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- Reason
- This is a high EV image in its primary use. The lighting was a problem at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/IIT Machinery Hall so I withdrew the nom and brought it here.
- Articles this image appears in
- Illinois Institute of Technology Academic Campus
Douglas, Chicago
Illinois Institute of Technology
List of Illinois Institute of Technology buildings - Creator
- Joe Ravi (User:Jovianeye)
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:54, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
- Comment Certainly good quality, but I find the lighting problematic as the main facade is in shadow. There seems to be no reason why this cannot be re-taken in better lighting. --Elekhh (talk) 13:43, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
- Alt is better in that the main facade is lit, although an afternoon image would be even better with the side facade in slight shadow to better emphasise the architecture. However, upon further thought, as the image is supposed to illustrate more than just the buildig (campus, neighbourhood), any broader framing would increase EV. Importantly, the Main Building, located across the street to the south is very similar and the two appear to form a sort of a gateway - thus this image is deceiving in showing the Machinery Hall in isolation. --Elekhh (talk) 09:51, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
- Support Reshoot for better lighting. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 04:02, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support Second --JovianEye (talk) 00:27, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support The reshoot. — raekyT 01:31, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Promoted File:IIT Machinery Hall 2.JPG --Elekhh (talk) 00:48, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a very high quality expressive photo that has high EV as the main image in his biography. It recently failed at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Jesse Jackson, 2009
- Articles this image appears in
- Jesse Jackson
Karin Stanford
Terri Schiavo case
2002 white supremacist terror plot - FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Political
- Creator
- Eric Guo; cropped by Beyond My Ken
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:32, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose I don't think this is a very flattering shot of him, hes sweaty and his hand gesture doesn't make a good portrait. — raekyT 15:16, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Elekhh (talk) 22:57, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a high EV image that was not well received at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Metra Locomotive EMD F40PHM.
- Articles this image appears in
- Diesel-electric transmission
EMD F40PH
Locomotive - Creator
- Joe Ravi (Jovianeye)
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:54, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
- Support original Good pic --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 02:15, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
- Support Original The way its elevated there's not really any good way to crop this image or emphasize anything better. Might as well stick with the original, it has a nice sky, nice lawn, nice wall... --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 04:19, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support Original --JovianEye (talk) 00:24, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support original. Decent image, uncluttered so the focus is on the subject. Adds value to the EMD F40PH article. There could be better images of the train out there, but it's the best Wikipedia's got. Nev1 (talk) 18:50, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Promoted File:Metra Locomotive EMD F40PHM-2.jpg --Elekhh (talk) 22:58, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a high EV photo of one of the primary residences for professional school (b-school, law school and med school) graduate students at the University of Chicago. See Wikipedia:Picture peer review/Regents Park for prior discussion. (perspective correction forthcoming)
- Articles this image appears in
- Regents Park (Chicago)
Kenwood, Chicago
South Side (Chicago) - Creator
- TonyTheTiger
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:34, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose trees in the way are too distracting to offset any marginal EV it provides the articles listed. — raekyT 14:23, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. I can't stop looking at the lamp post.. -- bydand•talk 15:44, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Elekhh (talk) 22:57, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a high EV photo. It is difficult to correct any better because of the angle the image is taken from. This Gimp correction is better than anything I can get out of hugin.
- Articles this image appears in
- Crown Fountain
Glass art
Glass brick
Architectural glass - Creator
- flickr.com user jjlthree
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:25, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose and Speedy Close As the PPR for this image stated, he doesn't have a chance. The edge of whatever in the foreground is distracting and the "corrected" version skews the structure to much and is unrealistic. — raekyT 14:15, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose per Raeky. The sill obscuring part of the photo is problematic and the cropped version looks unnatural. Nev1 (talk) 18:26, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose per what's said above. -- bydand•talk 15:42, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Elekhh (talk) 22:57, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- The picture illustrates an important part of US-Iran relations and is one of the best quality pictures taken from the Iran Air Flight 655 incident.
- Articles this image appears in
- Iran Air Flight 655, William C. Rogers III, Iran-Iraq War
- Creator
- Dual Freq
- Support as nominator --Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 18:58, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support I'm going to support this, regardless of the major flaws, due to the immense EV it provides Iran Air Flight 655. — raekyT 14:22, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support per Raeky. -- Jack?! 01:26, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support excellent picture of an event most people will never get to witness live. Canada Hky (talk) 21:14, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support Best --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 13:34, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support per above comments and high EV. Nev1 (talk) 18:38, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Promoted File:USS Vincennes launching SM-2MR in 1987.jpg --Elekhh (talk) 22:58, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This was just listed at Commons:Quality_images_candidates/Archives_June_2010
- Articles this image appears in
- Illinois Institute of Technology
Illinois Institute of Technology Academic Campus
List of Illinois Institute of Technology buildings - Creator
- Jovianeye
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:27, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support A bit fuzzy, but definitely very good otherwise. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 05:16, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support An acceptable building shot. — raekyT 15:06, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support --JovianEye (talk) 00:20, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support WOw! --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 13:43, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Promoted File:IIT Main Building.jpg --Elekhh (talk) 22:59, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a high quality image with high EV
- Articles this image appears in
- Harold Washington Cultural Center
Grand Boulevard, Chicago
Harold Washington
South Side (Chicago) - Creator
- TonyTheTiger
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:51, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support This might be feature quality. Definitely good weather, focus on the subject and not too many cars in the way. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 04:46, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support I disagree that it's FP quality, the car in-front is too distracting, but forgiving the car, it's acceptable and high enough EV. — raekyT 15:19, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support Same reason as above listed. --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 11:12, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Promoted File:20070511 Harold Washington Cultual Center.JPG --Elekhh (talk) 23:41, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a high EV image that failed at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Wolf Point, Chicago.
- Articles this image appears in
- Wolf Point, Chicago
350 West Mart Center
Chicago River
Merchandise Mart
300 North LaSalle
333 Wacker Drive
Kinzie Street railroad bridge - Creator
- Flickr user Mike Boehmer
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:12, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support But please correct the noise on the left corner of water. --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 11:45, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support Very eye-catching. Greg L (talk) 16:35, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support. Eye catching to the point where I want to click and find out more. -- bydand•talk 00:15, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Promoted File:Chicago River from Lake Street bridge.jpg -- bydand•talk 00:22, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a high quality image of the father of the hydrogen bomb that has high EV. In an effort to make full disclosure, in the future I may nominate File:EdwardTeller1958.jpg at FPC or VPC. This recently failed at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Edward Teller, 1958.
- Articles this image appears in
- Edward Teller
Teller–Ulam design
J. Robert Oppenheimer
List of George Washington University people - Creator
- U.S. Government
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:10, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
- Support. The restored file definitely looks better than it did back at FPC. The Utahraptor Talk 03:19, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
- Support the restored file PawełMM (talk) 07:28, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose I find File:EdwardTeller1958.jpg has clearly higher EV. --Elekhh (talk) 09:21, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose per Elekhh. — raeky (talk | edits) 02:06, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
- Support per the nominator. Regent of the Seatopians (talk) 23:05, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
Promoted File:Edward Teller (1958)-LLNL-restored.jpg --Jujutacular talk 13:00, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- Hard to find an image with more EV for this subject.
