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Photo for an Actor

Hi ! I am a new editor on wiki. I am loving it so far - but wanted to know how i can put a photo up to a page I have just created? I have a photo that I took on my iphone of the actor at an opening night last year - can I use that? or do i need to get an official one from a pro photographer?

Thanks so much for the help in advance! TimT E Mclean (talk) 05:51, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

One by you is fine (as long as its of reasonable quality, of course)- in fact it is much easier, because you wont have to worry about copyright concerns. Just bear in mind that if you do choose to upload your own photo, you are surrendering any copyright; anyone can then download it and use it however they like, even if it is for commercial purposes, as long as they credit Wikipedia. That's the sticking point most pro photographers have about donating photos here; they are essentially giving up all their rights to a photo. Even if you commissioned one, they would still have to agree to giving up their own rights to it.

The usual method is to upload the pic to Wikimedia Commons,and link to it from there. Its pretty simple if you follow the directions; even I managed to do it :). Have a look at WP:IMAGES for all sorts of links and information.

I just had a look at Commons, and there is already a pic of an Alex Rathberger there, if its the right Alex. Curdle (talk) 08:18, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

How Often Is "Page Information" Updated?

Earlier today I was looking at the Wikipedia article on "Florence Nightingale". I noticed in the leftmost pane a link titled "Page Information". I clicked the link and say in the Basic Information section that Number of page watchers = 407. I then added the "Florence Nightingale" page to my watchlist. Now, 18 hours later, Number of page watchers is still 407. I assume it should be 408 since the page is on my watchlist. Does the updating of "Page Information" generally take 24 hours or more? Just curious. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by LindaPenn04 (talk • contribs) 02:05, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, LindaPenn04. I do not know how often watchlist counts are refreshed, but have you considered the possibility that one of those 407 people may have removed the article from their watchlist? Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:33, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

@LindaPenn04: I've just visited the Florence Nightingale page and checked the number of watchers. As at 3 minutes ago, it was 408. I then added it to my watch page, refreshed the stats page and the page view page and five seconds later it was showing 409 watchers. I removed it from my list, and 5 seconds later both paged reported one less watcher than before. I'm guessing that you might have needed to have cleared your browser cache to get the proper update. Anyway, just thought I'd mention it. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 03:25, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Nick Moyes:. Thanks for explaining. I've got a lot to learn! LindaPenn04 (talk) 08:32, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Where do I go to request page protections?

A page is being vandalized, but I don’t know where to go to request. 2600:387:1:817:0:0:0:C0 (talk) 15:05, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

• You go to WP:FRPP. Drmies (talk) 15:06, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

no

my question is that when i post an article what must it be like and is my post visible to everyone on Wikipedia. --MeKLT (talk) 16:11, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

There were several useful Wikilinks in the Welcome message on your user talk page. Have you read them, and is there something specific that you don't understand? When you hit the "Publish" button for any edit, the edit is visible to everyone on Wikipedia. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:20, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Is Nile river is longer than Amoson river?

Amazon is considered the world largest river by volume, but scientists have belived it is slightly shorter than Africa's Nile. The Brazilian scientists' 14-day expedition extend the Amazon's length by about 176 miles(284) km, making it 65 miles (105) kilometres longer than the Nile.

The Nile Delta is 100 miles long and 150 miles wide. The Nile River, considered the longest river in the world, is approximately 4258 miles (6853 km)long, but its exact length is a matter of debate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tanish Malvi (talk • contribs) 16:15, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Have you read List of rivers by length#Definition of length? --David Biddulph (talk) 16:27, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

New Article: Peace Sign (Usher Song)

Hello, I wanted to release a new article for the song Peace Sign by Usher. Sadly it did not work. The song is from Usher's latest album A with Zaythoven. In December 2018, even a music video was released. Could someone please create the article. Thank you.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 67Joey (talk • contribs) 13:49, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

References

Hello, 67Joey. Any article about this song (whoever writes it) will have to be mostly based on what people who have no connection with the song or its creators have chosen to publish in reliable places, so finding such sources is the absolute first thing to do before considering writing an article about any subject. Billboard is a reliable source, but the article you cite is based on an interview, so it is not regarded as independent. Links to commercial sites such as iTunes are not allowed anyway, and are certainly not regarded as suitable for references. It is entirely possible that it is TOOSOON for that song to be notable (in Wikipedia's special sense). --ColinFine (talk) 18:50, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi

is it wrong to visual edit? AviationHero (u.t.c) 22:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

No, you can edit using whatever you like.  Nixinova  T  C  20:13, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

How to use sandbox page?

The sandbox page (Mine is at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:MerielGJones/sandbox&action=edit) . How can I use it? I made my first page using it (a page which has since been moved elsewhere), and ever since my sandbox has had the text of that page (or, currently, a redirect about it) in it. Can I delete all this text without any effect (other than to clean out my sandbox)? Also, does the content in my sandbox become visible to all when I press the Publish changes button? I want to use it for what I think must be its intended function of drafting text but it is not obvious how to use the sand box. MerielGJones (talk) 21:31, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Hello, MerielGJones, and welcome to the Teahouse. Yes, you can reuse your sandbox as often as you like. When a page is moved, it automatically leaves a redirect behind, but you are free to delete that redirect from your sandbox, and put something else there, such as starting a new article. (You can get to the page by picking the "Redirected from" link at the top of the page it redirects to.) Alternatively you can start a new sandbox: you can have as many as you like, all with names like User:MerielGJones/Anything you like. The only special thing about the one called Sandbox is that a link to it automatically appears at the top of every page when you are logged in.

