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Susan118

Username
Susan118 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
User_talk:Susan118/Archive_1
Description
Archived my talk page for the first time, creating the archive page triggered the Michael Jackson vandalism filter. (I have participated in discussions on the Michael Jackson articles, but there are no links to or mention of them in my talk page)
Date and time
16:59, 30 June 2009 (UTC) (This actually happened 23:13, June 28, 2009)
Comments

The filter is 'inherently' broken. I removed the tagging function. Cenarium (talk) 18:19, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Lavenderx

Username
Lavenderx (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence (filter log)
Description
Making the word "Avalon" italicized and adding its date of release (2001). Was given the message: "An automated filter has identified this edit as potentially unconstructive, and it has been disallowed. If this edit is constructive, please report this error."
Date and time
02:21, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
I have now done the edit for you (see here). Due to a single word in the paragraph you were changing, this edit looked to the Abuse filter like a specific sockpuppeteer who we are trying to stop; I don't think I should give any more details. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 07:44, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Erik9

Username
Erik9 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
User:Erik9/edit list
Description
Does filter 194 identify any new page which includes the substrings "Michael" or "Jackson" as "Possible Michael Jackson vandalism", as its record of false positives [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] indicates? If so, the filter would be ripe for immediate decommissioning. Indeed, the filter appears to be malfunctioning to such an extent that it flags new pages with no discernible connection to Michael Jackson at all [6] [7] [8]; a flood of false positives renders the abuse filter feature useless, as well as insulting new editors who may perceive that they are being accused of "vandalism" in page histories. Erik9 (talk) 23:17, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Date and time
23:08, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments

Snek01

Username
Snek01 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
Iberus gualterianus
Description
I tried to add {{delete|bad name, correct name is Iberus gualtieranus}} into the wrong page. Snek01 (talk) 23:02, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Date and time
23:02, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments

So I added the delete template to the discussion page. --Snek01 (talk) 23:08, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

The correct procedure is:
  1. Move the page to the proper title, or list it at WP:Requested moves if you can't.
  2. If the page is relatively new, and the old title is an "implausible typo", then tag the redirect with a {{db-redirtypo}} tag.
עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 07:56, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Brian Eetar

Username
Brian Eetar (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
Sagan 4
Description
The page had some formating problems causing texts which shouldn't be on the same line, to be on the same line, I was inserting blank lines between them in order to seperate them 89.138.198.129 (talk) 20:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Date and time
20:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
I restored your autoconfirmed status, so, you can edit normally now. Ruslik_Zero 12:34, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Dylant2011

Username
Dylant2011 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
Bayarena
Description
I was editing the Bayarena page and i put some new organisation to the stub article and it told me i had excesive white space Dylant2011 (talk) 02:12, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Date and time
02:12, 26 June 2009
Comments
I see you aligned the parameters so the equal signs would line up. In so doing, you included several spaces before most of the parameter names. You may have to tolerate the whitespace filter if you are going to do that. Wknight94 talk 12:53, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

spencerz

Username
spencerz (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
List of Parental Advisory albums
Description
I was adding entries to the article. I clicked save changes and a filter came up stating that the changes I made were unconstructive. I only added albums, and did nothing more. I believe the unconstructive filter may have been activated by the names of some of the albums.
Date and time
13:22, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Your abuse log is empty. I do not any evidence that you was stopped by a filter. Ruslik_Zero 19:00, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
From this, I'd guess you edited as an IP. You may need to create an account and gain more experience here before such edits are allowed. Wknight94 talk 12:56, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
I added "Come Poop with Me" to exceptions. Ruslik_Zero 14:30, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

98.154.26.247

Username
98.154.26.247 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
Washroom
Description
Trying to revert apparent vandalism and blanking made by other IP user. Unable to revert and the vandalism remains on the article as of now.
Date and time
00:30, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Fixed the vandalism, but I can't do anything about the filter.—Kww(talk) 00:35, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
I added "shampoo" to exceptions. Ruslik_Zero 10:03, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

67.149.31.144

Username
67.149.31.144 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Pages you were editing (don't wikilink)
Bagdasarian Productions, Nelvana
Description
Removed sections that really don't belong in a Wikipedia article since it adds nothing to the article whatsoever; they even took up much of the articles I edited.
Date and time
23:45, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
If the edit is constructive, simple press 'save' next time. Ruslik_Zero 10:06, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

runs_on_empty

Username
runs_on_empty (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
I Am... Tour
Description
It says I removed content when I did not. I removed bad citations and deleted images. If anything, I added more constructive contentRuns on empty (talk) 23:46, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Date and time
23:46, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
The filter triggered because the overall change in the article's size as a result of your edit was very high and in the negative direction. The filter is unable to distinguish between removing large sections of an article and weeding out a large amount of unnecessary text. The bottom line, then, is that this was not a false positive, as you did remove content - you just put it back in in a way that was considerably shorter. Hersfold (t/a/c) 19:06, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
To clarify further, if you know your edit is constructive, ignore the warnings and hit save. This particular filter will never be terribly accurate, and so it will never prevent you from editing. It's intention is to advise new users that there may be concerns from real editors later if their edit is not constructive. Hersfold (t/a/c) 19:09, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

58.8.10.170

Username
58.8.10.170 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
List of famous people who died in road accidents & Road accident victims & Famous automobile accidents
Description
Fixing redirects. Please see also Wikipedia:Abuse filter/False positives#58.8.12.172 (#2) for which the comment (reply) was "The filter only warns. You can save your edit, if it is constructive." - so now a question: the message says "If this edit is constructive, please click 'Save page' again, and report this error." (my emphasis) - please confirm, am I correct to continue reporting these false positives? Or is it a waste of time for this type of edit? Thanks.
Date and time
15:10, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
I disabled warning. Ruslik_Zero 16:15, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Just to clarify - I wasn't asking you to do that (I don't know enough to suggest if it's a good idea or not), I was only asking if I should continue to report the warning or ignore it. I presume if the warning is disabled, this type of edit will still be tagged for review? Thanks. 58.8.10.170 (talk) 16:28, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
I disabled warning and enabled tagging instead. This particular filter probably should not warn, because it is very difficult to separate bad edits from good ones. Ruslik_Zero 07:38, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Sounds good. Thank you, keep up the good work! 58.8.10.170 (talk) 10:03, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

82.6.108.62

Username
82.6.108.62 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
JAD_(JAva_Decompiler)
Description
Adding just one link to archive.org, was told "It appears you are adding external links to many different Wikipedia pages in rapid succession", which I had not been doing as my user history plainly shows. I run a TOR node but it's middle-man only, not an exit node so should not be relevant. 82.6.108.62 (talk) 20:38, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Date and time
20:38, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Resolved. Prodego talk 21:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

79.101.174.192

Username
79.101.174.192 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
Foreign policy of the Barack Obama administration
Description
added statement with a reference-link 79.101.174.192 (talk) 20:30, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Date and time
20:30, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
I expanded the warning. You may wish to read WP:References. Ruslik_Zero 07:58, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

