User talk:Yaksar/Archive 1

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Re:Hey

I would like very much to discuss the issue at hand with you, and resolve the issue without hostilities. Unfortunately, you keep removing the paragraph in question without even attempting to justify the deletion. Unless you can provide some kind of policy-based rationale for your edits, I will continue to consider them vandalism. Thank you, DLand ^TALK 02:15, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Where is your reasoning? Is it the comment from the IP that claimed that BuddyTV is a "fansite"? If so, then that is patently false - the article that is used as a reference is written by Jon Lachonis, who is a senior writer on a paid salary for the website. Incidentally, BuddyTV has explicit policies that distinguish spoiler from speculation, if that's what you're worried about.--DLand ^TALK 04:57, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Please make your argument for deleting the paragraph. I can't find where you "already posted it" on the talk page.--DLand ^TALK 00:26, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Kitten

Hi Yaksar - My fault - I inadvertantly rolled back an article which had already been reverted (thus reverting to the vandalism!) ... Please remove the notice from my talk page. Best regards, MackSalmon 20:02, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

User:222.152.194.25

What you can do is continue to warn the user on the talk page (as you have already done) every time he/she vandalizes a page. Once the warnings reach the 4th level ("final warning") and the vandalism continues, you can report the user to administrator intervention against vandalism with a brief explanation of his/her actions. Eventually an administrator will happen by and hopefully block the offender. ... discospinster _talk 23:33, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Horror Icons

Template:Horror Icons has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Enter Movie 02:52, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2007/Vote/Newyorkbrad

Good evening. I have indented your vote on Newyorkbrad's voting page in the Arbitration Committee Election. In order to vote, editors must have 150 mainspace edits as of 1 November 2007. Per your User Contributions, you had fewer than that number. Accordingly, your vote is removed from the count - though, I note that it remains on record as a statement of your position. Please feel free to post any questions you may have at my talk page, or at the talk page for the election. Thank you for your interest in participating in this year's election. Best, ZZ ^Claims~ Evidence 03:54, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

You do have 155 - as of now. According to Milestone, your 150th mainspace edit was on 25 November 2007. To participate in the election, you had to have 150 mainspace edits by November 1st. As you say, the editcount is good - but it just missed the deadline. Sorry for the confusion. For what it's worth, you're good to go for future elections. You can also leave your vote in place, if you like, as a show of support for the candidate - though it'll be indented, it still says that you offered your support. That's no problem at all, several voters did the same thing. Again, sorry for the confusion. Best, ZZ ^Claims~ Evidence 04:25, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Motto of the day

Hello, I notice you're using one of the {{motd}} templates, run by Wikipedia:Motto of the day. You may have noticed that some of the mottos recently have been followed by a date from 2006, or on occasion simply "Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia". The reason for this is that Motto of the day is in some very serious need of help. Participation in the project, which has never been especially high, has dropped considerably over this past summer, to the point we have had several days where no motto was scheduled to appear at all. Over the past several weeks, I've been the only editor scheduling mottos at all, but there aren't enough comments on some of these mottos to justify their use. If we do not get some help - and soon - your daily mottos will stop. In order for us to continue updating these templates for you, we need your help.

When you get a chance between your normal editing, could you stop by our nominations page and leave a few comments on some of the mottos there, especially those that do not have any comments yet? This works very simply; you read a motto, decide whether or not you like it, and post your opinion just below the motto. That's it - no experience required, just an idea of what you personally like and what you feel reflects Wikipedia and its community. If you do have past experience with the project, then please close some of the older nominations once they've got a decent consensus going. There are directions on the nominations page on how to do this.

If you have any questions, please let me know, or post on the project's talk page. I'm looking forward to reading your comments on the suggested mottos, and any additional suggestions you'd like to make. Until then, happy editing! Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 01:56, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Next (restaurant)

A tag has been placed on Next (restaurant) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for organizations and companies. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Codf1977 (talk) 12:08, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

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Your Userpage

What would you like? You could give me Ideas, or I could just do it, Or make it look like mine. Whatever suits you . Thomas888b (talk) 18:49, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

What do you think of this colour scheme? Thomas888b (talk) 18:04, 20 January 2011 (UTC)._{Updated at 18:23, 20 January 2011 (UTC)}

yes, that will come. What sort of colour scheme would you like? also, I will do your page with the collapse boxes, your current page is temporary, and will be changed. Would you like this userbox on your page?
Page By This userpage was created by Thomas888b

Thanks, Thomas888b (talk) 18:55, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Have fun!