I believe the reason the Wikimedia Foundation decided to change "Save" to "Publish" was to clarify that whenever you save text, it is visible to the world: there is nowhere in Wikipedia that has private text. However, Sandboxes (and Drafts, and some other things) are unpublished in the sense that they are not in the main namespace of the Encyclopaedia; and more importantly, they should never be crawled by search engines, so they should never come up in a search except when you use the Wikipedia search function and tell it to look in the appropriate space (User, or Draft, for example). --ColinFine (talk) 22:08, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your very clear explanation. MerielGJones (talk) 22:57, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Change of article from List-class to something else

As part of an ongoing effort to improve the Syrian Civil War pages (see discussion on talk pages and "too long" note at the top), I have been thinking about merging the information under the "Timeline" section in this article to the Timeline of the Syrian Civil War article (with appropriate attribution, redirections, etc.). I notice that the Timeline article has a "list-class" rating, even though it already contains more information than the usual list type of article, and if I add more of the chronological narrative, it will grow in size again. Can this article be re-categorised, and/or does anyone else have any other bright ideas about how to reduce the size of the Syrian Civil War article? Laterthanyouthink (talk) 02:13, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

P.S. Now that I have reviewed the narrative in the Timeline article, I see that it is out of sync with the headings in the infobox on that page, which is what I was using to sync my headings in the Syrian Civil War#Timeline section... I am not sure how all of these overlapping versions of the same time spans in the war can be easily reconciled, and the chances are that they contain not only repetition, but contradictions or different versions of events, and there may be things mentioned in one version that are not in the others (multiple versions now include the main article, the Timeline article links listed under each year, the Timeline article narrative below that list of links, and the various links from the infobox (headings and sub-headings) in the Timeline article!). Laterthanyouthink (talk) 03:33, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Draft: Derek Piotr

hi all! i am trying to publish the draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Derek_Piotr many of the feedback points seem to revolve around using interviews as source material. Piotr has an extensive press section on their website https://derekpiotr.com/press all of which links to external articles. i am hoping someone can actively collaborate with me on resubmitting this article for publication based on these sources thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thedigitalskies (talk • contribs) 04:05, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Policies Re. Biography of Deceased Person?

I'm considering starting a biographical article about a deceased notable person. I understand the BLP policies and why they exist. Is there a set of policies specifically regarding biographies about deceased people? If someone could please direct me towards the guidance I should be aware of, that would be great. Thank you. – Kekki1978 talk 18:42, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

@Kekki1978: The BLP policy is special because it deals with the real life consequences our articles can have. So unless the person died recently (see WP:BDP), there is no special policy that deals with dead people per se, just the policies and guidelines that apply to all subjects. Of course, all articles have to consider whether they affect currently living people (e.g. descendants). Regards SoWhy 18:58, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

@SoWhy: Thank you, that perspective is helpful. Cheers. – Kekki1978 talk 19:05, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Hey Kekki1978. If applicable, there is a section of the BLP policy that addresses matters regarding recently deceased individuals. See WP:BDP. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:23, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Couldn't complete correct information of the Disney family page

I was loading correct dates to the Disney family page on the family tree section and when I got the information loaded, I could not get the correct uploading done. I got the correct dates from various family Find-A-Grave sites. Please check this out and complete the uploading process for the Disney family tree section on this page. MANY THANKS! Cristian.Cristian Petrea Disney (talk) 10:07, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

References

I have reverted your edits which broke the formatting. As you were told on your user talk page, because of your conflict of interest you should not be editing the article directly. You can use the article talk page to propose changes, supporting your proposal with reliable sources. Find-A-Grave is not regarded as a reliable source. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:18, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Should this song be a reference for this movie?

On the article for Stanley Kubricks' movie, "Dr.Strangelove", I was wondering if the song "Slim Pickens Does the Right Thing and He Rides the Bomb to Hell" by the offspring should be in the references section for the film. It references both plot points in the movie along with actors and characters from the movie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Happychickeman (talk • contribs) 14:02, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

@Happychickeman: That the song references the movie is original research and thus not allowed. If you can find reliable sources discussing this fact in a way, you can cite those instead. Regards SoWhy 14:22, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

New Editor and questions on Move

Hello! I started editing at Wikipedia back in 2004 but went on a long hiatus. I am back and working on spaceflight articles.

Some satellites have inconsistent naming. If I want to fix that, say, making them all caps for some missions, is Move the right move? And if so, do I have to then fix every reference to the satellite on other pages?