たろ人

Username
たろ人 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
Leesong Hee-il
Description
Because I mistakenly used the film-stub instead of the film-director-stub filter, the robot has idiotically identified the director as if he were a movie, and put a "tireless sock" jacket on me. Is there any way an admin can remove the tag from the edit history?
Date and time
13:58, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
The only way I know is WP:Oversight. Ruslik_Zero 15:17, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
So what exactly is the point of reporting a false positive if no one can do anything to correct the situation?
My concern isn't just my reputation, but also the article. For a long time, its origin will have that black cloud over it on the very first screenful of history that shows up. たろ人 (talk) 21:03, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
We can delete that one edit, if you agree, たろ人. We need your agreement because you will no longer be attributed for creating the article, although I'll place a null edit in the article history to clarify it. Stifle (talk) 11:55, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
That's fine by me. I didn't bring in any sources that hadn't been used in related articles anyway. Rather tahn creating anything new, I just filled a void that should've already been filled anyway. たろ人 (talk) 22:49, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
I think, it is better to suppress the edit summary and the summary in the log. Ruslik_Zero 12:39, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Whatever you guys think is the most efficient way to remove the black mark from the article history is fine by me. If I have to accept some sort of demerit as a user, I would be OK with that. たろ人 (talk) 21:11, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

98.26.168.111

Username
98.26.168.111 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
Mescalyne
Description
Stub sorting. Somebody added it directly to a stub category instead of using a template. You're not supposed to do this.
Date and time
13:56, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
I added "stub}}" to exceptions. Ruslik_Zero 07:47, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

74.15.55.180

Username
74.15.55.180 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
New York Rangers
Description
This article clearly suffers from recentism. Just the 7 games from the 2009 playoffs take as much as the expensive acquisition section which is 10 years. I was just shortening it because all the details are very unnesessary. But the abuse report says I am blanking! 74.15.55.180 (talk) 13:17, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

The edit was: (cur) (prev) 13:13, 18 June 2009 74.15.55.180 (talk) (71,552 bytes) (→2008–09 season: ridiculous recentism) (undo) (Tag: blanking)

Date and time
13:17, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
No automatic filter can distinguish "bad large deletions" from "good ones". If you think your edit is constructive, press save button. Ruslik_Zero 07:50, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

michaelmanghisi

Username
michaelmanghisi (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
Zolpidem
Description
Search and Replace editing Michaelmanghisi (talk) 02:18, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Date and time
02:18, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
This is not a false positive. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, you will be blocked. Ruslik_Zero 08:00, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

andrewcmurphy

Username
andrewcmurphy (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
Andrew C Murphy
Description
I need to create a page for myself because the link in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oz_Squad , which was not created by me, currently links to a different Andrew Murphy. That's not too much to ask, is it? Andrewcmurphy (talk) 16:07, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Date and time
16:07, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments

Not a false positive; you shouldn't really be creating an article about yourself. See WP:AUTO. Stifle (talk) 11:56, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

62.147.39.186

Username
62.147.39.186 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
What's On TV
Description
I added to a redirect the normal {{R from other capitalisation}} (diff), got an abuse-warning I shouldn't edit redirects. Addition of any of the {{R ...}} tags (or a category) shouldn't trigger an alarm.
Date and time
19:57, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
I added an exception for this type of edits. Ruslik_Zero 07:07, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

71.147.56.247

Username
71.147.56.247 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
Palmer House (University of Chicago)
Description
Switched redirect from the University of Chicago to Broadview Hall.
Date and time
18:15, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
I made some adjustments. Ruslik_Zero 18:33, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

199.125.109.126

Username
199.125.109.126 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
Talk:2009 CONCACAF U-17 Championship squads
Description
Removing old multimove templates.
Date and time
17:09, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
I do not see false positives. All filters worked as intended. Ruslik_Zero 18:25, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

67.100.125.17

Username
67.100.125.17 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
Polycletus (and two other related spellings/names)
Description
I combined two related disambig pages into one by changing Polycletus to be:
#REDIRECT [[Polyclitus]]{{R from alternative name}}
In Special:AbuseFilter/28, the definition of "existing substantial page" needs to be improved to allow overlapping disambig pages to be combined into a single, shared page with redirects for alternate names and spellings. 67.100.125.17 (talk) 09:24, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Date and time
09:24, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
It appears that the filter rule assumes that you should be logged in if you want to edit redirects. Yes, it's only a warning, but it needs to be improved to assume good faith when its clear that we're dealing with redirects and not an "existing substantial page". 67.100.125.17 (talk) 09:38, 16 June 2009 (UTC).
I increased the threshold for this filter to 500 bytes. Ruslik_Zero 13:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

mwandishiman

Username
mwandishiman (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dickfor
Description
I was trying to make edits to an article I wrote, which I think was prematurely/unfairly flagged for neologism. I am unable to make further edits because "An automated filter has identified this edit as potentially unconstructive, and it has been disallowed. If this edit is constructive, please report this error." The edits are on the article's talk page.
Date and time
03:17, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments

Until It Sleeps

Username
Until It Sleeps (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
User talk:169.227.254.128 (twice), User talk:121.212.240.106, and User talk:169.227.254.128
Description
Apparently Filter 58 has been known to block Huggle from warning people..., as evidenced by this
Date and time
00:43, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments

129.94.30.7

Username
129.94.30.7 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
The_Game:_Penetrating_the_Secret_Society_of_Pickup_Artists
Description
Moving the "plot summary is too long relative to the rest of the article" template down to the plot summary section
Date and time
06:40, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
You added "#REDIRECT Target page name", which should not appear in the articles. So the filter worked as intended. Ruslik_Zero 18:56, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

189.27.0.69

Username
189.27.0.69 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
?
Description
I tried to create a new statment in granting to the famous character of the Simpsons, Nelson Muntz. The Nelson's Law is a derivation of the Murphy's Law. Thak you Gilbertow (talk) 02:29, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Date and time
02:29, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
What page was you editing? I can not do anything, if I do not know the page. Ruslik_Zero 18:58, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

58.8.12.172

Username
58.8.12.172 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Pablo the Safety Mexican (don't wikilink)
Wikipedia:Abuse filter/False positives
Description
trying to revert this edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAbuse_filter%2FFalse_positives&diff=296299571&oldid=296272885 - attempts to revert were passed into an endless loop of false positive, CAPTCHA, false positive, CAPTCHA, "Wikimedia Foundation servers" error message, CAPTCHA, false positive, CAPTCHA... and so on, over and over, again and again. Eventually someone else reverted it - but they made a mess of the revert and deleted my previous false positive report (below), so I had to come back again and restore it...
Date and time
14 June 2009
Comments

58.8.12.172

Username
58.8.12.172 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
Dek (news)
Description
revising redirect from #REDIRECT [[News style#Headline (or hed)]] to #REDIRECT [[News style#Subhead (or dek)]]
Date and time
05:15, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
The filter only warns. You can save your edit, if it is constructive. Ruslik_Zero 19:03, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Scarletspeedster7

Hey! this is funny stuff. have a sense of humor about yourself!