- Articles this image appears in
- Northern krill, Zooplankton, Krill, Eucarida, Forage fish
- Creator
- Øystein Paulsen
- Support as nominator --— raeky (talk | edits) 01:44, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
- Support Excellent illustration of the Northern krill's transparency, could be FP if wasn't so heavily compressed. --Elekhh (talk) 08:45, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
- Support I find this striking.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:12, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support It's almost feature quality. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 04:11, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support. Excellent image. Nev1 (talk) 18:43, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Promoted File:Meganyctiphanes norvegica2.jpg --Jujutacular talk 13:00, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a high EV image
- Articles this image appears in
- Douglas, Chicago
- Creator
- Joe Ravi (User:Jovianeye)
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:44, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Conditional OpposeSupport if it's notable it would have references, currently the article has one sentence without any references about the apartments, if you expand it with references I'll change to support, provided you show they're notable within the context of the community. — raeky (talk | edits) 01:44, 4 July 2010 (UTC)- Ref added.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:51, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
- Using that ref you should be able to add more then 1 sentence? The ref has some good info. — raeky (talk | edits) 03:02, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
- How is that?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:38, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
- Better, I like that it says it was designed as a self-contained enclave to protect it from the surrounding slums when it was built, it says thats why it had little impact on the south side. Also not 100% convinced the reference shows it's a highly notable feature of the community? — raeky (talk | edits) 14:58, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
- Considering your objection to all buildings having articles, this is probably a correct inclusion of encyclopedic content. It is not notable enough to have its own article, but if you ask anyone from the neighborhood about the building they can point you to it. Given that it is a suitable subject in a book not just about Chicago, it is notable at some level nationally in architecture and urban planning circles.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:02, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
- Better, I like that it says it was designed as a self-contained enclave to protect it from the surrounding slums when it was built, it says thats why it had little impact on the south side. Also not 100% convinced the reference shows it's a highly notable feature of the community? — raeky (talk | edits) 14:58, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
- How is that?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:38, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
- Using that ref you should be able to add more then 1 sentence? The ref has some good info. — raeky (talk | edits) 03:02, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
- Ref added.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:51, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Jujutacular talk 13:01, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a high EV photo
- Articles this image appears in
- One Museum Park
South Side (Chicago)
Central Station (Chicago neighborhood)
Near South Side, Chicago
List of tallest buildings in Chicago
Prairie Avenue - Creator
- Ryan Kirby Hyperion924
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:41, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
- Question Why is there a dot to the left in all three versions? Is it a helicopter? My preference is for edit2. I like how the building looks leaner and taller and I like the straight-on view in the edits, but if the aspect ratio's realistic then I prefer the one that is, but not until the dot is addressed. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 04:53, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- Must be. Do you want me to get rid of it by cloning some sky?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:55, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- Now I'm between the original (preferably if you could get rid of the spot there, too) and in Support of Edit 3. After reading what Raeky said about altering the apparent angle to make it seem as though you're looking straight at building (amazing what we can with technology these days) does look better, but it seems to be better to keep vanishing points so height differences are easier to show. So... --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 14:02, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
- There is a strong preference for perspective correction at Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture, but I will try to get to the original later today.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:19, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support Edit4 Edit 5 looks far to squashed. — raekyT 15:13, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support Edit4. --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 11:59, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Jujutacular talk 13:42, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- No consensus. Jujutacular talk 13:42, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Maybe re-nominate. --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 11:02, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a high EV image. I am partial to this photo because of the supporters spelling his name out.
- Articles this image appears in
- Barack Obama presidential campaign, 2008
United States presidential election, 2008
Obama logo
Inauguration of Barack Obama - Creator
- TonyTheTiger
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:52, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
ConditionalSupport It's a great photograph, congrats for taking it. But I oppose so long as it is in Inauguration of Barack Obama, where it clearly does not belong. Remove it from that article and consider this a support. Obama logo might also be dubious, since it's mostly obscured in the photograph too. — raeky (talk | edits) 04:57, 6 July 2010 (UTC)- The image was requested during the FAC if I recall correctly.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:02, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
- I don't see where it was even discussed in the review... can you point it out to me? It was clearly there when it was promoted though, but I just don't see how it relates to the article. It's, I think, supposed to illustrate the Context section, which discusses campaign slogans, I would think an image like File:Hartfordobama.jpg that more prominently displays the slogan would be more relevant. But thats my opinion. — raeky (talk | edits) 07:33, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
- I'll run through the discussion in the morning although it could have been one of the PRs.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 08:01, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
- here is the issue that resulted in that section being added. I guess I chose to add the picture myself. I am not sure the section is relevant at all, but it was requested at FAC and I thought the picture went with the section. The picture can be removed if you think it is irrelevant, but most sections in the article about this highly photographed modern event have images.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:32, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
- No offense to your image which is great for illustrating a political ralley, I think File:Hartfordobama.jpg would be better to illustrate the use of the slogan? I'm leaning more to replacing your image on Inauguration of Barack Obama to File:Hartfordobama.jpg since the section it's in discusses mostly the campaign slogans. — raeky (talk | edits) 15:44, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
- here is the issue that resulted in that section being added. I guess I chose to add the picture myself. I am not sure the section is relevant at all, but it was requested at FAC and I thought the picture went with the section. The picture can be removed if you think it is irrelevant, but most sections in the article about this highly photographed modern event have images.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:32, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
- I'll run through the discussion in the morning although it could have been one of the PRs.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 08:01, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
- I think the point was to show him as a symbol of change with the "Change We Need" sign clearly visible.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:08, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
- If it's for the Change We Need slogan then it would work fine, if it's for the round logo thing, then theres probably better that illustrate that. — raeky (talk | edits) 07:33, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
- I don't see where it was even discussed in the review... can you point it out to me? It was clearly there when it was promoted though, but I just don't see how it relates to the article. It's, I think, supposed to illustrate the Context section, which discusses campaign slogans, I would think an image like File:Hartfordobama.jpg that more prominently displays the slogan would be more relevant. But thats my opinion. — raeky (talk | edits) 07:33, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
- The image was requested during the FAC if I recall correctly.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:02, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
- tineye says it's being used here and has no credit given to you, fyi. — raeky (talk | edits) 05:00, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
- What is the protocol for this problem?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:09, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
- I don't know, i know wikia is a fairly HUGE website, so they probably do have methods for handling copyright violations. Alternatively, if you can, you could just edit that file's page and put the attribution tag in. — raeky (talk | edits) 07:33, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
- What is the protocol for this problem?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:09, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
- P.S. that prompted me to add it to our United States presidential election, 2008 article.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:14, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
- That's an acceptable use of the image, I think, quite relevant. — raeky (talk | edits) 07:33, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Jujutacular talk 13:42, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This presents high EV to a pair of articles. See prior discussions at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Timothy Blackstone Bronze Plaque and Wikipedia:Picture peer review/Timothy Blackstone Library Plaque.
- Articles this image appears in
- Timothy Blackstone
Blackstone Library - Creator
- :self
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:04, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support This looks feature quality, wonder what happened, well this version anyway. I support the one who's quality is more realistic. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 04:14, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support I oppose the composition on the original and support the composition of the edit, not entirely sure the color correction was necessary, would like to see an edit cropped same way without the color changes. — raekyT 15:10, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support The new image. --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 11:49, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Promoted File:Timothy Blackstone Library Plaque.jpg --Jujutacular talk 13:47, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This was promoted at Commons Category:Valued_images_promoted_2010-06
- Articles this image appears in
- Red light camera
- Creator
- Jovianeye
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:52, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support - This image of a red light camera clearly shows the internal camera arrangement. --JovianEye (talk) 03:38, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support - Nice picture - clear, sharp, and shows good details. - Bilby (talk) 05:29, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support - Good detail and very decent composition, not surprisingly used as lead picture in the article. --Elekhh (talk) 01:21, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support - Illustrates the subject. — raekyT 15:08, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support valued. Illustrates the subject as said above. -- Jack?! 01:32, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support per Bilby. --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 12:01, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Promoted File:Red Light Camera.jpg --Jujutacular talk 13:48, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This was promoted at Commons Category:Valued_images_promoted_2010-06
- Articles this image appears in
- Fountain of the Great Lakes
Victory Monument (Chicago) - Creator
- Jovianeye
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:49, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support --JovianEye (talk) 03:36, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support Acceptable, but could be better (longer exposure to soften water movement) and doesn't look perfectly centered. — raekyT 15:07, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Jujutacular talk 14:02, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a high EV image
- Articles this image appears in
- Michigan–Wacker Historic District
Michigan Avenue Bridge
Carbide & Carbon Building
35 East Wacker
333 North Michigan
London Guarantee Building - Creator
- self (TonyTheTiger)
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:57, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose buildings in shadow, light puts focus on the asphalt. --Elekhh (talk) 22:50, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose Mirror above — raekyT 15:05, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Jujutacular talk 14:02, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a high quality and high EV image that recently failed at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Richard Cordray.
- Articles this image appears in
- Richard Cordray
Ohio Attorney General
Solicitor General of Ohio
Ohio State Treasurer
Jeopardy! Tournament of Champions
University of Chicago Law Review
Valedictorian - Creator
- See OTRS ticket #2008061510000901
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:35, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose Standard shot, does not reveal personality, only physical appearance in a standard staged situation with a standard background. Limited educational value IMO. --Elekhh (talk) 22:48, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose Same as above. — raekyT 15:03, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Jujutacular talk 14:03, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- Yes this is another official portrait. This is a high EV image. It recently failed at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Donald Rumsfeld.
- Articles this image appears in
- Donald Rumsfeld
United States Secretary of Defense
List of Eagle Scouts (Boy Scouts of America)
List of New Trier High School alumni
Republican Party (United States) presidential primaries, 1988
List of White House Chiefs of Staff - Creator
- U.S. Military
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:31, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose Standard shot, does not reveal personality, only physical appearance in a standard staged situation with a standard background. Limited educational value IMO. --Elekhh (talk) 22:47, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose Agree with above, cookie-cutter shot. — raekyT 15:03, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Jujutacular talk 14:03, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a high EV image and maybe the best picture we have of this long-deceased legend.