Have fun with List of people who have accepted Golden Raspberry Awards, I will no longer be contributing in the future to this page you have driven me away from with your continued disruption and refusal to wait and patiently seek out discussion on the talk page while refraining from engaging in your pattern of reverting and edit-warring. I will no longer be contributing to that page, or to the page Golden Raspberry Award. Your strategy of reverting and reverting again, has worked in your attempts to WP:OWN those two pages, so congratulations with that!!! ;) -- Cirt (talk) 02:30, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Hmmm.--Yaksar (let's chat) 02:40, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

I agree with your previous edit

As you saw another editor apparently asked for more clarification on the astroturf statement. I am happy to leave it out but would like to see more discussion in the talk page rather than an edit war. WikiManOne (talk) 06:53, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Userpage Design Done

I have finished your userpage. If you would like me to do anything else, all you have to do is ask. Sorry for the delay. Feel free to edit the text on the page.

Thanks,

Thomas888b (talk) 14:28, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for giving me credit on your page :-) Thomas888b (talk) 12:04, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

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BLUE Adventure Lifestyle magazine/Amy Schrier

HI Yaksar,

1) I am interested in updating the BLUE magazine information. Currently, when wikipedia visitors search for BLUE magazine they get a gay mens magazine from Australia. But, published concurrently was a different BLUE magazine, an adventure travel magazine, that was also known as BLUE magazine.

First, I need to figure out how to change this confusion. There is a listing for BLUE, the Adventure Lifestyle magazine but it is under BLUE (tourism) magazine and no one would search this title.

It is significant in many ways. It won the award for best magazine covers of the past 10 years, among many other awards, it had notable contributers and staff.

It is notable now, because the archive will launch this month and many people will search Wikipedia for this magazine.

I would like to replace the BLUE (tourism) magazine with BLUE the Adventure Lifestyle Magazine which more accurately reflects its title.

If you could help edit any bias in the text it would be much appreciated.

2) An entry for Amy Schrier who was the founder of BLUE magazine and also previously mentioned in other Wikipedia listings, is launching a new media venture MISSION, a website and magazine about global travel and humanitarian issues, this is also significant and she should be listed, for such accomplishments as founding BLUE magazine and now founding MISSION. Again, if you could help me edit would be much appreciated.

What are your thoughts?

Sincerely,

Sandy Barnes — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sandybarnes (talk • contribs) 06:14, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi, what you're asking about is a redirect, explained here. I went ahead and did that for you, so the page you created should now send you to the magazine's page. Looking at it, however, I would suggest citing some more sources in order to make clear the notability of the subject. I'm happy to answer any more questions, so if you need help feel free to ask. Thanks!--Yaksar (let's chat) 06:21, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Rift Success, LLC

Hi Yaksar, I'm new here as a poster, and notice that you are a veteran. I've uploaded an article about this company and thought that here would be a good resource for people looking for work and for ex incarcerated people as well. If I have done something wrong with regards to the article, perhaps I may be so bold as to ask for your assistance please? From what I notice on your profile, you have a lot of expertise here and I would love it if you please help me. Thank you in advance. Tryandbeme (talk) 06:45, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I'm happy to help. The main issue with your article is that, while well written, it does not establish the notability of the subject. I'd suggest reading up on the requirements for establishing notability of a company on this page. If this is your own business, or one that you are inextricably linked to, I'd recommend adding it to an appropriate category at Wikipedia:Requested articles in order to avoid a conflict of interest. If you'd like, I can create a subpage for you to work on the article, where you can fix and improve it until it can be added to the encyclopedia without risk of being removed. If you've got any more questions feel free to ask.--Yaksar (let's chat) 06:47, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you so much. If you could create that page for me that would be phenomenal thank you and thank you for the compliment. I don't work for the company nor am I affiliated with them, but know many people who have boasted about them so I thought I would inform folks looking for them here. As for notability, do you have any suggestions? I linked and footnoted as many of their links as I could find and even included an article that a business magazine in the UK wrote about them and their owner. Thanks in advance for the help again. :) Tryandbeme (talk) 06:55, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

No problem, I'm always happy to help out a new user. I've crated a draft page for you at User:Tryandbeme/draft1. Unfortunately, I'm not able to look up any links right now, but if you're having trouble I'd recommend looking through Wikipedia:Reliable sources for good examples of sources. And please, don't get too discouraged if your original article gets deleted; it happens to all of us, and an enthusiastic editor like yourself can still be incredibly helpful for the encyclopedia. Once again, if you have any more questions just ask away and I'll try to answer as soon as I can.--Yaksar (let's chat) 07:05, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

You are fantastic! Thank you again for your help. If there is anything you can think of that will help the article I would appreciate it. Tryandbeme (talk) 07:12, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Re: Worst films

I don't mind doing it myself, but I am at work until at least 6 PM EST today. I can do it after that, or if you want to do it sooner, feel free. — Hun ter Ka hn 19:28, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: H.K.Nanjundaswamy