Thank you! --Neopeius (talk) 14:38, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

@Neopeius: Welcome back then! As for your question, I think you'd best ask the folks at WikiProject Spaceflight about that since that is a specialized area. Regards SoWhy 14:59, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Publishing an article

Good afternoon, I just finished my article and want to publish it. How do I do that? I worked on the German wikipedia and there is a button where you can shift your article with one click. I could not find it in the English version. Thank you very much in advance for your assistanceHNP-MUC (talk) 15:08, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

You are presumably referring to your draft at User:HNP-MUC/sandbox/Matt Dunkley? It is not yet in a state to be published as an article, as it has no references. Please read the advice at WP:Your first article. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:20, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Unable to paste in edit mode

I am working on an list on my sandbox page and I suddenly can't paste anything. I also tried on a page I commented on recently, and I have the same problem there. I can paste everywhere else, as far as I knoe. I'm guessing I hit something wrong that messed things up, but I have no idea what. Thanks. Aurornisxui (talk) 17:29, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Have you tried turning it off and on again? (by that I mean everything) WelpThatWorked (talk) 17:43, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

@WelpThatWorked: LOL! Yes, I had, but nothing worked. BUT, the good news is that this morning all is well. Thanks for the help. Aurornisxui (talk) 16:52, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

New article

Hi experienced people! I am new here and I was thinking maybe I could add a new topic for a game which is quite popular. I was asking whether I have to take permissions to write new topics Waiting for replies! Wiki user anonymous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiki user anonymous (talk • contribs) 17:04, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

@Wiki user anonymous: Anyone can use WP:AFC but all drafts must meet our general notability guideline to be approved. I've left more detailed instructions on your user talk page. Ian.thomson (talk) 17:07, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Creating a new article

I have been trying to create a new article on wikipedia. On my first attempt my whole user name was blocked on the basis that it represented an organisation. I created another account with my name and when I created the article the title of it was my username and was not allowed to change it. How can I create an article on wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeremy.Gilley2018 (talk • contribs) 15:52, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

You can find more information on article writing at WP:YFA. I'm going to ask @Ian.thomson: to help as he's the expert on article writing. RhinosF1 (talk) 17:12, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Can you post a link to the article? RhinosF1 (talk) 17:14, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Just noticed it was deleted by Ian which is why I can't see it. RhinosF1 (talk) 17:16, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict × 3) @Jeremy.Gilley2018: I've left instructions on your user talk page regarding editing with a conflict of interest as well as how to write articles that won't be deleted. Both times, you were not creating articles, you created user pages. As the founder of Impact Profile, you must disclose your conflict of interest on your user page. Also, you need to paraphrase, even if it's material from your site. We don't own the copyright to your material and when someone edits edits or revises a page that has material from your website, you're forcing them to commit copyright violations. While you could donate the text, it's just easier for everyone if you paraphrase. Ian.thomson (talk) 17:17, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

My draft was deleted, any way to please recover it so I can amend the faults?

My Draft 'The Secret Society of Super Villain Artists' was deleted. I had put a lot of effort into it but it was declined because of 2 references. Can i please recover it to fix what the problem was?

Thanks

Rotaholder — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rotaholder (talk • contribs) 17:51, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

As it was deleted under WP:CSD#G12 it's probably unlikely but I'm just checking that for you now RhinosF1 (talk) 17:58, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you ever so much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rotaholder (talk • contribs) 18:07, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

@Rotaholder: No, it can not be restored. Please read WP:YFA and WP: COPYRIGHT first as this will assist you. Also remember to sign your post on talkpages with ~~~~ RhinosF1 (talk) 18:11, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Very new and just want to talk

Hi I am very new to Wiki but already loving it - so much to edit and add as well. I have just had a welcome message and some useful links - I wanted to reply with a thank you, I presume I do this via 'talk' but am struggling what to do next to speak to the named editor and give my regards. As I say, so much to learn! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grammareditorialfan (talk • contribs) 19:05, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

The page you're welcome message is posted on is your own personal talk page. I'm going to ping the user who welcomed you though so he is aware of this discussion. (Pinging @Mattythewhite:) RhinosF1 (talk) 19:18, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Page I was editing was deleted. Can I get the page reverted to a previous approved version?

I made some edits to visualsonics.com and the page was deleted due to my edits. I was not able to fix. I would like to have it reverted to a previously accepted version, is that possible? If so how? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arunaadhya (talk • contribs) 2019-01-03T18:31:31 (UTC)

Arunaadhya, As the deletion notice on the article, VisualSonics says, you should first contact the admin that deleted it. The deletion notice says it was deleted by 331dot. That should be your first step. ~ GB fan 18:45, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Hello, Arunaadhya. VisualSonics was deleted on 14 November under criterion G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion. Not being an administrator, I cannot see the deleted page or its history, but I guess that the article had always been unacceptable, and the only role of your edits was to make somebody notice this fact. If you look at G11, it says that it is used for pages which are "exclusively promotional and would need to be fundamentally rewritten": this makes it unlikely that your edits could have damaged an article if it was not already fatally flawed.