- Articles this image appears in
- Jim Thorpe
Half-breed
Native Americans in the United States - Creator
- Unknown
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:20, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose on size grounds. — raekyT 14:41, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Better images are not unobtainable, quick LOC search yields:
- http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/ggbain.11965
- http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/ggbain.14466 (uploading this one) File:Jim Thorpe, New York NL, at Polo Grounds, NY (baseball).jpg, going to need restored though.
- http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/ggbain.11967
- http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/ggbain.50300
- http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/ggbain.25203
- http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/ggbain.50300
- And that was just on the first page, before nominating such low quality pictures AT LEAST look to at the LOC to see if better exists online. — raekyT 14:48, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- I think 11967 is a better choice than the one you are uploading. Did not know we had so many photos.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:33, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- I'll upload that one too, and sometimes a search of the LOC archives yields some pleasant surprises. Bookmark: http://www.loc.gov/pictures — raekyT 15:36, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- File:Jim Thorpe, New York NL, at Polo Grounds, NY (baseball) 2.jpg and it also needs restored. — raekyT 15:42, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- I have cropped that as File:Jim Thorpe, New York NL, at Polo Grounds, NY (baseball) 2 cropped.jpg. Despite the booty prominence, I like the crop. I will see if I can get it restored.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:07, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- I would prefer a crop that follows some photographic composition rules like rule of thirds and lead room. To bad our most prolific and best restorer has burned out and doesn't participate much anymore, not sure who i'd suggest to restore it. These wouldn't be easy to restore. If done right it could definitely be a FP. — raekyT 21:27, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- I have cropped that as File:Jim Thorpe, New York NL, at Polo Grounds, NY (baseball) 2 cropped.jpg. Despite the booty prominence, I like the crop. I will see if I can get it restored.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:07, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- File:Jim Thorpe, New York NL, at Polo Grounds, NY (baseball) 2.jpg and it also needs restored. — raekyT 15:42, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- I'll upload that one too, and sometimes a search of the LOC archives yields some pleasant surprises. Bookmark: http://www.loc.gov/pictures — raekyT 15:36, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- I think 11967 is a better choice than the one you are uploading. Did not know we had so many photos.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:33, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- And that was just on the first page, before nominating such low quality pictures AT LEAST look to at the LOC to see if better exists online. — raekyT 14:48, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Better images are not unobtainable, quick LOC search yields:
Not promoted --Jujutacular talk 14:03, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a high quality image with high EV, although not high in any one article, it has useful contributory EV in many places.
- Articles this image appears in
- Chicago Half Marathon
Half marathon
Chicago
Hyde Park, Chicago
Lake Shore Drive
South Side (Chicago)
Kenwood, Chicago
Ari Burton (??) - Creator
- self (TonyTheTiger)
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:23, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
OpposeSupport Edit 1 not a bad photograph, couple flaws though (light posts are very distracting and the people going the other way is confusing also probably not the sharpest image) that would be forgivable if there was EV, but there is virtually no EV for any of the above articles. Is this a regular race? If there was an article about this race I'd change my mind. — raekyT 14:39, 25 July 2010 (UTC)- I could crop out the lightposts on the left. This race is considered a tuneup race for the Chicago Marathon, occuring about a month in advance. I believe it is one of the world's premier half marathons. As for the stragglers still in the first half of the course on the left, That is part of the natural composition of this image. I don't think any half marathons are really considered notable enough to have their own articles.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:10, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Does it have a name and could you write an article on just this race alone? If this picture had it's own article I could see it having enough EV to get passed at VPC. Without it's own article it has almost no EV on any of those articles you have it in now. Something to consider. I like the view of the skyline in the background. — raekyT 21:48, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- To add, if you cropped off the left light poles and successfully was able to clone the lights out of the sky on the left (shouldn't be too hard the sky is fairly monotone around them) then that would greatly improve the picture. — raekyT 21:49, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Seeing how populated Category:Half marathons has become, I will see what I can do to create an article.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:19, 25 July 2010 (UTC)]
- Change to support of Edit 1 based on new article, Chicago Half Marathon. — raekyT 23:33, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Seeing how populated Category:Half marathons has become, I will see what I can do to create an article.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:19, 25 July 2010 (UTC)]
- To add, if you cropped off the left light poles and successfully was able to clone the lights out of the sky on the left (shouldn't be too hard the sky is fairly monotone around them) then that would greatly improve the picture. — raekyT 21:49, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Does it have a name and could you write an article on just this race alone? If this picture had it's own article I could see it having enough EV to get passed at VPC. Without it's own article it has almost no EV on any of those articles you have it in now. Something to consider. I like the view of the skyline in the background. — raekyT 21:48, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- I could crop out the lightposts on the left. This race is considered a tuneup race for the Chicago Marathon, occuring about a month in advance. I believe it is one of the world's premier half marathons. As for the stragglers still in the first half of the course on the left, That is part of the natural composition of this image. I don't think any half marathons are really considered notable enough to have their own articles.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:10, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Jujutacular talk 14:03, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a unique feature that is well documented with this photo.
- Articles this image appears in
- Parapet
BP Pedestrian Bridge - Creator
- flickr user laffy4k
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:14, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
- I'm opposed to this because I don't think it showcases much of anything, even the parapets. All we see here are a few feet of the side-rear of the bridge's entrance/exit, but then again it's not really gonna be be easy to take such a photo of such a winding design. Maybe if it were more aerial... --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 04:35, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose Not an obvious illustration of (one particular type of) parapet and one of many details of BP Pedestrian Bridge, therefore not enough EV. Elekhh (talk) 23:19, 18 July 2010 (UTC)--
- Oppose Per above. — raekyT 14:36, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose per above reasons also. It doesn't illustrate parapets clearly. If it was more aerial as IdLoveOne said. -- Jack?! 01:30, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Jujutacular talk 14:03, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a high EV image.
- Articles this image appears in
- RedEye
Advertising
Sailboat - Creator
- TonyTheTiger
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:19, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose Redeye is a magazine, how is their logo on a boat even remotely enough EV to justify the requirements of a VPC for any of those articles? — raeky (talk | edits) 00:34, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
- Also to add, this is probably a copyright violation of their logo using it here. — raeky (talk | edits) 00:42, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
- As far as the copyright of the logo goes. I dont think it gets any copyright. Its a very simple logo consisting of text and simple geometric shapes. See Template:PD-textlogo for more details. --JovianEye (talk) 03:34, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
- It's close to the threshold of originality... — raeky (talk | edits) 03:45, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
- Even if it does surpass the threshold of originality (which I don't believe it does), it falls under de minimis and is thus not a copyright violation. Juliancolton (talk) 00:52, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
- Again I'd say it would be very marginally close to falling under de minimis, but irregardless it holds virtually zero EV in all of it's uses. — raeky (talk | edits) 01:09, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
- Even if it does surpass the threshold of originality (which I don't believe it does), it falls under de minimis and is thus not a copyright violation. Juliancolton (talk) 00:52, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
- It's close to the threshold of originality... — raeky (talk | edits) 03:45, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose - the boat's not at her best, (headsail furled and a reef in the main), so I don't see the EV as being quite there. - Bilby (talk) 05:23, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose Not enough EV for any of these articles. --Elekhh (talk) 01:16, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose See the all the comments above. --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 16:38, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Jujutacular talk 14:04, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a high EV image. In fact, I have been contacted for permission to include a derivative of it in a publication.