Hello Yaksar, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of H.K.Nanjundaswamy, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Article makes a number of indications of significance, including being a professor and winning awards. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. -- Lear's Fool 06:22, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Ok thanks, I'm somewhat new to this. Would there be a better category to nominate it under, though? The page makes no mention of the actual awards, and being a visiting professor is hardly a qualification for notability. I also, based on the user's userpage, feared that this was an autobiography or potential conflict of interest. Thanks for your help.--Yaksar (let's chat) 06:30, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

No problem, A7 is a bit tricky, and everyone makes mistakes while they're learning it. Feel free to let me know if you have any questions about deletion in the future. In this case, the article doesn't really meet any of the criteria for speedy deletion, so if you feel it should be deleted, you should nominate it for deletion through one of the other processes, Proposed Deletion (PROD) for uncontroversial cases, or Articles for Deletion (AfD) for the other cases. In my opinion, this article is a decent candidate for PROD, since the subject is obviously not notable. However, there are some editors who have a slightly lower threshold than I, and would object to the deletion of an article about a professor without discussion, so I have nominated it at AfD. Regarding your conflict of interest concerns, this is quite common with articles like this, but I find it best to simply treat the article as though it wasn't an autobiography. A conflict of interest isn't grounds for deletion alone: if the subject isn't notable, the article will be deleted anyway. Anyway, I hope that all makes sense. Please feel free to ping me on my talkpage if you have any more questions. -- Lear's Fool 06:55, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Makes sense to me, thanks so much for clearing this all up.--Yaksar (let's chat) 07:06, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Hello. You have a new message at Lear's Fool's talk page. -- Lear's Fool 04:25, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Howling Bells song pages

Hi. I'm a new poster, this is the first talk I have done so I don't really know what I am doing. I think that my articles are appropriate and deserving of a place on Wikipedia, because all the bands pages that I research on the site are structured in the same manner. I am just trying to create a band page that I think is more navigable and accessible than how it is structured in it's present format. mattchewbaca 08:08, 5 February 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattchewbaca (talk • contribs)

Hey, first of all let me say I'm happy you've chosen to contribute to Wikipedia, you seem like a very able editor. I have to admit, I did feel terrible tagging the song articles for deletion. However, they simply did not meet the criteria for notability as outlined in Wikipedia:MUSIC. I'd suggest reading up on that, and then potentially adding any info you feel should stay into the appropriate pages. I could also copy those song pages into a subspace of your userpage in case you wanted to work on drafts. Please don't take any of this personally, I'm really impressed with your work and hope you'll continue to improve the encyclopedia.--Yaksar (let's chat) 14:26, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Firstly, thank you for the compliments, I feel that I put a lot of positive effort into it and contributed to a better documentation of the band, so your observation of that is appreciated. I did take the time to read up on Wikipedia:MUSIC, and from that I learned that indeed the band do meet the notability standards in at least seven of the twelve requirements as written under the heading, Criteria for musicians and ensembles. I took note of what numbers they are and added them on the articles' talk pages. I still intend on contributing further info to the articles and hope that others will likewise do the same so as to make them better for the community. mattchewbaca 19:10, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

I actually had nothing to do with any possible challenges to the band's notability, just the songs. The band may very well meet the criteria needed, but I'd make sure to check out this specific section on songs to make sure that the individual songs deserve their own page. This is an issue unrelated to whether or not the band is notable; it is a separate analysis of the songs. If you've got any other questions I'm happy to try to help out.--Yaksar (let's chat) 19:15, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Re

Works for me; thanks. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 19:39, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

talk:spark, rfc, move discussion etc

Your voluminous and enthusiastic contributions to Talk:Spark (fire) 76 and counting are giving the impression of badgering. When comment is requested (and typically these last for 30 days) it is best to wait until a discussion develops. There's not that much of a rush, and you don't have to attempt to agree with, or refute, every single post. The discussion itself is become somewhat of a bugger's muddle; partly due to your over-participation. pablo 19:46, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Alright, sorry. I've just been a bit eager to understand the rationale behind some of the more confusing arguments.--Yaksar (let's chat) 19:50, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Seek to enhance, not delete

