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Renaming Draft

Could someone with admin privileges please rename https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:John_Ferrar_(Virginia_settler), to John Ferrar (Deputy Treasurer, Virginia Company). Not only is the tite (Virginia Settler) inaccurate but it is confusing. It isnot the title of the article I produced in my sandbox. Thank youAlvanhholmes (talk) 12:47, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

 done - page moved to Draft:John_Ferrar_(Deputy_Treasurer,_Virginia_Company) you don’t need to be an admin to do that. Having done this however, I should mention that before moving it to main space the final article title might want revising a bit. Please read this bit of information about natural disambiguation. When using brackets after a title to clarify it we usually try to use the most concise method possible. If it can be cut down to one word that would be ideal. Edaham (talk) 15:16, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

@Edaham:Thanks you very much for your help and advice. There are, unfortunately, a few things that I don't understand. You said you moved the draft, and you don't have to be an admin to do that. Question: How did you move the draft and is the old draft still there? I did read the bit about Natural Disambiguation, and I have a question on that. What Would the Title John Ferrar Deputy Treasurer, Virginia Company be disamgbiguous?. I would like to name the article John Ferrar Deputy Treasurer, Virginia Company But I didn't think that was allowed. Is that permissible? If so how do I "move" it.It wasn't me that put the title in brackets. I believe that I had originally titled it as John Ferrar Deputy Treasurer and when it was moved to drafts: who ever moved it retitled it.

There is a similar situation with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:John_Ferrar_(Lincolnshire_esquire), when I submitted it, the name was changed. I would like it renamed John Ferrar the elder of London. I realize that it is rather long, but it should not be named Lincolnshire, as he was a wealthy London Merchant, and Lincolnshire was just one of many counties in which he owned property, Alvanhholmes (talk) 17:56, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

@Alvanhholmes: articles about people normally have the person's name as a title, and if there are several articles about people with the same name, a clarification is usually added within parantheses. The description in parantheses should be as brief and specific as possible. More information here. However, I would not worry about the names of the draft articles; if they are moved into the main encyclopedia, the reviewer who accepts them should also make sure that the article title conforms to the manual of style. --bonadea contributions talk 18:08, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
User:Bonadea - I respectfully disagree if you are saying that the title of a draft doesn't matter. I don't know about other reviewers, but, as a reviewer, I try to give a draft the title that I think it is likely to have if and when it is accepted. I moved the two drafts from AH's sandboxes and had to guess what titles they should have. "The elder" isn't useful in a stand-alone article on one person, except in cases usually from ancient history where "the elder" has already been become part of the standard designation of a person, such as Pliny the elder who has long been called that to distinguish him from Pliny the younger. I tried to give these drafts the best possible titles, because I think that the subjects are probably notable. I was very briefly thinking of accepting the drafts, before I had reviewed them and realized that they needed a lot of rework, starting with copy-editing. As a reviewer, I think that titles of drafts in draft space should be the titles that are proposed for acceptance. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:07, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
I actually did not mean to imply that the titles don't matter - I simply wanted to point out that spending time on discussing the titles of drafts that are still not ready to be accepted into mainspace is not the most important aspect. I agree with you about the titles of these drafts. --bonadea contributions talk 21:49, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

@Bonadea: Thank you for your suggestion and link to manual of style. It gets confusing on one hand I am told to use John Ferrar (Trasurer... and on the other to use John Ferrar the Elder. One user told me to split the subjct (two John Ferrars) into two articles, another suggest that I incorporate them into one called Farrar Family. (I do not like that option anymore). While I deal with this issue could you possibly help me by changing the title of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:John_Ferrar_(Lincolnshire_esquire) to at least John Ferrar (London_Esquire. thanksAlvanhholmes (talk) 19:01, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Moving

User:Alvanhholmes - Read the instructions on moving a page. Moving a page renames it, but it normally leaves a redirect at the old location, so that both the old title and the new title can be used to find the page. Moving can be done in draft space, in article space, from draft space to article space, or almost anywhere in Wikipedia. Accepting an article is done by a script that moves it from draft space to article space and makes historical changes to it. Any autoconfirmed editor can move a page, unless there is a page protection, which is not the case here. (There are special types of moves that are limited to admins and to page movers, but those special types of moves are not involved here.) Yes, as you said on my talk page, there are a lot of details that you can read about. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:07, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

I just wanted to create a redirect in Mesannepada page... (sorry for my english)

...but I don't manage to pass the editorial barriers because I do not have enough English. I thought it was enough to click on the red link Tell el-Obeid, write Tell al-'Ubaid in the model for redirect, but I face editorial warnings as if I were a novice (indeed, I'm a novice in WP:en. It seems to me that it is simpler on WP.fr, without wanting to offend anyone nor deny the need to guide the new editors. Zythème (talk) 21:23, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

@Zythème: You make the redirect correctly and it was not turned down because of English. There are no warnings on your talk page.
The problem was you created the redirect in draft space instead of in article space. I have moved it to article space. Ian.thomson (talk) 21:34, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for these explanations ! Zythème (talk) 21:54, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Query

If I wanted to change my username globally, then how to do so; and if I did that, what will be the side-effects? Harsh Rathod Poke me! 09:23, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Special:GlobalRenameRequest ―Abelmoschus Esculentus 09:57, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

No, I don't want to change. The current name is fine. Harsh Rathod Poke me! 18:15, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Then why did you ask this question? ―Abelmoschus Esculentus 06:47, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Probably for future reference, in case he ever wanted to.Mineblock6641 (talk) 22:17, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

i did something stupid.