- Articles this image appears in
- Chicago City Hall
Green roof
Architecture
Urban heat island - Creator
- TonyTheTiger
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:22, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support I find it is a very good illustration of green roof, used in several related important articles. Despite technical shortcomings, still the best urban green roof image on Wikipedia. --Elekhh (talk) 22:40, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- Conditional Support I'd like to see an alt with the roof more centered and straighted in the frame... it's angle is a little off-putting for me. — raekyT 14:36, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Comment on edits, I didn't want an edit that distorts it in any way, I uploaded an edit, I simply just rotated so the roof was straight and cropped. Support my edit 2. — raekyT 15:28, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- I am not seeing much difference between your edit and mine.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:48, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- I created it and started posting it when you apparently was making another edit, the first version you uploaded did noticeably look distorted. — raekyT 21:25, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- I oversheared the first one making a 100 unit shift. I redid it with only an 85 unit shift in Gimp. This looked much better and probably as good as yours with more pixels of detail.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:33, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Why use shear? I just rotated and cropped, so every pixel is perfectly in in proportion to the original, sheer changes things.. — raekyT 21:36, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Did you clone some grey area after rotating?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:12, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- No, just cropped. — raekyT 01:14, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- I think the grey roofs on the other side of the road (visible in original and edit1) add EV by emphasisesing the pioneering (i.e. oasis in the desert) appearance of the city hall's green roof . --Elekhh (talk) 01:38, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- No, just cropped. — raekyT 01:14, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- Did you clone some grey area after rotating?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:12, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- Why use shear? I just rotated and cropped, so every pixel is perfectly in in proportion to the original, sheer changes things.. — raekyT 21:36, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- I oversheared the first one making a 100 unit shift. I redid it with only an 85 unit shift in Gimp. This looked much better and probably as good as yours with more pixels of detail.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:33, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- I created it and started posting it when you apparently was making another edit, the first version you uploaded did noticeably look distorted. — raekyT 21:25, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- I am not seeing much difference between your edit and mine.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:48, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Comment on edits, I didn't want an edit that distorts it in any way, I uploaded an edit, I simply just rotated so the roof was straight and cropped. Support my edit 2. — raekyT 15:28, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
You could not have just rotated the image. It is physically impossible unless you cloned some grey. This really looks like you just cropped and rescaled my final version.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 08:06, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- Wait you clipped a little off the left. I am going to look more closely at this in the morning. I am trying to figure out what you did. I apologize. I might not be thinking clearly at this late hour.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 08:15, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- The specific steps, in Photoshop, i drew a line with the ruler along the edge of the green roof building, I then did arbitrary rotation, which auto fills in the degree based on the rulers angle, this quickly and easily rotated it right, I then cropped it so there was no white on any corner... Theres a gazillion guides that tell you how on google. — raekyT 12:20, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- Since your algorithm seems to require more edge chopping, I am trying to see the distortion in my version that yours eliminated. Please help me.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:02, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- The specific steps, in Photoshop, i drew a line with the ruler along the edge of the green roof building, I then did arbitrary rotation, which auto fills in the degree based on the rulers angle, this quickly and easily rotated it right, I then cropped it so there was no white on any corner... Theres a gazillion guides that tell you how on google. — raekyT 12:20, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- What I did was I put my picture as a layer over yours in Photoshop, set transparency low on it so I could move it arround and align it. The area I thought I could best match the alignment was the area I circled in pink. I then drew pink lines over key prospective points on my picture then turned off the layer to see how those lines matched up on your image. They didn't match well at all, it looks as if there is distortion by the way you modified the image. If you want I can send you the .psd for this file so you can see for yourself. — raekyT 14:23, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- Yes the lines don't match up. A shear and a rotation will obviously cause different pixel adjustments. I am just saying that distortion is a strong word and that I don't like the extra bit clipped off the left to eliminate the lower left whitespace. In this case, the "distortion" is very minor and I am not sure worth arguing about, but if you think it is significant, you know more about photography than I.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:21, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- What I did was I put my picture as a layer over yours in Photoshop, set transparency low on it so I could move it arround and align it. The area I thought I could best match the alignment was the area I circled in pink. I then drew pink lines over key prospective points on my picture then turned off the layer to see how those lines matched up on your image. They didn't match well at all, it looks as if there is distortion by the way you modified the image. If you want I can send you the .psd for this file so you can see for yourself. — raekyT 14:23, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Jujutacular talk 14:04, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a high EV image.
- Articles this image appears in
- Rainbow/PUSH
Jesse Jackson
Kenwood, Chicago - Creator
- TonyTheTiger
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:29, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose I am not convinced of enough EV for any of the articles it appears in. Car in the center is very distracting. --Elekhh (talk) 23:08, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose I mirror the same above, probably not the most EV image for Rainbow/PUSH, if there was an article JUST for the building then it may be enough EV for that. The car is definitely distracting. — raekyT 14:34, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. The car in front of the building is definitely not relevant and it would be much better if the photo was retaken with a clear road. Nev1 (talk) 18:31, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Jujutacular talk 14:26, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a high EV image that depicts state of the art outdoor speakers
- Articles this image appears in
- Loudspeaker
LARES
Acoustics
Jay Pritzker Pavilion - Creator
- self
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:11, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose The composition is too busy and the background distracting --Elekhh (talk) 22:22, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose per above. — raekyT 14:33, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose Per above --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 13:45, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Jujutacular talk 14:26, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This contributes to several articles but failed at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Eisenhower Expressway.
- Articles this image appears in
- Interstate 290 (Illinois)
Blue Line (Chicago Transit Authority)
Roads and freeways in Chicago
Chicago metropolitan area - Creator
- Daniel Schwen (User:Dschwen)
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:32, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support Educational and good quality. --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 03:19, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support Probably the best image we have illustrating the expressway, not entirely convinced though it's the best section of the highway to illustrate it though... — raekyT 14:32, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Note on edit, we don't really REQUIRE license plates to be obscured, but since it exists it would be preferred over the original. — raekyT 14:59, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Jujutacular talk 14:26, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This photo was taken the morning after Hurricane Hazel struck Toronto. The author agreed to release it (and others) under the CC-BY-SA license. This particular photo shows the considerable damage caused by the rising Humber River so there's the big encyclopedic value. Considering the timing/subject, it's quite difficult to replace.
- Articles this image appears in
- Hurricane Hazel, Effects of Hurricane Hazel in Canada, Raymore Drive, Lawrence Avenue
- Creator
- Martin Taylor
- Support as nominator --Maxim(talk) 01:54, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
- Comment This is my favorite one (there's more in Category:Photographs_by_Martin_Taylor), although it's not really great in a small thumb (you have to force the image size to 400px, at least). Two good ones that work in smaller thumbs are File:Hurricane Hazel -- Weston Golf Club.jpg or File:Hurricane Hazel -- debris.jpg. Maxim(talk) 01:54, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support. Valuable image. -- Ϫ 02:36, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose Image quality is rather poor, looks to be upscaled from a much smaller image. Even though this event took place in the 50s better images have to exist. Plus I don't think this image of the set provides the most EV for the event. Better images probably exists in the Canadian archives or US archives that can be acquired probably at no cost if someone actually looked/searched. — raekyT 14:28, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Hi Raeky, thanks for you comment. I'm pretty sure this is a scan, and the original photograph wasn't of the highest quality. There are problems with finding a better image is that for not I haven't encountered much US-stuff, let alone images that can be verified to be PD (although I admit some bias on that since I'm in Canada and Hazel's been covered from a Canadian perspective), and secondly because it was in 1954, to be PD-Canada, it'd have to be done the work the Canadian government to have a chance to be PD. Because 50 years have passed, it would PD in Canada now but it's not PD in the US so it's not uploadable. I had to clear out a few files from Commons previously for this reason. And Library/Archives Canada has a very misleading and confusing website so that doesn't help. There are different photos in the category that you might find with higher EV, but from a Canadian perspective at least, I think that this photo has great EV because this sort of damage is exceedingly uncommon, and also this was taken the morning after with the flooding starting in the late evening of the previous day. Maxim(talk) 14:56, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Neutral Valuable but poor quality. --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 06:05, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Jujutacular talk 14:26, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a high EV image
- Articles this image appears in
- Entranceways at Main Street at Lamarck Drive and Smallwood Drive
Snyder, New York
National Register of Historic Places listings in Erie County, New York - Creator
- TonyTheTiger
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:54, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose a picture of a random street does not provide enough EV... Plus a page like Entranceways at Main Street at Lamarck Drive and Smallwood Drive just seems like something done to get credits for a contest then actually improving the encyclopedia. Whats next, Manhole covers of Lamarck Drive and Parking meters on Lamarck Drive? — raekyT 14:20, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- First of all. this is not a random street. You are looking at the newspaper route of a young TonyTheTiger. Also, as stated these are on the National Register of Historic Places. (not sure which point should come first:)--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:30, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Obviously the first! But I think my point still holds that this seems rather granular and too narrow scope for the encyclopedia... — raekyT 15:31, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- First of all. this is not a random street. You are looking at the newspaper route of a young TonyTheTiger. Also, as stated these are on the National Register of Historic Places. (not sure which point should come first:)--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:30, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. Meh, wires and trees. -- bydand•talk 00:17, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Jujutacular talk 14:27, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- Clearly shows the creek and characteristic cliffs used by Native Americans to hunt Buffalo, from which the creek is named.