Yaksar, it seems to me you have decided to enter a lot of deletion nominations. This seems to not be the best course of action in many of these cases. It would probably be better to look into the articles more and seeing if you can not find more sources before just reccomending deletion. This is especially true because it is a general rule of thumb that most tenured professors at universities are notable, however many articles on them may not actually document why they are notable accurately. I would agree that the Henry Torrey article was weak, and the Hafen article has probaby been inproved by needing to respond to a call for deletion, but especially in the case of LeRoy Hafen he is no where near being anything but notable. One issue with Hafen is you brought up the fact that there was only one item in te sources list, however you ignored the four items in the external links list. In this case some of those maybe should be under sources since they do constitute major sources for the article, but ignoring them out of hand because they are not under the heading "sources" does not seem to be a very good approach. One hard part about finding more sources to list for Hafen is that there are just so many listings of his 35+ books, and a large number of other sources that are places referencing one or more of his 35+ books, that it is hard to get to other information on him. I will try a search or two that I have not done yet, but his Handcarts to Zion is so heavily quoted in Mormon sources that turning to some of these to glean pertinent personal information is not as helpful for him as it is for many other Mormons.John Pack Lambert (talk) 06:22, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

In regards to Hafen, I did look through all of the links on the page. However, they all seemed to either be written by Hafen himself or simply a page showing his book in a catalog or library. While these are certainly fine to have in the article, they don't help give any evidence of notability. In regards to the other nominations, I only created an AfD if they didn't meet the criteria outlined at Wikipedia:Notability_(academics).--Yaksar (let's chat) 06:52, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

The DU Pedia article that was in the external links is neither created by Hafen nor just notice of the existence of works by him. The link to the Hafen Photography collection includes in it a biography of Hafen, which was why it was included. The biography was not written by Hafen. In fact as far as I can tell none of the links actually go to things written by Hafen, with the exception of the material based on his foreward to the 1981 edition of Broken Hand: The biography of Thomas Fitzpatrick. There are references to the "About the author" section in the 2004 Edition of The Overland Mail, but this was written 19 years after Hafen's death.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:32, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

While I do have other criticisms about those links, they take a backseat to the main issue in that I'm struggling to see where he meets the criteria outlined in Wikipedia:Notability_(academics).--Yaksar (let's chat) 16:50, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Hafen passes the first possible condition for academic notability. "The person's research has made significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources." Hafen's large body of published work is the basis from which all later study of the western fur trade is done. People will write "Hafen missed a lot of sources of independent Deleware involvement in the trade" at times, but by doing so they recognize Hafen's work as the standard from which later historians must build. He probably also passes the widely influencial outside of academia standard, with the number of citations to his work on the majority of sites that mention the Santa Fe trade, many geneological research sites for his books on Colorado history, and lots of citations to his book on the Handcart companies. I have incorporated some of the more prominent references to Hafen in the article. I have not even yet done a search for just LeRoy Hafen on google. It may turn up more material.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:18, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Marking as Patrolled

Hi, It seems that you have been spending some time patrolling the New Page section. I and the other members of WP:RCP really appreciate your efforts, but as you review articles, make sure you are marking them as patrolled. If you need info on how to do this, leave me a note on my talk page. Thanks! Bped1985 (talk) 06:47, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Um, regarding your last question, I'm not exactly sure I understand it... Are you asking about marking pages as patrolled? If so, don't worry too much about it. It's a very menial thing, all it does is take the yellow highlight off the page in the New Pages list. Is that what you are referring to? Bped1985 (talk) 07:29, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Ah, I understand now. What you want to do is totally up to you. Patrolling pages to made sure they meet CSD is a great place to start, and is probably the easiest section or Recent Change Patrol. Speaking of which, have you joined recent change patrol? We're always looking for help! Bped1985 (talk) 07:36, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Nope, thats it! If you need help with anything -even the "dumb questions" :) just leave me a note on my Talk page and I will do my best to answer it. Welcome aboard and happy patrolling! Bped1985 (talk) 08:00, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Why balls bounce?

Hi Yaksar!

I declined the speedy deletion of Why balls bounce?. Not nonsense - there is meaningful content. Regards, decltype (talk) 11:24, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, well regardless the page seems to have been rightly removed and redirected.--Yaksar (let's chat) 13:33, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

AN/I

A well-known, instantly-identifiable troll. Don't feed it. we have enough going on there. Acroterion _(talk) 04:33, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Alrighty, I assumed it was something like that. But why was is oversighted? That's the only reason why it seemed like something to bring up. --Yaksar (let's chat) 04:34, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Jarlaxl is almost always oversighted, as his intentions (and comments) are purely disruptive and defamatory. Satndard operating procedure in this case, unfortunately, but easier to deal with than some of his disruption in years (literally) gone by. A lot of anti-vandal measures and policies have evolved as a result of his harassment.Acroterion _(talk) 04:38, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Haha ok. I'm sure you understand my initial concern. I started laughing at what seemed to be someone ranting about a supposed conspiracy, and then suddenly he was oversighted too. Almost like something out of a movie. :)--Yaksar (let's chat) 04:41, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Look at the edit history of that page, WP:AN, and his other target this evening, Irgun, which was his set-up for the accusation. Lots of revdels, all basically attacks on NawlinWiki. Acroterion _(talk) 04:43, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry, I don't doubt that the administrators were in the right. Thanks for clearing it all up.--Yaksar (let's chat) 04:44, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

No problem; the mystery is why he even bothers anymore. Acroterion _(talk) 04:46, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Crocker Highlands Elementary School merge

I've never really partaken in a merge, despite years of editing. Per the AfD comments and the merge notice, the merge target is not the list of Oakland elementary schools but the school district page for Oakland, CA. I see no good reason for those "list of schools" links from that page; one good paragraph should do it in each case. The lists themselves can go to AfD.