JojokeGodFunhand (talk) 14:30, 18 November 2018 (UTC) I deleted the speedy deletion thing and can you help me? [1]

References

  1. ^ https://soundcloud.com/shokkbutt/ruining-songs-forever

What do you mean by "speedy deletion thing"? Mineblock6641 (talk) 22:19, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Edit Suggestions?

I have done all I think can be done with my (first) article on the Czechoslovakian Vz. 53 Helmet. Are there any edit suggestions for this article so I can get it out there as soon as possible? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JacobMinor33 (talk • contribs) 00:19, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

@JacobMinor33: I recommend going through and replacing some of the sources. Try to stick to professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources. Anyone can write blogs or put sites up on Weebly or open entries on Ebay or post on forums. Avoid any source with "wiki" in the name (such as this one), even Wikipedia. Even if a personal site looks nice, if the author is not a recognized authority then it has not been vetted for fact checking.
I noticed that you largely wrote the article and then added sources to it. That's the hard way. The easy way to write an article about anyone or anything is to:
1) Choose a topic whose notability is attested by discussions of it in several reliable independent sources.
2) Gather as many professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources you can find. Google Books is a good resource for this. Also, while search engine resutls are tnot sources, they are where you can find sources. Just remember that they need to be professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources.
3) Focus on just the ones that are not dependent upon or affiliated with the subject, but still specifically about the subject and providing in-depth coverage (not passing mentions). If you do not have at least three such sources, the subject is not yet notable and trying to write an article at this point will only fail.
4) Summarize those sources left after step 3, adding citations at the end of them. You'll want to do this in a program with little/no formatting, like Microsoft Notepad or Notepad++, and not in something like Microsoft Word or LibreOffice Writer. Make sure this summary is just bare statement of facts, phrased in a way that even someone who hates the subject can agree with.
5) Combine overlapping summaries (without arriving at new statements that no individual source supports) where possible, repeating citations as needed.
6) Paraphrase the whole thing just to be extra sure you've avoided any copyright violations or plagiarism.
7) Use the Article wizard to post this draft and wait for approval.
8) Expand the article using sources you put aside in step 3 (but make sure they don't make up more than half the sources for the article, and make sure that affiliated sources don't make up more than half of that).
Doing something besides those steps typically results in the article not being approved, or even in its deletion. I have sources for an article that needs to be written (red plastic gas cans) on my user page. Ian.thomson (talk) 00:26, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Is using a photo from an instagram account fair use?

I want to use a photo from an instagram account on a WP page. I just want to be sure that using a photo from an instagram page doesn't violate the WP rules. Here's an article I came across.[1] Wikimikey423 18:35, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Wikimikey423. Simple answer - no. You are most definitely not entitled to take any image from the internet or social media and use it on Wikipedia unless that image is very clearly associated with a licence from the copyright owner, releasing it for non-commercial and commercial use (CC-BY-SA). There are some exceptions for 'fair use' (see Wikipedia:Non-free content), but that almost certainly won't apply to instagram posts that people have taken of them or their friends. We take image ownership very seriously, and you should not rely on what that some web article says, but follow either Wikipedia's own rules (see Wikipedia:Image use policy), or, if you're thinking of uploading to Wikimedia Commons, Commons:Licensing. Hope this clarifies things for you. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 20:35, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks Nick. Wikimikey423 04:03, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ https://wersm.com/no-your-instagram-photos-arent-yours-and-someone-else-can-sell-them-for-90000/

Page Approval

When will my page be approved and how do i make sure it is as accurate and reliable as possible? How long does the approval process take? link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kiefer_Dixon — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emilycwilliams (talk • contribs) 03:54, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Emilycwilliams. You have not submitted your draft for review and it definitely will not be accepted if you don't submit it. But please do not submit it now because it would almost certainly not be accepted. Your draft has only one reference and that reference is not properly formatted. That reference is an interview of this skateboarder in Norwood News, a local biweekly. Interviews are not independent sources and do not establish notability. Acceptable Wikipedia articles summarize what multiple reliable, independent sources have written about the topic, which is Dixon in this case. Please read and study Your first article and Referencing for beginners. You will need to provide references that show that this skateboarder is actually notable, as Wikipedia defines that term. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:18, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Work with you

Hey there!, I am an Arabic-English, English-Arabic, Spanish-English, Englsih-Spanish, Spanish-Arabic and Arabic-Spanish translator with experience over 3 years. I am also an Arabic teacher for non Aabic speakers for more than 3 years too.

I wonder, how can I work with you? I really like your passion and your purpose to improve the internet ant to make a better place.

I have more than 5 years in experience as a volunteer, so I know what does to do something for the world mean.

I am really interested, and looking forward to hear you soon!