Also for that reason, I think it is unlikely that 331dot, who deleted it, would be willing to restore it to you; but I have just pinged them in case they want to join the discussion. I suggest you have a look at User:ian.thomson/Guide#How to write articles that won't be rejected or deleted. Also, please remember to sign your posts on talk and discussion pages with four tildes (~~~~) --ColinFine (talk) 18:49, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

ColinFine's assessment is accurate. 331dot (talk) 20:29, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

How to re-name an article

Hello to Teahouse hosts. I wrote an article HERE: Mary Knight Benson and now believe the title I gave it could be improved. There are other Mary Bensons in Wikipedia and Mary Knight Benson does not appear when simply searching for Mary Benson. Perhaps her name would appear in searches if the title was Mary Benson (basket maker). If you understand what I am having trouble articulating, please respond. I would appreciate knowing how to make Mary Knight Benson display when searching for Mary Benson.Hu Nhu (talk) 06:04, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Hello Hu Nhu and welcome to the Teahouse. You will need to move the page to the new title. Make sure it meets WP:ATDAB. Regards ―Abelmoschus Esculentus ^{talk / contribs} 06:11, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Hello Hu Nhu, if she is most commonly known as Mary Knight Benson, then that should be the title of the article. If you want to aid in search, a redirect is the way to go. I will create a redirect from Mary Benson (basket maker) for you. —teb728 t c 08:12, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Hu Nhu. Mary Knight Benson is how the Smithsonian Institution describes her, and also books about Pomo Indians, and books about Native American basketweavers. Please see WP:COMMONNAME. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 08:53, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you to everyone for your responses. And editor actually made an excellent change HERE which I believe will do much good for readers who search for this article. I also understand his edit: what he did and how he did it.Hu Nhu (talk) 22:15, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Dont know how to categorize this article

I was thinking about writing an article about Tyler Trent. It’s not that there’s a lack of notability it’s just that he was just a college student when he died, however there are a surplus of articles from reputable sources, so if someonce could help with that, that would be great. Erfson (talk) 03:32, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

@Erfson: The first one which came to mind is Category:Deaths from cancer with its appropriate subcats to choose by the condition type (bone cancer) and country.

Of course the basic one would be one of Category:21st-century deaths subcategories.

You may also consider Category:Purdue University people, although students are generally not categorized under their univeristy name. I'm not sure, but possibly you can also use Category:Cancer research due to Tyler's donation of his tumor.... --CiaPan (talk) 10:37, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

@Erfson: I can see the article Tyler Trent has been created and it is assigned to lots of categories now :)
Best regards,
CiaPan (talk) 23:22, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Related to usage of an image on Women's rights in Jammu and Kashmir

Hi. I wasn't sure where else to get feedback from editors who aren't already involved with the page so I am asking here. Hope that's ok. I want to ask if the image currently used on the page Women's rights in Jammu and Kashmir is ok or not? (I placed it on the page on 25th Dec with a proper edit summary) Since then, the image has been removed by IPs twice recently without any explanation. I have even left messages on the talk pages asking for an explanation of the removal which has not been provided. I also have put a section on the talk page of the article just to understand the reasons for removal before the removal is finalised. The image could even just be shifted from the top of the article to somewhere below if it isn't suitable for the main image. I just want to understand why this image is being removed before it is removed.

Also, I want to ask if it is ok for me to continue placing the image back in the article if IPs do not provide a reason for the removal? Regards. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 00:43, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, DiplomatTesterMan. I see several problems with the photo. First of all, it is very dark. Perhaps the color and lighting can be improved with a photo editing program. More substantively, the women have unusual facial expressions and someone is holding one of the women's heads in an unusual manner. I find the photo confusing and to me, it raises more questions than it answers. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:04, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

"It raises more questions than it answers", I think that helps explain what I had in my mind. What is going on in the image???... apart from what the caption itself says. There is also no geotag... so all these reasons were piling up and I think now it can be removed. Also, I see Marchjuly has nominated the image for speedy deletion on Wikipedia Commons. So that also sorts this out. Thanks for the reply. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 01:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

As I posted at Talk:Women's rights in Jammu and Kashmir#Related to image on the page, this appears to be a copyright violation that Commons shouldn't keep. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:22, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the follow-up and explanation. Regards. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 01:26, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Russel the Sheep

i tried to make a page for Russel the Sheep when i first joined wikipedia, and had it quickly hidden and deleted, on the grounds that having an article about a children's book, and its main character was considered promoting a product. since Mickey Mouse, Mighty Mouse, Shaun the Sheep, etc, etc, etc all have pages on wikipedia, is there any reason Russel the Sheep still does not have a page? Longpinkytoes (talk) 19:15, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Longpinkytoes, there's no page called "Russel the Sheep" in either your contribution history or your deleted contributions. While we did once have an article called Russel the Sheep which was deleted, that was back in 2006 and read (in full) Russel the Sheep is a children's book. Russel is a sheep Russel is very cute. Russel can't seem to get to sleep. He tries different ways to fall asleep. None of them work. Most of the ways are silly. One of them is very ironic. The best part is that Russel has a very, very long hat., which you'll understand isn't what we're looking for.

Children's books are certainly appropriate topics for Wikipedia provided they're based on independent sources—that is, you need to show that other people, not connected to the author or the publisher, consider the book important. ‑ Iridescent 19:23, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

thank you! i suspect what happened is that i didn't wait long enough. i saw the book in the store and flipped through it and came home to add Russel to wikipedia because the people need to know! but it could have easily been on the first week after it was printed, making reviews to quote about the book a thing of the future. i just saw the original text you quoted and realised my writing has come a long way xD what is still not clear is how those 6 sentences were considered promotional content, and why recommendations couldn't have been made to work with the page rather than just deleting it. not really thinking about Russel at this point, but the 14-year dry spell that deleting a page can cause in a new wikipedia contributorLongpinkytoes (talk) 19:56, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