Organizational issues: Maybe a "Noted schools" section should be opened up? Sure, it looks weird to have one school singled out on that page. But "weird" is just another way to say WP:IMPERFECT. I don't doubt that other schools in Oakland have gotten some local press, though perhaps not nearly as much.

As for what to do with the Crocker Highlands text: see how much of it is redundant, or going into detail about tangential matters? Boldly condense or eliminate this stuff. For example, this:

Chelda Ruff a former vice principal and math administrator from Woodland Joint Unified School District near Sacramento, was the principal during the 2006-2007 school year. She had been a math and technology teacher in the Travis Unified School District in Fairfield, California, where she developed an algebra curriculum for students in all grades. As a result of the program, in which students received tutoring before and after school, about 90 percent of the 100 students who participated each year passed California math standard exams. She has master's degrees in math education from San Francisco State; in curriculum and instruction from Chapman University, and in educational leadership from the University of California at Berkeley.[7]

That might be appropriate detail if this were a BLP of Ms. Ruff (and for all we know, she's independently notable, or will become so soon, so it might make sense to WP:PRESERVE the paragraph above on the school district talk page.) But it's altogether too much about her, and about a school she used to work for, in an article that's really about the school she worked for in the 2006-7 school year. I feel something like the following would be giving her due credit.

In 2006-7, Chelda Ruff, a former math and technology teacher who'd been noted for developing a successful algebra curriculum elsewhere, was principal.[7]

And I'm going to make that change. For now, the part I've cut is on the Crocker Highlands Talk page. It shouldn't be moved anywhere without noting the copy.

This discussion of trimming should move to the Oakland school district Talk page eventually, but a little local whittling on the article itself is probably OK for now, prior to merging.

It's a sizeable article, and I must admit, a pretty good one. Maybe if enough of it is appropriately WP:PRESERVEd, much of it could come back to life if WP:SCHOOL guidelines change enough to justify independent existence. I could support a WP:SCHOOL guideline that says it's basically WP:ORG for primary and middle schools, but with the usual WP:ORG requirement of more-than-local news coverage relaxed. Let me know if you'd like to support such a change -- we can userfy some version of this article as an example for that discussion, to suggest how that change might make Wikipedia better. Just bear in mind I could be swayed away from it. Yakushima (talk) 05:43, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Wow, thanks for your thoughts. These seem like great points, but unfortunately I'm far too brain dead at this point to try to fully comprehend it. After I get some sleep I'll see what I can do, although you're certainly welcome to do what you can :). Thanks!--Yaksar (let's chat) 05:46, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Another reason to not merge this article into the list of elementary schools in Oakland: there are also private elementary schools in Oakland, and that list shouldn't be linked from the school district page. Yakushima (talk) 05:55, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

sophistication

Oh, man. I want to scream "sophisticate this!" at CW. But if I go into the sophistication AfD so soon after "winning" on Crocker Highland and extravagance, he will have a wikistalking case against me (as he accused in the extravagance AfD discussion, getting my motivations wrong as usual.) The last thing I need right now, given my combative style in AfD, is a WP:BATTLEGROUND charge with some evidence to back it up. Would CW go there? Of course he would. That's the kind of oblivious hypocrite he is.

I must admit, on the basis of a desperately brief look at the sources listed, CW might have more of a case for notability than I had with my baby tryphé, carved out of extravagance by C-section on its brain-dead mother. I would really need to absorb something of the claimed sources on sophistication and think a while. In the meantime, consider sophistication (literary theory) as a dilution strategy.