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.202.204.222 (talk) 07:14, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Hello, IP editor. I recommend that you consider setting up a Wikipedia account. Although this is optional, it has the great benefit of facilitating communication with your fellow editors, which is very useful when you have translation skills. The choice is yours. Please start by reading Wikipedia:Translation and associated pages. Please feel free to ask any follow up questions here at the Teahouse. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 07:53, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Question

I have clicked a picture of a football match on an other device . How do I transfer it to commons ? 223.176.85.76 (talk) 07:18, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Start here:[1]. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:14, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Correcting incorrect use of hyphens in music titles?

If someone released an album titled "Something - Something else", would the article use that title or replace the hyphen with a dash ("Something – Something else")?  Nixinova  T  C  20:12, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Nixinova and welcome to the Teahouse. Goodness, that's an interesting and extremely challenging question to answer. Whether I shall manage it, I'm not fully certain. So this comes with a caveat that it's just my view on quite a tricky area, that often only concerns editors when we're talking about articles graded by peer review as either Good Article or Featured Article. Firstly, it's worth reminding ourselves that we have three different dash-like symbols:
  • -(hyphen)
  • –(en dash)
  • —(em dash)
We have the hyphen on our keyboards, but can select the other two symbols by selecting/clicking them from the'special characters' feature in the editing window. Their usages are described in our Manual of Style (shortcuts: MOS:DASH and MOS:HYPHEN. In normal usage a hyphen never has spaces next to it as its purpose is to link one word which modifies the other. So your typing of "Something - Something else" with a hyphen surrounded by spaces is wrong to start with, but I take it that that's how some illiterate record company issued it, rather than your error! An en dash is always used with a space either side of it, whilst an em dash never has spaces.
Now, a song like Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da (or 2-4-6-8 Motorway) uses hyphens, and searching for Ob – La – Di, Ob – La – Da (with en dashes) doesn't yield a valid result. I think the use of hyphens in both examples is appropriate
But there's an interesting guideline in MOS:DASH which states "In article titles, do not use a hyphen (-) as a substitute for an en dash, for example in eye–hand span (since eye does not modify hand). Nonetheless, to aid searching and linking, provide a redirect with hyphens replacing the en dash(es), as in eye-hand span."
Because users are extremely unlikely to be searching with anything other than standard keyboard characters, it would not be at all appropriate to change or create an article with a title so that it contains unusual characters (such as en dashes or em dashes) unless it was very clearly clear that the album was originally named that way. I think in that circumstance the advice in WP:TITLESPECIALCHARACTERS applies, namely that a WP:REDIRECT should then be created, allowing users to deploy standard keyboard characters in their searches, yet still be directed towards the unusually formatted title, much in the same way as they should be directed towards articles containing accented letters (e.g. Emile Rey, which redirects to Émile Rey) .
But in your question you are asking whether or not to unilaterally change standard hyphens used in naming an album (and thus in a Wikipedia article) to one containing these unusual characters and I can't see any justification for that. I certainly don't think that WP:COMMONNAME is likely ever to apply, as we name articles depending upon popular usage, not what the subject is officially called, and I doubt the general media would be likely to deploy en dashes or em dashes in lieu of hyphens in album titles. But maybe you have examples that suggest otherwise?
So, to sum up: Don't unilaterally change hyphens to dashes but, if you feel you really need to, just ensure you create a redirect using hyphens to help users find the article under its other format. I will be interesting to discover whether others editors here agree, or if have different views on this, or whether I've missed something fundamental in my reply to you. Either way, I hope all this waffle (TL;DR?) helps a little, and perhaps you'd enlighten us by telling us the name of the actual album you're thinking of,or any naming dispute you're having? Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 02:03, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
Hello, Nixinova. This is the philosophy that has brought me great success in avoiding dash-hyphen wars in almost ten years of editing Wikipedia: Whenever I want to add a little typographical horizontal line anywhere in Wikipedia, I just click the most accessible key on my smartphone, and move on. If any editors want to to come along and change those little horizontal lines to slightly larger little horizontal lines, then "more power to them!" I simply will not argue about it. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 07:43, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
Sometimes the pragmatic answer is the best answer!! Thanks Cullen328. Nick Moyes (talk) 10:01, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

I need help with publishing the draft article I created

Hi..... I created a draft article about a notable British-Nigerian Journalist, Chukwuemeka Nnamdi Asinugo, but until now it has neither been reviewed nor deleted. Can someone please help me with the article? I really want it to be visible to the public. I created the draft article since a month ago. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fredrick Maximum (talk • contribs) 10:02, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

@Fredrick Maximum: Your draft has not been submitted for review; if it were, however, it would be rejected as it reads like a resume or list of accomplishments, and not an encyclopedia article. It also has no independent reliable sources with significant coverage to support its content. You should read Your First Article to learn what is expected of new articles and perhaps also use the new user tutorial. 331dot (talk) 09:51, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Replying to "Talk"