Username
Scarletspeedster7 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
Deaths in May 2009
Description
Attempting to report deaths from May 10 2009
Date and time
Scarletspeedster7 (talk) 19:04, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Since you are autoconfirmed now, you, therefore, can edit without interference from the filter 30. Ruslik_Zero 13:07, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Botflyrocks

Username
Botflyrocks (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
Botfly_(band)
Description
Adding information about a band named Botfly
Date and time
02:57, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Please look over WP:COI and WP:N. Your band does not meet our standards for notability and the filter acted appropriately in this case. Wknight94 talk 03:25, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

203.218.193.116

Username
203.218.193.116 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
Radeon R800
Description
Reverting possible vandal: one edit dated June 3, with a load (2,867 bytes) of newly-added information without any source. Saw the abuse filter warning. 203.218.193.116 (talk) 18:58, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Date and time
18:58, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
This filter only warns. If you think your edit is constructive press save. Ruslik_Zero 19:23, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

82.198.235.242

Username

82.198.235.242 (talk) 19:39, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Date and time
19:39, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
What was the reason for this large deletion? Ruslik_Zero 17:56, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

87.194.117.80

Username
87.194.117.80 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
Rope (computer science)
Description
Added a table, got told off for "excessive whitespace". I think it's reasonable to use whitespace within a wikitable, as it's a lot easier to get the markup right if the cells are lined up. 87.194.117.80 (talk) 22:05, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Date
Comments
It is just a warning. Ignore it, if you think you are right. Ruslik_Zero 17:50, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Candid Op

Username
Candid Op (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
User:Legalnotes, powerbrokes
Description
declinging his block
Date and time
19:11, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
This user was blocked indefinitely. Ruslik_Zero 17:47, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

213.152.239.2

Username
213.152.239.2 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
Lünen
Description
Was just adding further clarifaction on the biogass plant including it's potential output and completion date together with a reference for this information 213.152.239.2 (talk) 10:58, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Date and time
10:58, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
I added an exception for "poo power". Ruslik_Zero 12:24, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Lelguea

Username
Lelguea (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
Services_over_the_Messenger
Description
write address from Services over the messenger, not emails.
Date and time
03:57, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
E-mails generally should not be added to articles. If you think you edit is constructive you can press save button. Ruslik_Zero 12:33, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Bizjournals

Username
Bizjournals (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
American_City_Business_Journals
Description
Under the Book of Lists section on the page, I added a new section called "Interactive Book of Lists" which was not mentioned anywhere on the American City Business Journals wiki page. Since this was not previously mentioned, I was contributing this information to further add factual value to wiki readers. Bizjournals (talk) 15:24, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Date and time
15:24, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
This is not really a false positive, as the filter 149 was created to warn editors of a potential conflict of interest. Your username matched the link that you tried to add to the article. If there is no any conflict of interest, press save button. I also advise you to change your username (See WP:CHU). Ruslik_Zero 12:46, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Markhurd

Username
Markhurd (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
Troll (Internet)
Description
Adding a newsgroup reference, which includes a message-id that looks just like an email address and that is the filter that matched. Mark Hurd (talk) 00:43, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Date and time
09:55, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments


63.252.23.200

Username
63.252.23.200 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
Expletives
Description
I was replacing "sh-t" and "fuc-" with the correct words (since the article is about expletives and so-called "bad language"). I felt that censorship here detracted from the article (as it does everywhere else), given that such words are cadent to it. Since this was all I changed, it is reasonable that a swear filter caught me and assumed I was vandalizing the page, but it was a legit edit.
Date and time
15:52, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
If you want to help enforce the policy, you might want to create an account first. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 22:59, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

TimStilson

Username
TimStilson (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
Pioneertown,_California
Description
The coordinates given for Pioneertown, CA actually point to what appears to be a swapmeet in Yucca Valley, CA. I was attempting to update the coordinates to point to Pioneertown (in this case based on the location of the town's label in Google Earth).
Date and time
18:54, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Woops, you matched a pattern of one of our long-term abuse cases. I have tweaked the filter which will prevent you from seeing that again. Apologies. Wknight94 talk 00:56, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

70.29.208.129

Username
70.29.208.129 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
2009_swine_flu_outbreak_in_the_United_States
Description
merging another page into it
Date and time
08:00, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments

The whitespace filter is excessively sensitive. 70.29.208.129 (talk) 08:01, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

AltaV

Username
{{user dark safety|AltaV}} (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
Moustachette
Description
Adding more detailed information about the movie in general and the characters, adding the names of the producers, adding references and external sources
Date and time
05:43, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
The filter is choking on a four-letter word for elimination of waste from the body. New Wikipedia editors often use this word to vandalize Wikipedia. First just call it a "snake so big it ate a whole town of people", and then fill in the rest of the quotation after you have contributed to a dozen other articles. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 23:05, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Jud Newborn

Username
Jud Newborn (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
Hans Scholl - biography
Description
changing incorrect, outdated biographical information and updating it with the newest scholarly research, adding full citations to several scholarly sources.PLEASE NOTE: the citation to Dr. Newborn's article via his webpage is not advertising, but necessary because these findings are contained in an essay written in 2006 but not published yet in a book, magazine or newspaper, and only available as a pdf download via this site. The essay had originally been intended for incorporation into the updated edition as an "afterword" to Newborn's co-authored book of 2006, but could not be included because of the publisher's urgency in keeping to a drastically shortene,d publication schedule (2 and 1/2 months), which had reduced space for the intended Afterword. However, it has been distributed in booklet form since early March 2006 through lectures given nationally and internationally, as well as through attachment postings to scholarly listservs. THe essay in this way has been made widely available to scholars and the public. The reference is necessary to establish the copyright date of Newborn's research and written findings, which provided major breakthroughs in the history of the White Rose, particulary answers to long-sought questions about why the group chose its name (White Rose), and why brother and sister Hans and Sophie Scholl transformed from being avid Nazi Hitler Youth leaders into outraged anti-Nazi resisters. Dr. Newborn--Ph.D. with Distinction, University of Chicago, Founding Historian and Curator of New York's Holocaust Museum, the Museum of Jewish Heritage--is an expert on the White Rose and co-author of a widely known and respected book about the entire White Rose movement, including the role of Hans Scholl within it. The book is cited by many scholars, readers and wiki editors/authors of entries relating to the White Rose. See bio of Jud Newborn on wiki and website for credentials.
Date and time
19:21, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments

These reverts were correct - this editor appears to be the author of the book he is citing and it is therefore WP:OR and he has a WP:COI.

129.237.215.47

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129.237.215.47 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
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Batman
Description
I was editing the page to make it have the new status quo after the major Batman event Battle for the Cowl. The site told me that the edit was "potentially unconstructive, and has been disallowed." Why?
Date and time
21:39, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments
New Wikipedia editors often use a short form of "Richard" to vandalize articles. Some of the filters will assume more good faith once you have created an account and established yourself as a trustworthy editor. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 23:13, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

ASmartiepants

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ASmartiepants (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
Robert Gould Shaw
Description
changing a link that the page had been deleted - the link was Anna Kneeland Haggerty I made it so it wasn't a link anymore because it doesn't lead anywhere
Date and time
23:18, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments
A notorious Wikipedia vandal used to vandalize various pages with a word similar to that woman's surname. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 23:18, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

76.214.147.56

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76.214.147.56 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
List of characters from The Night Angel Trilogy
Description
adding minor characters not on list
Date and time
23:55, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Wikipedia is not censored, but vandals like to exploit this and add slang terms for the anus to articles. To make it clearer to the Wikipedia software that your change is in fact constructive, please consider making an account. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 23:29, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

bestfranchisebooks

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bestfranchisebooks (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
Franchising
Description
I was adding something that was incorrect. The UFOC will state in Section 6 whether or not there are additional fees to be paid for training; and if so, the amount and when due. I outline this in my book in Chapter 3, perhaps I should have referenced it differently? Let me know. Thanks.
Date and time
16:28, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments
When you cite your own book, you have to be very careful that you don't violate the guideline on conflicts of interest. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 23:31, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

cancuen

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Cancuen (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
Santa Catarina La Tinta
Description
Says, too many whitespaces or new lines. I added only a table
Date and time
05:52, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Actually, the problem doesn't appear to be the table itself. According to the diff, there appear to be 4 blank lines preceding the table; 1 is enough. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 07:36, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