I devoutly wish that Wikipedia had a WP:DEATHROW policy that addressed this practice of squatting articles and defending them in AfD on the grounds that they theoretically could be improved, but without ever actually improving them. The admin who closed extravagance with "Delete" might agree. It's said that there are no emergencies on Wikipedia, but I think the reason I'm attracted to AfD is precisely because it has something like deadlines. I can help kill! I can help rescue! But -- tick-tock-tick-tock -- time's quickly running out! Maybe this idea should be extended further, with overall benefits to Wikipedia. Like, if something doesn't get acceptably wikified within two months of being listed for wikification, it's automatically PRODded? I'm sure you can think of others. Yakushima (talk) 06:26, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Finnish

I've added a warning in Finnish. If the editor recreates again, let me know. --Kudpung (talk) 23:38, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marie-Laure Sauty de Chalon

Thank you for your comments. Bearian (talk) 23:27, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sophistication

I'm sorry I had to punch this "keep" but like I said in my closing statement I completely agree with you. This article right now is a dicdef. However, if I were to have deleted this I'd be defending my "supervote" at DRV and there were too many comments for a relist. If you want to renominate this in a month or so I wouldn't mind.

Also, I didn't see snotty wong's late delete !vote until after I closed it. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:54, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

It's all good, I know y'all have to strive to be unbiased. Question though: if in a month or so it's nothing but a DICDEF still, and the exact same defense is used, will the arguments still be given the same weight as before? Also, I'd have to call this the worst case of "rescuing" I've seen so far. Almost nothing was added to the article, and certainly nothing that brought it away from a DICDEF. The rescue tag just seemed to serve as a canvassing tool for keep votes in this case.--Yaksar (let's chat) 03:06, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I just noticed Snottwong's comment about the rescue tag too. I think this may be something worth taking to DRV, actually.--Yaksar (let's chat) 03:25, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

You certainly may do so if you wish. The close will likely be endorsed or at the most "relist". As far as SW's note about the rescue tag, I think he does that for all AFDs bought to their attention. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 03:36, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Eh, I'm not patient enough, I'll just relist it in a month once if no one's added to it.--Yaksar (let's chat) 03:50, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Ron didn't notice my delete vote because he closed the AfD a full 9 minutes early... (kidding)

I agree with Ron that the result would probably be upheld at DRV just by the headcount alone. It's unfortunate that the AfD didn't get attention from a very diverse group though. Almost all of the keep votes were from ARS members, except Epeefleeche (whose vote was a WP:PERNOM, and he often tags things for rescue even though he isn't "officially" a member) and Guoguo12. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing, but most of us know that Colonel Warden and Dream Focus vote Keep about 99.9% of the time. Bearian is usually more reasonable. Anyway, I think you're on the right track, Yaksar. Wait a month and renominate if the article hasn't been significantly expanded, and if the AfD gets more diverse attention but still closes as Keep, then you'll have to accept that your opinion doesn't match up with consensus and move on. SnottyWong ^communicate 14:39, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The WikiProject Film Award
		I, Hunter Kahn, hereby award Yaksar the WikiProject Film Award for his/her valued contributions to WikiProject Film. for your efforts at List of films considered the worst, which was becoming far too objective and, in my opinion, completely lacked credibility until you came along and got the wheels in motion to improve things. The list is much better now, and I'm confident it will continue to improve. I encourage you to keep that page in your watchlist and stay vigilant in making sure it doesn't go back to the way it was. Well done! Awarded 16:48, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of proposed deletion of The Krazy Gang

Thank you for telling me of the proposed deletion of The Krazy Gang. I would like to know why this has been nominated as a speedy deletion - cannot be an ordinary deletion nomination, which would result in a discussion? ACEOREVIVED (talk) 00:21, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Hussa

Hi! I think that page was originally supposed to be a redirect to Fussa, Tokyo, but some dudes must have created a hoax.

I'll just make it a disambig between Hussa Ahmad Al-Sudayri and Fussa, Tokyo

WhisperToMe (talk) 21:19, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Sounds good to me.--Yaksar (let's chat) 21:38, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Have a cookie, Type Team member!

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Flag of the Second American Revolution

Yaksar:

Up front I must say I am the creator of the Flag of the Second American Revolution, which has been acknowledged by the Boston Globe as a rising symbol of the Tea Party movement in America and by Pulitzer Prizer winning writer, Kate Zernike of the New York Times in her new book: "Boiling Mad." Kate dedicated the back cover of the book to my story, and references my flag at several other events. Our flag has appeared on the front page of the Wall Street Journal (January 19, 2010), Boston Globe (twice: January 19, 2010 and April 15, 2010), The Washington Post (August 29, 2010) and in TIME magazine's special edition "The Year in Review," which is on newsstands now across the U.S.A. (page 19. Our flag has appeared on FOXNews almost daily over the last 24 months. Our flag now flies in all 5o states. You can see photos and videos of our flag on www.USRevolution2.ning.com or if you get Showtime on your cable TV, our flag was also clearly displayed in episode 7 of this season's "WEEDS." Adele Wilson the show's Set Designer specifically ordered the flag for the show, which had a Tea Part booth in a state fairground scene.