Hello, I made my first edit. John from Idegon commented here about how it seemed to violate rules of conflict of interest. I didn't know how to reply so that he would know that I was replying to him so I put my reply on his "talk" page. Now I can't find that reply, called "Highwood, IL" in the subject, I think. So I'm basically wondering how you reply to a "New Section" so that it alerts the person who wrote it. Thank you! Judy — Preceding unsigned comment added by JStrikerToo (talk • contribs) 08:12, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi JStrikerToo. I'm not sure what you're asking, but your posts to John from Idegon can be found at User talk:John from Idegon/unprotected#Re: Highwood, IL. It also looks like you posted the same on User talk:John from Idegon, but then removed the post yourself for some reason. As for notifying someone of a post, there's no real need to do so when you post something on their user talk page since the system should automatically let them that someone has posted something new or otherwise edited the pafe. If, however, you post something on a general noticeboard (like the Teahouse, etc.) or an article talk page, then you can let them know as explained in Wikipedia:Notifications. -- Marchjuly (talk) 09:54, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
(e/c) Welcome to the Teahouse JStrikerToo. Your initial reply was at User talk:John from Idegon/unprotected, which is a special page John from Idegon set up for use when his main talk page was protected (which it is not now). You did well with that reply: You provided a Subject/headline. and you signed your post with four tildes ~~~~ It would have been better if you had pinged him with {{u|John from Idegon}}.
Your later reply on your own talk page was a better place for a reply, for it kept it together with his original post. This reply would have been better if you had signed it with ~~~~ and if you had begun both paragraphs with a colon (:) as the first character of the line (a leading colon causes indentation like in my reply here). —teb728 t c 09:56, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
Separate from reaching John, my opinion is that you have a conflict of interest, even if not paid, and more to the point, I agree with his opinion that what you added was unsourced promotional junk. Better to have a short description and a reference. David notMD (talk) 13:16, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

I need some help with the page Guangdong Museum

Is it acceptable to use "delicate" or "great" here?

Architecture

The design of the museum, comprising a kind of multi-layer, delicate, transparent spatial configuration, was inspired by the traditional Cantonese ivory puzzle ball, which is characterized by a delicate stack of carved ivory, similar to an onion... The ivory puzzle ball represents the great technique of Cantonese vernacular craftsmanship. Therefore, as a cultural symbol, the ivory sculpture gives the museum both a meaningful spatial concept and cultural resonance.

Thanks.James Booker fan (talk) 06:17, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

The answer is, it depends on the context. The paragraph reads as a little flowery and over promotional, a bit like a brochure for the museum. A very nicely written brochure, but not quite suitable for an encyclopedia. It is also completely unreferenced. "Delicate" appeared twice in the same sentence; that may be why it got removed. The way "great" is used reads oddly, (why is it/what makes it great?; does it mean wonderful, or big, or?).
There is WP:TERSE - says among other things, that subjective qualifiers should be avoided. WP:FLOWERY also mentions words to avoid. The information surrounding those two shortcuts is pretty good if you are looking for writing tips and general style guide. Not really relevant to this query, but good for general writing, wording and a laugh, is WP:ASTONISHME Curdle (talk) 14:06, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Not sure if this is the correct place/Need help with blank map subdivisions

If anyone can help me find (or make) a version of the map below with some subdivision borders it would be much appreciated.

For clarification, I punched into google 'blank world map with subdivisions' and the dimensions required (so that countries don't get warped when resizing) and it came up with zero results, so it needs to be 2664 x 1224, in other words, this exact map, but with subdivisions.
Thanks,
-Abbazorkzog (talk) 18:56, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
Hello Abbazorkzog, Have a look at the Commons category Borderless maps of the world without Antarctica. Several files there may suit your needs. Vexations (talk) 19:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Notability - Article flagged for deletion - Procedural questions!

I hope this is the right way to ask my question... I recently created a page about Phineas Pratt, a historical figure who is noted on the Plimoth.org and Pilgrim Hall sites, as well in numerous stories of the first years of the Plymouth/Pilgrim Colony, as he was a contemporary chronicler and an actor in those events. It was flagged for deletion due to notability. My question is around the best way to handle such a flag and if I took all the appropriate steps. I went to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Phineas_Pratt and added a KEEP note (which I guess I cited with the wrong type of linking—I had read another entry and was trying to follow suit—but I think I cleaned it up after I was called stupid. ;D ). This morning I received an email saying the page had been reviewed by Barkeep49. I also received a separate note saying the page had been edited today (11/24) by Barkeep49, but there was no summary and I don't see any evidence at all on the page. The AfD flag is still present. Can someone help me to understand what a review means, and if there is something I should be doing but have not to establish the notability of my subject. Thanks very much in advance. Darcyjae (talk) 14:58, 24 November 2018 (UTC)


