn’t except anything for doing something I’m passionate about and trying to learn in my off time. Nalabala1323 (talk) 12:18, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Nalabala1323: you probably meant to reply in your own thread (the one above this one)? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:20, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies, thanks for clarifying!! If you can help in the future I would like to continue and grow within wiki and the community’s I’m passionate about. Thanks again! Nalabala1323 (talk) 12:25, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

12:35, 15 September 2024 review of submission by Nalabala1323

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I don’t fully understand as I’m new to this and have spent numerous hours researching the gentleman and the company that is filming in our small town and Kentucky. I found numerous publications about the producer as well as the film and their colleagues and other producers when I checked the Carolina Carolina Film page on wiki they named as well as Mr. Ward and he has substantial credits as colleagues Tim and Trevor White from what I see so any help would be appreciated to be able to site the correct references doing a thorough research. He’s been involved in over 40 movies with a list, actors and directors, I don’t know why that wouldn’t be acceptable as there are some film Producers I’ve looked up that have pages and don’t have nearly as much success or years of experience. Is it that I’m not coding or writing correctly? Nalabala1323 (talk) 12:35, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's not enough to just document the existence of his work. You must gather and summarize independent reliable sources that give him significant coverage- coverage which goes into detail about his importance/significance/influence to filmmaking(if you are asserting he is a notable creative professional) or just meets the broader notable person definition. 331dot (talk) 12:43, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

13:50, 15 September 2024 review of submission by Dooggyzon32

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Adding a new articles and information Dooggyzon32 (talk) 13:50, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dooggyzon32: that's not a question; did you have one in mind?
That said,  Courtesy link: Draft:Alitta Cat does not look likely to turn into a viable encyclopaedia article. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:10, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment: The user requesting help has been globally locked for long term abuse. cyberdog958Talk 08:40, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

16:52, 15 September 2024 review of submission by BellaNYork

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Seek guidance from colleagues in here:

As per WP:OUTCOMES district magistrates are notable as such holding the career perspective.

( Political figures not elected to public office Sub-cabinet officials (assistant secretary, commissioner, etc.) are usually considered notable, especially if they have had otherwise notable careers. ) 

BellaNYork (talk) 16:52, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@BellaNYork: in a word, no. Civil servants are not inherently notable, and neither is sub-state anyone, whether in a political or administrative role. In any case, such notabilities would only be presumed, not absolute, so the onus is on you to demonstrate that the subject is notable, rather than for the reviewer to demonstrate the opposite. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:11, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Your guidance is helpful to understand better. Much appreciated. BellaNYork (talk) 04:03, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@BellaNYork: Let's test that assertion. Refer to my /Decode subpage (linked in my signature as "critiques"):
None of your sources help for notability. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 18:14, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And to add to the above, WP:OUTCOMES is not a policy nor a guideline, but an essay. --bonadea contributions talk 18:18, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

22:33, 15 September 2024 review of submission by Jacob David Dove Pottage

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I want clarification on the standards for sources, I want to write an article about a living popular YouTuber, most of what is known about him is based off of what he has said about himself, do his own videos where he talks about his life count as reliable sources? Jacob David Dove Pottage (talk) 22:33, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jacob David Dove Pottage I fixed your link, you need the "Draft:" portion. No, we are not interested in what someone says about themselves, only in what independent reliable sources choose on their own to say about persons that meet our definition of a notable person. If the only sources are someone speaking about themselves, they do not merit a Wikipedia article. We are looking for things like news reports, professional reviews, books, etc. YouTube videos(even if independent) are not acceptable sources unless they are from reputable news outlets on their verified channel. 331dot (talk) 22:39, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was confused, I though the draft existed already. 331dot (talk) 22:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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