Best Regards,

Jeff McQueen President and Founder www.USRevolution2.com

P.S. I started the flag because every successful political movement always had a new symbol. The Gadsden "Don't Tread On Me" flags were neither new or made in the U.S.A. (which also bothered me). How can you protest for your American rights with a Chinese-made flag?

75.144.65.133 (talk) 01:25, 22 February 2011 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.144.65.133 (talk) 01:24, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Hey there. First off, for simple conflict of interest reasons, I'd advise against creating pages for your own companies; it can make it look like there is a bias in the article or that it is simply an advertisement. Also, remember that your intentions in making the flag, no matter how right or noble, has nothing to do with the notability of the flag itself. And just because something may not be notable enough for it's own article does not mean it does not deserve mention in another. Maybe [[Betsy Ross Flag], Tea Party movement, Scott Brown, or something like Flags used by the Tea Party Movement would be great places to have a section on this topic.

On a total side note, I encourage you to create an account and contribute to Wikipedia, especially in areas you may not be so tied up in. Any constructive edits are certainly appreciated.--Yaksar (let's chat) 03:18, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

IR

Thanks. The | never seems to work. Simply south...... 18:15, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

No problem, happy to help out where I can.--Yaksar (let's chat) 18:17, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks much! :D — Hun ter Ka hn 18:26, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Ruby-gate

You recently participated in a straw poll regarding the above article. New options have been crafted at Talk:Ruby-gate#New options, and your input is welcome. -Rrius (talk) 21:25, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Hutu list

I thought I was being calm and civil. You don't think so?Anythingyouwant (talk) 18:34, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm not pointing fingers at anyone in particular, don't worry. It's just the tone of the AfD has become (as is the case with basically all of them) somewhat hostile. But don't take this as an attack on anyone specific, I'm sure that if you're trying to stay civil you're probably doing a good job.--Yaksar (let's chat) 18:36, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Okay, thanks.Anythingyouwant (talk) 18:39, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Blow (song)

Reason has been given, please show good faith and revert your edit. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 21:29, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Responded on talk page.--Yaksar (let's chat) 05:57, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

WP:FILM February 2011 Newsletter

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SPA

hi plz explain to me what "editors are certainly SPAs' means? as u wrote on the ola-abaza discussion.Also, Why do you agree that it is not notable despite clear involvement on several significant sources like live TV during a major event when they could have got any one but got him as the authority to give opinion..--kellyrussell34 (talk) 03:57, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Worst movies ever

Can you help us with this The Scarlet Letter??--Kekkomereq4 (talk) 07:03, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Hello

Hi, I'm Mountain Girl 77. You might recognize my name from the Eagle County Charter Academy discussion. I am just wondering if you might know why ECCA has been merged with Wolcott. Is there some outcome of the discussion that I am not aware of? If so, just answer me back on my talk page. Oh, and here's a cookie for the misunderstanding between us about the article.

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Thank you

Thanks, Yaksar. I guess I'm just a little confused about the whole article deal. I'd love your help in finding good articles to edit though!Mountain Girl 77 (talk) 02:19, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Deletion Nomination

Yaksar, what is the deal man? Why do you have a problem with my articles? mattchewbaca (talk) 02:31, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

I've got no problem with your articles, I just suggest you should read this User_talk:Yaksar#Howling_Bells_song_pages.--Yaksar (let's chat) 02:34, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Collapse

It was the perfectly correct thing to do.--Epeefleche (talk) 17:56, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for that. I really wasn't sure how it would come off but I thought it was right to do. I hope neither of you took it as an attack on yourselves or your abilities as editors.--Yaksar (let's chat) 21:44, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Speaking only for myself, certainly not. There are times that IMHO a collapse is not appropriate. Usually, when one can divine how the effect that it will have is to hide pertinent information. Here, as I saw it, an irrelevant and false blue herring personal attack was launched. It merited a response for the (ever-growing) record. But had it not been made (the effect of a collapse), it would not have required any treatment at all. My only thought is that it may -- if it increases the ability of other editors to find it in a later search by other editors who encounter similar problems-- be worth uncollapsing it in the final archived version. But that's not crucial--a judgment call.--Epeefleche (talk) 02:27, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Wikihounding - Wiki-hounding is the singling out of one or more editors, and joining discussions on multiple pages or topics they may edit or multiple debates where they contribute, in order to repeatedly confront or inhibit their work. This is with an apparent aim of creating irritation, annoyance or distress to the other editor. Wikihounding usually involves following the target from place to place on Wikipedia.. Yaksar, please look at just a few (of many) examples I collected: Recently here (The first time Epeefleche has ever edited this page according to Page Statistics), here (first time he's ever edited this page according to Page Statistics), here (Epeefleche has never taken an interest in the Infobox Image discussion until I created an RfC for it, which he immediately opposed and spent most of this rationale commenting on me with phrases like "[Bulldog] is being obsessive in his attacking what he views as obsessive" and "Nom could perhaps consider being a contributor to the project by adding pictures he believes appropriate to such montages.") Help me understand how this is not wikihounding by it's very definition? Bulldog123 15:19, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