Hi Darcyjae, and welcome to the Teahouse. You've done the correct thing in voicing your opinion at the AfD discussion. Barkeep49 is part of a group called New Page Patrolers, who are experienced editors who review page creations by less experienced editors. There was a discussion amongst NPPers regarding marking new articles which have been sent to AfD as "reviewed", and no issue was found with doing that. The reasoning is that the article will go through the AfD process, which will result in several editors taking a look at it, so there will be no need to review it after the AfD discussion is closed. Either it will be a Keep, and stay in Wikipedia, or it will be a Delete, and be deleted. I've pinged Barkeep in case my interpretation of their action is incorrect. If an article hasn't been sent to AfD, when it is "reviewed", that means that an experienced editor has looked at it, and found no significant issues with (or if they have, they will leave a tag on the article, explaining any issues). Certain actions on a page, including "reviewing" it, don't count as an actual edit, and therefore do not appear in the history of the article. However, if you look at the top of the history page, you'll see something called, "View logs for this page". If you click that, you'll see those other actions, including Barkeep's. The AfD tag will remain until the AfD is closed, which (except for special circumstances) lasts a minimum of 7 days. It can last longer, if the discussion doesn't have enough participation. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 17:27, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
@Darcyjae: I can understand your confusion. Onel5969 describes my actions correctly. My review here was more procedural than a true review I would normally do on an unreviewed article because the article was already nominated for deletion the community will be making a decision on the suitability of this topic for the encyclopedia. While I'm here let me offer a suggestion: try to keep your AfD comments brief. I commonly see newer editors go on at length and frequently this can hurt their cause because some other editors will skip reading the comment altogether or skim it over. Onel has now cast a !vote that could serve as a sample (!vote = means not a vote. The ! is a programmer symbol for not. We say it's not a vote because Articles for Deletion isn't really a vote, it's a consensus discussion based on policy). Hope that helps. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 18:01, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
Thank you very much for the clarification and adviceOnel5969 and Barkeep49! I appreciate you taking the time to reply. Cheers.Darcyjae (talk) 18:21, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

@Darcyjae: I would like to enter one criticism for the sake of historical accuracy. In the opening sentence you claim that this man was one of the first settlers of the United States.. Do you realize that the Company of London had approved three charters before the one that recognized the New England settlers. [reply to|Darcyjae]In fact the "Pilgrims" had departed Plimouth for Virginia and stopped at Plymouth rock to replenish their supply of potable liquid (beer). That the first settlers were arrived in Jamestown in 1607, with more arriving after and by the time the "Pilgrims" stepped off onto the rock they called Plymouth, there were thousands of Settlers living in the territory now called the U.S.A., so Phineas most certainly was not among the first, and indeed the "Pilgrims" were not the first or among the first. They were the first to settle in what we now call Massachusetts, and at the time of both settlement, neither were colonies of England, that didn't happen until the King dissolved the Charters that authorized the ventures (settlements) and made them colonies and that was in 1628 if I recall correctlyAlvanhholmes (talk) 21:50, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

@Darcyjae: Apologies. Either your article on Phineas was corrected after my comment (checked the history and no record) or the information that got to my brain, such as it is, was not the same as you had written, for I checked back and indeed you said he was among the first settlers of New England, unlike some I believe that admissions of error are not a sign of weakness, but strength. Takes guts to admit that you are wrong..Alvanhholmes (talk)

California National Party

Hi,

I am the National Chairperson for the California National Party and our Wikipedia page keeps getting falsely altered to indicate that our party has dissolved. However, that is not true.

Is there any way to prevent these false edits proactively? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theoslater (talk • contribs) 21:58, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

@Theoslater: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. If it is a habitual problem, you can request temporary page protection at Requests for Page Protection; however, that is only a temporary measure at least initially. Vigilance is the best way to see what is happening to the article. (for other readers of this, the claim that the party has dissolved doesn't seem to have a source) Thank you for clearly stating your affiliation with the party; if you haven't already, you may wish to review the policy on conflicts of interest just so you are aware of it and what the guidelines asks of you. 331dot (talk) 22:05, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

What is the point of the Sandbox if you don't understand how to use it as a new user?

I am a new editor of Wikipedia and have zero experience in editing. I thought the Sandbox was a space where you can attempt to learn how to create or edit articles. My initial attempt at editing has been rejected by another user and now I am wondering what my next step is. Can anybody please instruct me what the process involves in getting the ten edits confirmed so as to be a verified editor? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by W.L.Maher (talk • contribs) 21:48, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

@W.L.Maher: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I think the source of the confusion here is that you submitted your sandbox to be reviewed as an article draft, when I don't think that's what you intended to do. If you just want to edit your sandbox, you can do so without submitting it for a formal review as a draft article.
Regarding creating articles, please understand that doing so is probably the hardest thing to do on Wikipedia. It takes much time, effort, and practice. New users are much more successful at creating articles after they have spent time editing existing articles and working their way up to article creation. This allows them to get a feel for what articles should be like and what is required in them. New users who dive right in to creating articles often end up disappointed and with hurt feelings as their work is mercilessly reviewed and possibly deleted because they are not aware of what is being looked for. I don't want that to happen to you. I strongly suggest that you find existing articles in topic areas that interest you and make any needed minor edits to them, and then gradually work up to more substantive edits and later, article creation. You should also use the new user tutorial which will help you.
If you still want to go right into creating articles, you should read Your First Article, and then use Articles for Creation to create and submit a draft for an independent review before it is formally placed in the encyclopedia, so you get feedback on it beforehand, instead of afterwards when any article will be treated more critically than if it were a draft. 331dot (talk) 22:12, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

How to cite a magazine covering two months

I would like cite an article in a magazine that is a multiple-month issue, say, "January / February" for a certain year. I haven't been able to make the "date" parameter accept the "January / February year" string as a parameter. Is there an appropriate way to do this, other than, say, choosing the first month (i.e. having the parameter be "date=January 20XX") and having the reader infer an understanding of what it signifies? Thank you. Kekki1978 (talk) 18:59, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

As a supplementary (and hypothetical) question to Kekki1978's, I'm familiar with some magazines that (sometimes in addition to the above) print 13 issues a year, with the last being designated "Christmas" or "Winter". Can either of those be entered in the "date" parameter? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.200.131.235 (talk) 21:42, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
From the template documentation, Cite Magazine accepts (month and year, season and year, or year), so Winter will work (although that is intended for a quarterly publication Spring/Summer/Fall/Winter). I don't see it stated, but you can also use "Jan-Feb" for a bi-monthly. MB 00:05, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
Great, thanks for the help. Kekki1978 (talk) 00:39, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

For Draft:Aurora_Gulli what is the best way to certify the age?