- Articles this image appears in
- Cibolo Creek
- Creator
- Katie Labor from Flickr
- Support as nominator --William S. Saturn (talk) 18:06, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose To many flaws (focus, lighting) for a reproducible image. — raekyT 14:17, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- This is not a Featured picture candidate. This image shows what is necessary to understand the buffalo hunt and why the creek is named as it is.--William S. Saturn (talk) 00:14, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. I'm sorry, this picture doesn't help me understand the buffalo hunt nor why the creek is named as it is. -- bydand•talk 00:16, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Because you say so? Read the caption.--William S. Saturn (talk) 00:45, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Jujutacular talk 14:27, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is one of the most photographed buildings in the world from a great angle. It has high EV on WP, but failed at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Willis Tower2.
- Articles this image appears in
- Chicago
Willis Tower
List of architects of supertall buildings - Creator
- Daniel Schwen (User:Dschwen)
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:49, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
OpposeNeutral It failed on mostly EV grounds because at this angle it appears to be the same height as the building next too it, and there is a CLEAR difference in their heights. — raeky (talk | edits) 05:15, 16 July 2010 (UTC)- I'll change to neutral for the article Willis Tower, but I still have my reservations about the angle and visual effect of the building's heights. — raekyT 22:27, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Comment Raeky actually makes some good points, but these images are good, they deserve some kind of acknowledgement. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 05:14, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- I'm glad someone feels so.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:57, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support original I think it has good EV in showing the tower in its urban context, seen from the river, and a good educational value due to the real perspective effect which allows a better understanding of its (absolute) height than the perspective corrected version. However I think placing it twice in the article is overdone.... --Elekhh (talk) 22:32, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support original per Elekhh. --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 03:23, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support original per Elekhh. Nev1 (talk) 18:33, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Promoted File:Chicago Sears Tower.jpg --Jujutacular talk 14:31, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a high EV image and fairly high quality for its day.
- Articles this image appears in
- Bob Ferguson (infielder)
List of New York Metropolitans managers
Hartford Dark Blues all-time roster
List of Pittsburgh Pirates managers and owners - Creator
- unknown
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:47, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose It would need restoration work and is really to small to do that. — raekyT 14:14, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support. Fits VP criteria for mine. --jjron (talk) 15:21, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support. It's priceless...--Sabri76'message 15:24, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support. ^ -- bydand•talk 15:52, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Promoted File:Bobferguson10.jpg --Jujutacular talk 18:01, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is the main image of a WP:GA. It can not be recreated and is high EV. EV is based solely on primary use.
- Articles this image appears in
- Charlie Gardiner (ice hockey)
Tiny Thompson - Creator
- unknown
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:09, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose It may not be able to be retaken, but presumably the original exists therefore a better scan could be acquired, and presumably there was more then one photograph of this person taken therefore another image could be sourced. 300px is way to small. — raekyT 14:13, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Comment I thought it was quite common to make the article for notable deceased people that an image is hard to replace. Yes this guy was a professional athlete and was photographed often. The question is whether there are other images in the public domain. Also, I am not sure how size applies to VPs. I did not think there was a limit.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:29, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- There isn't a set size minimum, but 300 pixels is really asking a lot, it better be the absolutely most irreplaceable highest EV image you could think of for the article. And I don't see that here, as a professional there is bound to be better images out there, might be something we have to wait a few more decades for for them to enter PD, or someone might have to do some harder searching, or find the source of this image and get a better scan... — raekyT 21:34, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- In terms of size any image that is over 250x250, is at or above the size that will be used in WP. Since we are evaluating images for their value to WP. Size should only count against a VP if it is less than 250x250. I am not an expert on what irreplaceable means in this context, but many images that are of rare subjects are considered irreplaceable. I don't think there is much that we are likely to find in PD space.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:22, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- There isn't a set size minimum, but 300 pixels is really asking a lot, it better be the absolutely most irreplaceable highest EV image you could think of for the article. And I don't see that here, as a professional there is bound to be better images out there, might be something we have to wait a few more decades for for them to enter PD, or someone might have to do some harder searching, or find the source of this image and get a better scan... — raekyT 21:34, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Comment I thought it was quite common to make the article for notable deceased people that an image is hard to replace. Yes this guy was a professional athlete and was photographed often. The question is whether there are other images in the public domain. Also, I am not sure how size applies to VPs. I did not think there was a limit.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:29, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Comment. You'd at least want to fix the tilt and improve the crop. --jjron (talk) 15:20, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Are you suggesting a slight clockwise rotation and then cropping to center the goal in the image. This is a pretty small file to crop, but I could do it.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:38, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- I am not so sure about cropping because the goalie is centered even though the goal is not. I will try to tilt and post an edit.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:57, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- The tilt is better. I see what you mean about the crop - so not sure on that one actually. Overall TBH I'm hardly wowed by it. Technical's aren't good, composition is very so-so, EV is OK but not huge (due to size and frankly pretty boring composition, I'm really only seeing that this is some guy in a hockey suit, can't even tell much about what he looks like, etc). Looks like about the only pic specifically of this guy we have, but I'm still not really convinced I'd regard it as 'valued' given all it's shortcomings. I would tend towards Neutral at best probably. --jjron (talk) 15:59, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- I am not so sure about cropping because the goalie is centered even though the goal is not. I will try to tilt and post an edit.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:57, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Are you suggesting a slight clockwise rotation and then cropping to center the goal in the image. This is a pretty small file to crop, but I could do it.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:38, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Jujutacular talk 18:07, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a high EV image.
- Articles this image appears in
- Punt returner
Return specialist
Devin Hester - Creator
- User:Bearhanded
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:27, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose 318 × 634 is way to small to be of value, very little EV for listed articles due to size, it's a guy catching a ball, doesn't demonstrate anything of value to Punt returner or Return specialist and is buried in Devin Hester, in which there has to be better images existing of him for that article as evidenced by whats in the infobox. — raekyT 01:23, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
- Are you going to continue to oppose without explaining why an image needs to be greater than 250px since that is all we use in most cases? I.E., all images are basically downsampled to 200-250px. WP:VPC should not require any greater resolution, IMO.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:16, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Because it may be hard for you to believe, but some people actually (a) click on images and want to see them bigger and (b) use them for more then just displaying on a website. — raekyT 04:28, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Are you going to continue to oppose without explaining why an image needs to be greater than 250px since that is all we use in most cases? I.E., all images are basically downsampled to 200-250px. WP:VPC should not require any greater resolution, IMO.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:16, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose Regardless of size, it does not make me understand what a punt returner is nor how does this guy look like. --Elekhh (talk) 05:21, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose pretty much per what Elekh said. A Vpicture should be educational and make me want to click and find out more. This doesn't tell me anything. -- bydand•talk 00:14, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Jujutacular talk 18:08, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a high EV image although not the best technically.
- Articles this image appears in
- Blackstone Hotel
Historic Michigan Boulevard District
National Register of Historic Places listings in Chicago - Creator
- User:Jcrocker
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:53, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose I'm going to oppose this for same reason as I did the FP, it's a building that still exists right? So a better photograph isn't hard to take. — raekyT 01:20, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose per above. -- bydand•talk 00:13, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Jujutacular talk 18:08, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a high EV image.
- Articles this image appears in
- Barbara Gittings
Homosexuality - Creator
- Kay Tobin Lahusen
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:41, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
- Comment You seem to want to push the boundaries of what minimum size I'd vote for? lol. Couple things, (1) Why not File:BarbaraGittings in Phaldelphia 1969.jpg which is bigger and better quality and (2) I'd very much be interested in knowing what the OTRS is on that file, if it's from Kay Tobin Lahusen or the library, if it's from the library does the library possess and have presented us with proof of a full copyright release from Kay Tobin Lahusen? Otherwise it's a copyright violation. — raekyT 01:17, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
- I nominated this one because the people close to the article felt it should be the main image. As I stated before any image greater than 250px wide is sufficient for any use on WP and should be considered for VP. I don't know anything about the OTRS.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:16, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
- I'm checking into the OTRS tickets, so far evidence is pointing to the 3 images on that page are likely copyright violations... — raekyT 02:24, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
- I nominated this one because the people close to the article felt it should be the main image. As I stated before any image greater than 250px wide is sufficient for any use on WP and should be considered for VP. I don't know anything about the OTRS.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:16, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Jujutacular talk 18:08, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- Good Ev and beautiful+good quality
- Articles this image appears in
- Lotus Temple
- Creator
- Deepak on Wikipedia, Vandelizer on Flickr
- Support as nominator --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 07:17, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support. Crop's a bit tight, but otherwise it's pretty good, seems to be the best in the article. --jjron (talk) 15:34, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support. Agree with jjron. High EV. -- bydand•talk 15:48, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support. Very good image: a good angle and detailed. Nev1 (talk)
- Support excellent night photography.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:07, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support I’d vote the same at FPC because our visiting I.P.s will stop, stare, and click the related link. I think this is outstanding. Greg L (talk) 03:27, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Promoted File:LotusDelhi.jpg --I'ḏ♥One 03:26, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- 6 votes of support, no opposes. --I'ḏ♥One 03:26, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This picture has High EV and was a selected picture at Portal:Transport.