207.237.41.202

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207.237.41.202 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalomania
Description
I transferred this section to the delusion of grandeur page.
Date and time
00:40, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments

94.192.118.70

Username
94.192.118.70 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
2009 Formula One Season
Description
Bot reverted to page containing wrong information in Constructors Championship. BMW Sauber, AT&T Williams F1 and Scuderia Toro Rosso were in wrong placeson table and I corrected this
Date and Time
16:22, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments
But almost blanketed the page, so, the filter worked as intended. Ruslik (talk) 09:23, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

False positive for repeating characters

This edit is tagged for repeating characters but the user changed only one character. Possibly triggered by a string of 0's already in the paragraph edited (in the cite web template). SpinningSpark 16:08, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Headbomb

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Headbomb (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Wikipedia:WikiProject Oregon/Maintenance/Article alerts
Description
Blank + db the page (bot created an uneeded page)
Date and time
13:54, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments
I advise you against using 'crap' word, which triggers this filter. Ruslik (talk) 15:08, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Ah. I thought rollbackers were excluded from these triggers. If not, perhaps they should be. Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβς – WP Physics} 01:10, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Having rollback doesn't imply any greater level of clearance; you just have one extra button that makes reverting vandalism easier. Hersfold (t/a/c) 16:46, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

72.244.200.166

Username
72.244.200.166 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Talk:Swindle
Description
It appears that Special:AbuseFilter/33 doesn't like me "removing harmless vandalism from last year (and its autosign from SineBot" (to quote from my edit summary)
Date and time
06:46, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments
It is not a false positive, because the filter worked as intended. If you think that your edit is OK, press save button (no filter can be perfect). Ruslik (talk) 15:13, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
No, it's an abuse filter, and since my changes didn't constitute abuse, it's a false positive. I didn't engage in "Talk page blanking by unregistered user" because I removed autosigned garbage from a minimal talk page; I didn't blank it--I left the wikiproject header in place. So at a minimum the check to see if it was really a case of talk page blanking failed. Want some more ideas? Inspect the edit summary or the old page wikitext and make judgments from that. Or factor in the case that the old page size is small, and/or it contains junk. In short: bend over backwards to Wikipedia:Assume good faith, even for a change made by an editor who isn't logged in. Thanks 72.244.203.231 (talk) 08:11, 26 May 2009 (UTC) (I was 72.244.200.166 before)

63.117.244.94

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63.117.244.94 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing (don't wikilink)
List of 90210 episodes
Description

I had been given a warning that the removal of the category List of animated television series category from the page for the CW drama 90210 would be considered vandalism. Why?--

Date and time
00:17, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments
The reason is that you were, in fact, removing all the categories from the page. Suh actions are frequntly, but not always, vandalsim. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:01, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

WaltCD

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WaltCD (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
[[9]]
Description
Adding the word "he" between "Cabin Boy when" and "hosted the Academy" under the "In Popular Culture" section
Date and time
19:02, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
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Freilach

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Freilach (talk · contribs)
Page you were editing
Klezmer
Description
Editing External links: fixing some, adding mdashes, added 1 link to a NY Klezmer Festival (not in any way associated with it).
Comments
Going to edit more this article as well as corresponding Russian translation.

lexib23

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Lexib23 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
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Carol's Daughter
Description
Editing Lisa Price Biography
Date and time
19:53, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Actually you were rewriting the entire article. Please make smaller careful edits. Wknight94 talk 00:17, 21 May 2009 (UTC)


Geology1001

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Geology1001 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Danielle Ofri
Description
Addressing resume/POV problem as tagged by previous user
Date and time
00:49, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
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User talk

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Tintagel67 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
User_talk:Tintagel67
Description
Why won't you let me add a header to my talk page? Am I doing something wrong?
Date and time
10:41, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments
I don't understand what "position:fixed" means, but aparently this is what triggered the problem. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 11:11, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Knickerbockervillage

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Knickerbockervillage (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Knickerbockervillage
Description
I was trying to add a link to my blog about Knickerbocker Village
Date and time
18:26, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Please read WP:EL and WP:COI. We'd prefer you not add that link. Thank you. Wknight94 talk 00:20, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

10.1.80.73

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10.1.80.73 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
List of Dexter episodes
Description
Giving better episode descriptions
Date and time
22:09, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments
After reviewing the log I think that the filter worked as intended. Ruslik (talk) 12:34, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

LaFolleCycliste

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LaFolleCycliste (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Elizabeth filkin
Description
About to undo my first attempt at subject categorisation
Date and time
10:56, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments
This is just a warning. If you are sure that your is edit correct (in this case it appears such) ignore the warning. Ruslik (talk) 15:08, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Daclyff

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Daclyff (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Dust Devil (Madness song)
Description
Fixing a bloody typo
Date and time
20:05, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Sorry, one of the patented vandal tricks is to make numerous small edits in order to get more privilege. I've gone ahead and fixed your "orginally" typos everywhere I could find. Wknight94 talk 02:51, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Ok, thanks.

Ciutti

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Ciutti (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Orofacial myological disorders
Description
I am the certified orofacial myologist who gave the original information that was inputed incorrectly on this webpage. As the incoming president of the International Association of Orofacial Myology I was asked to fix this webpage by correcting the information and adding a bibliograpy
Date and time
21:41, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments
There are a couple problems here. For one, you almost completely rewrote the article. You might want to try smaller edits as a newer user. Second, there is a problem with the word "sucking" in that article. We may have to tweak the filter slightly for this special case (you are not the first to be warned over "sucking" - a word often used in childish vandalism). Wknight94 talk 00:27, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

79.154.236.26

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79.154.236.26 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Talk:St. Petersburg paradox
Description
I was adding a Python script I made in case anyone was interested, along with a link to the results. The filter complained there was too much whitespace. (Python scripts must have whitespace)
Date and time
20:01, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments

Rajm26

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Rajm26 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Tony Schwartz
Description
Creating Disambiguation page. Looks like I should have renamed the page vs copy and paste?
Date and time
16:02, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments
  • If you want to move an article, you should use the move button (see WP:MOVE for details). Copy and paste moves shouldn't be used because it doesn't duplicate the existing page history. ~~ [ジャム][t - c] 16:50, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Dabomb87

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Dabomb87 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Backstreet Boys
Description
I was fixing dashes and unlinked one country, which triggered the abuse filter message.
Date and time
02:58, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments
  • Seemed to be a valid edit to me. Can't quite work out from the given regexs and the diff quite how you triggered this filter, but I wouldn't worry too much - it is only set to warn so you should have been able to continue regardless. ~~ [ジャム][t - c] 06:04, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
    The offending text is ''==7th Studio Album'' (2009–present)==", which is interpreted as the announcement of a hypothetical album by the filter. Ruslik (talk) 09:50, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Da Killa Wabbit