Would it be possible to send a photo of the id so that the age of the young lady can be certified — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agulli (talk • contribs) 16:15, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

I don't think that would be valid because anyone can fake a photo of an ID. What you need is an independent WP:Reliable source that gives the age or date of birth. If you can't find that, then don't include an age in the article. Dbfirs 16:44, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
In my opinion, confirming her age with a citation would not make the draft notable. The situation appears to be that an inventor added the names of his three children as co-inventors to the U.S. patent application, issued as patent 9,811,102. This made his daughter Aurora a very young patented inventor. David notMD (talk) 02:22, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Habung

Habung is a small place in Dhemaji.. Habung got its significance after the arrival of Tai prince Sukapha

Habung is derived from Tai Ahom origin Means Ha= "5" Bung = "to become king"

As Habung was the Fifth capital of Ahom dynasty, and sukafa was the founder of Ahom dynasty.

If anyone visit habung then one can find the ruins of Ahom monuments.. Now recently CM of Assam sarbananda sonowal donates 2 corores to habung for the rivival and to save the Ruins of Ahom history .

Also Ahom people now a days perform their Traditional rituals like ma-dam-ma-fi. Also Bihu was to celebrate here — Preceding unsigned comment added by Koncheng (talk • contribs) 16:53, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Koncheng, and welcome to the Teahouse! It looks like you're discussing the Habung region. You'll want to post your comments on the talk page of the article, at Talk:Habung, so other interested editors can see them. Also, please remember to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~) to let others know it was you who posted them. Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia! — Newslinger talk 04:48, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Nicola Loporchio

Hi everyone, need your help. I've submitted two days ago an article for "Nicola Loporchio", as mentioned in the subject/headline, but it seems some links or font are missing. So, since I'm pretty unexperienced with this kind of stuff, I'd like for someone to help me or even point me out what I shall still credit, so I can add notes.

Hope someone can help me and thanks in advance.

Best, Marco — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marco Squicciarini (talk • contribs) 14:12, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Marco Squicciarini, and welcome to the Teahouse! I took a look at Draft:Nicola Loporchio, and it looks like other reviewers determined that the draft doesn't have enough references to reliable sources be published as an article. Wikipedia has notability guidelines that article subjects (including musicians) must meet before an article can be published about them. This helps keep the information in articles accurate.
If you're looking for more sources on Nicola Loporchio, a good place to start is Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Sources, which provides a huge list of recommended sources on music-related topics. If you can find at least 2 reliable sources that provide significant coverage of Loporchio, and then add them to your draft, your draft will most likely be eligible for publication.
If you have any other questions, please feel free to ask me. Also, please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~) so others know it was you who posted them. Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia!​ — Newslinger talk 05:03, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Translating an article about myself

There is an article about me in the Spanish Wikipedia (es:Daniel Eisenberg). I did not write it, and didn’t know it existed until six years after it was written. It has been translated into French and Esperanto.

If I translate it to English for this WP, would that violate a policy? deisenbe (talk) 14:22, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Deisenbe, and welcome to the Teahouse! Since you're the subject of the article, it would be a good idea to submit your article as a draft, and then declare your connection on the talk page of the draft with the {{Connected contributor}} template, to ensure compliance with the conflict of interest guideline. Other than that, I don't see any policy or guideline issues. Non-English Wikipedias may have different notability requirements than we do here, but it looks like you meet WP:NACADEMIC as a distinguished professor. Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia! — Newslinger talk 05:18, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Need help with an article

Hi,

I wrote an article and it was declined by AfC. Legacypac said, I could ask for help here.

This is the article: Draft:Zenkit.

Zenkit is a project management software with a coverage all over the world. It's in the German Wikipedia in the meantime because there are more press articles which I could use (I used German and English press).