If you look at the deletion log you'll see that it was deleted not as being promotional, but under criterion A1. --David Biddulph (talk) 20:16, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

how do i look at the deletion log? i was told at the time that the reason was because it sounded like promoting a product. Longpinkytoes (talk) 20:30, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Assuming this is you, you weren't told any such thing. ‑ Iridescent 20:37, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Longpinkytoes. You can look at the deletion log by going to Special:log/delete, and entering the title of the page. On another subject: perhaps surprisingly, "the people need to know!" is not a good motive for adding material to Wikipedia: it is called promotion (which on Wikipedia is not limited to commercial topics). Unless the world already knows about it (in the sense that a couple of people who are not connected with the subject have chosen to write about it and been published somewhere reliable), Wikipedia is not interested. That is what is meant by notable in Wikipedialand. --ColinFine (talk) 20:47, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

For anyone interested, I recreated the article at Russell the Sheep and the book passes WP:NBOOK. MarkZusab (talk) 23:20, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

• Well done, MarkZusab. Thank you. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:07, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

well that's odd. not the same user at all but i remember trying to make that page too. all very helpful info though :) Longpinkytoes (talk) 23:37, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

@Longpinkytoes: Was it perhaps Russel the sheep (without capitals)? That one seems to have been deleted too... –FlyingAce^✈hello 01:39, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

paypal credit charge

I show a payment to wikipedia on my paypal credit statement for $11.00. I did not authorize this charge and would like it removed. thanks...............ken — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spokenhub (talk • contribs) 19:11, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

@Spokenhub: Hi and welcome to the Teahouse. Unfortunately, we cannot help you with such matters here since all donations go through the Wikimedia Foundation. Please send an email to donatewikimedia.org with your details and they will help you out. Regards SoWhy 19:55, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi Spokenhub. You might also want to check if a recurring payment or automatic billing is on in your Paypal account. Darwin Naz (talk) 01:42, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Multiple pages from the same reference

Hello!

Quick citation question that I couldn't find the answer for in the documentation:

Let's say I cite a book:

Then I want to cite page 102 but not have to have a completely new reference (the equivalent of ibid, I suppose). Is it possible to do that? If I have lots of cites from lots of pages, should I just put it as a reference at the bottom of the page?

References

Thank you for any and all tips! --Neopeius (talk) 05:01, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi Neopeius. There are a couple of ways to do such a thing. The easiest is probably to use the template {{Refpage}}, but you can use a variation of WP:SRF to do the same thing. The "refpage" template is bascially added to the end of a citation, wherever it's located, so it probably won't disrupt the existing citation style. Shortened footnotes, however, need to be formatted a certain way, which might not be the same as whatever the citation style is currently being used. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:23, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

My Draft on Anand Ranganathan was rejected.

Hi, The person in question has appeared on several media platforms. His work on Tuberculosis was also widely reported. He is author of 3 fiction books and has written multiple columns in various media platforms. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IndianHistoryEnthusiast (talk • contribs)

Hi, I did saw your article being moved back to the Draft page. While I saw multiple citations for the content, I don't know why did he do that. You may discuss it with the help desk. For now I'll look at your article and see if it meets our Notability guidelines. Regards, THE IP 182.58.205.181 (talk) 17:14, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your response, as per the guidelines 1. The person's research has had a significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources. His work on Tuberculosis was covered by various news organisations such as the Hindu, https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/science/indian-researchers-use-a-novel-route-to-kill-tb-bacteria/article18508931.ece. 2. The person has received a highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national or international level. Young Scientist, World Economic Forum, for the New Champions Summit, 2012 Young Scientist Medal of the Indian National Science Academy, 2007 Young Scientist Medal of the UDCT, India, 2006 The Person has also written multiple fiction books. The latest book, Rat Eater was covered by neutral sources. https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/10-must-haves-indian-whodunnit-love-story-tips-rat-eater-65665 — Preceding unsigned comment added by IndianHistoryEnthusiast (talk • contribs) 17:25, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

Hello IndianHistoryEnthusiast, after a quick look at the article, it seems to me that you would do well to find sources more independent than his profiles at JNU and anandranganathan.com. The awards are sourced only to the JNU profile. —teb728 t c 10:24, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi IndianHistoryEnthusiast. I did a bit of search of the subject and there could be sources you might take a look at such as a Brookings Institution article citing his work on tuberculosis as well as the coverage on his controversial Twitter posts. I could not find any additional source for the awards although I found an entry about him at the World Economic Forum website. Darwin Naz (talk) 01:33, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Darwin Naz I have added some more sources, including Brookings institute, World Economic Forum and TED and have resubmitted it.IndianHistoryEnthusiast (talk) 06:26, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you to editors

Hey guys I'm just coming to a realisation of what Wikipedia is and I want to thank all of you editors and hosts and everyone else involved.

In my opinion the work that you do is of benefit to all of humanity.

I'm not much of a philosopher but one of the only constants that I seem to have found in life is the virtue of the truth.

I hope I am not proven wrong by my optimistic interpretation of this community but if you all are who you seem to be. I'm amazed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mkmatthewkoehler (talk • contribs) 08:12, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, please let us know if you have any issues. RhinosF1 (talk) 08:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Do i really need to know any indepth knowledge about programming or other IT related subjects to contribute successfully ?