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Da Killa Wabbit (talk · contribs) (filter log)
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Barakc_Obama
Description
Barakc Obama
Date and time
I was attempting to add what I felt was a plausible spelling error to redirect to the current US President, after mis-typing the name myself. The page then came up with a error about something to do with an auto-filter, any information that could be given on my talk page would be appreciated.
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MicheleHaro

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MicheleHaro (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
MicheleHaro
Description
Unknown - previous description not relevant to messages given in filter log ~~ [ジャム][t - c] 06:09, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Date and time
15:27, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
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Aardwulf2010

Username
Aardwulf2010 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Chuck de Caro
Description
Trying to save a major edit to correct damage by hackers. Added new content and additional links to old material. Save page took me to the Abuse Filter page.
Date and time
22:34, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Looks more like you were trying to replace the entire article - removing all maintenance tags and categories and inserting external links instead. As a new user, you would be better off editing more slowly and carefully. Wknight94 talk 01:00, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

hellonerd345

Resolved
Username
hellonerd345 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
tim the idiot
Description
there is nothing wrong with making a bad article on my classmate.
Date and time
22:09, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments
The account is blocked indefinitely. Ruslik (talk) 09:57, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Rakrupski

Username
Rakrupski (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Zeller's congruence
Description
Adding assembly language source example
Date and time
18:06, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments
The filter worked as intended. In my opinion, it is not a good idea to add the program code to this article, as Wikipedia is not a user manual, after all. Ruslik (talk) 18:55, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Thekings8907

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Thekings8907 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Milton, WV
Description
Updating the Article
Date and Time
3:35 AM, 11 May 2009 (EST)
Comments
Just trying to update our town's article. It seems I don't have the hang of this editing thing. I think it kind of screwed the page up. Sorry! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thekings8907 (talkcontribs)
Somehow your edit removed links all over the page including the categories and interwikis. How did all of those ]'s and ['s? Wknight94 talk 01:06, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

jpsgill

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jpsgill (talk · contribs) (filter log)
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mullanpur
Description
I was Correcting the wrong information put forth by some people who entered the wrong information such as eliminated the information about two cities. Someone changed the information that is not correct and is politically motivated
Date and time
15:33, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments

173.51.115.6

Username
173.51.115.6 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Black raspberry
Description
I was removing </references/>, as it is not needed on disambiguation pages, and my action was a part of this page's cleanup.
Date and time
04:29, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments
  • This seems like a valid trigger of the filter, but obviously for the wrong reasons (you were cleaning up vandalism to the page). Best way to avoid this filter would be to register for a user account. ~~ [ジャム][t - c] 06:14, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

WOCCU

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WOCCU (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
my talk
Description
I was posting the copied text as instructed that was automatically generated so that administrators could review the block placed on my account. Here is the instruction: Blocked editor: Please paste the contents of the block infobox (screenshot) below to help administrators locate your block in the logs. Administrators should not unblock without attempting to discuss with the blocking administrator (see the blocking policy).
Date and time
21:26, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
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Aliza250

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Aliza250 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
E-mail address
Description
I added an email address @example.com to this page and got a spam-protection warning. Any spammer whose robots feed them addresses @example.com deserves what they get.
Date and time
03:37, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments

209.6.223.221

Username
209.6.223.221 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Jarndyce and Jarndyce
Description
removing empty ref section (contents were linkspam)
Date and time
01:19, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Your edit wasn't rejected, it was merely flagged for review by other editors. Since I'm not knowledgeable in this area, I'll leave it for someone else to review. ~~ [ジャム][t - c] 08:09, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Actually, it appears that the relevant entry in the abuser log is this, where the user actually did get a warning. This matches filter 79. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:34, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Sinhat

Username
Sinhat (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Bhima_(moth)
Description
Replacing erroneous reference to category:Pandavas
Date and time
13:03, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments
You are only experiencing this because you are a new editor, and we often see removal of all categories by new editors. Once your account is autoconfirmed, you shouldn't experience this again. ~~ [ジャム][t - c] 08:15, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Letdorf

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Letdorf (talk · contribs) (filter log)
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Sinclair Research
Description
added a Template:cite newsgroup citation to article, the USENET news message ID was erroneously interpreted as an e-mail address.
Date and time
14:39, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments

Hatoulah

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Hatoulah (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Fuck You Heroes
Description
Performing a merge in accordance with the guidelines here Wikipedia:Merging_and_moving_pages#How_to_merge_pages, I had copied and pasted the text to here Glen_E._Friedman#Fuck_You_Heroes and was deleting it from the source page as per instructions
Date and time
14:37, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments
I have now done your attempted edit based on the abuse filter log. I think there is usually not much we can do to prevent similar issues in the future. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 07:57, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Actually, it seems like a possible cause is the fact that you did a malformed redirect. Please see here. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 07:59, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

72.244.200.224

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72.244.200.224 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Mother's Day
Description
As noted in the edit summary, I moved text to Mother's Day (North America)
Date and time
1824, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Comments

Eric Ward

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DrGruene (talk · contribs) ([10])
Page you were editing
Eric Ward
Description
Updating correct information
Date and time
12:49, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
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Masterchef604

Username
Masterchef604 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
UserPage:Masterchef604/Questionable Sauce
Description
Saving a future article about a local band as a user page to save/track/preview changes. The band is a shock rock band, and song titles probably tripped the filter
Date and time
17:25, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments


77.183.126.62

Username
77.183.126.62 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Chromosome 6 (novel)
Description
Can't revert addition of bogus content copied from I am legend
Date and time
16:25, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments


Fredvs79

Username
Fredvs79 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
anal bleaching
Description
Adding info
Date and time
10:59, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments

I'm not sure what set off the filter, I was just adding stuff. I think one of the links I inserted had the word "assh*le" in it.

No, it was the "poopreport" web site. And that's hardly a reliable source so I'm inclined to say this was a good stop. Wknight94 talk 11:40, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Aetheling

Username (Peewee Herman)
Aetheling (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Lebesgue monotone convergence theorem
Description
I was trying to create this redirect, but I was falsely accused of trying to create a very short page.
Date and time
01:13, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments

Your redirect was malformed. Needs to be "#REDIRECT [[...", you left off the "#". [11] Dragons flight (talk) 01:24, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

My apologies! —Aetheling (talk) 01:28, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

paulbrock

Username
paulbrock (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Roy Keane
Description
undoing some old vandalism required re-adding a quote, which true to Keane's style had a fair amount of expletives; flagged when I was editing without logging in, passed when logged in. No surprise really, not sure how this sort of edit can be treated differently to coarse vandalism.Also included external link to a news site as a ref
Date and time
21:55, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments

Strange. Maybe I'm doing this wrong but I don't see any filters triggered for Roy Keane. Wknight94 talk 11:51, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

AfterFX

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AfterFX (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Kingsclere
Description
I removed a large amount of unencyclopedic content from the Kingsclere page. The edits were needed as the page was in incredibly poor condition, and much of the content was unsuitable for Wikipedia. For proof, please look at the diff links on the page's history.
Date and time
21:14, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments

Apparently I tripped Filter 30, "large deletion from article by new editors". It hasn't prevented me from making the edits, but I have been "warned" according to the abuse filter log ([12]). What exactly does this mean? Thank you in advance to anyone who answers. --AfterFX (talk) 01:44, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Large deletions are usually acts of vandalism (more than 95% of the time). By having a warning we find that >50% of the childish vandals will abandon the edit, which leaves less to cleanup for the rest of us. If your edit was well-intentioned, just ignore the warning. Incidentally, filters targeting childish vandalism are automatically turned off for editors once they have a certain degree of experience, so if you keep editing you are unlikely to see this issue in the future. Dragons flight (talk) 01:54, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
I see. Thank you for your help! --AfterFX (talk) 02:42, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

bythelake

Username
bythelake (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
[[13]]
Description
Editing: Copy/paste in the correct information
Date and time
22:32, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Filter working properly, please see our conflict of interest guideline. Nakon 22:55, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

deisenbe

Username
deisenbe (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Comte de Lautréamont (section)
Description
adding reference to a published encyclopedia article on him
Date and time
12:01, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments

Your URL includes your username. You are clearly a reputable published author but, unfortunately, you will have to expect pushback when adding references to your own publications on your own web site. We cannot programmatically distinguish between that and some teenage garage band spamming their "wicked cool" myspace page. Wknight94 talk 12:15, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Canaccord

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Canaccord (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Canaccord Capital
Description
writing information about the company and linking to another write-up that someone else did about another branch of the firm, Canaccord Adams. Is this possibly being flagged beacuse of user name? Thanks
Date and time
19:23, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Filter working properly, please see our conflict of interest guideline. Nakon 22:59, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

mrcolj

Username
mrcolj (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Endowment_(Latter_Day_Saints)
Description
Trying to clean up the redundancy of "the penalty section was removed in 1990." As you'd guess, this article is controversial, written by Mormons and people who hate Mormons and few else. So the latter party always sneaks in many references to the assertion that previous to 1990 the ceremony had a hand signal in it that apparently derived from the equivalent of "cross my heart and hope to die, stick a needle in my eye." There's no image where I'm trying to delete.
Date and time
15:06, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments

This is filter 131 and may be the same problem Kww reported immediately below--BirgitteSB 17:36, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Kww

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Kww (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Temple garment
Description
Attempted to remove an external link. For some reason, it tripped the filter guarding against image removal. Log entry is "13:58, 23 April 2009: Kww (talk
Date and time
contribs) triggered filter 131, performing the action "edit" on Temple garment. Actions taken: Warn; Filter description: Removal of controversial images (details) (examine)"
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Alexandru.rosu

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Alexandru.rosu (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Blazing Angels 2: Secret Missions of WWII
Description
Wanted to add a list of planes present in the game, very much like that from Secret Weapons Over Normandy, but got an excessive ammounts of whitespace error
Date and time
10:11, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments


'Roobie Breastnut is the founder of Party Porn music for B films and erotica films such as "The Gun," which the film made it to the 2003 Montreal Film Festival in Canada. From there, Roobie Breastnut's music has been reoccurring in Jim Wynorski's erotica films such as "The Lust Connection," "The Witches Of Breastwick," and most recently, "Cleavagefield," playing on HBO. Ironically enough, over twenty years prior from producing music for Jim Wynorski's films, Roobie had played a prostitute main extra in a film directed by Jim himself called, "Big Bad Mama Part 2." However during those twenty years, Roobie is well known in the Burlesque industry for re jumping the vaudeville craft. Building drivable props like "The Pooper Scooter" a drivable toilet. And a "Boob Mobile" driven at the old Exotic World out in Helendale. Roobie Breastnut is also a certified clown, trained by a master boss clown. And has streamed the first 60 minute movie ever to be played on ifilm.com'Italic text'

Patrick Giraudi

I was just writing a truthful article about Roobie Breastnut.

I am tired

serene_skies

Username
serene_skies (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
UCF_Victim_Services (ctrl-click)">UCF_Victim_Services (ctrl-click)">UCF_Victim_Services (ctrl-click)">UCF_Victim_Services (ctrl-click)">''UCF Victim Services''
Description
I am not done creating the page, so I do have "white spaces" in some places-but only necessary to separate between sections/PS How do u title a page from your own user name?
Date and time
01:50, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments
[[ serene_skies ]]

I do not know

Username
I do not know (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
[[ Jane Eyre ]]
Description
A quote on the page misspelled "vampire." In the novel it is spelled "Vampyre" and for continuity it needs to be changed.
Date and time
10:19, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments


Unknown

Page you were editing;Ok lol i am sorry xx

Gail Riplinger
Description
I was removing false and misleading information from the Gail Riplinger post.I also added new information regarding her newest work.
Date and time
4/13/2009 1030PM

Wcp07

Username
Wcp07 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Heights of United States Presidents and presidential candidates
Description
I was moving the reference for WH Taft's height from his listed height to his name to make it consistent with how the other presidents' heights have been referenced. The abuse filter prevented me from doing this
Date and time
02:18, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Filter 58 was broken just now; try again and you should be able to make the edit. Hersfold (t/a/c) 02:19, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

JJL

Username
JJL (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Waterloo Central Railway
Description
Adding the Redirect !vote that now appears there.
Date and time
02:14, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments

Enigmaman

Username
Enigmaman (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
User_talk:Ohnoitsjamie
Description
I was linking to a user's contributions and asking for help with a situation
Date and time
02:10, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments

65.60.213.203

Username
65.60.213.203 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Phil Cuzzi
Description
I was attempting to add a reference to the sentence "In the regular season, he was home plate umpire for the second home game at the New Yankee Stadium, a 6-5 Yankees victory ending in a controversial at bat for Mark DeRosa including two contested calls by Cuzzi." The reference is a link to the article at "http://cleveland.indians.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090417&content_id=4310718&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=cle".
Date and time
02:09, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments

I got the erroneous error message when I attempted to add just the tag {{subst:standard}} to transclude a standard template and start a new template navbox. -Stevertigo 21:34, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

William R. Buckley

William R. Buckley

Username
William R. Buckley (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
My user page
Description
Adding detail
Date and time
02:10, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments


Gargomon251

Username
Gargomon251 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Mixed Messages (video game)
Description
The game is based on Eat Poop You Cat, which it would not allow me to edit.
Date and time
19:35, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments
The logs do not show that you've tripped any abuse filters while logged in; what exactly was the message you received? Hersfold (t/a/c) 20:12, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

80.98.255.228

Username
80.98.255.228 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Knight Online
Description
I have removed a section which lists monsters and their drops, which I think is irrelevant detail for those not playing the game. Also I have removed a section on private servers, which are illegal according to Knight Online's terms of service, and a section which seems to be a review of the game and therefore doesn't belong here.
Date and time
12:01, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments


71.126.97.124

Username
71.126.97.124 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Samurai
Description
Putting in more information on the Kamakura Bakfu
Date and time
20:09, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments


Metajam

Username
Metajam (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
[[ User_talk:203.116.30.239 ]]
Description
Adding a "please don't vandalize" message referrring to recent edit of Overseas Family School
Date and time
03:04, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments

Breck

Username
Breck (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Uwe Boll
Description
Was trying to revert the page to something meaningful. Currently it redirects to Belial.
Date and time
00:46, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments

UCVcreate

Username
UCVcreate (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
ElliePooPaper
Description
I was trying to create a page for the Exotic Paper Company, also known as Ellie Poo Paper just because I think they are an interesting company. They make paper out of the least likely things, like banana peel and as the name suggests, elephant dung!
Date and time
23:05, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments

Not giving out my IP address to public

Username
68.39.4.43 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
the Country Gentlemen
Description
I was deleting information that wasn't supposed to be in there and you keep denying my edits. I have sources and legal documents showing that certain information does not belong, and I want Randy Waller information taken off the page when it has no relevance to The country gentlemen and he is using this site to promote himself
Date and time
19:14, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments
  • This is not a false positve. Whatever else you think of the guy, describing his actions as "douchebaggery", etc. is not appropriate for an encyclopedia. It may also help to explain your concerns at Talk:The Country Gentlemen. Dragons flight (talk) 19:32, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Prompted by this report and amused by the thought that "Not giving out my IP address to public" thought he could hide his IP address, I did some clean up on the article, based on a bluegrass museum source. I know this comment is only peripherally related to the purpose of this page, but I had to comment anyway. :-) 72.244.207.146 (talk) 22:09, 14 April 2009 (UTC).
  • For future reference, when you are not logged in, every edit you make is logged in the page history under your IP address. If you're concerned about people seeing your IP address, you should create an account. It took all of five seconds to find your IP address and fix the links above, which we need to help investigate your report. Hersfold (t/a/c) 22:15, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Valerian456

Username
Valerian456 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Talk:Cattle
Description
I was reverting vandalism made by an anon editor.
Date and time
18:21, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Looking into this. Hersfold (t/a/c) 22:20, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Someone's signature is formatted so that it sets off this filter. When you tried to replace the content of the page, it included that signature and assumed you were vandalising the page. Sorry about that, I've removed it from the filter for the time being. Hersfold (t/a/c) 22:26, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

68.167.252.230

Username
68.167.252.230 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Boston Red Sox Hall of Fame
Description
replace <references/> placeholder with {{unreferenced}}.
Date and time
04:28, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments
In the spirit of strict scrutiny, consider having Filter 79 detect the case like mine, where there is a <references/> without any <ref></ref>. 68.167.252.230 (talk) 04:39, 14 April 2009 (UTC).
I would argue that this is not a false positive, since you did in fact remove the reference templates/tags; while I understand you were being constructive, in removing the {{reflist}} template (etc.), you've made it a little more difficult to tell when references do get added if someone forgets to put it back in. Hersfold (t/a/c) 22:35, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Wilko5092

Username
Wilko5092 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Euan Caborn
Description
Writing the article about myself
Date and time
11:09, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments
This was not a false positive; the filter correctly triggered, because you added an image gallery without changing any of the default values. In any event, we strongly discourage autobiographies for a long list of reasons, most notably that you have a clear conflict of interest when editing about yourself. Hersfold (t/a/c) 22:37, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

DetroitRebirth

Username
DetroitRebirth (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
The Detroit Project
Description
I edited the entire page in Microsoft Word and then pasted the new stuff into the page (in the process, overwritting all of the old information). This was caught by the Abuse Filter as a large deletion, but in fact I provided a net increase in information and also made the information more up-to-date/less biased
Date and time
17:16, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Try changing only one section in each edit. This way, editors can more easily track your changes with the "diff" tool in each article's edit history page. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 15:59, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Your username

Username
MatherManicalman (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Static Shock Mutated Monsters
Description
This is a cartoon series.
Date and time
13:58, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments


Anonymous

Username
Anonymous (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Kalri village
Description
Remove someone's resume from [14] and [15]. This edit preventor software is pretty idiotic IMHO. Not exactly the best thing for attracting contributions.
Date and time
09:05, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments
  • Can't find anything for that username, but if you mean you weren't logged in, then it sounds like you triggered the filter for removing a lot of content. Stifle (talk) 13:11, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Incognito1980

Username
Incognito1980 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Abul Manzoor
Description
Iwas trying to move redirect the page
Date and time
08:51, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments

--Incognito1980 08:51, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Trevor37 (talk) 22:00, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Username
Trevor37
Page you were editing
Cinnamon budgerigar mutation
Description
I use a template to set up the basic page structure of a series of similar pages, so there is just a single line containing the substr:template command when the page is created
Date and time
22:00, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments

72.244.207.160

Username
72.244.207.160 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Scotch whisky
Description
Multiple changes, here's my edit summary: "add infobox, move list of types up, favor SWA over secondary sites in some places, annotate and clean up several existing refs, use columns, mark some unref'ed statements, copy-edit." Don't know which of my changes triggered 135, so it might be hard to diagnose.
Date and time
09:39, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments
I disabled the filter for having too many false positives. —Wknight94 (talk) 13:38, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

RamseyPalace

Username
RamseyPalace (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
What page you were editing/moving - sandbox
Description
What you were doing - I wrote -Ramsey is a town with 125 independent shops and a lovely work ethic
Date and time
08:40, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments

smwark

Username
smwark (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Added an "About Us" page
Description
Added writen material that is 'About Us"
Date and time
18:35, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and thus is not a place to promote a music festival. Strictly a false positive but the edit was unconstructive anyway.MER-C 01:16, 10 April 2009 (UTC)


Farahato

Username
Farahato (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Northern_High_School_(North_Carolina)
Description
I edited a spell check of demographics and placed a space between bandroom to be band room
Date and time
10:43, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments


PurpleRain666

Username
PurpleRain666 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Amorphis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amorphis#cite_ref-RD_0-2
Description
Tried editing "The Karelian Isthmus and Tales from the Thousand Lakes" section along with adding a legitimate reference. Most of my entry turned into italiacs and my reference along with two others (which were not in original section) are now displayed below this section instead of at the bottom.
Date and time
15:56, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments
This was mostly appropriate. What happened is that you added a spot to list references (with a <references/> tag) even though there was already such a spot further down the page (a {{Reflist}} tag). When you tried to remove the duplicate, the abuse filter got confused. Perhaps a new rule is needed to prevent the duplication in the first place. —Wknight94 (talk) 20:06, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

ApparenzA

Username
ApparenzA (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
ApparenzA/Sandbox
Description
Trying to post a draft to a user sandbox
Date and time
13:14, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments
I changed filter 135 to only look at the article namespace. A few other tweaks will be coming soon as well. Sorry about that. —Wknight94 (talk) 13:54, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Ravidevulapalli

Username
Ravidevulapalli (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
N/A
Description
See here, the user couldn't create that account because of filter 102, and I can't find out why not. --Conti| 13:00, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Date and time
13:00, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments
The name has "evula" in it - the username of a commonly-attacked administrator. —Wknight94 (talk) 20:17, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Mistake in page Vishal Krishna

sucharithan
Sucharithan (talk · contribs) (filter log)
vishal krishna
Vishal_krishna
Description
Shreya Reddy dies in thimiru (TAMIL) due to unexpected electric shock.
Date and time
19:33, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Shreya Reddy dies due to electric shock in the film thimiru [TAMIL]. But, i don't know about telugu.The mistake is found in CAREER column

Upstater9

Username
Upstater9 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
[[16]]
Description
Update publication credits and insert blurbs for new book
Date and time
12:14, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Comments

margaritametzger

Username
margaritametzger
Page you were editing/moving
Logicomix
What you were doing
I deleted a <ref> but was replacing it with another <ref>, replacing the same one and adding another one. Because I deleted the one, I was not allowed to edit the page.
  • Your edits moved the references that were in the article to a position below the <references/> tag. That tag automatically collects all references that are mentioned in the article so far. By moving them to the other location you caused the tag to no longer recognize them. So the filter was right in warning you, though perhaps it should make it clearer the edit was wrong for a different reason. - Mgm|(talk) 17:48, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