Because I'm in a conflict of interest, I need help with this article. I would be happy about any advice. --Jessica Lu. (talk) 11:21, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Jessica Lu., and welcome to the Teahouse! First of all, thanks for taking the time to declare your conflict of interest. I see that Legacypac declined Draft:Zenkit because it doesn't show that Zenkit is a notable application. Wikipedia has notability guidelines to help ensure that only accurate information gets included in articles.
However, I also see that you've added a ZDNet review and a PC Magazine review of Zenkit to the "External links" section of the page. In my opinion, these two reviews do show that Zenkit meets the general notability guideline, and does qualify Zenkit for an article. However, these reviews are only linked to the articles, and aren't cited as references. If you revise the article to include content from the reviews, and cite those reviews inline, your draft will probably be accepted on your next submission.
Also, please consider condensing the list of "viewing modes" in the "Product" section of the draft into prose, since that is the preferred form of writing. If you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to ask me. Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia!​ — Newslinger talk 05:36, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Dynamic list numbering

There're multiple lists on Wikipedia (e.g. List of countries by government budget) where the ranking order (the first column) doesn't change based on the parameter I sort the list by. Is it possible to make it dynamic (i.e. so that the rank changes based on the parameter I sort the list by)? And if so, how do I do that? Openlydialectic (talk) 08:48, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Question from an invitee

Why did you invite me — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnLiu1 (talk • contribs) 22:34, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi, AnLiu1. We try to invite all new editors here, because this is a place especially for newer editors to ask questions and get hopefully simple to understand answers about how to edit Wikipeda. Is there anything we can assist you with? John from Idegon (talk) 02:32, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
AnLiu1 Since you joined Wikipedia yesterday you have made 29 edits to articles about Dr. Who episodes, every one of which has been reverted. Perhaps you should ask at the Talk pages of those articles what is wrong with your intended improvements to the articles. David notMD (talk) 12:54, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Is this Harassment / Wiki-bullying?

User:Mhhossein removed a quotation from the MEK's lede section complaining that there was a "Wikipedia:Non free content#Text" violation. I responded that the lede had only three quotes, so there wasn't an issue, but in an effort to work with his request I would restore the quote he removed (which had been allowed to be included via Talk page consensus) and paraphrase the remaining two quotes. The user subsequently threatened to report me, and then he did here.

This user has made false accusations against me several times now trying to get me sanctioned:[3] [4], [5], [6], etc. (the user has been previously warned about having strong POV and being particularly hard of hearing, has a habit of reporting other editors that disagree with him, and has been part of more than a few reports at ANI: [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21]).

Are his continuous false accusations and casting aspersions a case of WP:HARASS / WP:BULLY? Thanks in advance for your help. Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 10:46, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

  • OMG, you were just warned two times against the violation of copyright by an admin, that's why I reported you after you did more violations. Is that what made you bring plenty of unrelated things here? Get informed that "Unfounded accusations of harassment may be considered a serious personal attack and dealt with accordingly" and that usually ANI deal with such cases. --Mhhossein talk 11:24, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
  • I am not admin, but from reading the first two of his reports it certainly does sound like harassment. If I were you, I'd just report them to admins in the most polite sense possible without explicitly accusing them of harassment (just phrase it like an inquiry) and let admins decide whether Mhhossein should be sanctioned or not. I personally think that a short-term ban (e.g. a week) might be sufficient here, but them was already warned for such behaviour so who knows, maybe them deserves a harsher sentence. All the best. Openlydialectic (talk) 12:12, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Something weird happened when I tried to edit an article

I was editing the Mildred L. Batchelder Award page by adding the new 2018 winner and honors. But when I finished, the section below, "Multiple Awards and honors" somehow popped into the "Recipients" table. I tried undoing my changes and starting over, but it still happened. I'm not sure what to do. If anyone wants to edit the article themselves, then here are the official results: http://www.ala.org/alsc/awardsgrants/bookmedia/batchelderaward/batchelderpast

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Professor Encyclopedia (talk • contribs) 03:14, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

@Professor Encyclopedia: You forgot to put the closing bracket (|}) at the end of the table. Ian.thomson (talk) 04:13, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Okey-doke, thank you! I will try that!--Professor Encyclopedia (talk) 15:59, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

No longer supported midi (.mid) files in Wikipedia articles

midi files are used extensively in some Wikipedia articles but no longer seem to be supported by modern browsers such as Firefox and Chrome. This seems a shame given their small size, distinction from waveform encoded formats like OGG/MP3 and widespread use in the music industry.

What shall and can we do to remedy this?

  • Abandon their use and wait for piecemeal replacements/updates?
  • Batch convert all hosted media to OGG Vorbis?
  • Lobby browser creators to continue support?
  • Update the documentation on playing media (which vaguely suggests installing VLC which doesn't support midi)

Interval (music) is a page that uses midi files in perfectly appropriate circumstances (so I understand), to define and contrast exact musical pitches. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackalus Again (talk • contribs) 21:08, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

FWIW, I'm using Firefox (on a Windows PC) and have no trouble in listening to the files in that article. When I click on one, Windows offers me the option of opening it in the Windows Media Player or choosing another app: WMP plays them without any problem. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.200.131.235 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:39, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
My Firefox under Windows does the same. In Opera (web browser) and Google Chrome, I have to download the midi files first, then I can play them in Media Player. I can't remember what extensions I downloaded many years ago. As I expect you know, MIDI files are not sound files, they are instructions for creating sound files, and what the resulting waveform sounds like depends on the emulation software that creates the sound. Dbfirs 09:01, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
Well, the problem mentioned by the OP is that browsers don't support playing those files themselves (anymore). It's not a Wikipedia problem. If you want to embed a midi file for listening, use the {{Synthlisten}} template which will convert the file to ogg and play it inline. Regards SoWhy 16:11, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Howie Wyeth Musician