I don't know if it is or isn't, it's really none of my business. I'm not saying you're necessarily right or wrong, I just don't want to get tied up in it all. If you have a case to make, take it to ANI or wherever. Thanks.--Yaksar (let's chat) 22:54, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm only making sure you get to see both sides here. Bulldog123 04:11, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Haha it's alright, I have a clear enough view of it all. But thanks.--Yaksar (let's chat) 04:13, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Knife collecting

Thanks, most of my pics are just single knife pics or groups of several; so thanks for that one, it definitely is a step in the right direction.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 23:00, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bullying in academia

I responded to your comment. The text in bullying in academia has now been improved and refocused anyway.--Penbat (talk) 19:37, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Good work!

The offer does indeed still stand. :)

		The Typo Team Medal
		For you efforts in keeping Wikipedia free of typos, I hereby award you this Typo Team Medal! Sophus Bie ^(talk) 03:06, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome! Sophus Bie ^(talk) 03:16, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

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Battle of Kandahar (2001)

Thanks for the help and for expanding upon the article! --Sharkface^T/_C 06:44, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

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		For your service in helping to improve Battle of Kandahar (2001), I, Sharkface^T/_C hereby award you this barnstar.

It's quite alright. Best of luck with your other endeavors! -Sharkface^T/_C 07:32, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Pierre Chambrin

On 7 March 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Pierre Chambrin, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Alice Waters lobbied the Clinton administration to replace White House Executive Chef Pierre Chambrin with an American chef? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 10:02, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Thank you!--Yaksar (let's chat) 04:28, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Aja Beech

I am busy doing class and importance ratings for Pennsylvania articles, and have found Aja Beech in the course of that work. I would say that this person is not notable, but I have never done a AfD nomination. Would you be willing to take a look and perhaps do an AfD on this article? --DThomsen8 (talk) 14:15, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

It certainly does look like you have a case on this one. Is the issue just that you're unsure of the proper way to start an AfD?--Yaksar (let's chat) 04:25, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

I am willing to learn how to do an AfD, but not on this article, too close to home. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:39, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Hmm. What I would be willing to do for you is set up the AfD, and just say I'm nominating it for you and give your deletion rationale. Would that be suitable?--Yaksar (let's chat) 06:53, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

I am going to leave this situation alone. Too close to home. --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:28, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Cleanup on my user page

Thank you. We should probably also revise Hungary to say it's a country located on Neptune, or wherever our correspondent thinks it's located. Perhaps he'll tell us when he next beams down. Obscure 19th century eastern European contributors to electrotechnology inspire the strangest edits... --Wtshymanski (talk) 21:49, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

I can comfortably say I have no idea what you're talking about :)--Yaksar (let's chat) 06:35, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Oh. The individual in question left a rather passionate, if incoherent, edit comment saying that Hungary isn't "on" Europe. --Wtshymanski (talk) 14:44, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Haha oh yes, I saw, it just seemed a bit too confusing for me to want to get too involved.--Yaksar (let's chat) 17:37, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

inre Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Agnes Milowka

Your comment got me thinking... and though it's only a beginning (and we'll need to use webcite.org to save them as permalinks)... on the Agnes Milowka website I found links to PDFs of the various media where her work was covered, and of the articles she authored. So she did receive coverage of her work prior to her death, and beyond the obituaries.

Sad that it took her death for someone to write an article, but as she has set unique diving records and has had coverage, I believe we're looking at a decent presumprion of notability. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 03:31, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Award

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		I am pleased to award you this barnstar for your kind help with my review of the James R. Whelan article proposed for the DYK section and your diplomatic and excellent help improving the hook for my article on Joseph Lennox Pawan. John Hill (talk) 02:54, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Reefer Madness

So I was going see if there's enough to add Reefer Madness to the page until I released that I would be required to create a section for the 1930s if there was enough after a concensus was reached. How would I do that? IamTorgo (talk) 23:32, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

It's just a level 2 header, so you make two equals signs, then the header, and then two more like this

==Heading==

As for the specific movie, just use 3 equals signs on each side instead of 2.

===Subheading===

As for actually adding it, however, I would certainly prefer more discussion and consensus on the talk page before you put it in. As of now, it's good sourcing is tenuous at best.

Hope that answers everything for ya!--Yaksar (let's chat) 23:44, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. IamTorgo (talk) 15:47, 26 March 2011 (UTC)