- Articles this image appears in
- Cunard Line, Port (nautical), Ocean liner, Passenger ship
- Creator
- Chris190572
- Support as nominator --Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 01:06, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support per nom. --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 11:08, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Conditional Support. Why not? Seems to meet criteria. Good one. Conditional based on image page being completed and translated into English. --jjron (talk) 15:31, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reply The translation is "Arrival of the Queen Mary II during the Hamburg Harbour Birthday 2006", but how do I put on the the Image page? Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 18:39, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- I've done it for you. It's fairly easy, all you do is go to the file's page on commons and click on the edit button. Nev1 (talk) 21:26, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Why thank you, Nev1. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 21:28, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support. Illustrates the subject perfectly. -- bydand•talk 15:47, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support. Probably about as good an image as you're going to get of the QM2 at ground level. Nev1 (talk) 18:19, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Promoted File:Queen Mary II Einlaufen Hamburg Hafengeburtstag 2006 -2.jpg --I'ḏ♥One 03:52, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a high EV image in its primary use.
- Articles this image appears in
- face-off
Louie Caporusso (only 1 of set) - Creator
- Greg Sommers (flickr user Greg-ography)
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:58, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. This image just doesn't seem educational enough, it's pretty confusing to follow what's actually happening with the puck. -- bydand•talk 19:47, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose per Bydand. It would be much better to illustrate a face-off with a video and I don't think they're particularly good images of Caporusso either as his face is in shadow, so I don't think there's a high enough EV. Nev1 (talk) 22:26, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Edge3 (talk) 04:03, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- Good EV and beautiful picture+good quality
- Articles this image appears in
- Delhi, Bahá'í House of Worship, Lotus Temple
- Creator
- Wiki-uk
- Support as nominator --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 07:06, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. Maybe hang it on your wall, but the lighting takes away pretty much all info on the structure, therefore low EV - tells you nothing the daylight image doesn't do 100 times better. Also image page needs to be filled out to even be considered here. --jjron (talk) 15:29, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. Nothing else to say after jjron's oppose. -- bydand•talk 15:49, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. Pretty much per jjron. It's a nice picture, but isn't particularly informative about the building, or its landscape. Nev1 (talk) 18:06, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Edge3 (talk) 04:14, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- Good ev and quality image
- Articles this image appears in
- Orange
- Creator
- Jurema Oliveira
- Support as nominator --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 11:22, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Note It was a Featured Picture Candidate before: Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Oranges and orange juice. I remember seeing it. ;-) — raekyT 11:27, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. Crop's too tight, cutting off image on both sides. Take three steps back, retake image... --jjron (talk) 15:37, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. Someone can easily retake this, and it's not the highest quality it can be. What are all the black marks on the image? -- bydand•talk 15:46, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Edge3 (talk) 01:22, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- The image is featured on commons and has a high EV. Great skyway, and an image that portrays it well. Great on the featured article.
- Articles this image appears in
- Pulaski Skyway, Transportation in New Jersey, U.S. Route 1, Hackensack RiverWalk
- Creator
- Jack E. Boucher
- Support as nominator ---- bydand•talk 05:41, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support Excellent overview of the skyway and its urban context. --Elekhh (talk) 08:02, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support Per Elekhh. --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 15:32, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support Good picture, nice composition, and good EV. - Bilby (talk) 23:24, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support per Elekhh. Nev1 (talk) 22:07, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Question Is this bridge still in existence? If so why can't we get a color version? --I'ḏ♥One 21:58, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Promoted File:Pulaski Skyway full view.jpg --Edge3 (talk) 03:57, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- If only this had better labeling of distance it might arguably be feature quality, but other than that it's very educational and shows good scales and keys. It might be underused.
- Articles this image appears in
- Satellite · Low Earth orbit · Medium Earth orbit · High Earth orbit
- Creator
- Rrakanishu
- Support as nominator --I'ḏ♥One 06:05, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support Nice --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 11:48, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support. Yeah, educational. VP. -- bydand•talk 16:12, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support Throwing in support for the sciency stuff. — raekyT 14:30, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Oppose"longitude" is spelled wrong in the far-right caption. ;) Edge3 (talk) 19:01, 11 August 2010 (UTC)- Fixed it, even added distance conversions. --I'ḏ♥One 06:48, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Looks great. Support now. Edge3 (talk) 04:00, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
- Great eye --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 13:47, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
- Looks great. Support now. Edge3 (talk) 04:00, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
- Fixed it, even added distance conversions. --I'ḏ♥One 06:48, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Promoted File:Orbitalaltitudes.jpg --Elekhh (talk) 05:28, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a high EV image.
- Articles this image appears in
- Dennis Rodman
Chicago Bulls
NBA records - Creator
- Steve Lipofsky Basketballphoto.com
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:08, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Could be a copyvio: see here. I don't really care too much about this stuff, but without the OTRS tag, I think this may need to go up for deletion. --jjron (talk) 15:18, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose - too small for me. -- bydand•talk 19:50, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- And also, his hair is green on the original. I think that captures his character more, that he has the balls to dye his hair green, but it's been edited out on this one. -- bydand•talk 19:51, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Elekhh (talk) 05:31, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This picture is too small for FPC, but it makes it up with Extremely high EV and was a selected picture in Portal:Animation and Portal:Film
- Articles this image appears in
- Ralph Bakshi, Animation in the United States in the television era, Independent animation, The Lord of the Rings (1978 film), Fritz the Cat, Wizards (film), Heavy Traffic, Adult animation, Coonskin (film), Fritz the Cat (film), Israeli American
- Creator
- Heather Leah Kennedy at Flickr.com
- Support as nominator --Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 19:55, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comment. Not really sure about chopping the top of Bakshi's head off, but I don't know with criterion that might effect. Nev1 (talk) 18:46, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. Per what Nev1 said. I'm not sure if he's just smiling so his eyes are shut, but they look shut to me. It's also an awkward angle due to his glasses, and I know it's not cropped, but it looks as if it has been cropped so the top of his head is missing! I just don't feel it satisfies criterion 2. -- bydand•talk 19:24, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Edge3 (talk) 02:29, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- High EV, good quality
- Articles this image appears in
- Galileo Galilei, Astronomer
- Creator
- Quadell
- Support as nominator --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 17:30, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comment. A contemporary portrait of Galileo is undoubtedly of high EV, but the image is a little small. This is more detailed, and as it's not cropped may be better in some respects. Nev1 (talk) 18:27, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose per Nev1; I'm actually going to nominate the photo in question. -- bydand•talk 19:00, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose the more full version is better to have. --I'ḏ♥One 04:58, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Edge3 (talk) 04:51, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- I think this picture is a valued picture because there is no good pictures of the Stafford railway station
- Articles this image appears in
- Stafford railway station
- Creator
- Tyw7
- Support as nominator --Tyw7 (☎ Contact me! • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 18:04, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. It doesn't show some of the main features of the station such as the main building (isn't that it to the right?) and it's in a gallery. Per criterion 1 of the VP criteria, that means it's not really that valuable. Nev1 (talk) 18:38, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. Agree with Nev1 here. Looks exactly like part of the station in Sheffield where I live, not very educational. -- bydand•talk 18:49, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. Sorry, not distinctive enough, per previous opposes. --JN466 18:52, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- How about this then? --Tyw7 (☎ Contact me! • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 22:13, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Similar problems to the first IMO. Nev1 (talk) 22:29, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- It may just be that Stafford Station doesn't have a remarkable look. What does it look like from the outside? Alot of stations look the same while looking at the tracks. See File:Sheffield Station from Sheaf Square.jpg. -- bydand•talk 01:49, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Similar problems to the first IMO. Nev1 (talk) 22:29, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comment Can you take some more pics when the weather is better? And why are there no people in the original? It seems abandoned. --I'ḏ♥One 04:32, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Its not abandoned. Its not that busy. Plus, I'm in Cornwall so I can't take a pic of the station anymore :( --Tyw7 (☎ Contact me! • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 15:50, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Edge3 (talk) 04:54, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a pretty sharp and clear picture that has lots of EV for the individual
- Articles this image appears in
- David Schwimmer
- Creator
- flickr user Jason Broersma
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:05, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose Original Horrible crop and small. Given that the original is huge and decently composed, there is no reason this small badly cropped image should be used. — raekyT 03:11, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- I am not sure I agree that the crop is so bad. I believe you have to crop it right of the finger. I agree the original size should be used. I am going to upload a better size with my interpretation of a good crop.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:28, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- I have uploaded over the mini.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:37, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- File:David Schwimmer Jul 2005 London, England.jpg theres the original, personally I feel an image shot of someones profile like this needs a fairly big lead room, and yes the finger is distracting, and it was taken when he was talking apparently so not the best facial expression, but it just looks exceedingly odd to my eyes when you chop away all the lead room. My brain wants to see something to the left of his face. — raekyT 03:39, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support Alt 1 I added a compromise alt, I cropped it some, and the tiny tip of the distracting finger I cloned away. Still has the paper that is also somewhat distracting, but it has more lead room. — raekyT 03:51, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- I still think the paper should be cropped/cloned out.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:31, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- I have uploaded over the mini.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:37, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- I am not sure I agree that the crop is so bad. I believe you have to crop it right of the finger. I agree the original size should be used. I am going to upload a better size with my interpretation of a good crop.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:28, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- I don't like any of these, that bald guy is right behind him in all three versions and you can't get rid of him, though I marginally support the original more because it looks framed a little better, would've been nicer centered toward the left without the excessive nose room of alt 1 - oppose all three. --I'ḏ♥One 04:18, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- I added another alt with the background so blurred you can't see people anymore... — raekyT 12:50, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Better, but I cropped it a bit more with his ear dividing roughly 1/3 the photo. Some would say the background in all is drab, but I don't mind it. --I'ḏ♥One 12:40, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
- I added another alt with the background so blurred you can't see people anymore... — raekyT 12:50, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose per Id. --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 07:33, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose all three. -- bydand•talk 08:46, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Edge3 (talk) 18:53, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a quality image that benefits several articles
- Articles this image appears in
- Washington Heights, Chicago
Chicago Public Library
South Side (Chicago) - Creator
- self
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:14, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. I'm sorry, I thought this picture was about the cars or the road at first.. -- bydand•talk 01:41, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose Acceptable, but unremarkable. Agree the road traffic is distracting. Fletcher (talk) 01:52, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose Too many cars. --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 04:24, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose per above comments. Nev1 (talk) 18:46, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --I'ḏ♥One 03:50, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- Image of the interior of the only surviving Louis Sullivan church.