You have this information stated incorrectly. Howie Did Not die in 1996. "Wyeth died of cardiac arrest at St. Vincent's Hospital in Manhattan on March 27, 1996" It was several years later. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phyllisanncollins (talk • contribs) 16:19, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Can you find an obituary for a WP:Reliable source? Dbfirs 16:23, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi Phyllisanncollins and welcome to the Teahouse. I think perhaps it is your memory that is faulty, unless you are accusing the New York Times of publishing "fake news". It was a Wednesday. Dbfirs 16:26, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
I was also able to find the NYTimes obituary dated March 29, 1996 stating HW died Wednesday (3/27) of that week. David notMD (talk) 16:37, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

/* Biography */

Hi I created a biograghy page which lies in my sandbox. How do I make it live in the main Wikipedia page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pinkturban (talk • contribs) 19:54, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Pinkturban, and welcome to the Teahouse! It looks like you've already submitted the draft at User:Pinkturban/sandbox for review, and I've just moved it to Draft:Samina Naz. If a reviewer determines that the draft is ready to be published, it will be moved into the Wikipedia article space.
Since there's a long list of drafts that need to be reviewed (the list is currently 1,150 drafts long), you might have to wait a while before a reviewer gets to yours. Right now, the average wait time is about 4 weeks, but it may take more or less time since drafts are not reviewed in order. In the meantime, feel free to improve your draft.
If you have any other questions about editing, please feel free to ask me. Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia!​ — Newslinger talk 20:08, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Good article

I want to nominate the page Manchester United F.C. for a good article . What do I do ? 223.176.83.244 (talk) 07:48, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi there, and welcome to the Teahouse! To make a good article nomination, please follow the instructions on this page. Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia! — Newslinger talk 08:12, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
@Newslinger:I have nominated it , what next ? 223.176.83.244 (talk) 08:23, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
That is a Featured Article, which is a higher level of quality control than Good Article. If you intended to suggest that the article be downgraded to Good Article, you need to use Wikipedia:Featured article review, not make a GA nomination, but before you do that you have to use the article talk page to describe the issues you have with the article and give other editors a chance to discuss and fix any problems. I have removed the GA nomination since the article is not eligible for that. --bonadea contributions talk 08:43, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
Oops, I neglected to check the article. Sorry about that. Bonadea's advice is spot-on. Also, please note that the {{replyto}} template won't ping the person you're addressing unless you create a Wikipedia account, so it might take a bit longer for others to respond. — Newslinger talk 20:16, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

User Page

I just wanted to ask, is my user page good? Do I have to edit it in any way? Denkiden (talk) 20:01, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Denkiden, and welcome to the Teahouse! Your user page is fine, and the user page guidelines don't require you to put work into it. Many editors are happy with a short user page or even no user page at all. If you have any questions about editing, please feel free to ask me. Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia! — Newslinger talk 20:23, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Adding an entry about a person

I have read the requirements for creating an entry. I want to create and entry about a person and their contributions to the motorcycle riding community. This person is really not knows anywhere outside the community but he has made significant contributions to the Northern California off-road riding community. The way I see it it's more about what he has done than getting his name in lights, etc. It seems to me that the wikipedia requirement that there be publicly available web pages regarding a person before creating a wiki page is a chicken and egg problem - I want to create an entry about this person and what he has done precisely because there is no other information about him. Can anyone help me with how I might approach this? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scottttaggart (talk (talk • contribs) 21:33, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

No one is going to be able to help you create an article about someone who hasn't been written about in reliable sources. That is the way we create articles. ~ GB fan 21:51, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

What is deemed 'OK' when it comes to images?

So I recently got ahead of myself and added a few images to Wiki Commons and used them for a few pages (or articles? not sure what's the correct term).

Is it okay to take a screenshot of someone in an video you find online and claim that screenshot as your own? Am I even allowed to use screenshots of someone else's video? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tubulartopher (talk • contribs) 21:13, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Absolutely not, Tubulartopher. That would be a violation of Copyright, which is illegal, and will rapidly get you banned from Wikipedia if you persist in trying to do it. Please read the previously linked item, and also Wikipedia:Copyright and the article Copyright, because you need to understand the issue very thoroughly if you want to post material anywhere on the Internet. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.200.131.235 (talk) 21:48, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
Here [22] is a page about what you can upload on Commons. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:48, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
@Tubulartopher: as the IP says, it's not allowed to take screenshots of videos that are copyrighted on the internet (this includes YouTube videos without a Creative Commons notice). Unfortunately, you already have some images uploaded to Wikimedia Commons that already violate the policy. I have therefore put 4 of your uploads up for speedy deletion. As all people in which you've edited in are still living, that also means you can't use a "fair use" image here either; it violates non-free content criteria #1 "No free equivalent", because it's still possible for people to snap a picture of that particular person and release it under either a free license or public domain. theinstantmatrix (talk) 23:47, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
@Theinstantmatrix: Okay, my sincerest apologies. I've looked over a good bit of the rules and it wouldn't surprise me that I misinterpreted some of it, I'll make sure to look over it closer in the future. I had a feeling I was not doing something right and that’s why I came to you with my question. I'm somewhat new here, how do I go about deleting the images for you? I'll make sure the screenshots won't pursist, you can trust me on that one. ~~Tubulartopher
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