I tried to contribute some information for existing articles and found it easy but when I am trying to create new articles in English or Telugu I am unable to use complete resources. I want to be a continuous contributor to Wikipedia. whenever I go to any experienced Wikipedian's page I always want to be like them. so please give me some information regarding article creation and usage of all the features. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pularaviteja (talk • contribs) 06:02, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

@Pularaviteja: Hi and welcome to the Teahouse. Have you tried using the Visual Editor? It streamlines a lot of the editing and allows you to use simple masks to input information. Regards SoWhy 08:29, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Is the subject I want to write about is "notable"

Can I, as a company employee, write on one of the company's products which is under development — Preceding unsigned comment added by REODTGEAMR (talk • contribs) 09:56, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

@REODTGEAMR: Short answer, no. Long answer, please read our conflict of interest page and, especially if you intend to receive financial compensation for the work, our policy on paid editing. Generally, unless it has received substantial coverage from independent reliable sources, future products are not considered to be notable. Sorry.--Jasper Deng (talk) 09:01, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

I agree no employee should be able to edit information about their own company although I have no idea how Wikipedia works, I'm literally 30 mins fresh to editing.

What did you write about it? If it is a neutral product description, I don't see that being an issue. Only if you were saying something that could be interpreted as promoting a product in some way would I see it as a conflict of interest.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mkmatthewkoehler (talk • contribs) 07:25, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

@Mkmatthewkoehler: In theory, that would be fine. In practice, that's next-to-impossible when you have a conflict of interest. It would be very difficult to write anything negative about their product, even if reliable sources exist for it. That's why we strongly discourage conflict-of-interest editing at all. It's not a strict prohibition in order to allow for the rare exceptions.--Jasper Deng (talk) 08:37, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

The fourteenth citation of "immigration"

The fourteenth citation only demonstrates that 50% of variability explaining a random citizen of the Earth's personal income is explained by nationality. It is only evidence that some countries have more wealth than others

It does not as is inferred make any reference as to whether immigration between countries of varying development levels reduces overall/total poverty rates.

If I should attempt to remove the citation some other way than through this chat please let me know. Since the page was locked I was unaware what approach to take. Thanks.

Mkmatthewkoehler — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mkmatthewkoehler (talk • contribs) 07:13, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

The citation is still there. I think the last person to edit the page is very biased maybe he/she prevented the change from happening. He/she replied to my post by linking me to a whole bunch of positive studies on immigration. Which I'm sure are all true but I fear he/she is preventing the removal of the irrelevant citation. Help please!

The person in question is @Snooganssnoogans

Never mind she didn't link me anything I just saw her recent edits to the page since it is in my watchlist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mkmatthewkoehler (talk • contribs) 08:57, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Mkmatthewkoehler 3:38am est (someone please help with a sinebot or whatever you sign things with lol) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mkmatthewkoehler (talk • contribs) 08:40, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse Mkmatthewkoehler, Immigration has been protected from editing by new users since 29 May 2015 to protect it from persistent vandalism. When your account is 4 days old (you already have more than 10 edits), you will be able to edit it. Until then you can discuss your concerns on the talk page, Talk:Immigration—which is a good idea anyway. BTW, please sign your posts here with 4 tildes ~~~~ which creates a signature like this —teb728 t c 09:13, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Gambling articles

Hi there, How can I found the list of articles on Gambling thematic, that is need to be reviewed. I have more than five years of experience in this niche, and I could be useful to wiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kachuralexandr (talk • contribs) 08:39, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

You can find more information here. RhinosF1 (talk) 09:22, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

How to publish an Article

Hi, I want to publish an article on my company, can anyone teach me how to publish an Article on Wiki? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Habil.Naqati (talk • contribs) 13:50, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

You must not. Please read about conflict of interest, and the mandatory requirements regarding paid editing. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:59, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Could someone please help improve article?

Hello, I'm looking for help in improving Draft:Mark Biltz and eventually move it to the main article section. Could someone please help? Thanks in advance. --Omer Toledano (talk) 06:05, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Delete all the references that are interviews with Biltz or barely mention Blitz, and the content written that rests on those references, and then see if you have enough left to justify an article. David notMD (talk) 14:19, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Questions on Articles

Hello, I had two questions:

(1) What is the correct procedure to deal with poorly written articles (not copyvios) of notable subjects? Personally, I prefer to move them to Drafts for the article creator to improve. But, in a few instances, I have seen them getting speedily deleted. Isn't that unnecessary?

(2) Articles that were deleted via the AfD process years ago "might" have gained in notability presently. Can one go ahead and recreate the articles? Or, should one take permission from the deleting administrator/s first?

Thanks for your time. Csgir (talk) 04:27, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Csgir. Routine editing of a poorly written article itself can improve the quality of that article, and this can be done on a step by step basis. It is not proper to draftify or delete based only on a poor writing style. I suggest that you begin with rewriting the lead.