- Articles this image appears in
- Holy Trinity Cathedral (Chicago, Illinois)
Byzantine Rite
Cathedra
Eagle rug
Eastern Orthodox church architecture - Creator
- self
- Support as nominator --Jeremy (talk) 17:39, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Strong support For quality, it also seems to have EV and the subject is apparently historically significant. --I'ḏ♥One 17:49, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Weak oppose per criterion 1. It's a very good image, and certainly would improve the article, however it's in a gallery, so according to the VP criteria it doesn't make a significant contribution and so does not have particularly high EV. Rearranging the article (perhaps expanding it) would definitely help. Nev1 (talk) 18:52, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Weak Support I think a main page viewer would click through to find out more about this subject upon seeing this image.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:23, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Weak Support per IdloveOne and Nev1. --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 01:24, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support Eye catching, and very indicative of Orthodox churches. Canada Hky (talk) 21:37, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Promoted File:Holy Trinity Russian Orthodox Church 071215.jpg --Edge3 (talk) 15:38, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This image has what one FP reviewer called an encyclopedic look. This is basically the type of image you would hope or expect to see for this type of individual, IMO.
- Articles this image appears in
- Eugene V. Debs
United States presidential election, 1904
United States presidential election, 1912
Railroad Tycoon II - Creator
- unknown
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:45, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support. J Milburn (talk) 13:31, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 01:21, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support Canada Hky (talk) 20:05, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Promoted File:Eugene V. Debs, bw photo portrait, 1897.jpg --I'ḏ♥One 03:44, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
- 10 days and it's got the votes. --I'ḏ♥One 04:01, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a high EV image
- Articles this image appears in
- Jon Corzine
New Jersey gubernatorial election, 2005
New Jersey in the 21st century
2006 New Jersey State Government shutdown
List of Governors of New Jersey
List of United States Senators from New Jersey - Creator
- U. S. Government
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:34, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. -- bydand•talk 15:23, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Why? --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 11:25, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Elekhh (talk) 21:07, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a high EV image with uniquer artistic content. Although it is smallish, it is still large enough that it is shrunk in use on WP, which means for the use we are evaluating its EV for it is abundantly large.
- Articles this image appears in
- John Marshall Harlan II
- Creator
- Gardener Cox
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:26, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. -- bydand•talk 15:24, 3 August 2010 (UTC)]
- The reason I opposed this is because I personally feel that the image further down in the article portrays him better. (I actually just swapped them) -- bydand•talk 18:56, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- I will be nominating that image in the near future.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:53, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comment Is it possible at all to get a bigger version? --I'ḏ♥One 05:10, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Elekhh (talk) 21:07, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- King Jigme Khesar Namgyel Wangchuck in traditional Bhutanese clothes. It is a very good picture of him with good quality
- Articles this image appears in
- King Jigme Khesar Namgyel Wangchuck
- Creator
- Royal Family of Bhutan, uploaded by Noodle snacks
- Support as nominator --Spongie555 (talk) 05:05, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
- Speedy close - Already featured --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 07:39, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --I'ḏ♥One 04:47, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Currently it's a rule that a FP can't be a VP. --I'ḏ♥One 04:47, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This image received a lot of positive feedback at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Alfred Caldwell Lily Pool despite its technical shortcomings.
- Articles this image appears in
- Alfred Caldwell Lily Pool
Alfred Caldwell
Lincoln Park, Chicago
National Register of Historic Places listings in Chicago
List of National Historic Landmarks in Illinois - Creator
- flickr user Digitalley
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:42, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. Sorry, but other than the OOF issue which is arguably less of a problem here, I think the other problems identified at FPC are as much an issue here as there (lighting, less than ideal composition). I assume this place still exists and is quite accessible, so I personally don't think it qualifies for VP either as the image should be quite reproducible; if it was no longer in existence it may be a different story. (Sorry for rambling a bit, but just seeing if I can help you understand where VP comes into play; as we've said before, it's not just a poor-man's FP.) --jjron (talk) 08:46, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
- Weak oppose. I do love this picture & it has great EV for the articles it supplements, but jjron is right--just from a quick Google search there are numerous pictures of the lily pool and some with better context, e.g. [1] or [2]. Being in the Lincoln Park Zoo, this image is readily reproducible and I think because of that it just isn't right for VP. & a comment--I think this image would make a suitable addition to landscape architecture, perhaps in the responsibilities section. Amphy (talk)
SupportWe've got valued pictures with bigger quality issues. --I′d※<3※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 20:58, 8 July 2010 (UTC)- Striking 'cause I voted again at the bottom. --I'ḏ♥One 16:12, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support The quality holds up FP but the guidelines for VP are that "An image's encyclopedic value is given priority over its artistic value.[1]" that is certainly met here.--Iankap99 (talk) 23:06, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose I already gave my response in the FPC nomination, I don't think this has the best possible EV for the "Lily Pool" since the article talks about a pond with lilies, and this is an image of a structure along side the pond. I think a better photograph can be taken that shows more of the pond. — raeky (talk | edits) 08:18, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
- I had misinterpreted your statement "since we're not worried much about technical issues but more EV issues and slightly blurry doesn't dramatically hurt the EV." 15:04, 1 July 2010 (UTC) to mean you would suppport at VPC.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:36, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
- Directly after that I say, "The only issue I would have there is that the image focuses mostly on the structure and not the pond, and I would consider an image showing more of the pond higher EV since although the structure is a main feature of the lily pool, it is afterall the lily pool the article is about." — raeky (talk | edits) 14:14, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
- I had misinterpreted your statement "since we're not worried much about technical issues but more EV issues and slightly blurry doesn't dramatically hurt the EV." 15:04, 1 July 2010 (UTC) to mean you would suppport at VPC.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:36, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose A bit too dark, no? I also agree with the previous comment that the photo is focused on the structure instead of the pond. Regent of the Seatopians (talk) 23:04, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
- Support Nice image --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 11:57, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comment I reshot this with my point and shooter this weekend. The sky was hazy and looks blown in most takes. I have two takes that are focused only on the pool with no sky. I will upload momentarily.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:44, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Comments on reshoot:
- Support as nominator (south southeast version)--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:54, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support south southeast It is pretty bright, but acceptable. Very pretty place, the kind of garden pond I want at my house some day. ;-) — raekyT 19:11, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comment. Will the reshot photo be added to any articles? As it stands it's only in VPC, but I imagine the SSE shot could easily replace the current picture of the Lily Pool. I think the SSE shot is VP material but I'm reserving my vote until this photo shows up in some articles. Amphy (talk) 01:39, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- If either image is approved it would be the main image at Alfred Caldwell Lily Pool, with the current main image and the other non-promoted version becoming a two-picture gallery. That is my intention, pending feedback from the interested parties here.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:05, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Got it. Thanks. Amphy (talk) 01:51, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- If either image is approved it would be the main image at Alfred Caldwell Lily Pool, with the current main image and the other non-promoted version becoming a two-picture gallery. That is my intention, pending feedback from the interested parties here.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:05, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Re:Reshoots - The Southeast one is the better of the two, the other one is overlit. I think this structure is probably a difficult one to find a 'correct' angle for a photograph, support original or southeast, oppose east. --I'ḏ♥One 04:42, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support South east. --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 11:58, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Opposesouth-southeast version currently. It needs to be rotated counterclockwise. Look at verticals on the structure. If this is fixed I will support. Jujutacular talk 13:59, 4 August 2010 (UTC)- Nice catch. Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:56, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you, support sse edit. Jujutacular talk 03:05, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- Nice catch. Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:56, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support SSE edit. Well done, Tony. Amphy (talk) 01:51, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comment I'm about to close this discussion, and consensus is currently leaning towards supporting the SSE edit. Please ensure that the image is being used in the relevant articles, and that all redlinks on the description page are removed. Edge3 (talk) 04:22, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- I would've closed this already, but I voted and commented in it. --I'ḏ♥One 04:04, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support the reshoot I am glad this didn't close, because I almost forgot to revisit this. Nice job, Tony. Regent of the Seatopians (talk) 00:43, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Promoted File:20100801 Alfred Caldwell Lily Pool from southsoutheast.JPG --I'ḏ♥One 04:54, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Promoted File:20100801 Alfred Caldwell Lily Pool from southsoutheast-2 cropped.jpg
- At the request of the photographer and a total of 4 votes in agreement, mild or otherwise, the promotion is moved to the cropped version. --I'ḏ♥One 19:14, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is such a catchy photo for me that I have to give this nom a try.