204.52.215.135

Username
204.52.215.135
Page you were editing
Kinship
Description
I would like to report a false negative AND a false positive. I think filter 32 ought to have triggered on my first edit, thus disallowing the edit and saving me some embarrassment. In addition, when I deleted the nonsense edit, I triggered a filter for the removal of the bad edits! ... w00t for filter 30, I guess.
Date and time
20:44, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Comments
The addition wasn't large enough to trip filter 32, the threshold for the filter could probably be turned down safely, but still not to that level. The edit only added ~14,000 bytes to the article, which isn't an entirely unreasonable size change, as it only increased the article size by about 50%. On a larger article, that would barely be a blip. Mr.Z-man 13:23, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
  • I've got an idea of a filter that would trip in these circumstance and still leave reasonable edits alone. It's just the question whether the regex flavor we're using allows it. I'll try to build the filter shortly and report back. - Mgm|(talk) 17:44, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
  • I've designed filter 125 to try to avoid such edits in the future. It is now in testing. - Mgm|(talk) 08:43, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

32.178.157.35

Username
32.178.157.35 (talk · contribs)
Page you were editing
Brian Kelly (historian)
Description
32.178.157.35 was flagged by Filter 29 for removing a deletion tag but it was the closing admin Fritzpoll while the IP added a cat. Both actions were cosidered as one edit and attributed to the IP.[17].--Tikiwont (talk) 12:48, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
I've now also dropped a note to Werdna.--Tikiwont (talk) 20:00, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
Date and time
12:45, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Comments

64.229.58.223

Jack & Jill
Tried to improve he article but it was flagged as vandalism
Date and Time March 29 2009
Comments

Neither your IP address nor the article title appear in the filter log. Were you logged on under another name? Did you mean to point to the disambiguation page or a specific article listed there? =- Mgm|(talk) 09:17, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

AUG

Username
AUG (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Big dumb idiot
Description
This isn't really a true false positive but it would be better if, in this case, an attempted save after recent delete triggers MediaWiki:Deletedwhileediting instead of the abuse filter. I was adding a db-vand (the page was still there when I was in the editing screen) but the page was already deleted after I tried to save. I know this probably isn't that big of a deal but it would be better if Deletedwhileediting is shown rather than a possible abuse message in such a situation.
Date and time
19:11, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Comments

192.12.88.7

Username
192.12.88.7 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Talk:Faggots
Description
Responding to a discussion with "Huh? I don't understand what's stupid about using "Faggots" as a redirect to "Faggot", and I don't understand this "no other meaning" stuff. Wouldn't the lack of any other meaning be a reason for the page to be a redirect to begin with? 192.12.88.7 (talk) 02:34, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Date and time
02:34, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Comments
The filter was triggered by the word "Foggots", which in some context may be a personal attack. If you think the edit is constructive, press 'save' button. Ruslik_Zero 14:02, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

67.100.125.197

Username
67.100.125.197 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Pages you were editing
Supreme Court of the United States , Fairfax Stone
Description
Fixing problems with use of refbegin/refend/reflist
Date and time
22:36, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Comments

Source: replacing duplicate/similar references with a link to a named ref, it <ref>Blah blah</ref><ref name=foo/>. Filter needs to be modified to account for this. In the meantime, keep up the good work! Happymelon 23:30, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

I and Dragons flight have tweaked the filter that you were tripping, so it should not trigger on the action you were performing (legitimately replacing a duplicate ref with a named ref). Let us know if you still have problems. Happymelon 23:57, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Actually in the logs he tripped both 61 and 79. I believe I've now also patched the other one. Our apologies. Dragons flight (talk) 00:10, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
  • The code itself was fine, but it didn't consider the posibility that the article could contain duplicates to begin with. Removing duplicates is now excluded as a filter trigger. - Mgm|(talk) 09:16, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Tungsten

Username
Tungsten (talk · contribs) (Tungsten filter log)
Page you were editing
Cock-a-leekie
Description
Trying to write Cock-a-leekie, which was filtered as "unconstructive".
Date and time
20:26, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Looks like you weren't logged in, so I can't find out which filter you hit. So I can't fix anything :(. Prodego talk 23:53, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Looks like filters 9 and 97. [18] The actual article is Cock-a-leekie soup. Powers T 13:04, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Zborov

Username
Zborov (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Criticisms of the BBC
Description
The previous reporting of the legal case about the Balen report was much out of date and needed substantial replacement. Also there was repetition concerning "the independent panel's report". The separate section headed the Balen report became superfluous and was deleted by way of clean up. I have now deleted less duplicate material and left the page therefore in need of clean up but have avoided the filter and effected my edit.
Date and time
18:06, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Comments
You triggered filter 18 (test type edits) because you added [http://www.example.com link title] to the article. In this case you should have replaced 'link title' with the real title of the link. Ruslik_Zero 14:10, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

71.41.210.146

Username
71.41.210.146 (talk · contribs) (71.41.210.146 filter log)
Page you were editing
DCF77
Description
Trying to clarify the explanation of the DCF77 phase shift keying, I replaced "A 0 chip causes a +13° phase advance, while a 1 ship causes a −13° phase lag." with "During 0 chips the carrier phase is advanced +13° phase, while during 1 chips it is retarded −13°." I suspect the word "retarded" triggered the vandalism filter, but this is the technically correct usage, from which the insult is derived. In any case, I want to emphasize that repeated 0 bits do not cause repeated phase advances, but rather the phase is held at +13° as long as the 0 bits last, then changed −26° to −13° when the next 1 bit comes along.
Date and time
04:40, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Comments
71.41.210.146 (talk) 04:40, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
The filter triggered because you used 'is retarded'. Obviously you used it correctly. I am not sure what to do about it, the easiest thing would be for you to go here and fill out the form. :). Any suggestions? Prodego talk 18:56, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Username
192.75.48.150 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Heyting algebra
Description
Date and time
18:44, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Comments

OhioRuthie

Username
OhioRuthie (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Family Court With Judge Penny
Description
Trying to remove a article for specific reasons..I've been trying to contact those in charge who are helping the offender but so far they haven't contacted me. Proofreader 77 I think that's his name and EdBever. Ruthie818@neo.rr.com please contact me.
Date and time
21:41, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Reviewer's comments
Involved in edit warring and blocked. Leave as an administrative matter. Dragons flight (talk) 01:23, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Alarics

  • Alarics
User:Alarics
Page you were editing
Sekolah Sri Garden
Description
Removed a vast amount of POV junk. It looked as if it had all just been pasted in from the school's advertising brochure. There was also a great deal of duplication.
Date and time

21:43, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

There really isn't a lot we can do to address this. A new editor deletes a lot of text... most of the time that is bad and the warning is deserved. The good news is that the filter in question will turn off once your account is a few days older and you are no longer "new". Dragons flight (talk) 22:02, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
So, do I take it that you are accepting my edit and you agree it was a false positive? Alarics (talk) 22:25, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
I accept that the article was not written the way it should have been and your truncation was well intended. I haven't tried to study your changes in detail to know whether I'd agree with all of them. Dragons flight (talk) 22:47, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

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