If you are confident that a topic has gained significantly in notablity since deletion of a previous article, then yes, write a new article. Familiarize yourself with that previous AfD debate, and be prepared to explain convincingly why notability has developed. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:31, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

To add to what Cullen said, per our policy at WP:IMPERFECT, anything that can be fixed should be left in mainspace for the precise reason that only then the flaws will exposed to a larger number of people who in turn might be willing to fix them. Regards SoWhy 08:32, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

@Cullen328: Exactly my point. Routine editing needs time and when speedy delete tag is added, often it is too late to do anything about it. Sometimes, new editors write a line or two and move it into mainspace or the language is borderline advertorial in nature but the subject is notable - in such a case, if a speedy decline tag is added, can I decline/remove the speedy delete tag and work on the article or help the article creator work on improvements? Please suggest. Requesting @SoWhy: to help with this as well. Thank you. Csgir (talk) 14:10, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

@Csgir: If you think the reason for speedy deletion stated does not apply, you are allowed to remove the tag from any article you did not create. Regards SoWhy 14:41, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

In the Shadow of Greatness

No question. Just wish to have my son's name corrected. Lt. Richard F. Andersen. Andersen with an e; not an o. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.4.79.49 (talk) 15:44, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Done. My sympathies for your loss. David notMD (talk) 15:51, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Article

Hi, I want to publish an article on my company. Any volunteer out there who will help me in this regard can reach me on twitter @HabilNaqati. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Habil.Naqati (talk • contribs) 14:15, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Articles can be requested at WP:RA RhinosF1 (talk) 15:24, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Editor HN has been blocked for undisclosed paid editing. David notMD (talk) 15:46, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

@David notMD: Thanks for informing me RhinosF1 (talk) 15:52, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Wallace Smith Broecker has 9 great grandchildren now

It just needs to be updated. Thank you for promptly restoring my grandmother’s name to his page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.115.176.25 (talk) 16:10, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Citation? WelpThatWorked (talk) 16:14, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia only summarizes professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources. It is not a social media site for its subjects or their families. Ian.thomson (talk) 16:15, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Dead Reckoning

there are two wikipedia pages with conflicting opinions about the etymology of Dead Reckoning,

[1]
[2]

the talk page [3] seems to be slow moving so maybe this is a good candidate for tea time?Longpinkytoes (talk) 13:46, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

I don't see a conflict. The article Dead reckoning states with a reference that the term predates "Ded. reckoning." The Glossary of nautical terms has a definition for Ded. reckoning and states that this abbreviation for "Deduced reckoning" is often mistakenly referred to as "dead reckoning" David notMD (talk) 14:27, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Hmm. It's a difficult one. I do see that as a conflict,David notMD, but it turns on just what "mistakenly" means. It is clear from The Straight Dope that the phrase was "dead reckoning" for centuries before some etymythologist decided around 1930 that it must be an abbreviation for "deduced reckoning" (which phrase, incidentally, Google ngrams has no figure for before 1920, apart from a blip in the 1840s). So in general terms no, it is certainly not a "mistake" to use the phrase "dead reckoning". But it is possible that the bogus form has become standard in nautical use, so in that field "mistakenly" might be justified.

I've never encountered the "ded. reckoning form before today. I wondered if it might be a BrE/AmE difference, so I asked Google ngrams: it did not find a single instance of "ded reckoning" in British books, and only half the incidence of "deduced reckoning" that it found in Americon ones. COHA (the Corpus of Historical American English) has incidences of only "dead reckoning". Interestingly, the GloWbE corpus (Global Web-based English) shows 140 instances of "dead reckoning" from round the world, 3 of "deduced reckoning" (2 from Canada and 1 from Malaysia), and precisely 1 of "ded reckoning" (from Canada). The iWeb corpus (which doesn't group sources by origin) lists 925 "dead", 14 "ded", and 9 "deduced". Perhaps sailors don't post on the web much.

Since the section in Glossary of nautical terms is unreferenced, Longpinkytoes would be justified in removing the section entirely. I would be inclined to rewrite it, using both names, and giving a (very short) summary of what The Straight Dope says. --ColinFine (talk) 15:23, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

The use of "dead" to mean sure, unerring dates back to 1592 according to the OED. There is no such word as "ded" in British English. I agree that the section should be either removed or rewritten. Dbfirs 16:55, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

What is with the mass change of the Title of 'President' among current and former Presidents here in the US and abroad?

Hello,

I noticed on the Donald Trump wikipedia page that the word 'President' in the page's header is now lowercased, so it is with Former Presidents. Yet, on Jair_Bolsonaro page and Emmanuel Macron page, both have the word 'President' uppercased as well.

I am curious as to why the mass-changes? I have always been accustomed to see 'President' uppercased on Wikipedia pages (when it should). But why in the headers of some Presidents it is lowercased but in others it is not? I even checked https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Biography which is understandable for the most part.

I am just wondering as to why is there inconsistency about the capitalization of 'President' among US Presidents compared to South American or European Presidents? Why not have the term 'President' capitalized in the headers of pages?