- Articles this image appears in
- Museum of Contemporary Art, Chicago
- Creator
- flickr user Kables
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:19, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Conditional Support if you rename the file... 6324640 e65159133a o doesn't tell me anything. Please don't rush finding pictures and putting them here as soon as you can.. -- bydand•talk 01:43, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Done now. --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 04:37, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support That is one sexy stairway.... Fletcher (talk) 01:47, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Weak support Yeah, it looks like something, doesn't it, Fletcher? Weak support because I like the architecture and colors, but I'm not sure a picture of a stairwell has much EV. --I'ḏ♥One 04:28, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support Nice picture, but what's educational here. --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 04:35, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support. According to the article "The stairwell in the northwest corner is considered to be the buildings most interesting and dynamic artistic feature", so I suppose the image has EV, but that's something that should really be in the nominating statement. What's with the vagueness? It's certainly interesting, but without context I was leaning towards oppose as why would a staircase be important. Nev1 (talk) 18:58, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Promoted File:Stairwell at The Museum of Contemporary Art in Chicago.jpg --I'ḏ♥One 05:11, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- The picture has good EV and has nice resolution.
- Articles this image appears in
- Jacobethan, 39 Welsh Row, Nantwich
- Creator
- Espresso Addict
- Support as nominator --Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 01:18, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Conditional support Good photo, but does the building have any historic significance besides its age? --I'ḏ♥One 05:04, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Grade II listed buildings are "nationally important and of special interest" for whatever reason. Nev1 (talk) 16:12, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support. Good image of the building which helps understand the structure; when it comes to articles on buildings, a picture really is worth a thousand words. Are my eyes going funny, or does it need rotating anti-clockwise slightly? Nev1 (talk) 16:12, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support per Nev1. --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 11:16, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support I like the light conditions, and is a very interesting building. --Elekhh (talk) 12:55, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Promoted File:39 Welsh Row, Nantwich2.jpg --I'ḏ♥One 05:23, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a high EV image of an important building that gives us great context of its surroundings.
- Articles this image appears in
- Trump International Hotel and Tower (Chicago)
Sixteen (Chicago restaurant)
List of tallest buildings in the United States
List of tallest buildings in Chicago
List of buildings taller than 400 metres - Creator
- http://www.flickr.com/photos/solarwind-chicago/
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:36, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support Interesting picture. --I'ḏ♥One 08:02, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support Magic, I was about to nominate this image but I saw it here! --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 11:07, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support Very eye-catching. Canada Hky (talk) 14:37, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Promoted File:20090518 Trump International Hotel and Tower, Chicago.jpg --I'ḏ♥One 05:31, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a high EV image for its primary use. In addition,
- Articles this image appears in
- Ping Tom Memorial Park
The Amazing Race 6 - Creator
- User:Torsodog
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:54, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support per nom. --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 01:52, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support It valuably illustrates the nature of the park exceedingly well. Greg L (talk) 05:54, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support OK for a valued pic Hive001 contact 20:13, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
Promoted File:Ping Tom Memorial Park pano.jpg --I'ḏ♥One 05:41, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- Well, it's Galileo. The image portays him perfectly, and I think even more so without cropping to just his face: it captures him better in my opinion. A recent nomination is the cropped, smaller version, and I think it is too small to be a VP, whereas this is just perfect portraying him, especially considering it's from 1636.
- Articles this image appears in
- Galileo Galilei
- Creator
- Justus Sustermans, most recent version uploaded by Dmitry Rozhkov
- Support as nominator ---- bydand•talk 19:04, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support. As it's a contemporary portrait this his great EV, and it's also detailed and of good quality. Nev1 (talk) 22:22, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support per above. --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 04:37, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Strong Support Great quality, size and its history significance is automatic EV. This should just about be a FP. --I'ḏ♥One 04:57, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Promoted Justus Sustermans - Portrait of Galileo Galilei, 1636.jpg --Elekhh (talk) 07:37, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- I think we should get one or so of her, not sure if we have one now and didn't care for the last nomination to be the 4th or 3.5th vote (her stance is uneven and she looked like she has lazy eye).
The alt was Picture of the Day on the Ossetian Wikipedia, created by the White House. - Articles this image appears in
- Michelle Obama · Inauguration of Barack Obama · Barack Obama
- Creator
- dbking on Flickr
- Support as nominator --I'ḏ♥One 06:14, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support I support the couple.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:10, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support the couple, --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 10:55, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support Edge3 (talk) 04:18, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Promoted File:Barack_and_Michelle_Obama_at_the_Home_States_Ball.jpg --Elekhh (talk) 07:37, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a high EV image in its article uses and is used in several templates.
- Articles this image appears in
- Dwyane Wade
Miami Heat
Conference USA Men's Basketball Player of the Year
2003 NBA Draft
List of 2010–11 NBA season transactions - Creator
- Keith Allison and edited by User:JoeJohnson2
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:50, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Weak Oppose - I think there'll be a better picture of Dwayne around soon. -- bydand•talk 16:07, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Elekhh (talk) 07:37, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Reason
- This is a great action shot and a high EV image
- Articles this image appears in
- Sherron Collins
Lute Olson Award
Key (basketball) - Creator
- User:Jfurlong
- Support as nominator --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:44, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. I don't see how this has high EV as you say. There are bound to be other pictures of this guy;
he's not entirely notable;the picture doesn't tell me much about him. Also, could it do with a crop? -- bydand•talk 15:25, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comment. I'm new to the VP process so please excuse any stupid questions, but what do you mean by "he's not entirely notable"? The article easily passes Wikipedia's notability criteria per WP:ATHLETE. Are yousaying that Collins isn't very important so neither is the image? Nev1 (talk) 18:42, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, I don't know what I meant by 'not notable', I think I was tired at the time. I just mean why is this picture more valuable than any other picture of him? -- bydand•talk 18:46, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- The point is that this is a technically superior image, IMO. It captures the subject in a way the enables the user to identify him very easily, which makes it high EV.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:38, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comment. I'm new to the VP process so please excuse any stupid questions, but what do you mean by "he's not entirely notable"? The article easily passes Wikipedia's notability criteria per WP:ATHLETE. Are yousaying that Collins isn't very important so neither is the image? Nev1 (talk) 18:42, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comment I think it would benefit from a tighter crop, to just focus on Collins. All the yellow in the background is very distracting, as are the players on the left. A crop doesn't need to remove Collins' action, just the extraneous parts of the image. It might end up a tad on the small size with a good crop though, which might mean a better image could be found. Canada Hky (talk) 19:56, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Not promoted --Elekhh (talk) 07:37, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- This one I regret not voting on, it is a pretty good action shot. --I'ḏ♥One 20:39, 25 August 2010 (UTC)