Thank you! --Aviartm (talk) 07:33, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

@Aviartm: Iirc, consensus is that "president" is lowercase when it refers to the job title but uppercase when it refers to a certain person, e.g. "President Obama" but "American president". See Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biography#Titles of people for more details. Regards SoWhy 08:25, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

@SoWhy: Alright but what about the other Presidents, like Bolsonaro and Macron? --Aviartm (talk) 17:51, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Please remove a redirect

I wish to write an article on the Joint Assault Signal Company (JASCO) USMC. Unfortunately when I WP search Joint Assault Signal Company I get a redirect to US Army Signal Corps if anything it should redirect to ANGLICO. The Army Signal Corps has it’s own history whereas JASCO’s were joint service WWII units,they served in the Pacific and European theaters. In Europe there were US Army personnel assigned to JASCO’s, in the Pacific under command of the 5th Amphibious Corps,US Navy, primarily staffed by United States Marines,with US Army personnel attached, they were the forerunner of the ANGLICO units USN. The US Army Signal Corps was founded in1860. Please remove the redirect that an article can be written on JASCO. I could do this myself but fear I would break links or mess something upOldperson (talk) 17:41, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

I can't help as I'm not really sure of everything I would need to check but I've read your userpage and I'm shocked at what you've been through, I hope it works out in the end. RhinosF1 (talk) 17:54, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi Oldperson, I've asked the Military History Wikiproject to assist as the redirects (there's more than one involved) seem to be a a bit complicated. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:19, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict)@Oldperson: Hi and welcome to the Teahouse. Removing a redirect is easy, just look for the text "redirect from ..." near the top of the page and click the title of the page you were redirected from. You can then edit that page like any other and replace it with a page about the topic itself if the topic is notable. See Help:Redirect for more details. Regards SoWhy 18:25, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Oldperson. Looking into the history of the United States Marine Corps Joint Assault Signals Company page, it looks like there was originally a stub article there before later being replaced with the redirect.

The way I see it, there are a couple of good options:

1. If you think you already have the making of an article ready to go, please feel free to give me a shout, and I can help you replace the redirect with the text (going through the steps SoWhy mentioned);
2. Alternatively, if you want to work on the article in a public area (with collaboration from other editors), you can create a draft article, and then we can look at replacing the redirect with the article once it's at a suitable stage.

And as Roger mentioned, we have a WikiProject dedicated to collaborating on military history articles, so please feel free to leave a message on the talk page about anything you're working on (or even get involved)! — Sasuke Sarutobi (push to talk) 18:39, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

@Sasuke Sarutobi:Thank you very useful. I am researching and formulating an article. And I think it best to put it in draft first. However I would like the redirect removed first as it is entirely misleading. If anything JASCO should redirect to Air Naval Gunfire Liason Company and not US Army Signal Corps. or maybe both. JASCO was the predecessor or parent as it were of ANGLICO, not a detachment of the Signal Corps, the Army did have it's own JASCO's in the European Theater. ANGLICO is an existing unit. JASCO's are not. A parallel is Air Force Combat Control Teams,, their ancestral heritage is the U.S. Army Pathfinders in WWII, and are today part of the Air Force Special Tactics Squadrons, which performs a variety of combat duties from Air Traffic Control, Weather,Pararescue and Forward Air Control (TACP).I will certainly join the Military History Project. Thanks for that adviceOldperson (talk) 19:38, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Regarding the Omega Recording Studios Page

Hello! I am new to editing on Wikipedia and I would like guidance on expanding the Omega Recording Studios page. I added a bunch of content but it was removed and I am not sure how to add the content back in and make it meed guidelines. Is there a way I can submit my edits as a draft and have the community help me make it appropriate for Wikipedia? Thank you!--Nicholas Springer (talk) 17:30, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

@Nicholas Springer: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Since you state that you work for the studio, you will first need to review and comply with the conflict of interest and paid editing policies(the latter is a Terms of Use requirement). As you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid direct edits about your studio, but you may make edit requests on the article talk page(click that link to review). I would note that we cannot accept content that you have posted to your company website unless your company waives copyright through a message on its website(which they probably will not want to do) or donating the content. As an encyclopedia, we are only interested in what independent reliable sources state about article subjects. 331dot (talk) 17:40, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

@331dot: How do I comply with those policies? Is there something I need to sign? Also how about all of the other studios/audio schools that have wikipedia pages that violate all of the things our page is being flagged for? I just want to put up the information I had, I tried really hard to make it objective and non-promotional... Either way, thank you all for the help. I hope I can get our page updated.

@Nicholas Springer: Those policies describe how you can comply; typically this is done with a statement on your user page. It is also a good idea for to to openly state your COI in edit summaries and/or on article talk pages of relevant articles. I would let you know that it is not "your/our page" but an article about your studio. While we welcome your input as we would with any other editor, studio employees have no special rights to edit or control the article.

If you know of other articles that improperly have copyrighted information on them, or are written by editors with an undeclared conflict of interest, feel free to point those out(but do not out other editors). As this is a volunteer project, it is possible for inappropriate content to get through, sometimes for years. However, each article is judged on its own merits, see other stuff exists. Improper content on one article does not mean that your improper content is allowed.

Please understand that Wikipedia is not for merely telling about a subject like a company. As an encyclopedia, we are only interested in what independent reliable sources state about article subjects. For someone in your position to be successful, you need to make edit requests and essentially forget everything you know about your company, only writing based on what independent sources state(unless it is something purely factual like location, number of employees, etc.). 331dot (talk) 18:32, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

@331dot: I proposed an edit request but it denied due to "promotional puffery" and now the entire article is being considered for deletion. I am looking for advice on how to properly go about requesting edits for a page, or perhaps a draft? I am not opposed to starting the page over from scratch but I would really like someone to help with edits since I am unable to due to COI. Please help!

I have posted on the article talk page, I would suggest further discussion take place there. 331dot (talk) 20:47, 4 January 2019 (UTC)